Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Dear Sobhana ji, I have high regard for your knowledge and understanding. But some remarks I observed in your mails prompts me to make a request to you (as a moderator). //> Internet Astrlogers community in India, perticularly the Englishwalas,> whether Professional or Hobbists all over India are but a few and you> can count them on fingers. It is a small community and calls for healthy> respect and interactions with each other.> > I have observed with dismay that instead of commradaire, they indulge in> petty issues and fight badly. The healthy aspects of the discussion and> progress of an idea gets stalled or sidelined.> > I do not have much of interaction with Goel Ji of Delhi though I have> full respect for his astrological talent.> > I know Vijay Goel i of Jaipur for whom I have equal regards.////This astro community is a very very small world and most of themembers of this community are sread allover the groups.Vijay Goela ji is very respected member but for his deep rooted andvery individualistic business interests with some of the groupsincluding offshhots of SJC and and some other connected people.Vijay Ji forgets about his satrk negative role he played indestruction of of a well established group od astrology. I was just astandby observant. These tricks do not work in a close knit and tightcommunity where are but a few to count upon.However, I again say he is a good astrologer, Inintailly a verysincere soul but spoilled now by money.I stil wish him the very best. I wish I am anot blaming him orputting allegations. I know him for last four yaers and can provewhat ever changes I saw in his astrological life.But Vijay Ji you will alwyas reamin a respected man so far I amoncerned. The backgrounfd role you played will never, howvwer, fadeaway. You know what is being talked about.// What you have mentioned all may or may not be correct; but may be we should avoid such personal remarks in a group (where the mail goes to more then 2500 members) . I have full regard for you knowledge but may be we should be more deplomatic in a community. Of course we can express such sincere personal ideas and opinions during personal meetings, but essentially it is wrong to express them in groups (since individuals -whether it be Geol ji, Vijay ji or Bhaskar ji or anyone else - might feel insulted). But I don't have any such objection when you express your sincere and beautiful views (like the following) about SJC or BVB and the like.//> My Only request is that we all know This Charakaraka replacement theory> is Brain Wave of Shree Sanjay Rath follwed up by some Visti Lasrsen. It> is a fine idea and can be experimented upon. I welcome it.> > My contention is only that one need not Justify it quoting Parasara.> Parashara interpreation can not be stretched to justify that idea.> > As an idea, it is welcome, experiment with it and justify. Do nort use> it as commercial tool and as a means of spreading the Empire. Use SJC> forums for that purpose.> > My another and associated request is that, multiple forums of SJC be> used for that purpose and this concept should not be made a bone of> contention in other communities. That leads to ganging up by interested> elements rather than a free intellectual discussion.> > The idea is being spread as a cult rather than an innovative find.> Coupled with that, many professional have jumped into the band wagon due> to their prefessional self interests rather than due to acedemics.> > Hope I have humbly and unoffendingly put across my views.// Hope you will take this mail in positive spirit. This is my humble request to you â€" to avoid personal remarks that some one may hold objectionable; remarks that some one might consider as insults; please avoid them.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Shobhana" <shobhana_ms wrote:>> > Dear Vijay Ji,> > With all respect and due apologies.> > Internet Astrlogers community in India, perticularly the Englishwalas,> whether Professional or Hobbists all over India are but a few and you> can count them on fingers. It is a small community and calls for healthy> respect and interactions with each other.> > I have observed with dismay that instead of commradaire, they indulge in> petty issues and fight badly. The healthy aspects of the discussion and> progress of an idea gets stalled or sidelined.> > I do not have much of interaction with Goel Ji of Delhi though I have> full respect for his astrological talent.> > I know Vijay Goel i of Jaipur for whom I have equal regards.> > My Only request is that we all know This Charakaraka replacement theory> is Brain Wave of Shree Sanjay Rath follwed up by some Visti Lasrsen. It> is a fine idea and can be experimented upon. I welcome it.> > My contention is only that one need not Justify it quoting Parasara.> Parashara interpreation can not be stretched to justify that idea.> > As an idea, it is welcome, experiment with it and justify. Do nort use> it as commercial tool and as a means of spreading the Empire. Use SJC> forums for that purpose.> > My another and associated request is that, multiple forums of SJC be> used for that purpose and this concept should not be made a bone of> contention in other communities. That leads to ganging up by interested> elements rather than a free intellectual discussion.> > The idea is being spread as a cult rather than an innovative find.> Coupled with that, many professional have jumped into the band wagon due> to their prefessional self interests rather than due to acedemics.> > Hope I have humbly and unoffendingly put across my views.> > Thanking you.> > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > < , Vijay Goel> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sobhanaji,> >> > Thanks for the compliment. > > My father says 'i am spoilt from the first day of birth and still> don't> > listen to him'.> >> > But i wonder, ever i have interacted with you.> >> > Thanks and regards ,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> > , Vijay Goel> goyalvj@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sobhanaji,> >> > Thanks for the compliment. > > My father says 'i am spoilt from the first day of birth and still> don't> > listen to him'.> >> > But i wonder, ever i have interacted with you.> >> > Thanks and regards ,> > Vijay Goel> > Jaipur.