Moola Trikona

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenaadh Sir,

 

I was very fortunate to have stumbled upon that book in my sojourn

and quest for astrology. That piece is really amazing which I have

read many times.

Moola trikona was the result of trying to find out which rasi out of

the two assigned to planets would represent it better. Many

parameters have been applied for the ditermination.

 

When i was going nuts in the community over the arguments, I again

stumbled upon a few verse of Mihira and things became a little clear.

 

I shall try and assemle the dispersed pieces and put up a paper.

 

Thanks. Have a nice time and an oil bath.

 

 

-- In , " Sreenadh "

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji,

> That was a nice mail. There is already a file present in the

files

> section of the group, which provides a philosophical interpretation

to

> the concept of Moola Trikona based on Parampara. The link is:

>

Articles%

20\

> and%20E-books/Sign_Base_Jyotisha_Sidhanta_Sara.pdf

>

<Articles

%2\

> 0and%20E-books/Sign_Base_Jyotisha_Sidhanta_Sara.pdf>

> I request Rajeeva Pandit ji also to refer this article.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> , " neelam gupta "

> <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajeevapandit ji and group,

> >

> > Here are some pointers for the multikon degrees, to take the

> discussion

> > forward.

> >

> > The asterisms reveal the finer nuances of zodiacal impulsions and

also

> give

> > us a clue to the importance of certain degrees for different

planets,

> > according to which they have been assigned some special degrees. A

> planet

> > when posited witin those degrees gets a special strength to take

> forward

> > that particular impulse of the lunar mansion or sign or house

> placement.

> >

> > The nakshatras actually represent the stages of transmutation of

soul.

> They

> > take the soul through the cycle of evolution of atma and

dissolution

> into

> > paramatma.

> >

> > The divine spark, lying in the state of dormancy at the

conclusion of

> > previous cycle (manavantaric), gets energized afresh under ashwini

> where

> > under the impact of mars, the energy received by inert matter

begins

> > externalize itself and the concrete matter begins to move, act and

> express

> > its intrinsic reactions and qualities. Mars has been assigned the

task

> of

> > carrying this impulse forward, which is basically animal

> consciousness, the

> > self-seeking, self-centered qualities.

> >

> > After this beginning of journey of the soul, when the ego flows

upto

> magha,

> > the 10th star, it is individualized as human being. This is where

Sun

> gets

> > its multrikon. From here the soul gets immersed in ahankara

(egotism),

> > avidya (spiritual ignorance), and Dehabhimana (pride of one's

physical

> form)

> > and is fully immersed in materialism oblivious of its pristine

nature

> and

> > divine paternity.

> >

> > Sooner or later the past memory is aroused and ego begins to

retrace

> its

> > steps. Under Mula star, this path of withdrawal starts. It is at

Mula

> where

> > the dormant energy is untrapped, which is the place of Kundilini.

> >

> > That is how we get the multrikon, the triad (1-10-19) of

transmutation

> of

> > impulses in the evolutionary process of the soul. The landmark

> evolutionary

> > stages are marked in the lunar mansions of Ketu, the dhwaja.

Though

> > multrikon derives its name basically from this higher triad of

1,5,9

> only.

> > But other planets are also assigned important degree positions,

also

> called

> > multrikona degrees. They have their own importance and logic

behind

> them.

> >

> > While this basic cycle is energized, moon plays the manas, or the

> planet

> > which reflects the atmic consciousness through mercury. Saturn is

the

> inert

> > principle and venus carries the kama-manasic impulses which

refine the

> > animal instincts as the soul evolves.

> >

> > Can anyone say,

> >

> > Why do we have mercurial signs flanking the luminaries?

> > Why do we have jupiter's signs flanking the saturnian impulses?

> >

> > This gives us clues to multrikon degrees of other planets.

> > I'll write more on the multrikon signs of other planets in the

next

> note.

> >

> > The astrology, as done in ancient times was more of esoteric kind.

> Hence our

> > seers have based most of the principles on spiritual side of the

> being. With

> > our stretch of imagination, we keep applying these principles to

> different

> > areas of life.

> >

> > Regards

> > Neelam

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadh-ji,

 

I do agree. And I agree to the list of names provided by you....I was

just trying to write a short mail and hence omitted some names. And

I was / am hopeful that they won't mind.

