Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, As I know it there are 3 books - 1) Atharva Vedanaga Jyotisha (This text is NOT present in the file section; but a detailed transilation of this books is available in Delhi. The commentary is written by one of our fellow member scholar "Girija Sankar Sastri"). 2) Atharva Jyotisha (This is the book that is present in the file section of the group). 3) Atharva Vedeeya Jyotisha (This book is NOT present in the files section of the group. But this books is currently available from Chaukhamba Bookstall, Delhi) I wil try to provide, Atharva Vedanga Jyotisha and Athara Vedeeya Jyotisha in pdf - as time permits, after some months. As I know it, there is no "Atharva Parishita" (AP) on astrology available. Atharva Veda speaks about astrology herea and there. Some of the vedic references to planets and Nirayana Zodiac is available in the following articles written by me. 1) Vedic Proof of Planets 2) Vedic Proof of Sayana Nirayana Systems Both of them are useful to denay some of the arguments put forward by Kaul with proof. Regards,Sreenadh , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > I have seen the Atharva Jyotisha (AJ). I was talking about the Atharva Veda Parisishta (AP). Avtarji was mentioning that both AJ and AP are there in the file section but I could not find both. Hence the request.> > Regards,> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > Sreenadh sreesog > Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:54:20 PM> Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > In the files section, with in the "Books" folder you can find that file. The file is named Atharva Jyotish (By Bhagavad Datta).pdf (use this link).> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > About a week ago Avatarji had mentioned that one file on Atharva Veda Parisishta is there in the file section. But I could not find it there. Would you mind locating that and making it available to us if you are in the know of the location of that.> > > > Regards,> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, August 29, 2008 1:05:56 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > > Imp: Please don't send mails as attachments, since the does not store attachements. As a result, people like me who read messages from from web on group will not be able to read such such mails. (I this case I have to check the individuals mails posted to another account to get this mail). Please remember this while posting messages.> > > > Now coming to your mail content -> > * Sun can not be in Mesha when it is Punarvasu Nakshatra and Navami Tithi. (Check for the calculations in the archieves - on discussion about the same)> > * In Ramayana context the word 'Lagna' means "Sign" and NOT Ascendent. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves)> > * The word 'Kuleera' refers to 'Capricon' in Ramayana context. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves)> > * //Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta// This is an information which is NOT present in Valimiki Ramayana. (We simply don't know the Ascendent)> > //I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule "Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati". According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE.//> > Can you eloborate your 'Ankanam Vamato gati' based argument. For those who don't know what "Ankanam Vamato gati" is - It Means, Numbers should be counted from left to right. This is a rule related to Katapayadi (KTPY) Number system originated possibily by Vararuchi while he was in Kerala around AD 4th century. > > //> I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based.//> > Even though the base and elaboration of the whole of my argument regarding the same is available in the archieves (clarified during the discussion happened related to the same in this group), I will try to present them as a whole in a single pdf document as the time permits - as of now you can search the archieves with the words - "Birth of Rama" Sreenadh - and easly locate those messages posted by me. > > > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> > >> > > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > > > Further the Lagna was Kark as Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta (at noon).> > > > > > Regards> > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Friday, August 29, 2008 12:01:58 AM> > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > I have not read Brihat Prajapatya. I read quite some years a Bengali book which covered this subject. I think its name was Jatak Kaumudi. Neither I have the book with me now nor I should dare to think of pitting it against the Brihat Prajapatya, even if I would have had it with me. You are a scholar in Jyotish shastra and I do not claim to be so. Our discussion started with the dating of Lord Rama and I believe that the Graha positions at the time of the birth of Lord Rama were as follows:> > > > > > Surya------- ----0 to 1 degree in Mesh (Sun just reached Mesh)> > > Chandra --------0 to 3 degree in Kark (Moon in punarvasu)(Own house)> > > Mangal------ ----28 degree in Makar (Uccha)> > > Budh-------- --- in Mesh (Budhaditya yoga)> > > Brihaspati-- -----5 degree in Kark (Uccha)> > > Shukra------ ----27 degree in Meen (Uccha)> > > Shani------- ----20 degree in Tula (Uccha)> > > > > > I believe that Lord Rama lived in the Treta yuga and near the junction of Treta and Dwapara yuga as said in the Mahabharata and I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule "Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati". According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE.> > > > > > This is just my own conviction but I shall not like anybody to take my word for it nor I wish to enter into any argument for validation of this date, as I have already clarified the premises. Anybody can reject it if he wants to. One must do his homework and get convinced of whatever date one arrives at.> > > > > > I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based.> > > > > > Regards and all the best,> > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:55:11 PM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > > > You agree or disagree - what I wanted to convay was a FACT -> > > i.e. "AS per the ancient text Brihat Prajaptya by the Deksha Prajapati (the direct deciple of Skanda the author of Skanda hora) the word "Ucha" refers to Exaltation and this points to the WHOLE SIGN and the word "Paramocha" refers to 'Maximum degree of exaltation" and this only points to the degree of exaltation."> > > The fact that the Ancient text Brihat Prajapatya tells this remains a FACT. Hope this clarifies.> > > Love and Regards,> > > Sreenadh> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > > > You will have to pardon me as I cannot agree that we need not take the "Degree" into account in a"Rashi" when we talk of "Uccha" and "Neeccha". Astronomical dating cannot be precise by imagining any "Degree" within a "Rashi". > > > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharya> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji,Avtarji then might have referred to the file on "Atharva Veda Parisista" (AP), uploaded by Dr. R.N.Iyengar in the HinduCivilisation . I think Dr. Modak has also written a book on AP and that is published by the Rashtriya Veda Vudya Pratisthan.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, NO Atharva Veda Parisista on astrology is uploaded by R N Iyengar in Hindu civilization group. What he uploaded was this Atharva Jyotisha (This is the book that is present in the file section of the group). He gave the name Atharvana Jyotish.pdf to the file with the comment "Atharvana Jyotisham.(Ed.) Bhagavad Datta". Please note that it is the same file as uploaded/present in the files section of this group. //I think Dr. Modak has also written a book on AP and that is published by the Rashtriya Veda Vudya Pratisthan.// I am yet to hear any such thing or read about it. I have Atharva Veda with me, and I know for sure that there is not much astrology in it except some references to planets and Nakshatras. Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 2, 2008 Report Share Posted September 2, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji,I have come across the following transliteration of a verse from the Atharvaveda Parisista (AP), which to my understanding says that disasters, including bloodshed and draught, can happen in the world if Rahu (ie. both Rahu and Ketu) devours both the Moon and the Sun within a fortnight. That is why the interest in the AP. " Yadi rÄhur ubhau Å›aÅ›i-bhÄskarau grasati paká¹£am anantaram antataḥ/ puruá¹£a-Å›oṇita-kardama-vÄhinÄ« bhavati bhÅ«r na ca vará¹£ati mÄdhavaḥ ||" (AP53,3.5)Regards,Sunil K. BhattacharjyaSreenadh <sreesog Sent: Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:37:43 AM Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, NO Atharva Veda Parisista on astrology is uploaded by R N Iyengar in Hindu civilization group. What he uploaded was this Atharva Jyotisha (This is the book that is present in the file section of the group). He gave the name Atharvana Jyotish.pdf to the file with the comment "Atharvana Jyotisham.(Ed. ) Bhagavad Datta". Please note that it is the same file as uploaded/present in the files section of this group. //I think Dr. Modak has also written a book on AP and that is published by the Rashtriya Veda Vudya Pratisthan./ / I am yet to hear any such thing or read about it. I have Atharva Veda with me, and I know for sure that there is not much astrology in it except some references to planets and Nakshatras. Love and regards,Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Sunil Bhattacharjya, If I am not wrong, it is the situation when eclipse occur and when two eclipse , Solar and Lunar occur with in fortnight disaster occur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Dear Shri Kursijaji, Yes, the verse from the Atharvaveda Parisista refers to the disastrous effects of two eclipses occurring within a fortnight. Regards, Sunil Kumar Bhattacharjya S.C. Kursija <sckursija Tuesday, September 2, 