Rahu Kalam - Please read this . Its revealing.

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Respected Bhaskar Ji & Khurana Ji,//''''Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairag†when the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount of disenchantment. “ aurat hua bairag†can be interpreted both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean that in her too the fire of passion is no longer as strong''''''//

I reproduse the above lines as exists in original Lalkitab . It is on page 443. these are " Shukkar Chauthey Jab Paani Aaya , Aurat hua viraag,Ek se do bhee huyi, per bhuji nahin un kee aag "

The word is viraag not Bairag. The word Bairag means disenchantment as explained by Khurana ji. But the actual word is viraag which is a persian word and means " Aag ka Bhabka " or Aag ka Sholaa a big quantum of fire.

This means Shukkar when comes in the house of water, The lust for woman in the native will become like an " Aag ka Shola " (powerful for an instant) . which in result may give urge for more woman. One amongst his woman is termed like as " Zamaney Kee begum " indirectoly pointing towards the non decency. That instant lusty power may not satisfy any one and may also result in lesschild or no child.

RegardsNirmalOn Sat, Oct 11, 2008 at 12:17 PM, khurana_satpal <khurana_satpal wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Sunil Ji,

Lal Kitab Perspective:

I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar ji’s predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with the Lal Kitab perspective.

 

Bhaskar ji’ s contention that Venus happens to be the main culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.

 

Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year Varsh Phal chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal Kitab says :

 

“ Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairag†when the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount of disenchantment. “ aurat hua bairag†can be interpreted both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean that in her too the fire of passion is no longer as strong.

 

I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been pronounced after June this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e. during his entire 48th year.

 

But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The Lal Kitab doesn’t say any thing about it because in North India specially the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu Kal is not much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the Rahu are enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come forth during the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu dasha.

 

Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his Venus in order to normalize the situation.

 

Sincerely,

 

S P Khurana

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> >

> > Hare rama krishna> > dear astro surfer ji> > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such trends will> go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri bhaskar ji for

> sure and we can update our undrstanding too .> > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is entrusted and> sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for neccessary> fire needed for spiritulaity .

> > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some opinions> > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp too .> > > > regrds sunil nair>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > , " astro.surfer " > astro.surfer@ wrote:

> >> > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,> >> > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?> >> > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing in the chart?

> > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the native will be> > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising in venus star.> > It is very important to understand this venus as he is the

> > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to escape venus,> > though he might keep running from it, but it will always give good> > things in life, things that native will love to cherish and keep as

> > his prized possessions.> >> > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni paar. Venus in> > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It is no one else> > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this chart.

> >> > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See the subtle> > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus takes charge of> > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.

> >> > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in martian sign in D-1> > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars personified, is fully> > aspecting with a backward glance.

> >> > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it is only the> > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in natal chart> > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L, 7L in 7H in

> > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup, mars and Rahu.> >> > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is there in 7H in> > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary disputes between

> > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings. So in> > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in 9H, venus will> > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga saptashati in rahu

> > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and retrograde> > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh, can make him> > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha and antar

> > supporting.> >> > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the primordial> > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own other self.> > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again. This venus

> > relates to dharma.> >> > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his heart? What will> > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible combined> > significations of venus in 9H.

> >> > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I am only a> learner.> >> > Best regards> > Astrosurfer> >>

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Dear Bhaskar Ji, " Rahu Kalam in Lal Kitab " In Lal Kitab Every planet has been allocated permanent Time / kalam for them. Two nodes get the Gandantha of Day and Night or night & day. as far as I remember , approximately 120 minutes before sunrise allocated to Ketu and may be termed as Ketu's Kaal and 240 minutes allocated to Rahu after sunset to Rahu.

RegardsNirmalOn Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

Dear Khuranaji,

Yes You are right about my contention of Venus due to lal Kitab.

But it also comes through traditional, as Venus is placed in the badhakasthana.

You mentioned about fire of passion not being too strong. You may be right here, but with proper circumstances and atmosphere, and with the right approach, this fire does not take more than 10 minutes to ignite, even with rishi Munis, so who are we, but ordinary mortals. For us if external support is available, it does not take more than 30 seconds to ignite, let me be very frank with you. This is the ground level reality and applicable to most of us.

As per lal Kitab, in the 48th year , My venus stays where it is, in the natal chart, that is in the 9th house, It does not come to the 4th house, as you wrote ( Please correct me if I am wrong ).

EVEN WHEN VENUS COMES IN THE 4TH HOUSE THE RESULTS ARE SAID AS -

" Aurat ki ho aajaari "

( here " ajaari means " kashta " and not connected to passion ).

or else

" chauthe auraat do hota hai " ,

which means,'the native may have two women in his Life.

About the mention of Rahu Kalam in Lal Kitab,I know that there is a faint mention indirectly about this , but where, I am not able to pinpoint.

best wishes,

Bhaskar.