 

BTW, regarding Moola Trikona, this is what my 1st Mentor told me..

at initial stages of my learning. (He did not give any quote or reference).

I remembered it.. after going thru' the mails.

 

I am just sharing it ...

______________

 

Except Sun and Moon, all the others planets have two signs. Among

these two signs, one represents the Active energy and the other sign

shows the passive side of it.

 

As the watery signs (also moksha) are passive signs, they do not

support any MT for any planet. In that way, all fiery signs (1,5,9) are

allocated MT signs of respective planets. Among other signs, sometimes

a particular sign will supplement / help the concerned planet to be

proactive

and hence, these were given MT status.

___________

 

regards

 

chakraborty

 

 

 

 

 

Sreenadh [sreesog]

Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:26 AM

 

Re: Moola Trikona

 

 

 

Dear Chakraborty ji, and all,

It is ok and at times when discussions heats up it (name calling etc)

happens. It is upto the matured members to handle such situation. It is all

the knowledgeable members like Venkatachala pathi ji, Bhaskar ji, Sobhana

ji, Souvik ji, Pandit ji, Pt. Arjun ji, Vinita ji, Renu ji, Durga ji, Leela

Madhav ji, Nirmal chandra Bharadwaj ji and many more whose contribution

should be valued.

The moderators such as Srinivas ji, Neelam ji, Sunil ji, Me, Bhagavati ji

etc are just the powerful and knowledgeable backgroup force and should keep

their coool.

It always usual for -

* Well knowledgeable confident members to use strong words and usually be

contraversial (e.g. Chandra Hari ji)

* It is always a chance that the well settled and respected members find

it unorthadox, and against the accepted tradition.

* It is always usual to treat new comers to the group as new bees to

astrology (Which is defenitly wrong).

 

Let us understand this possible pit falls in our part in judging

knowledgeable individuals like Sobhana ji and Rajeev ji, and let us try to

exract more knowledge and info from them and also provide them with the same

so as to make the group more interactive and informative.

Let astrological knowledge sharing prevail, and egos vanish. We are all

just simple and ignorant learners with excellent and genuine curiosity

(which is better than 1000 books memorized!). So be realaxed and be friendly

and be happy.

<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif> Happy knowledge

sharing. <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif>

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

"