2008 10:30:53 PM Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology Sunil Bhattacharjya, If I am not wrong, it is the situation when eclipse occur and when two eclipse , Solar and Lunar occur with in fortnight disaster occur Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, I am yet to see this book named Atharva Veda Parishista. I will check wether the same quote is present in the book " Atharva Vedeeya Jyotisha " present in my hand. Thanks for the info. Regards, Sreenadh , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Sunil Bhattacharjya, > If I am not wrong, it is the situation when eclipse occur and when two eclipse , Solar and Lunar occur with in fortnight disaster occur > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya > Re: Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology > > Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:33 PM > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I have come across the following transliteration of a verse from the Atharvaveda Parisista (AP), which to my understanding says that disasters, including bloodshed and draught, can happen in the world if Rahu (ie. both Rahu and Ketu) devours both the Moon and the Sun within a fortnight. That is why the interest in the AP. > > " Yadi rÄhur ubhau Å›aÅ›i-bhÄskarau grasati paká¹£am anantaram antataḥ/ puruá¹£a-Å›oṇita-kardama- vÄhinÄ« bhavati bhÅ«r na ca vará¹£ati mÄdhavaḥ || " (AP53,3.5) > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:37:43 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, >   NO Atharva Veda Parisista on astrology is uploaded by R N Iyengar in Hindu civilization group. What he uploaded was this Atharva Jyotisha (This is the book that is present in the file section of the group). He gave the name Atharvana Jyotish.pdf to the file with the comment " Atharvana Jyotisham.(Ed. ) Bhagavad Datta " . Please note that it is the same file as uploaded/present in the files section of this group. > //I think Dr. Modak has also written a book on AP and that is published by the Rashtriya Veda Vudya Pratisthan./ / >  I am yet to hear any such thing or read about it. I have Atharva Veda with me, and I know for sure that there is not much astrology in it except some references to planets and Nakshatras. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 3, 2008 Report Share Posted September 3, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji,If my memory serves me right Avtarji mentioned once that Dr. R.N.Iyengar had uploaded the AP in the file section in one of the groups, where both of them are members. I understand that the Choukhamba Granthalaya also published a book on that.Regards,Sunil Kumar BhattacharjyaSreenadh <sreesog Sent: Wednesday, September 3, 2008 5:04:57 AM Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, I am yet to see this book named Atharva Veda Parishista. I will check wether the same quote is present in the book "Atharva Vedeeya Jyotisha" present in my hand. Thanks for the info. Regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@. ..> wrote: > > Sunil Bhattacharjya, > If I am not wrong, it is the situation when eclipse occur and when two eclipse , Solar and Lunar occur with in fortnight disaster occur > > --- On Tue, 9/2/08, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a wrote: > > Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjy a > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 2, 2008, 11:33 PM > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > I have come across the following transliteration of a verse from the Atharvaveda Parisista (AP), which to my understanding says that disasters, including bloodshed and draught, can happen in the world if Rahu (ie. both Rahu and Ketu) devours both the Moon and the Sun within a fortnight. That is why the interest in the AP. > > " Yadi rÄhur ubhau Å›aÅ›i-bhÄskarau grasati paká¹£am anantaram antataḥ/ puruá¹£a-Å›oṇita-kardama- vÄhinÄ« bhavati bhÅ«r na ca vará¹£ati mÄdhavaḥ ||" (AP53,3.5) > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > Sreenadh <sreesog > > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 2, 2008 2:37:43 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Atharva Veda and Vedic Astrology > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > NO Atharva Veda Parisista on astrology is uploaded by R N Iyengar in Hindu civilization group. What he uploaded was this Atharva Jyotisha (This is the book that is present in the file section of the group). He gave the name Atharvana Jyotish.pdf to the file with the comment "Atharvana Jyotisham.(Ed. ) Bhagavad Datta". Please note that it is the same file as uploaded/present in the files section of this group. > //I think Dr. Modak has also written a book on AP and that is published by the Rashtriya Veda Vudya Pratisthan./ / > I am yet to hear any such thing or read about it. I have Atharva Veda with me, and I know for sure that there is not much astrology in it except some references to planets and Nakshatras. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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