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 24, 2008 Report Share Posted September 24, 2008 Dear Sreenaadh Ji, The massahge and the spirit is appreciated understood and shall be complied with, Thanks and regards. , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Sobhana ji, > I have high regard for your knowledge and understanding. But some > remarks I observed in your mails prompts me to make a request to you (as > a moderator). > > //> Internet Astrlogers community in India, perticularly the > Englishwalas, > > whether Professional or Hobbists all over India are but a few and you > > can count them on fingers. It is a small community and calls for > healthy > > respect and interactions with each other. > > > > I have observed with dismay that instead of commradaire, they indulge > in > > petty issues and fight badly. The healthy aspects of the discussion > and > > progress of an idea gets stalled or sidelined. > > > > I do not have much of interaction with Goel Ji of Delhi though I have > > full respect for his astrological talent. > > > > I know Vijay Goel i of Jaipur for whom I have equal regards.// > > //This astro community is a very very small world and most of the > members of this community are sread allover the groups. > > Vijay Goela ji is very respected member but for his deep rooted and > very individualistic business interests with some of the groups > including offshhots of SJC and and some other connected people. > > Vijay Ji forgets about his satrk negative role he played in > destruction of of a well established group od astrology. I was just a > standby observant. These tricks do not work in a close knit and tight > community where are but a few to count upon. > > However, I again say he is a good astrologer, Inintailly a very > sincere soul but spoilled now by money. > > I stil wish him the very best. I wish I am anot blaming him or > putting allegations. I know him for last four yaers and can prove > what ever changes I saw in his astrological life. > > But Vijay Ji you will alwyas reamin a respected man so far I am > oncerned. The backgrounfd role you played will never, howvwer, fade > away. You know what is being talked about.// > > What you have mentioned all may or may not be correct; but may be we > should avoid such personal remarks in a group (where the mail goes to > more then 2500 members) . > I have full regard for you knowledge but may be we should be more > deplomatic in a community. Of course we can express such sincere > personal ideas and opinions during personal meetings, but essentially it > is wrong to express them in groups (since individuals -whether it be > Geol ji, Vijay ji or Bhaskar ji or anyone else - might feel insulted). > But I don't have any such objection when you express your sincere and > beautiful views (like the following) about SJC or BVB and the like. > //> My Only request is that we all know This Charakaraka replacement > theory > > is Brain Wave of Shree Sanjay Rath follwed up by some Visti Lasrsen. > It > > is a fine idea and can be experimented upon. I welcome it. > > > > My contention is only that one need not Justify it quoting Parasara. > > Parashara interpreation can not be stretched to justify that idea. > > > > As an idea, it is welcome, experiment with it and justify. Do nort use > > it as commercial tool and as a means of spreading the Empire. Use SJC > > forums for that purpose. > > > > My another and associated request is that, multiple forums of SJC be > > used for that purpose and this concept should not be made a bone of > > contention in other communities. That leads to ganging up by > interested > > elements rather than a free intellectual discussion. > > > > The idea is being spread as a cult rather than an innovative find. > > Coupled with that, many professional have jumped into the band wagon > due > > to their prefessional self interests rather than due to acedemics. > > > > Hope I have humbly and unoffendingly put across my views.// > Hope you will take this mail in positive spirit. This is my humble > request to you †" to avoid personal remarks that some one may hold > objectionable; remarks that some one might consider as insults; please > avoid them. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " Shobhana " > <shobhana_ms@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijay Ji, > > > > With all respect and due apologies. > > > > Internet Astrlogers community in India, perticularly the Englishwalas, > > whether Professional or Hobbists all over India are but a few and you > > can count them on fingers. It is a small community and calls for > healthy > > respect and interactions with each other. > > > > I have observed with dismay that instead of commradaire, they indulge > in > > petty issues and fight badly. The healthy aspects of the discussion > and > > progress of an idea gets stalled or sidelined. > > > > I do not have much of interaction with Goel Ji of Delhi though I have > > full respect for his astrological talent. > > > > I know Vijay Goel i of Jaipur for whom I have equal regards. > > > > My Only request is that we all know This Charakaraka replacement > theory > > is Brain Wave of Shree Sanjay Rath follwed up by some Visti Lasrsen. > It > > is a fine idea and can be experimented upon. I welcome it. > > > > My contention is only that one need not Justify it quoting Parasara. > > Parashara interpreation can not be stretched to justify that idea. > > > > As an idea, it is welcome, experiment with it and justify. Do nort use > > it as commercial tool and as a means of spreading the Empire. Use SJC > > forums for that purpose. > > > > My another and associated request is that, multiple forums of SJC be > > used for that purpose and this concept should not be made a bone of > > contention in other communities. That leads to ganging up by > interested > > elements rather than a free intellectual discussion. > > > > The idea is being spread as a cult rather than an innovative find. > > Coupled with that, many professional have jumped into the band wagon > due > > to their prefessional self interests rather than due to acedemics. > > > > Hope I have humbly and unoffendingly put across my views. > > > > Thanking you. > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > > > > > < , Vijay Goel > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sobhanaji, > > > > > > Thanks for the compliment. > > > My father says 'i am spoilt from the first day of birth and still > > don't > > > listen to him'. > > > > > > But i wonder, ever i have interacted with you. > > > > > > Thanks and regards , > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > > , Vijay Goel > > goyalvj@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sobhanaji, > > > > > > Thanks for the compliment. > > > My father says 'i am spoilt from the first day of birth and still > > don't > > > listen to him'. > > > > > > But i wonder, ever i have interacted with you. > > > > > > Thanks and regards , > > > Vijay Goel > > > Jaipur. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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