Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Dear Members, Just keep this data ready.... if all are interested can discuss this later.... Male- 26-Feb-1962, 15:45hrs, Colombo, Sri Lanka Female - 18-Dec.-1974, 16:00 hrs., Colombo, Sri Lanka Contrary to my earlier astro_analysis, came to know that this couple are likely to get married in the next few weeks { all formalities complete, including marriage day finalized}. We will discuss - reasons of attraction & events leading to the marriage. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sreenivas ji and grp for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of my old mail frm this grp itself so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us do it , so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall . then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna .And more over mano karaka. And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of 1) 7th Lord 2) planets in 7th house 3) planets aspecting 7th house supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that we calculated as promise of marriage then see the dasas of 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening , also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many points in chart . Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation . puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka called puth ,by their karmas . 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house . Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage . In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the chart has to be delivered . so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to marriage and test it on real life happenings , regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> genuine charts where such events happened.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 7, 2008 Report Share Posted September 7, 2008 hare rama krishna dear grp i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> my old mail frm this grp itself> > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> do it ,> > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> .And more over mano karaka.> > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > 1) 7th Lord> > 2) planets in 7th house> > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > then see the dasas of> > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> points in chart .> > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> chart has to be delivered .> > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > , "sreeram srinivas"> sreeram64@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Members,> >> > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > genuine charts where such events happened.> >> > With regards,> >> > Sreeram_Srinivas> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 Respected Sh.Sunil Nair, Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted. With warm regards--- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing Date: Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM hare rama krishna dear grp i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> my old mail frm this grp itself> > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> do it ,> > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> .And more over mano karaka.> > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > 1) 7th Lord> > 2) planets in 7th house> > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > then see the dasas of> > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> points in chart .> > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> called puth ,by their karmas ..> > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> chart has to be delivered .> > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> sreeram64@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Members,> >> > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > genuine charts where such events happened.> >> > With regards,> >> > Sreeram_Srinivas> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 8, 2008 Report Share Posted September 8, 2008 hare rama krihna dear Kursija ji good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology . but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest . but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> With warm regards> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing> > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > > > > > > hare rama krishna> dear grp > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > do it ,> > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > .And more over mano karaka.> > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > > > > > then see the dasas of> > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > points in chart .> > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > chart has to be delivered .> > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > sreeram64@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > >> > > With regards,> > >> > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil Nair, Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage. D D Trivedi--- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing Date: Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM hare rama krihna dear Kursija ji good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology . but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest . but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija@.. .> wrote:>> Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> With warm regards> --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > > > > > > hare rama krishna> dear grp > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > do it ,> > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > .And more over mano karaka.> > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > > > > > then see the dasas of> > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > points in chart .> > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > chart has to be delivered .> > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > sreeram64@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Members,> > >> > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > >> > > With regards,> > >> > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Namaste Mr. Dushant Trivedi ji, The potential of 7H in getting a partner is to be also seen i.e. kama trikona - for 7H = 11H & 3H. These houses are Trinal to 7H. They also contribute to the strength of finding the partner !! With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear dushyant ji Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas . we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part . so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs . so let us do practical charts regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> > Dear Sunil Nair,> > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage.> > D D Trivedi> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM> > > > > > > > > hare rama krihna > dear Kursija ji > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology .> > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest .> but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ .> wrote:> >> > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> > With warm regards> > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna> > dear grp > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > > > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > > do it ,> > > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > > > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > > .And more over mano karaka.> > > > > > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > > > > > > > > > then see the dasas of> > > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > > points in chart .> > > > > > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > > > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > > > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > > > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > > chart has to be delivered .> > > > > > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Members,> > > >> > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > > >> > > > With regards,> > > >> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil Nair, Here is the birth details and date of marriage. DOB 20TH th Dec 1947 TOB 18.28 IST POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat Latitude 24.03N Longitude 73.04 E Date of marriage 6th June 1975 and place of marriage Mumbai. Hope this will help. D D Trivedi --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:45 AM Hare ramakrishna dear dushyant ji Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas . we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part . so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs . so let us do practical charts regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi <trivedi20@.. .> wrote: > > > Dear Sunil Nair, > > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage. > > D D Trivedi > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM > > hare rama krihna > dear Kursija ji > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology . > > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest . > but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " S.C. Kursija " sckursija@ ..> wrote: > > > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair, > > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted. > > With warm regards > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > dear grp > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp > > > > > > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of > > > my old mail frm this grp itself > > > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which > > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us > > > do it , > > > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall . > > > > > > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not > > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the > > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord > > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna > > > .And more over mano karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of > > > > > > 1) 7th Lord > > > > > > 2) planets in 7th house > > > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house > > > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that > > > we calculated as promise of marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > then see the dasas of > > > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord > > > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening , > > > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or > > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And > > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a > > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho > > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical > > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many > > > points in chart . > > > > > > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of > > > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer > > > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord > > > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our > > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands > > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina > > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed > > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation . > > > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka > > > called puth ,by their karmas . > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in > > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india > > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father > > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors > > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise > > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house . > > > > > > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage . > > > > > > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv > > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the > > > chart has to be delivered . > > > > > > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate > > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to > > > marriage and test it on real life happenings , > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreeram srinivas " > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to > > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or > > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to > > > > genuine charts where such events happened. > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear dushyant ji we expect a analsis also frm ur part ,so as other memebrs may get benefit ,then we can discuss it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> > Dear Sunil Nair,> > Here is the birth details and date of marriage.> > DOB 20TH th Dec 1947> TOB 18.28 IST> POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat Latitude 24.03N Longitude 73.04 E> > Date of marriage 6th June 1975 and place of marriage Mumbai.> > Hope this will help.> > D D Trivedi > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:45 AM> > > > Hare ramakrishna> dear dushyant ji> > Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas .> we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part .> so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs .> > so let us do practical charts> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage.> > > > D D Trivedi> >> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> >> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > hare rama krihna> > dear Kursija ji> > > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology .> > > > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest .> > but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ .> wrote:> > >> > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> > > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come.> > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> > > With warm regards> > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > >> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > hare rama krishna> > > dear grp> > > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Hare rama krishna> > > >> > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > > > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > >> > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > > > do it ,> > > >> > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the> > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > > > .And more over mano karaka.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > >> > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > >> > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > >> > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > >> > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > > > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > then see the dasas of> > > >> > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > >> > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > >> > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > > > points in chart .