Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, In the files section, with in the "Books" folder you can find that file. The file is named Atharva Jyotish (By Bhagavad Datta).pdf (use this link).Love and regards,Sreenadh , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji,> > About a week ago Avatarji had mentioned that one file on Atharva Veda Parisishta is there in the file section. But I could not find it there. Would you mind locating that and making it available to us if you are in the know of the location of that.> > Regards,> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog > Friday, August 29, 2008 1:05:56 AM> Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > Imp: Please don't send mails as attachments, since the does not store attachements. As a result, people like me who read messages from from web on group will not be able to read such such mails. (I this case I have to check the individuals mails posted to another account to get this mail). Please remember this while posting messages.> > Now coming to your mail content -> * Sun can not be in Mesha when it is Punarvasu Nakshatra and Navami Tithi. (Check for the calculations in the archieves - on discussion about the same)> * In Ramayana context the word 'Lagna' means "Sign" and NOT Ascendent. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves)> * The word 'Kuleera' refers to 'Capricon' in Ramayana context. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves)> * //Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta// This is an information which is NOT present in Valimiki Ramayana. (We simply don't know the Ascendent)> //I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule "Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati". According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE.//> Can you eloborate your 'Ankanam Vamato gati' based argument. For those who don't know what "Ankanam Vamato gati" is - It Means, Numbers should be counted from left to right. This is a rule related to Katapayadi (KTPY) Number system originated possibily by Vararuchi while he was in Kerala around AD 4th century. > //> I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based.//> Even though the base and elaboration of the whole of my argument regarding the same is available in the archieves (clarified during the discussion happened related to the same in this group), I will try to present them as a whole in a single pdf document as the time permits - as of now you can search the archieves with the words - "Birth of Rama" Sreenadh - and easly locate those messages posted by me. > > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> >> > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > Further the Lagna was Kark as Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta (at noon).> > > > Regards> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > > > > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, August 29, 2008 12:01:58 AM> > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > I have not read Brihat Prajapatya. I read quite some years a Bengali book which covered this subject. I think its name was Jatak Kaumudi. Neither I have the book with me now nor I should dare to think of pitting it against the Brihat Prajapatya, even if I would have had it with me. You are a scholar in Jyotish shastra and I do not claim to be so. Our discussion started with the dating of Lord Rama and I believe that the Graha positions at the time of the birth of Lord Rama were as follows:> > > > Surya------- ----0 to 1 degree in Mesh (Sun just reached Mesh)> > Chandra --------0 to 3 degree in Kark (Moon in punarvasu)(Own house)> > Mangal------ ----28 degree in Makar (Uccha)> > Budh-------- --- in Mesh (Budhaditya yoga)> > Brihaspati-- -----5 degree in Kark (Uccha)> > Shukra------ ----27 degree in Meen (Uccha)> > Shani------- ----20 degree in Tula (Uccha)> > > > I believe that Lord Rama lived in the Treta yuga and near the junction of Treta and Dwapara yuga as said in the Mahabharata and I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule "Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati". According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE.> > > > This is just my own conviction but I shall not like anybody to take my word for it nor I wish to enter into any argument for validation of this date, as I have already clarified the premises. Anybody can reject it if he wants to. One must do his homework and get convinced of whatever date one arrives at.> > > > I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based.> > > > Regards and all the best,> > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:55:11 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata> > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > > You agree or disagree - what I wanted to convay was a FACT -> > i.e. "AS per the ancient text Brihat Prajaptya by the Deksha Prajapati (the direct deciple of Skanda the author of Skanda hora) the word "Ucha" refers to Exaltation and this points to the WHOLE SIGN and the word "Paramocha" refers to 'Maximum degree of exaltation" and this only points to the degree of exaltation."> > The fact that the Ancient text Brihat Prajapatya tells this remains a FACT. Hope this clarifies.> > Love and Regards,> > Sreenadh> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > > > > You will have to pardon me as I cannot agree that we need not take the "Degree" into account in a"Rashi" when we talk of "Uccha" and "Neeccha". Astronomical dating cannot be precise by imagining any "Degree" within a "Rashi". > > > > > > Regards,> > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharya> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 1, 2008 Report Share Posted September 1, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji, I have seen the Atharva Jyotisha (AJ). I was talking about the Atharva Veda Parisishta (AP). Avtarji was mentioning that both AJ and AP are there in the file section but I could not find both. Hence the request. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Sreenadh <sreesog Sunday, August 31, 2008 9:54:20 PM Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, In the files section, with in the " Books " folder you can find that file. The file is named Atharva Jyotish (By Bhagavad Datta).pdf (use this link). Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > About a week ago Avatarji had mentioned that one file on Atharva Veda Parisishta is there in the file section. But I could not find it there. Would you mind locating that and making it available to us if you are in the know of the location of that. > > Regards, > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, August 29, 2008 1:05:56 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > Imp: Please don't send mails as attachments, since the does not store attachements. As a result, people like me who read messages from from web on group will not be able to read such such mails. (I this case I have to check the individuals mails posted to another account to get this mail). Please remember this while posting messages. > > Now coming to your mail content - > * Sun can not be in Mesha when it is Punarvasu Nakshatra and Navami Tithi. (Check for the calculations in the archieves - on discussion about the same) > * In Ramayana context the word 'Lagna' means " Sign " and NOT Ascendent. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves) > * The word 'Kuleera' refers to 'Capricon' in Ramayana context. (Clarification given earlier - check the archieves) > * //Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta// This is an information which is NOT present in Valimiki Ramayana. (We simply don't know the Ascendent) > //I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule " Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati " . According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE.// > Can you eloborate your 'Ankanam Vamato gati' based argument. For those who don't know what " Ankanam Vamato gati " is - It Means, Numbers should be counted from left to right. This is a rule related to Katapayadi (KTPY) Number system originated possibily by Vararuchi while he was in Kerala around AD 4th century. > //> I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based.// > Even though the base and elaboration of the whole of my argument regarding the same is available in the archieves (clarified during the discussion happened related to the same in this group), I will try to present them as a whole in a single pdf document as the time permits - as of now you can search the archieves with the words - " Birth of Rama " Sreenadh - and easly locate those messages posted by me. > > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > > > Dear Shreenadhji, > > > > Further the Lagna was Kark as Lord Rama was born at the Abhijit Muhurta (at noon). > > > > Regards > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Friday, August 29, 2008 12:01:58 AM > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > I have not read Brihat Prajapatya. I read quite some years a Bengali book which covered this subject. I think its name was Jatak Kaumudi. Neither I have the book with me now nor I should dare to think of pitting it against the Brihat Prajapatya, even if I would have had it with me. You are a scholar in Jyotish shastra and I do not claim to be so. Our discussion started with the dating of Lord Rama and I believe that the Graha positions at the time of the birth of Lord Rama were as follows: > > > > Surya------- ----0 to 1 degree in Mesh (Sun just reached Mesh) > > Chandra --------0 to 3 degree in Kark (Moon in punarvasu)(Own house) > > Mangal------ ----28 degree in Makar (Uccha) > > Budh-------- --- in Mesh (Budhaditya yoga) > > Brihaspati-- -----5 degree in Kark (Uccha) > > Shukra------ ----27 degree in Meen (Uccha) > > Shani------- ----20 degree in Tula (Uccha) > > > > I believe that Lord Rama lived in the Treta yuga and near the junction of Treta and Dwapara yuga as said in the Mahabharata and I also believe in the Yuga classification as given in the Bhagawat Purana, properly interpreted along the lines of the rule " Ankaanaam Vaamato Gati " . According to this Lord Rama was born prior to 3102 + 3600 = 6702 BCE. My estimate is that he was born in 7319 BCE. > > > > This is just my own conviction but I shall not like anybody to take my word for it nor I wish to enter into any argument for validation of this date, as I have already clarified the premises. Anybody can reject it if he wants to. One must do his homework and get convinced of whatever date one arrives at. > > > > I shall be glad if you also kindly let us know when you think Lord Rama took birth and it will be still better if you wish to give the premises on which it is based. > > > > Regards and all the best, > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, August 28, 2008 9:55:11 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Date of Ramayana and Mahabharata > > > > > > Dear Sunil Bhattacharjya ji, > > You agree or disagree - what I wanted to convay was a FACT - > > i.e. " AS per the ancient text Brihat Prajaptya by the Deksha Prajapati (the direct deciple of Skanda the author of Skanda hora) the word " Ucha " refers to Exaltation and this points to the WHOLE SIGN and the word " Paramocha " refers to 'Maximum degree of exaltation " and this only points to the degree of exaltation. " > > The fact that the Ancient text Brihat Prajapatya tells this remains a FACT. Hope this clarifies. > > Love and Regards, > > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadhji, > > > > > > You will have to pardon me as I cannot agree that we need not take the " Degree " into account in a " Rashi " when we talk of " Uccha " and " Neeccha " . Astronomical dating cannot be precise by imagining any " Degree " within a " Rashi " . > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sunil K. Bhattacharya > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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