 

 

 

, " khurana_satpal " <khurana_satpal wrote:>

> > Dear Sunil Ji,> > Lal Kitab Perspective:> > I had been reading with academic interest Bhaskar ji’s> predicament during Rahu Kal. I did look at his problem with the Lal

> Kitab perspective.> > > > Bhaskar ji’ s contention that Venus happens to be the main> culprit is also borne out through the Lal Kitab.> > > > Bhaskar ji is currently in his 48th year. In his 48th year Varsh Phal

> chart Venus is placed in the 4th house for which the Lal Kitab says :> > > > “ Shukra chauthe jab paani ayaa, aurat hua bairag†when> the venus comes to the 4th house , it sets in a certain amount of

> disenchantment. “ aurat hua bairag†can be interpreted> both ways : that he gets disenchanted , it can also mean that in her too> the fire of passion is no longer as strong.> > >

> I believe his Rahu Kal predicament would have been pronounced after June> this year and is likely to last till June next year i.e. during his> entire 48th year.> > > > But why should it happen during the Rahu Kal specially ? The Lal Kitab

> doesn’t say any thing about it because in North India specially> the hill regions where the Lal Kitab originated from, Rahu Kal is not> much talked about. But in astrological terms Venus and the Rahu are

> enemies therefore the adverse effects of venus would come forth during> the period when Rahu is strong, more so during his Rahu/Rahu dasha.> > > > Therefore Bhaskar ji will have to do some thing for his Venus in order

> to normalize the situation.> > > > Sincerely,> > > > S P Khurana> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >

> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> >> > dear astro surfer ji> >> > Thanks for ur views .yes dasa also supports it i hope such trends will> > go down after this month .we will get feed backs frm sri bhaskar ji

> for> > sure and we can update our undrstanding too .> >> > i blv his sani has some spiritual mission which rahu is entrusted and> > sani being 7th L etc acting tru venus also the karaka for neccessary

> > fire needed for spiritulaity .> >> > let us wait and i hope other memebrs also will giv some opinions> >> > also i wud lov to hear opinion frm lal kitabies in grp too .

> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> >> > , " astro.surfer "

> > astro.surfer@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji, Bhaskar ji,> > >> > > Why don't you think that Ketu in 7H is the real culprit?> > >> > > Rahu and Mars hold the steering, but what is venus doing in the

> chart?> > > It is the SAARTHI? showing the direction where the native will be> > > heading. In 9H in LL Sun's constellation. Lagna rising in venus> star.> > > It is very important to understand this venus as he is the

> > > karma-dharmadhipati. The native will never be able to escape venus,> > > though he might keep running from it, but it will always give good> > > things in life, things that native will love to cherish and keep as

> > > his prized possessions.> > >> > > Venus is the Atmakarak, the planet to take him vaitarni paar. Venus> in> > > AL in 9H with and arudh of 9H in 5H of poorv punya. It is no one

> else> > > but a projection of self. Venus is the soul of this chart.> > >> > > Venus gives 7 ashtakvarga points aries and 6 in leo. See the subtle> > > root connection with lagna and LL. In vimsamsh, venus takes charge

> of> > > the wheel with mars and sun in the 7H.> > >> > > Mars, the YK fully energises this venus, who is in martian sign in> D-1> > > and aspected by mars in D-9. Rahu, who is mars personified, is fully

> > > aspecting with a backward glance.> > >> > > Venus does not fully represent spouse in the chart, it is only the> > > karak for 7H in 9H. It has no relation with 7H and 7L in natal chart

> > > as well as D-9, whereas Saturn represents wife being 7L, 7L in 7H in> > > navamsha and Dk. It is saturn all the way, with Jup, mars and Rahu.> > >> > > Rahu-kaalam impact on wife could be because ketu is there in 7H in

> > > dhanishtha. Ketu in 7H is responsible for unnecessary disputes> between> > > partners and causes disillusion and misunderstandings. So in> > > rahu-kaalam, this can surface more. Where as being in 9H, venus will

> > > promote religious affairs and it made him do durga saptashati in> rahu> > > kalam. The fault lies with ketu, not venus. Also sun and retrograde> > > mercury in Rahu's nakshatra in 2H from AK and Karkamsh, can make him

> > > say unpleasant things in rahu-kaalam, especially dasha and antar> > > supporting.> > >> > > What are the impulses that this venus gives? Venus the primordial> > > shakti, venus the ardhnaareeshwar in the chart, his own other self.

> > > Venus is in sagitarius in navamsh, the natural 9H again. This venus> > > relates to dharma.> > >> > > What is it that he would like from the bottom of his heart? What

> will> > > be the innermost urges? I am sure it is all possible combined> > > significations of venus in 9H.> > >> > > Please correct me if I am wrong in my understanding. I am only a

> > learner.> > >> > > Best regards> > > Astrosurfer> > >> >>