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajeev ji, Thank you. But please call me Sreenadh (with no sir). //I am trying to put up my ideas together on the process of assigningMoola trikona. It is based on many factors of enternal triad,including representaion for Bramaha vishnu and Mahesh, Satwa Raj andTama trigunamikta and control over basic elements.I was suprprised to realise how closely it is woven with the thory oftime and space.// That is excellent - We all wait to see a detailed write-up by you on the same. It would be much informative and unique, I am sure. Wish you all the best in this effort. Hope to see the results soon. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "raajeevapndit" <raajeevapndit wrote:>> Dear Sreenaadh Sir, > > Firstly, I thank you for pardoning me for inability of resisting to > answer at at times. Unfortunately, it turned unpleasant.> > I wish you and your family a Great Holiday In Kerala. I have beem > there many times and it is out of the world.> > Kindly accept my good wishes and Greetings on Onam.> > I am trying to put up my ideas together on the process of assigning > Moola trikona. It is based on many factors of enternal triad, > including representaion for Bramaha vishnu and Mahesh, Satwa Raj and > Tama trigunamikta and control over basic elements.> > I was suprprised to realise how closely it is woven with the thory of > time and space.> > Thanking you and wishing you a great time in Kerala, The land of Gods.> > > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Rajeeva Pandit ji,> > That was an excellent mail! I apreciate. I humbly request you to> > reveal you understanding about such Tatric astrological > interpretation> > of Mool Trikona. I will come up later (after a week or so, since I > am> > now enjoying my 15 days vaccation in Kerala [] ) with a detailed> > write-up on 'The possible logic behind Exaltation and Moola Trikona> > concepts'. Of course I have a detailed and informative picture to> > present. [] But give me some time. []> > You present your view and thus enrich our knowledge, and I will> > definitly (I give my word) present my view on the same in detail > after> > some days (let me finish my onam vaccation and get back to normal) > for> > sure.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > < , "raajeevapndit"> > <raajeevapndit@> wrote:> > Dear Mahta Ji,> > > > Namashkaar.> > > > The soothing words of your made my day.> > > > hanks for reminding me of " Shiva Sutrani" for which I spent many > hours> > and blissfull / mad moments. I am grateful. Mor than that, the > soothing> > and composed words:> > > > "AISI VAANI BOLIYE MAN KA AAPAA KHOYA> > > > OURAN KO SHEETAL KARE APAHOON SHITAL HOYA"> > > > Your refrences to "Shiva Shootraani" took me into some deep recess > and> > made me ponder over it many times. there is another beautifull short> > peace called "Kaula Upnishada" of Kashmir school. I was remided of > its> > wisdom:> > > > Avatu Vaktaram : do protect me for my speech.> > > > Panch Vishaya Prapancha : The five objects of the senses constitute > the> > expanded Cosmos.> > > > Anityam Nityam : The eternal is the same as the transitory ( the> > creation involves same process and same five elements, even for the> > creation of of a child).> > > > Agyaanam Gyaanam : Ignorance is the same as knowledge.Knowledge is> > identical with the absence of knowledge.> > > > Adharma eva Dharma : (can not explain this in the forum keeping in > view> > the background).> > > > Atmarahasyam Na Vadeta. : do not divulge your soul every where.> > > > Antah skata : well I f you are Shaiavate remain so.> > > > > > > > Loke Vishnava: in Public act like a Vaishnavite.> > > > The entire essence is : What is Moolatrikona and why is it so. No > body> > is ready to say anything on this. Every one says quite a lot but > tries> > an answer to that as if a child is insisting for an enquiry why > whitw is> > white. If someone says something and is questioned, then the hell > breaks> > loose. The questiner is being chestisised in the same manner as if a> > child.> > > > > > > > But hats of to some of them > Chandra > sreenaadh to mention a> > few....they are really wonderful. The water in their Pitcher does > not> > come out due to absence of large vacume os we have. Adh jal gagari> > Chalakat Jai.> > > > so the question remains : why is Moola Trikona a Trikona and > Moola ??> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajeev ji, //> I was very fortunate to have stumbled upon that book in my sojourn > and quest for astrology. That piece is really amazing which I have > read many times.> Moola trikona was the result of trying to find out which rasi out of > the two assigned to planets would represent it better. Many > parameters have been applied for the ditermination.> > When i was going nuts in the community over the arguments, I again > stumbled upon a few verse of Mihira and things became a little clear.// That is a good news. //> I shall try and assemle the dispersed pieces and put up a paper.// True - it is such efforts that makes this group worthy. Please proceed. //> Thanks. Have a nice time and an oil bath.// Ha...Ha... OK. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "raajeevapndit" <raajeevapndit wrote:>> Dear Sreenaadh Sir, > > I was very fortunate to have stumbled upon that book in my sojourn > and quest for astrology. That piece is really amazing which I have > read many times.> Moola trikona was the result of trying to find out which rasi out of > the two assigned to planets would represent it better. Many > parameters have been applied for the ditermination.> > When i was going nuts in the community over the arguments, I again > stumbled upon a few verse of Mihira and things became a little clear.> > I shall try and assemle the dispersed pieces and put up a paper.> > Thanks. Have a nice time and an oil bath.> > > -- In , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam ji,> > That was a nice mail. There is already a file present in the > files> > section of the group, which provides a philosophical interpretation > to> > the concept of Moola Trikona based on Parampara. The link is:> > > Articles%> 20\> > and%20E-books/Sign_Base_Jyotisha_Sidhanta_Sara.pdf> > > <Articles> %2\> > 0and%20E-books/Sign_Base_Jyotisha_Sidhanta_Sara.pdf>> > I request Rajeeva Pandit ji also to refer this article.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "neelam gupta"> > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Rajeevapandit ji and group,> > >> > > Here are some pointers for the multikon degrees, to take the> > discussion> > > forward.> > >> > > The asterisms reveal the finer nuances of zodiacal impulsions and > also> > give> > > us a clue to the importance of certain degrees for different > planets,> > > according to which they have been assigned some special degrees. A> > planet> > > when posited witin those degrees gets a special strength to take> > forward> > > that particular impulse of the lunar mansion or sign or house> > placement.> > >> > > The nakshatras actually represent the stages of transmutation of > soul.> > They> > > take the soul through the cycle of evolution of atma and > dissolution> > into> > > paramatma.> > >> > > The divine spark, lying in the state of dormancy at the > conclusion of> > > previous cycle (manavantaric), gets energized afresh under ashwini> > where> > > under the impact of mars, the energy received by inert matter > begins> > > externalize itself and the concrete matter begins to move, act and> > express> > > its intrinsic reactions and qualities. Mars has been assigned the > task> > of> > > carrying this impulse forward, which is basically animal> > consciousness, the> > > self-seeking, self-centered qualities.> > >> > > After this beginning of journey of the soul, when the ego flows > upto> > magha,> > > the 10th star, it is individualized as human being. This is where > Sun> > gets> > > its multrikon. From here the soul gets immersed in ahankara > (egotism),> > > avidya (spiritual ignorance), and Dehabhimana (pride of one's > physical> > form)> > > and is fully immersed in materialism oblivious of its pristine > nature> > and> > > divine paternity.> > >> > > Sooner or later the past memory is aroused and ego begins to > retrace> > its> > > steps. Under Mula star, this path of withdrawal starts. It is at > Mula> > where> > > the dormant energy is untrapped, which is the place of Kundilini.> > >> > > That is how we get the multrikon, the triad (1-10-19) of > transmutation> > of> > > impulses in the evolutionary process of the soul. The landmark> > evolutionary> > > stages are marked in the lunar mansions of Ketu, the dhwaja. > Though> > > multrikon derives its name basically from this higher triad of > 1,5,9> > only.> > > But other planets are also assigned important degree positions, > also> > called> > > multrikona degrees. They have their own importance and logic > behind> > them.> > >> > > While this basic cycle is energized, moon plays the manas, or the> > planet> > > which reflects the atmic consciousness through mercury. Saturn is > the> > inert> > > principle and venus carries the kama-manasic impulses which > refine the> > > animal instincts as the soul evolves.> > >> > > Can anyone say,> > >> > > Why do we have mercurial signs flanking the luminaries?> > > Why do we have jupiter's signs flanking the saturnian impulses?> > >> > > This gives us clues to multrikon degrees of other planets.> > > I'll write more on the multrikon signs of other planets in the > next> > note.> > >> > > The astrology, as done in ancient times was more of esoteric kind.> > Hence our> > > seers have based most of the principles on spiritual side of the> > being. With> > > our stretch of imagination, we keep applying these principles to> > different> > > areas of life.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Chakraborty ji,

