Planets speak...

October 18, 2008

Dear Kursij-ji,

I feel the effect of only two planets in a house should

differ from having 4 planets in a house.

Also Sani would have a restraining effect.

In your case also, female (Ve) is coming to meet

Jup even in presence of Sun and Saturn. BTW, what

is the ascendant in your case ?

regards

chakraborty

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October 18, 2008

Dear friends,

This what the western astrology tells about Ju-Ven conjunction.

http://www.cafeastrology.com/natal/venusjupiteraspects.html

The traits described by Vreality-ji matches with the description

provided there.

'Hope you enjoy the above

Regards

chakraborty

vreality_au [reality_v]Saturday, October 18, 2008 4:02 PM Subject: Re: Planets speak...

Neelamji below is chart of female native with Sag lagna, Ju/ve conj in 9hse with Ju asp both lag and moon. Generous and forgiving to the extreme. Natal ChartOctober 10, 1967Time: 12:20:00 pmTime Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 101 E 42' 00", 3 N 10' 00"Kuala Lumpur, MalaysiaAltitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Plavanga - AswayujaTithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (81.77% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Poorvashadha (Ve) (57.58% left)rgds, Su , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway, New Delhi, India. The information contained in this electronic message and any attachments to this message are intended for the exclusive use of the addressee(s) and may contain proprietary, confidential or privileged information. If you are not the intended recipient, you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately and destroy all copies of this message and any attachments.

October 18, 2008

Dear Neelamji,

Here is an example of a Doctor (Urologist) who is MCH and a Surgeon having good practice in Kidney Transplant having Venus+Jupiter in the 11th house in Tula.

He is hardworking and my experience with him is that he is very lucky through out his life so far.

Date of birth: 8th Sept 1970

Time of birth 14.20IST

Place of birth: Mumbai

D D Trivedi--- On Sat, 10/18/08, vreality_au <reality_v wrote:

vreality_au <reality_v Re: Planets speak... Date: Saturday, October 18, 2008, 4:01 PM

Neelamji below is chart of female native with Sag lagna, Ju/ve conj in 9hse with Ju asp both lag and moon. Generous and forgiving to the extreme. Natal ChartOctober 10, 1967Time: 12:20:00 pmTime Zone: 7:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 101 E 42' 00", 3 N 10' 00"Kuala Lumpur, MalaysiaAltitude: 0.00 metersLunar Yr-Mo: Plavanga - AswayujaTithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (81.77% left)Vedic Weekday: Tuesday (Ma)Nakshatra: Poorvashadha (Ve) (57.58% left)rgds, Suancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear All,> > I thank everyone for sharing their wisdom on Guru-Shukra conjunction. Such> discussions do help in understanding the planets, and hence, better> predictive ability. Both are

Gurus, both are great benefics and great> bestowers. I am sure the discussions would have clarified a lot of doubts.> > What we are discussing is the basic nature of these planets and the> combination. How exactly it'll manifest in a chart and what kind of results> will prevail will depend a lot also on the lagna, moon and sun and the other> planetary influences.> > I do not know how and when Venus came to represent dainyas, as I do not find> anything rakshas-like in venus. Adverse influences and afflictions can make> a guru also dainya. It seems in Rig Veda, original deity Shukracharya is> divine and represents Indra, Agni and Varuna, etc. In Taittirya Brahmana,> Asu is breadth of Prajapati and when it became alive, asuras were created.> So it remains a part of divine manifestation.> > They are two gurus with

different ideologies. Different ideologies, but> leading to the same path and so they unite blissfully in pisces.> > In today's life, Venus can be a lover of beauty, women, finer sensibilities,> luxuries, easy life, etc. But venus is also knowing of self through breath,> through meditation. It is important to have a strong and energetic venus to> get into a process of knowing self. How the process starts and who is> instrumental in this awakening, will depend on the placement of venus and> Jupiter wrt lagna. The poetry, the creative impulses, paintings, come under> the domain of venus as it gives new insight and a different perception to> the life process.> > An exchange provides a better platform for working of the two gurus,> specially the tau-pisces and sagi-libra exchange (why?). If anyone has seen> the working of an

exchange of Jupiter and venus in fiery and airy signs> connected with lagna, will understand what I mean. A flash of divine> manifestation, a vision concretised and put down for the mortal world is the> work of a poet or a painter. This is also the beauty of Jup and venus> working together.> > There is another very important result of this combination, if not> afflicted. The life of a person changes through venus, the inner> realisation. It could be through a work of art which illuminates the> sensitivity, it could be a poetry that strikes the inner chord, or it could> be woman, wife or partner or friend. But somewhere venus becomes> instrumental for inner change.> > I am reminded of a very beautiful and potent ven-jup combination of Abraham> Lincoln. I think he had venus-jup combination in Pisces. Some of the> manifestations of

this combination in his life are:> > - Abraham Lincoln's religious views were unorthodox. His law partner> reported that Lincoln wrote a tract arguing against church doctrines as> he heard them, and a friend threw it into a fire to save Lincoln's> reputation. Lincoln's objections were in alignment with the deeper> teachings of yoga.> - Ever since he was a boy, Lincoln used to spontaneously meditate. His> wife once hit him with a piece of wood after he had gone so deep within, he> didn't hear her speaking!> - He had control over his breath. As a young man Lincoln was lifting and> carrying a 600-pound chicken coop, tossing a heckler a dozen feet, etc. He> had tapped into pranayama, and energy control.> - He was Yogi like in other ways also, perfecting the practice of> self-study or introspection, he could receive divine

signals. It is probably> this position and this made him for see his own death in a dream or vision.> - Abraham Lincoln was curious about psychics and mediums, starting with a> visit to a fortune teller in New Orleans, and continuing through his> years as president, when after the death of Lincoln's son Willie, his> wife brought mediums to the White House.> > We can have more illustrative examples of this combination showing how its> has performed in real life. I think Sardar Patel also had this combination> in 10H with sun and mercury, which made him a great statesman.> > Regards> Neelam>

October 18, 2008

Dear Su,Thanks for the example.Jupiter is LL in 9H with another benefic, aspecting lagna and 8L moon in it. Jupiter also becomes the rashish, so in control of body and mind. Such a jupiter, also karak in 9H, would make her lucky, religious, learned and philanthropic. Jup-ven in Leo surely represent magnanimity and she will be big hearted and generous. She would be having more of jupiterian traits in her as Jup is stronger than Ven who is 6/11 lord and a functional malefic. She has left behind venus dasha in her childhood and has yet to see the MD of Jupiter. How was her mars MD for family and children? Anything special?

RegardsNeelam