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > >> > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > >> > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > >> > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > >> > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > > > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > > > chart has to be delivered .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > > > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Members,> > > > >> > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > > > >> > > > > With regards,> > > > >> > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil Nair, The lagnesh+saptmesh+labhesh gives the marriage point. When it is trigerred by transit Jupiter or Saturn marriage takes place. If this is applied the example given complies by the rule. D D Trivedi --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:07 AM Hare ramakrishna dear dushyant ji we expect a analsis also frm ur part ,so as other memebrs may get benefit ,then we can discuss it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi <trivedi20@.. .> wrote: > > > Dear Sunil Nair, > > Here is the birth details and date of marriage. > > DOB 20TH th Dec 1947 > TOB 18.28 IST > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat Latitude 24.03N Longitude 73.04 E > > Date of marriage 6th June 1975 and place of marriage Mumbai. > > Hope this will help. > > D D Trivedi > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing > ancient_indian_ astrology > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:45 AM > > > > Hare ramakrishna > dear dushyant ji > > Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas . > we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part . > so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs . > > so let us do practical charts > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair, > > > > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage. > > > > D D Trivedi > > > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krihna > > dear Kursija ji > > > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology . > > > > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest . > > but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " S.C. Kursija " sckursija@ .> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair, > > > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted. > > > With warm regards > > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote: > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna > > > dear grp > > > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology . > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of > > > > my old mail frm this grp itself > > > > > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which > > > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us > > > > do it , > > > > > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not > > > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the > > > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord > > > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna > > > > .And more over mano karaka. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of > > > > > > > > 1) 7th Lord > > > > > > > > 2) planets in 7th house > > > > > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house > > > > > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that > > > > we calculated as promise of marriage > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > then see the dasas of > > > > > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord > > > > > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening , > > > > > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or > > > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And > > > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a > > > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho > > > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical > > > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many > > > > points in chart . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of > > > > > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer > > > > > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord > > > > > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our > > > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands > > > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina > > > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed > > > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation . > > > > > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka > > > > called puth ,by their karmas . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in > > > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india > > > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father > > > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors > > > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise > > > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv > > > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the > > > > chart has to be delivered . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate > > > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to > > > > marriage and test it on real life happenings , > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreeram srinivas " > > > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to > > > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or > > > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to > > > > > genuine charts where such events happened. > > > > > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear trivedi ji pls lead the discussion by u giving u r analsysis ,explain it ,all systems r welcome here .so go ahed sir let every one join u ,it is not good i analsyse all charts and all others r silent ,do we call it mutual discussions ??,it will b like a class room is it not ,so take lead sir . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> > Dear Sunil Nair,> > The lagnesh+saptmesh+labhesh gives the marriage point. When it is trigerred by transit Jupiter or Saturn marriage takes place. If this is applied the example given complies by the rule.> > D D Trivedi> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:07 AM> > > > Hare ramakrishna> dear dushyant ji> > we expect a analsis also frm ur part ,so as other memebrs may get benefit ,then we can discuss it> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > Here is the birth details and date of marriage.> > > > DOB 20TH th Dec 1947> > TOB 18.28 IST> > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat Latitude 24.03N Longitude 73.04 E> > > > Date of marriage 6th June 1975 and place of marriage Mumbai.> > > > Hope this will help.> > > > D D Trivedi > >> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> >> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:45 AM> >> >> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > dear dushyant ji> > > > Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas .> > we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part .> > so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs .> > > > so let us do practical charts> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > > > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage.> > > > > > D D Trivedi> > >> > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > >> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > hare rama krihna> > > dear Kursija ji> > > > > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology .> > > > > > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest .> > > but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must .> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ .> wrote:> > > >> > > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> > > > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come.> > > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> > > > With warm regards> > > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > hare rama krishna> > > > dear grp> > > > > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > >> > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > > > > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > > >> > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > > > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > > > > do it ,> > > > >> > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the> > > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > > > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > > > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > > > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > > > > .And more over mano karaka.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > > >> > > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > > >> > > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > > >> > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > > >> > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > > > > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > then see the dasas of> > > > >> > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > > >> > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > > >> > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > > > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > > > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > > > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > > > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > > > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > > > > points in chart .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > > >> > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > > >> > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > > >> > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > > > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > > > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > > > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > > > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > > >> > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > > > > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > > > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > > > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > > > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > > > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > > > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > > > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > > > > chart has to be delivered .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > > > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > > > > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > > > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > > > > >> > > > > > With regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Namaste ji, While on the topic of marriage timing, may I ask if you also give us some indications taken from nadi astrology.. I read in the book of C S Patel,(navamsha and nadi astrology) where he mentions, given all the conditions of marriage indicated are in natal chart and met, the appropriate dashas and antras are running,, for marriage timing you have to see the transits.. He mentions that in the Chandra kala nadi(Deva Keralam) the 7H from Mars forms the sensitive point ( trigger point) and transits of jupiter and saturn by placement or aspect will cause the wedding to take place.. He says although venus is the karka for marriage but mars is responsible for the marriage to actually take place.. This is interesting from the point of modern life( esp in west) where given the right astrological combinations a couple may decide to co- habit but not necessarily 'get married' Perhaps this trigger point of 7th H from mars(T) is missing in their charts???? Furthermore,, what would you say by the ashtavarga system whereby the 7H has the lowest or highest points in the natal chart and also the effects of the individual planets responsible for marriage like the 7th lord, jupiter or venus having very low or very high number of points in the 7H. How do you see the role of shani? By placement in the 7H it does not harm marriage, even if the marriage is lacking in spontaneous-ness and affection, but it tends to last longer.. yet by aspect it may delay or deny marriage.. Also in transit, aspect or placement of jupiter and shani helps marriage to take place.. Kindly share your experiences and clear some cobwebs in our understanding.. Warmest regards Sheevani , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair, > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come. > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted. > With warm regards > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala > Re: Marriage_Timing > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM > hare rama krishna > dear grp > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology . > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp > > > > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of > > my old mail frm this grp itself > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us > > do it , > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall . > > > > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna > > .And more over mano karaka. > > > > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of > > > > 1) 7th Lord > > > > 2) planets in 7th house > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that > > we calculated as promise of marriage > > > > > > > > then see the dasas of > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening , > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many > > points in chart . > > > > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation . > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka > > called puth ,by their karmas . > > > > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house . > > > > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage . > > > > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the > > chart has to be delivered . > > > > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to > > marriage and test it on real life happenings , > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Members, > > > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to > > > genuine charts where such events happened. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil Nair, On casting the horoscope given for example we find that the Lagnesh is Mercury placed in Scorpio at 26* 49' 23", Saptamesh Jupiter is also in Scorpio at 19* 30' 35" and Labhesh Mars is in Leo at 12* 22' 10". If we add the longitudes of all these three we get the marriage point in Scorpio at 28* 42' 08". If we check the longitudes of planets on the day of marriage we get Jupiter at 24* 14' 24". This transit Jupiter triggers the marriage point by its 9th aspect. If we take this principle and check the marriages that have taken place you will find that in 90 % of the cases this comes out correct. Statistically therefore we can consider this being correct. Hope this clarifies my approach for timing of marriage. D D Trivedi--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear dushyant ji here daily 40 to 60 mails are appearing ,so see each chart and say my opinions and feed backs it next to impossible as u know i hav lot of work also ,so since this is a discussion forum i expect every one to do their part and each one may b having own favrite systems ,we respect each and every system too,so other s can check it on known charts and come out with their own versions or doubts ,this is an interaction forum . so more participation better ,now i hope u may try the charts posted by ssji thanks for ur post regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , dushyant trivedi <trivedi20 wrote:>> > Dear Sunil Nair,> > On casting the horoscope given for example we find that the Lagnesh is Mercury placed in Scorpio at 26* 49' 23", Saptamesh Jupiter is also in Scorpio at 19* 30' 35" and Labhesh Mars is in Leo at 12* 22' 10". If we add the longitudes of all these three we get the marriage point in Scorpio at 28* 42' 08".> If we check the longitudes of planets on the day of marriage we get Jupiter at 24* 14' 24".> > This transit Jupiter triggers the marriage point by its 9th aspect.> > If we take this principle and check the marriages that have taken place you will find that in 90 % of the cases this comes out correct. Statistically therefore we can consider this being correct.> > Hope this clarifies my approach for timing of marriage.> > D D Trivedi> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Marriage_Timing> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:32 AM> > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> dear trivedi ji> pls lead the discussion by u giving u r analsysis ,explain it ,all systems r welcome here .so go ahed sir> > let every one join u ,it is not good i analsyse all charts and all others r silent ,do we call it mutual discussions ??,it will b like a class room is it not ,so take lead sir .> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > The lagnesh+saptmesh+ labhesh gives the marriage point. When it is trigerred by transit Jupiter or Saturn marriage takes place. If this is applied the example given complies by the rule.> > > > D D Trivedi> >> > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> >> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 10:07 AM> >> >> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > dear dushyant ji> > > > we expect a analsis also frm ur part ,so as other memebrs may get benefit ,then we can discuss it> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > > > Here is the birth details and date of marriage.> > > > > > DOB 20TH th Dec 1947> > > TOB 18.28 IST> > > POB Khedbrahma, North Gujarat Latitude 24.03N Longitude 73.04 E> > > > > > Date of marriage 6th June 1975 and place of marriage Mumbai.> > > > > > Hope this will help.> > > > > > D D Trivedi > > >> > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > >> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 8:45 AM> > >> > >> > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > dear dushyant ji> > > > > > Thanks for the mail ,i agree also with ur points .But how can we apply in charts and running dasas .> > > we even tho discuss theorys ,as a practising astrologer and also has enquisiv mentality i am alwys after the phala part .> > > so we can strt with actual charts ,otherwise all 12 houses one way or other way we can stablish with theorys ,but what we r looking is for replicable methods ,I find even some ppl establish some thing by going sookhsma prana dehantaras ,as a part of Post mortem study .But when we devide a dasa to such levels all 9 planets will b participating in less than one hr basis at times ,so how an astrologr can see it in a mahadasa of 20 yrs .> > > > > > so let us do practical charts> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, dushyant trivedi trivedi20@ .> wrote:> > > >> > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Nair,> > > > > > > > Marriage is between Male and female. Self and Life partner. It means the Ascendant and the Lord of the 7th house. In Kaal Purush Chart the 8th house is the house of reproductive organs. The 4th house is the house of happiness. Thus the 11th house which is 4th from 8th fullfills the happiness of reproductive organs. Hence if a relationship when established between the ascnendant, 7th house and the 11th house should give marriage.> > > > > > > > D D Trivedi> > > >> > > > --- On Tue, 9/9/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > >> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Tuesday, September 9, 2008, 1:11 AM> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > > hare rama krihna> > > > dear Kursija ji> > > > > > > > good suggestion but i need charts to explain ,i cannot use my customers charts without their permission ,also dont think that i know everything in astrology .> > > > > > > > but i am still reserching in it and marriage predictions are my spl area which i am concentrting and also digging more into it on various questions which can arise frm a queriest .> > > > but i will try to explain what ever i know frm time to time ,but grp interaction and support is a must .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "S.C. Kursija" sckursija@ .> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> > > > > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning topic for which most of the people come.> > > > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> > > > > With warm regards> > > > > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... wrote:> > > > >> > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Marriage_Timing> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > hare rama krishna> > > > > dear grp> > > > > > > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in astrology .> > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > >> > > > > > dear sreenivas ji and grp> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > for judging marriage time of a nativ i am reproducing some extracts of> > > > > > my old mail frm this grp itself> > > > > >> > > > > > so let discuss with charts ,if grp is willing to share with datas which> > > > > > marriage is already happened ,it will b a good learning exprnce .let us> > > > > > do it ,> > > > > >> > > > > > so u hav to see the dasa promise in chart then after ascertaining the> > > > > > marriage age ,and see in which categary this will fall .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > then see who is strongest to giv marriage ,suppose 7th Lord dasa is not> > > > > > happening then do u think there wont be marriage ,so we hav to see the> > > > > > strnght of planets .say moon is more stronger than venus or 7th lord> > > > > > .then he is capable as moon is pivotal point in chart ,also 2nd lagna> > > > > > .And more over mano karaka.