That is good info - thanks for sharing.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh-ji,

>

> I do agree. And I agree to the list of names provided by you....I was

> just trying to write a short mail and hence omitted some names. And

> I was / am hopeful that they won't mind.

>

> BTW, regarding Moola Trikona, this is what my 1st Mentor told me..

> at initial stages of my learning. (He did not give any quote or

reference).

> I remembered it.. after going thru' the mails.

>

> I am just sharing it ...

> ______________

>

> Except Sun and Moon, all the others planets have two signs. Among

> these two signs, one represents the Active energy and the other sign

> shows the passive side of it.

>

> As the watery signs (also moksha) are passive signs, they do not

> support any MT for any planet. In that way, all fiery signs (1,5,9)

are

> allocated MT signs of respective planets. Among other signs, sometimes

> a particular sign will supplement / help the concerned planet to be

> proactive

> and hence, these were given MT status.

> ___________

>

> regards

>

> chakraborty

>

>

>

>

>

> Sreenadh [sreesog]

> Saturday, September 13, 2008 10:26 AM

>

> Re: Moola Trikona

>

>

>

> Dear Chakraborty ji, and all,

> It is ok and at times when discussions heats up it (name calling etc)

> happens. It is upto the matured members to handle such situation. It

is all

> the knowledgeable members like Venkatachala pathi ji, Bhaskar ji,

Sobhana

> ji, Souvik ji, Pandit ji, Pt. Arjun ji, Vinita ji, Renu ji, Durga ji,

Leela

> Madhav ji, Nirmal chandra Bharadwaj ji and many more whose

contribution

> should be valued.

> The moderators such as Srinivas ji, Neelam ji, Sunil ji, Me, Bhagavati

ji

> etc are just the powerful and knowledgeable backgroup force and should

keep

> their coool.

> It always usual for -

> * Well knowledgeable confident members to use strong words and usually

be

> contraversial (e.g. Chandra Hari ji)

> * It is always a chance that the well settled and respected members

find

> it unorthadox, and against the accepted tradition.

> * It is always usual to treat new comers to the group as new bees to

> astrology (Which is defenitly wrong).

>

> Let us understand this possible pit falls in our part in judging

> knowledgeable individuals like Sobhana ji and Rajeev ji, and let us

try to

> exract more knowledge and info from them and also provide them with

the same

> so as to make the group more interactive and informative.

> Let astrological knowledge sharing prevail, and egos vanish. We are

all

> just simple and ignorant learners with excellent and genuine curiosity

> (which is better than 1000 books memorized!). So be realaxed and be

friendly

> and be happy.

> <http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif> Happy

knowledge

> sharing.

<http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/mesg/tsmileys2/01.gif>

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

> "

>

[Guest guest]

Dear all,

 

This is a fascinating thread as it deals with something which is "moola". These are some interesting posers by the members:

 

Shobhanaji:

My basic posers are:> > > > why a perticular rasi and a perticular degree has been assigned > as > > Exaltion of planets??> > > > Then we come to Moola Trikona. There are two simple Questions.> > > > First, what is understood by Moola ?> > > > Why is this a Trikona? Why not Rasi ??

 

why is Moola Trikona a Trikona and > Moola ??

 

 

Neelamji:

 

The mooltrikonas basically relate to the progress at the level of soul, andis more of a function of dharma trikon and initial degrees of the change incycle at 1-5-9. The first (moola) group (triad) of stars - ashwini, maghaand moola generally cover these degrees. Even of we don't give them lordshipof ketu, the fact remains that these stars fall in MT of mars, sun and Jup.This can also explain the nomenclature of mooltrikona (literally theprimary/basic/fundamental triad).Take mercury for example, only nakshatra approach can give us thedistinction between the three different positions in the same house. Verytypically mercury gets its MT degrees in Hasta, Moon's nakshatra. Why?

 

 

 

The patterns that are emerging are as follows:

 

Only two grahas have the same sign for exaltation and mooltriknona, ie,

 

Moon

Mercury

 

The MT of both these grahas are ruled by the Nakshatra of Moon, i.e., Rohini and Hasta respectively.

 

The MT of the remaining grahas are ruled by nakshatras of Rahu or Ketu (is that correct???):

 

Mars – Ashwin

Sun – Magha

Venus – Swati

Jupiter – Moola

Saturn – Shatabishak

 

As already pointed out by the members:

 

All fiery signs (dharma trikonas) have grahas in MTs

None of the water signs (moksha trikonas) have grahas in MTs

Two airy signs (of kaama trikona) and two earth signs (of artha trikona) contain grahas in MT

Gemini and Capricorn in addition to signs in the moksha trikonas have no grahas in MT

 

Gemini is the only sign which has neither any graha in exaltation nor in MT.

 

My query, like those of others is - What does all this imply??????

 

 

Do the MTs clearly divide grahas in 2 categories:

Mars, Sun and Jupiter in one family?

Moon, Mercury, Venus and Saturn in another family?

 

Are the MTs the bedrock of something?

 

What is the importance of Moola Nakshatra?

 

Are the MTs of grahas ruled by Rahu-Ketu-Moon?

 

Have the MTs of grahas got something to do with the eclipsing of the mind/illusion/maya?

 

Is this the reason why Moksha Trikonas do not contain any MT?

 

Eager to learn from members…….

 

regards,

vinita

 

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinita Kumar and other friends,

 

Good questions... hope with guidance from seniors, we can

get to a logical direction, if not conclusion.

 

When we discuss exaltation and MT, all planets get an

additional place (after the deep exaltation degree) which

is considered equal to MT. Like Sun.. gets exalted in

10 deg Aries, and 10+deg-30 deg is considered equivalent

to MT of Sun. (Although some consider the whole Aries as

exaltation sign for Sun)

 

If we look that way, Moon and Mercury have less place (MT)

allotted to them ... they have not been allowed an additional

MT place like other normal planets. Why ?