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > And after considering all these parameters , say the dasa of> > > > > >> > > > > > 1) 7th Lord> > > > > >> > > > > > 2) planets in 7th house> > > > > >> > > > > > 3) planets aspecting 7th house> > > > > >> > > > > > supposing their dasa or antara is not happening in estimated time that> > > > > > we calculated as promise of marriage> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > then see the dasas of> > > > > >> > > > > > 4) see the dispositer of 7th Lord or his navamsa Lord> > > > > >> > > > > > 5)Then venus or moon who ever is stronger and its dasa is happening ,> > > > > >> > > > > > also rahu who is stronger with shubha drishti and in good bhavas or> > > > > > concerned bhavas etc ( as rahu is karaka for bhouthika sukha also ).And> > > > > > my opinion actualy rahu is the strongest planet who can make or break a> > > > > > chart ,and he can terrorise any planet ,means he is more powerful .Tho> > > > > > this planets r shadow planets or mathematical points without physical> > > > > > body (like gulika and other aprakasita grhas )he can influnce many> > > > > > points in chart .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Again still none of these dasas r happening ,then see the dasas of> > > > > >> > > > > > 6) lord of 2nd house or his dispositer> > > > > >> > > > > > 7)The planets in conjunction with 7th Lord> > > > > >> > > > > > 8) 9th lord ----because 9th is dharma bhava ,this bhava demands our> > > > > > duties and rinas towards pitrus and deva and guru and religion demands> > > > > > ( each one we do in diffrnt way ) marriage is completion of pitru rina> > > > > > also as marriage is increasing kula and also the children are supposed> > > > > > to do pitru karmas and good karmas and help ancestrers for salvation .> > > > > >> > > > > > puth trayate ithi putra --children will help us to cross the naraka> > > > > > called puth ,by their karmas .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 9) 10 the lord ---there is diffrnce of opinion abt house of father ( in> > > > > > south india generaly take 9th house for father where as in north india> > > > > > who follows more parasari system they take 10th house as house of father> > > > > > ,even in tajika system of astrology also --may be due to social factors> > > > > > and customs ) ,so 10th also an alternate house of father ,other wise> > > > > > this is main kendra ,again 10th is supporting house of 9th house .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Then if this dasas r happening it will b qualified to giv marriage .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > In first 2 sets till 5th one the dasa and antara are qualified to giv> > > > > > marriage where as in later cases only antaras will do .As promise in the> > > > > > chart has to be delivered .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > so let us discuss in deep ,hope every one contribute and co operate> > > > > > ,then we can discuss lot of hidden aspects in charts as regrds to> > > > > > marriage and test it on real life happenings ,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram srinivas"> > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Let us get out from recent hangover over our moods..... switch to> > > > > > > Romantic moods...... and get back to Marriage Timing - i.e. Asura or> > > > > > > Gandharva type. First discuss the combinations and then we switch to> > > > > > > genuine charts where such events happened.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 hare ramakrishna dear shivani ji yes nadies use some points for marriage also in tajika also has sahams (arabic points they say in english ) ,but all this i am using less this days as lack of time . chandrakala nadi and allmost all nadies take mars as karaka for husband too in ladies chart ,but sensitiv point to arrive at there is diffrnt methods based on each charts ,also we shud use the nadi vakya panchanga ,with lahiri it will b some times wrong too .( i will try to write on it a seperate article as it needs a full 64KB post ) In ashtavarga astrology i blv diffrnce in points if more than 1/3 with lagna and 7th ,marriage may delay or controverisal like asura ,gandharva etc ,there are experts in our grp and i am passing baton to them . sani in 7th depending on strnght i hav seen it has given even beutiful partners with stable marriage ,i think the clue is nakshtra lordships of sani too in purticular chart .other wise weak sani may giv old looking or vridha ,or cold realtionships but difficult to part ,but 8th house rules breaks ,so if both house is infected then chances of breaks and deaths also there thanks for u r post . more i will write later regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "sheevani147" <sheevani147 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > Namaste ji,> > While on the topic of marriage timing, may I ask if you also give us > some indications taken from nadi astrology..> > I read in the book of C S Patel,(navamsha and nadi astrology) where > he mentions, given all the conditions of marriage indicated are in > natal chart and met, the appropriate dashas and antras are > running,, for marriage timing you have to see the transits.. He > mentions that in the Chandra kala nadi(Deva Keralam) the 7H from Mars > forms the sensitive point ( trigger point) and transits of jupiter > and saturn by placement or aspect will cause the wedding to take > place.. He says although venus is the karka for marriage but mars is > responsible for the marriage to actually take place..> > This is interesting from the point of modern life( esp in west) where > given the right astrological combinations a couple may decide to co-> habit but not necessarily 'get married' Perhaps this trigger point of > 7th H from mars(T) is missing in their charts????> > Furthermore,, what would you say by the ashtavarga system whereby the > 7H has the lowest or highest points in the natal chart and also the > effects of the individual planets responsible for marriage like the > 7th lord, jupiter or venus having very low or very high number of > points in the 7H.> > How do you see the role of shani? By placement in the 7H it does not > harm marriage, even if the marriage is lacking in spontaneous-ness > and affection, but it tends to last longer.. yet by aspect it may > delay or deny marriage.. Also in transit, aspect or placement of > jupiter and shani helps marriage to take place..> > Kindly share your experiences and clear some cobwebs in our > understanding..> > Warmest regards> Sheevani> > , "S.C. Kursija" > sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sh.Sunil Nair,> > Thanks for the new topic for discussion. I shall be glad if the > topic should be started with the basics and fundamentals such as yoga > for marriage, yoga for denial, multiple marriages, love marriage, > extra-marital relations and timing of marriage. It is the burning > topic for which most of the people come. > > With the discussion and experience we will be more equipted.> > With warm regards> > --- On Mon, 9/8/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: Marriage_Timing> > > > Monday, September 8, 2008, 1:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hare rama krishna> > dear grp > > > > i will reproduce some more dictums in old classicals texts like > jatakadesam etc when discussion is getting more serious ,as i dont > blv in simply writing articles and explanations ,so more charts > means more discussions ,learning and sharing .Let us learn frm each > other and our exprnce ,one ounce of exprnce is better than one tone > of knowledge .so we ready to face reality ,rite ??as we r serious in > astrology .> > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 9, 2008 Report Share Posted September 9, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Namaste. Thank you so much for your response.. I dearly look forward to your write up on nadi astrology,, but I am also aware that you are a very busy person with time restraints etc.. It would certainly be wonderful if members who are knowledgeable in any arm of vedic astrology, be it traditional parashara,jaimini, ashtavarga, nadi, KP etc would make a contribution to this thread especially in relation to marriage.. Like they say,, if you ask, at least there is a 50% chance that someone might oblige.. Thanking you, Sheevani Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear members: It looks like he was married in ME MD. In normal circumstances, he should be married in this MD, which came into play when he was between 21 and 38 years of age. So actually only AD comes into real play in his case. By process of elimination one can zero in on the most possible AD. The first two ADs can be rejected outright both of them are in the sixth house either in Rasi or NAV. The next possiblity is Venus. Again Ve is 12 and 5L in Rasi and 5 and 10Lin NAV. Small possibility in its link to House of progeny otherwise nothing to crow about. Then Su AD, it also has small possibility because of its link to 5H. The next AD moon- its 2l in the 10H in Rasi related to karma trikona. However in NAY, -related to marriage it is 7L in the 7h aspected by Venus, the kalatrakaraka. Next possibility is Mars. In NAV it is 4 & 11l exhalted in the 7H aspected by Venus. However if you compare it with Moon- it is in the astrism of Jupiter aspected by Jupiter in Rasi whereas Mars is in the astrism of Ketu. Moon AD has a slight edge over Mars with this regards. If the chart was presented to me without the marriage date, I would have no trouble in saying that there is a great possibility of marriage happening in Moon AD and a lesser possibility that it can happen in Mars AD Regards anantha krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Sh.Anantha Krishnan, It will be better if you give the reference and then analyse the chart. regards--- On Wed, 9/10/08, Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote: Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 Re: Marriage_Timing Date: Wednesday, September 10, 2008, 8:12 AM Dear members:It looks like he was married in ME MD. In normal circumstances, he should be married in this MD, which came into play when he was between 21 and 38 years of age. So actually only AD comes into real play in his case.By process of elimination one can zero in on the most possible AD. The first two ADs can be rejected outright both of them are in the sixth house either in Rasi or NAV. The next possiblity is Venus. Again Ve is 12 and 5L in Rasi and 5 and 10Lin NAV. Small possibility in its link to House of progeny otherwise nothing to crow about. Then Su AD, it also has small possibility because of its link to 5H. The next AD moon- its 2l in the 10H in Rasi related to karma trikona. However in NAY, -related to marriage it is 7L in the 7h aspected by Venus, the kalatrakaraka. Next possibility is Mars. In NAV it is 4 & 11l exhalted in the 7H aspected by Venus. However if you compare it with Moon- it is in the astrism of Jupiter aspected by Jupiter in Rasi whereas Mars is in the astrism of Ketu. Moon AD has a slight edge over Mars with this regards. If the chart was presented to me without the marriage date, I would have no trouble in saying that there is a great possibilityof marriage happening in Moon AD and a lesser possibility that it can happen in Mars ADRegardsanantha krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear all, In following this thread, I thought of sharing this article which I have in my collection. Regards, bhagavathi Timing of Events through Dasha and Transit of Planets S.K. SAWHNEY The birth chart of any native indicate the promise inherent in a Horoscopic chart because of the position of planet in chart and other qualifications that attend upon it, i.e., its location, conjuctions, aspects and its position and location in divisional chart. the horoscope only indicate the inherent promise. The time when promise will fructify depend uopn dasha and transit of planets. The total dasha period of a planet is divided in different parts and ruled by different planets. The dasha operative at the time of a particular planet and the results will pertains to natural signification, lordship, placements, aspects and strength of planet. The major period is known as mahadasa, the major period is further divideded into sub-period, and in Major dasha subperiod of all the planets are operative. Whenever, any important event is happening in the life of a native, the transit of planets play an important role, particularly transit of SATURN and JUPITER is very important. When SATURN and JUPITER both influence a house and house lord, activity related to that house start happening. In transit SUN indicate the month of event and the MOON indicate the day of event. In other word, we can say SATURN approve and JUPITER bless the event. For predicating any event in any natal chart, we have to study Dasha Anterdashas of planets and transit of planets particularly transit of SATURN/JUPITER. I have studied number of horoscopes and developed certain principals which clearly indicate as to when the particular event is likely to happen. I am discussing below the principals applicable for happening of following events by giving examples. These principals have been tested on number of horoscope and found accurate. Timing of Marriage Operative Dasha Parameter 1. Dasha of VIIth Lord. 2. Dasha of Lagna Lord. 3. Lagna Lord of D-9. 4. Dasha of RAHU/VENUS natural significator. 5. Dasha of VIIth lord from VENUS. 6. Planet position VIIth from Venus. 7. Dasha of planet posted in VIIth house, aspecting VIIth house or Lord. 8. Dispositer of VIIth Lord. Transit of Planets Parameter 1. Saturn and Jupiter will influence two conditions out of four mentioned below : i. VIIth house ii. VIIth Lord iii. Lagna iv. Lagna Lord 2. The Sun may indicate month of marriage by influincing one of four conditions mentioned above by posting or aspect. 3. The Moon may indicate date of marriage by influincing one of four conditions mentioed above by posting or aspect. CASE STUDY-1 Date of Birth : 19.10.1952 Time of Birth : 15.15 PM Place of Birth : Najibabad Date of Marriage : 26.12.1983 Dasha operative at the time of marriage Vimshotri : Jup/Rahu 09.05.1982 to 02.10.1984 Yognie : Samhta/Bhadrika Dasha Dasha oerating at the time of marriage was of Jupiter which is aspecting VIIth house and VIIth lord. Anterdasha operating was of RAHU which is natural significator of marriage. Hence operating Dasha and Anterdasha are covered under parameter 1 and 4 of Dasha parameter. Yogni Dasha Yogni dasha operatinf at the time of marrige was of SANKTA which is equivalent to RAHU the natural significator of marriage. The anterdasha operating was Bhadrika equivalent to Mercury which is posted with VIIth lord Sun. Hence dasha and anterdasha operating at the time of marriage are covered under parameter 4 and 5 of Dasha parameter. Transit At the time of marriage Saturn was transmitting in Libra where VIIth Lord Sun is posted. The Jupiter was transiting in Sagitarius from where it is aspecting VIIth house. Hence paramaters set in transit conditions are fulfilled. The Sun was transiting in Sagitarius it has just passed through Libra where VIIth lord Sun was posted. The moon at the day of marriage was in Cancer likely to enter Leo which is VIIth house. CASE STUDY- 2 Date of Birth : 08.11.1955 Time of Birth : 14.33 PM Place of Birth : Delhi Date of Marriage : 07.02.1977 Dasha operative at the time of marriage Vimshotri : VENUS/KETU 31.03.1976 to 31.05.1977 Yognie : SANKATA/SIDDHA 30.05.1976 to 19.12.1977 Dasha Vimshotri Dasha operating at the time of marriage was Venus the natural significator of marriage and anterdasha was of Ketu which is posted in VIIth house from Venus in the sign of Venus which is natural significator of marriage. Hence operating dasha and anterdasha are covered under parameter 4 and 5 of dasha parameter. Yogni Dasha Dasha operating at the time of marriage was of Sankta which is equivalent of Rahu, i.e., natural significator of marriage. The anterdasha was of Siddha which is equivalent to Venus. The Venus is the natural significator of marriage and is lord of VIIth from Venus hence operating dasha and anterdasha are covered under parameter 4 and 5 of dasha parameter. Transit Saturn was transiting in Cancer on date of marriage and was aspecting VIIth house since Saturn was ®. The Jupiter was transiting in Aries from where it was aspecting VIIth house and VIIth lord Sun. The Sun was in Capricorn likely to enter in Aquarius, i.e., in Lagna. The Moon was in Virgo it has just passed through Leo which is VIIth house. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear Bhagavathi ji and Sreeram ji, The marriage of the natives whose charts were given by Sreeram ji is to take place on 11th September 2008 . Let me try it as per points given by Bhagavathi ji. Female: 18th Dec. 1974 @ 16:00 in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Lagna : Taurus Navamsa Lagna: Aquarius Vimsottari Dasha applicable: Ju/Ve/Me Jupiter is in Rahu's constellation a natural significator for marriage. Rahu is placed in 7H in this chart. Venus is a natural significator for marriage and also Lagna Lord. Mercury is 7th Lord from Venus. Hence dasha qualifies to give marriage. Transits: Saturn influneces Lagna Jupiter doesn't infuence Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. But Jupiter infuences Venus and 7H from Venus. 2. Sun does not influence any of the 4 conditions. Tr Sun aspects natal Jupiter, MD Lord. 3. Moon does not influence any of the 4 conditions but Moon is with Venus aspecting 7H from Venus as well, in the early hours of 11th Sep. Male: 26th Feb. 1962 @ 15:45 in Colombo Sri Lanka. Lagna: Cancer Navamsa Lagna: Leo Vimsottari Dasha: Ke/Me/Me Ke is placed in 7H Me is placed in 7H Transits: Saturn does not influences LL, Moon Jupiter does not infuence Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. 2. Sun does not aspect Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. But Sun aspects Venus. 3. Moon goes to 7H on 11th of September. I feel that Bhagavathi ji's parameters are applicable to this case. Only transit Jupiter doesn't influence any house or planet related to marriage in the male horoscope. May be Jupiter does not bless this marriage.... blessings, Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear Renuji,Has Brihaspati becoming margi contributed also? Pardon this Brihaspati-bhakta for butting in.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjyarenunw <renunw Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 6:01:02 AM Re: Marriage_Timing Dear Bhagavathi ji and Sreeram ji, The marriage of the natives whose charts were given by Sreeram ji is to take place on 11th September 2008 . Let me try it as per points given by Bhagavathi ji. Female: 18th Dec. 1974 @ 16:00 in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Lagna : Taurus Navamsa Lagna: Aquarius Vimsottari Dasha applicable: Ju/Ve/Me Jupiter is in Rahu's constellation a natural significator for marriage. Rahu is placed in 7H in this chart. Venus is a natural significator for marriage and also Lagna Lord. Mercury is 7th Lord from Venus. Hence dasha qualifies to give marriage. Transits: Saturn influneces Lagna Jupiter doesn't infuence Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. But Jupiter infuences Venus and 7H from Venus. 2. Sun does not influence any of the 4 conditions. Tr Sun aspects natal Jupiter, MD Lord. 3. Moon does not influence any of the 4 conditions but Moon is with Venus aspecting 7H from Venus as well, in the early hours of 11th Sep. Male: 26th Feb. 1962 @ 15:45 in Colombo Sri Lanka. Lagna: Cancer Navamsa Lagna: Leo Vimsottari Dasha: Ke/Me/Me Ke is placed in 7H Me is placed in 7H Transits: Saturn does not influences LL, Moon Jupiter does not infuence Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. 2. Sun does not aspect Lagna, LL, 7H or 7HL. But Sun aspects Venus. 3. Moon goes to 7H on 11th of September. I feel that Bhagavathi ji's parameters are applicable to this case. Only transit Jupiter doesn't influence any house or planet related to marriage in the male horoscope. May be Jupiter does not bless this marriage.... blessings, Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear Renuji, Thank you for the good analysis. The author has written a good article, my particular interest in this is only transits. I was thinking of extending the article with some more observed parameters. Why not use karaka of marriage also when we apply transits. Then- In the male chart, jupiter aspects 7H from venus, Saturn and Sun are in 7H from Venus, moon will be in Kumbha, on Venus between Sept13-15. So the marriage could take place between 13-16, either when moon makes an entry or it just leaves that rashi, in case before 18th, as Sun would move away from Leo on 17th In the female chart, if we use Jupiter as Karaka - then all the above holds true for the female also. So is Jupiter on his way to bless the couple????? Regards, bhagavathi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear Bhagavathi ji, //In the male chart, jupiter aspects 7H from venus, Saturn and Sun are in 7H from Venus, moon will be in Kumbha, on Venus between Sept13-15. So the marriage could take place between 13-16, either when moon makes an entry or it just leaves that rashi, in case before 18th, as Sun would move away from Leo on 17th// Thanks for pointing out which I missed. I overlooked Jupiter's aspect on 7H from Venus and Sa + Su placed in 7H from Venus in the male chart. The marriage registration and the ceremony will take place tomorrow, the 11th. Hope Jupiter will bless this marriage... blessings Renu , " bhagavathi_hariharan " <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: > > Dear Renuji, > > Thank you for the good analysis. The author has written a good > article, my particular interest in this is only transits. I was > thinking of extending the article with some more observed parameters. > Why not use karaka of marriage also when we apply transits. Then- > > In the male chart, jupiter aspects 7H from venus, Saturn and Sun are > in 7H from Venus, moon will be in Kumbha, on Venus between Sept13-15. > So the marriage could take place between 13-16, either when moon > makes an entry or it just leaves that rashi, in case before 18th, as > Sun would move away from Leo on 17th > > In the female chart, if we use Jupiter as Karaka - then all the above > holds true for the female also. > > So is Jupiter on his way to bless the couple????? > > > Regards, > > bhagavathi > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 10, 2008 Report Share Posted September 10, 2008 Dear Renuji,My query is as to how much is the contribution of Brihaspati in facilitating the marriage to be solemnised on September11. I believe that without Brihaspati's blessings good things rarely happen in a person's life.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjyarenunw <renunw Sent: Wednesday, September 10, 2008 10:30:51 AM Re: Marriage_Timing Dear Sunil B ji, Sorry, I don't get your question.... kindly explain. blessings, Renu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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