 

Excluding watery signs, only Gemini and Capricorn are left behind

who do not have any MT.. At least Capricorn gets an exaltation

for Mars ... (and so some area where Mars will have equivalent

MT). Probably that's why some give MT of airy Rahu to Gemini.

 

Just wondering.. whether the Chanchal Moon and Mercury needs

a strong earthy base for exaltaion ? And Moon needs outside

support (of Venus) to function well ?

 

regards

 

chakraborty

 

 

 

 

 

vinita kumar [shankar_mamta]

Sunday, September 14, 2008 5:03 PM

 

Re: Moola Trikona

 

 

 

 

Dear all,

 

 

 

This is a fascinating thread as it deals with something which is " moola " .

These are some interesting posers by the members:

 

 

 

Shobhanaji:

 

My basic posers are:

> >

> > why a perticular rasi and a perticular degree has been assigned

> as

> > Exaltion of planets??

> >

> > Then we come to Moola Trikona. There are two simple Questions.

> >

> > First, what is understood by Moola ?

> >

> > Why is this a Trikona? Why not Rasi ??

 

 

 

why is Moola Trikona a Trikona and

> Moola ??

 

 

 

 

 

Neelamji:

 

 

 

The mooltrikonas basically relate to the progress at the level of soul, and

is more of a function of dharma trikon and initial degrees of the change in

cycle at 1-5-9. The first (moola) group (triad) of stars - ashwini, magha

and moola generally cover these degrees. Even of we don't give them lordship

of ketu, the fact remains that these stars fall in MT of mars, sun and Jup.

This can also explain the nomenclature of mooltrikona (literally the

primary/basic/fundamental triad).

 

Take mercury for example, only nakshatra approach can give us the

distinction between the three different positions in the same house. Very

typically mercury gets its MT degrees in Hasta, Moon's nakshatra. Why?

 

 

 

 

 

The patterns that are emerging are as follows:

 

 

 

Only two grahas have the same sign for exaltation and mooltriknona, ie,

 

 

 

Moon

 

Mercury

 

 

 

The MT of both these grahas are ruled by the Nakshatra of Moon, i.e., Rohini

and Hasta respectively.

 

 

 

The MT of the remaining grahas are ruled by nakshatras of Rahu or Ketu (is

that correct???):

 

 

 

Mars - Ashwin

 

Sun - Magha

 

Venus - Swati

 

Jupiter - Moola

 

Saturn - Shatabishak

 

 

 

As already pointed out by the members:

 

 

 

All fiery signs (dharma trikonas) have grahas in MTs

 

None of the water signs (moksha trikonas) have grahas in MTs

 

Two airy signs (of kaama trikona) and two earth signs (of artha trikona)

contain grahas in MT

 

Gemini and Capricorn in addition to signs in the moksha trikonas have no

grahas in MT

 

 

 

Gemini is the only sign which has neither any graha in exaltation nor in MT.

 

 

 

My query, like those of others is - What does all this imply??????

 

 

 

 

 

Do the MTs clearly divide grahas in 2 categories:

 

Mars, Sun and Jupiter in one family?

 

Moon, Mercury, Venus and Saturn in another family?

 

 

 

Are the MTs the bedrock of something?

 

 

 

What is the importance of Moola Nakshatra?

 

 

 

Are the MTs of grahas ruled by Rahu-Ketu-Moon?

 

 

 

Have the MTs of grahas got something to do with the eclipsing of the

mind/illusion/maya?

 

 

 

Is this the reason why Moksha Trikonas do not contain any MT?

 

 

 

Eager to learn from members.......

 

 

 

regards,

 

vinita

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinita Kumar Ji,

This is really a very significant progress made by you and very good contribution in understanding the concept of Moola trikona. This is somewhat what it is but not sompletely.

Start from here. Like Nirrukta Sukta of Rik veda.

First there was Nothingness. (0)

Then cam existence and light. But It was one.(1)

Then came Darkness also. it turnded into day and night. The complete ecliptic belonged to sun. Then it was devided beween Sun and Moon. ( this is now 2)

How it was devided and in which order is known to all. That gave birth to the concept of Hora. First the elliptic belonged only to Sun and Moon as in the haze of creation nothing more is visble. Then other five Khechar appear. But ether a place belongs to Moon or the Sun. However due to movenet of sun and Moon it is well known now the elliptic has tweleve parts.But Go further and try undersatnd the two dimension of universe within three dimension. Or let it be at two. You know the concept of Parashari hora. That describes earlier satge. Then moon part and Sun part is devided into six each. Then comes cyclical Horas? That actually is the crux of matter towars understanding of Rasi and Moola trikona.

Then came the problem of defining the the celestail sphere and the ecliptic to be precise into three parts. Ok it was also decided upon. The zero degree or start point being zero degree of Moola. That is the graviatational center and center of maximus mass of our glaxy. As also someting like our Mooladhara.

The elliptic was devided into parts and a new concept of time dimension called Dreskona or Drakkana or trikonna, etc, three dimensions modelling came into being.

One has to keep in mind, that whenever Time is described, space as a dimension always becomes vital tio describe time as linearity. Space also involve direction. Indian philosophy and religious thought is full of the synchronomity or the absence of coordination between the two.

So far thre were 28 constellations with 28 lords. lordship of Nakshtras based on planets and their order was done at the stage of trisection of the ecliptic. Here comes the concept of Moola trikona. hare is the first attempt that will give life to Rasies in a multi faceted and multi dimensional way.

So you have actaully reached the answer but a few loose ends are to be tied.

Thanks for the innovative reply and breaking some of the Vinci code. :0)

 

, "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> > Dear all,> > > > This is a fascinating thread as it deals with something which is> "moola". These are some interesting posers by the members:>

 

 

 

, "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> > Dear all,> > > > This is a fascinating thread as it deals with something which is> "moola". These are some interesting posers by the members:> > > > Shobhanaji:> > My basic posers are:> > >> > > why a perticular rasi and a perticular degree has been assigned> > as> > > Exaltion of planets??> > >> > > Then we come to Moola Trikona. There are two simple Questions.> > >> > > First, what is understood by Moola ?> > >> > > Why is this a Trikona? Why not Rasi ??> > > > why is Moola Trikona a Trikona and> > Moola ??> > > > > > Neelamji:> > > > The mooltrikonas basically relate to the progress at the level of soul,> and> is more of a function of dharma trikon and initial degrees of the change> in> cycle at 1-5-9. The first (moola) group (triad) of stars - ashwini,> magha> and moola generally cover these degrees. Even of we don't give them> lordship> of ketu, the fact remains that these stars fall in MT of mars, sun and> Jup.> This can also explain the nomenclature of mooltrikona (literally the> primary/basic/fundamental triad).> > Take mercury for example, only nakshatra approach can give us the> distinction between the three different positions in the same house.> Very> typically mercury gets its MT degrees in Hasta, Moon's nakshatra. Why?> > > > > > The patterns that are emerging are as follows:> > > > Only two grahas have the same sign for exaltation and mooltriknona, ie,> > > > Moon> > Mercury> > > > The MT of both these grahas are ruled by the Nakshatra of Moon, i.e.,> Rohini and Hasta respectively.> > > > The MT of the remaining grahas are ruled by nakshatras of Rahu or Ketu> (is that correct???):> > > > Mars – Ashwin> > Sun – Magha> > Venus – Swati> > Jupiter – Moola> > Saturn – Shatabishak> > > > As already pointed out by the members:> > > > All fiery signs (dharma trikonas) have grahas in MTs> > None of the water signs (moksha trikonas) have grahas in MTs> > Two airy signs (of kaama trikona) and two earth signs (of artha> trikona) contain grahas in MT> > Gemini and Capricorn in addition to signs in the moksha trikonas have no> grahas in MT> > > > Gemini is the only sign which has neither any graha in exaltation nor in> MT.> > > > My query, like those of others is - What does all this imply??????> > > > > > Do the MTs clearly divide grahas in 2 categories:> > Mars, Sun and Jupiter in one family?> > Moon, Mercury, Venus and Saturn in another family?> > > > Are the MTs the bedrock of something?> > > > What is the importance of Moola Nakshatra?> > > > Are the MTs of grahas ruled by Rahu-Ketu-Moon?> > > > Have the MTs of grahas got something to do with the eclipsing of the> mind/illusion/maya?> > > > Is this the reason why Moksha Trikonas do not contain any MT?> > > > Eager to learn from members…….> > > > regards,> > vinita>

[Guest guest]

Dear Vinita Kumar Ji,

u can call me vinita

Start from here. Like Nirrukta Sukta of Rik veda.

First there was Nothingness. (0) - no dimension...a point?

Then cam existence and light. But It was one.(1) - single dimension - a line piercing darkness / nothingness?

Then came Darkness also. it turnded into day and night. The complete ecliptic belonged to sun. Then it was devided beween Sun and Moon. ( this is now 2) - 2 dimensions - a plane?

You know the concept of Parashari hora. - not really! That describes earlier satge. Then moon part and Sun part is devided into six each. Then comes cyclical Horas? Now, what is that? That actually is the crux of matter towars understanding of Rasi and Moola trikona.???

Then came the problem of defining the the celestail sphere and the ecliptic to be precise into three parts. - three dimensional space that we live in? Ok it was also decided upon. The zero degree or start point being zero degree of Moola. That is the graviatational center and center of maximus mass of our glaxy. As also someting like our Mooladhara.- Wow! They say we will be aligned to this gravitational centre 21st Dec. 2012. Sun is in Moola Nakshatra on this day....There are other features as well....for activating the Mooldhara during Ascension!!!???

The elliptic was devided into parts and a new concept of time dimension called Dreskona or Drakkana or trikonna, etc, three dimensions modelling came into being.

One has to keep in mind, that whenever Time is described, space as a dimension always becomes vital tio describe time as linearity. Space also involve direction. Indian philosophy and religious thought is full of the synchronomity or the absence of coordination between the two.- i don't understand this. What about time as a fourth dimension?

So far thre were 28 constellations with 28 lords. lordship of Nakshtras based on planets and their order was done at the stage of trisection of the ecliptic. - what is a trisection? Here comes the concept of Moola trikona. hare is the first attempt that will give life to Rasies in a multi faceted and multi dimensional way.

So vargas represent finer and finer dimensions of space-time, starting from ...dimension / division - D-1?

Are we not looking for vivedhta may ekta, ekta may vividhta?

Breaking the particle into finer and finer parts to get to the truth/ the god particle / the creation of the universe....that is us??? :0)

Ha, ha, i enjoyed this!

love,

vinita

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Thanks Sunil Ji,

 

" //as regrds to exlatation signs and degress once bhaskra ji

discussed in this grp already ,u can refer archives .Also

mythological plus astrological explantions r their but not abt how

they arrive at degrees except what bhaskar ji pointed out i blv " //

 

I will difinitely refer these articles.

 

Few years back I had been studying the traditional astrology called

vedic astrology and familiar with different systems in this branch

except Bhrigu & Nadi.

Presently the system I am studying does not require Degrees, Rashis,

nakshatras at all and looks more practical to me. I have my

reservations regarding the way Rashis being used in vedic astrology,

I will discuss it on some other day as soon as my studies complete.

Regards

Nirmal

[Guest guest]

Respected Sreenadh Ji'

I am grateful for your motivation. Learned people always do act like

this to the students. I am a learner of this unique system of

astrology and feel lucky to start this study after completing the

studies of most of other system of Traditional astrology. I will

surely contribute to the subject as far as my little knowledge is

concerned.

Best Regards

Nirmal

[Guest guest]

Dear Niramal ji,

You are following an excellent and unique system of astrology - viz.

Lal Kitab Astrology. When pondered over like any other traditional

system/parampara, the Lal Kitab astrology too reveals great amount of

knowledge and understanding.

Please do reveal to us the intricasises of this system to us - as

they gets revealed to you.

By the way, there is no teachers in this group but only students. I

am only a humble student ancient indian astrology - and student always.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Respected Sreenadh Ji'

> I am grateful for your motivation. Learned people always do act like

> this to the students. I am a learner of this unique system of

> astrology and feel lucky to start this study after completing the

> studies of most of other system of Traditional astrology. I will

> surely contribute to the subject as far as my little knowledge is

> concerned.

> Best Regards

> Nirmal

>