Attempted suicide

[Guest guest]

Dear Liana,

I beg your pardon. I misjudged your written word 'complete' as 'compete'. But I was right about my assessment about members like us , that we are into flexible approaches and would always look for inputs and using more methods to accentuate our knowledge already in our possessions.

best wishes, and awaiting to hear about your analysis on my birth chart.

Bhaskar.

, "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> Dear Baskar ji,> > Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and> Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western> side. > I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps> you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for assessment. > Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am> very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one> can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.> Warm Regards,> > Liana> > > , "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Liana ,> > You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module, for> > the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details are> > as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near> > Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP Ayanamsa).> > regards, Bhaskar.> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Liana,> > >> > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It> > > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of> > > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western> > > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal> > > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars.> > >> > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way> > > you prefer -> > >> > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars.> > >> > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part.> > >> > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions.> > >> > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files> > > section.> > >> > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "blulisan"> > > blulisan@ wrote:> > > >> > > > ~Namaste~> > > > Dear Shobhana ji,> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As> > some> > > > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but> > because> > > > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > > > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> > > > conclusions are the same.> > > > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues,> > in> > > > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in> > this> > > > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > > > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > > >> > > > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to> > achieve> > > > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > > > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > > > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> > > > planet is transiting her 12th house.> > > >> > > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > > > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > > > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > > > attempt to suicide.> > > >> > > > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > > > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for> > her> > > > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > > > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > > > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities,> > to> > > > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > > > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > > > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> > > >> > > > I hope it helps> > > >> > > > P.S.> > > >> > > > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > > > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > > > Warm Regards,> > > >> > > > Liana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Shobhana"> > > > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope.> > > The> > > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> > > finished> > > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus> > Moon> > > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut> > out> > > come> > > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> > > lagna.> > > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign> > with> > > Mars> > > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would> > make> > > her> > > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> > > appear to> > > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and> > lord> > > of> > > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> > > exchange> > > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion> > > with> > > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> > > 12th,> > > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> > > aspecting> > > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya> > > lord> > > > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > > > lagna or> > > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for> > > life> > > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> > > mercury> > > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry> > out> > > > > attemts on ones life.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by> > lord> > > of> > > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest> > to> > > the> > > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> > > bhaga> > > > > in the Rasi.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3> > chart.> > > Lord> > > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is> > Venus.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical> > > odds> > > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> > > troturing> > > > > the Moon.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter> > > in> > > > > the fifth house.> > > > >> > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > >> > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > >> > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,> > children,> > > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.> > It> > > is> > > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> > > trouble> > > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> > > indicating> > > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival> > > of> > > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is> > > with> > > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in> > between> > > can> > > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> > > issue.> > > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> > > her> > > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> > > ralation> > > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> > > and> > > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and> > problems> > > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan> > lord> > > ) or> > > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> > > Cancer /> > > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> > > from> > > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns> > the> > > GK> > > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No> > other> > > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and> > partner> > > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> > > needs to> > > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will> > go> > > on> > > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I> > > am> > > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Baskar ji,Please don't worry about misunderstanding, or misjudging, i will not run so easy from this group i am interested to learn and participate on discussions here and offer my help as much possible. The purpose is learning not arguing on such kind of innocent mistakes. Please kindly give me one day or so and i will post my reading on your chart. Meantime i will send you my DOB so you can also see my chart if you would like.Warm Regards,Liana , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Liana,> > I beg your pardon. I misjudged your written word 'complete' as> 'compete'. But I was right about my assessment about members like us ,> that we are into flexible approaches and would always look for inputs> and using more methods to accentuate our knowledge already in our> possessions.> > best wishes, and awaiting to hear about your analysis on my birth chart.> > Bhaskar.> > > , "blulisan"> blulisan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Baskar ji,> >> > Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and> > Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western> > side.> > I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps> > you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for> assessment.> > Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am> > very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one> > can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Liana ,> > > You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module,> for> > > the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details> are> > > as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP> Ayanamsa).> > > regards, Bhaskar.> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Liana,> > > >> > > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western> astrology.It> > > > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make> use of> > > > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per> Western> > > > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal> > > > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars.> > > >> > > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other> way> > > > you prefer -> > > >> > > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars.> > > >> > > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part.> > > >> > > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions.> > > >> > > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the> Files> > > > section.> > > >> > > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "blulisan"> > > > blulisan@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ~Namaste~> > > > > Dear Shobhana ji,> > > > > Dear All,> > > > >> > > > > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As> > > some> > > > > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but> > > because> > > > > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > > > > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different> the> > > > > conclusions are the same.> > > > > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy> issues,> > > in> > > > > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in> > > this> > > > > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > > > > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > > > >> > > > > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to> > > achieve> > > > > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > > > > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > > > > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another> dangerous> > > > > planet is transiting her 12th house.> > > > >> > > > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > > > > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating> other> > > > > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try> again to> > > > > attempt to suicide.> > > > >> > > > > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > > > > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences> for> > > her> > > > > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS> for> > > > > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > > > > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental> activities,> > > to> > > > > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a> victim.> > > > > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > > > > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this> situation.> > > > >> > > > > I hope it helps> > > > >> > > > > P.S.> > > > >> > > > > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > > > > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > > > > Warm Regards,> > > > >> > > > > Liana> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Shobhana"> > > > > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the> horoscope.> > > > The> > > > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> > > > finished> > > > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of> Saturn.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For> the> > > > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus,> Venus> > > Moon> > > > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear> cut> > > out> > > > come> > > > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects> the> > > > lagna.> > > > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign> > > with> > > > Mars> > > > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons,> would> > > make> > > > her> > > > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> > > > appear to> > > > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and> > > lord> > > > of> > > > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> > > > exchange> > > > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for> the> > > > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish> realion> > > > with> > > > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord> of> > > > 12th,> > > > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> > > > aspecting> > > > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has> become a> > > > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong> trishadaya> > > > lord> > > > > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > > > > lagna or> > > > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka> for> > > > life> > > > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between> the> > > > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a> possibility> > > > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> > > > mercury> > > > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one> carry> > > out> > > > > > attemts on ones life.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected> by> > > lord> > > > of> > > > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are> nerest> > > to> > > > the> > > > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the> Mrityu> > > > bhaga> > > > > > in the Rasi.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3> > > chart.> > > > Lord> > > > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is> > > Venus.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious> physical> > > > odds> > > > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> > > > troturing> > > > > > the Moon.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka> Jupiter> > > > in> > > > > > the fifth house.> > > > > >> > > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > > >> > > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > > >> > > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,> > > children,> > > > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of> comaptibilty.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her> marriage.> > > It> > > > is> > > > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> > > > trouble> > > > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> > > > indicating> > > > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the> suvival> > > > of> > > > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the> lagna is> > > > with> > > > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in> > > between> > > > can> > > > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may> the> > > > issue.> > > > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she> thinks> > > > her> > > > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me.> Their> > > > ralation> > > > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup> Saturn> > > > and> > > > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu> is> > > > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and> > > problems> > > > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan> > > lord> > > > ) or> > > > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is> undergoing,> > > > Cancer /> > > > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight> rasi> > > > from> > > > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as> satuns> > > the> > > > GK> > > > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No> > > other> > > > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and> > > partner> > > > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4> are> > > > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt.> She> > > > needs to> > > > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant)> will> > > go> > > > on> > > > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion> survives I> > > > am> > > > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native> only.> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards.> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Baskar ji,Dear AllLink for free western Astrology software you can find here :http://www.zaytsev.com/ It is a professional software and i am using it many times, so warmly recommended for western system charts. If anyone needs help for settings after download please let me know.I hope it helps.Warm Regards,Liana , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Liana,> > // i would like to see how Western and> Jyotish complete each other by> analyzing your chart from the western > side. //> > To people like us, who are flexible in their approaches and always ready> to learn newer techniques, we will never find the Western and Eastern> analysis competeing each other, but would always find them complementing> each other.> > I thank you for juding me worthy to analyse your chart.> > I need now, two help from you.> > 1) Your birth details with long lat. also mention Male Female.> > 2) The link to the site which offers free software for the western> approach.> > Thanks in anticipation.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "blulisan"> blulisan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Baskar ji,> >> > Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and> > Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western> > side.> > I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps> > you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for> assessment.> > Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am> > very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one> > can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> >> > , "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Liana ,> > > You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module,> for> > > the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details> are> > > as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near> > > Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP> Ayanamsa).> > > regards, Bhaskar.> > >> > > , "Bhaskar"> > > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Liana,> > > >> > > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western> astrology.It> > > > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make> use of> > > > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per> Western> > > > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal> > > > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars.> > > >> > > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other> way> > > > you prefer -> > > >> > > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars.> > > >> > > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part.> > > >> > > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions.> > > >> > > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the> Files> > > > section.> > > >> > > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige .> > > >> > > > best wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar. I

[Guest guest]

Dear Sreenadji n All respected members who have analysed this case,

What has been the role of Ketu or even Rahu in the persons horoscope. And with

Sun so pwerfull ( or has it moved in Chalit ) it could be case of imbalanced

strength.

Just asking for views as Ketu is known to cause such tendencies.

 

Chiranjiv Mehta

[Guest guest]

Hi friends,

I came across this

group today while surfing for astrology sites and groups. Took some time to

browse

the archives and find it quite interesting and informative.

I am a hobbyist with some

formal training in Indian Astrology. I dabble with different systems and am open

to learning and sharing new techniques. I am happy to notice the enthusiasm of

members to apply many different techniques to a single chart to justify the

results.

I¢ll also be keen to

learn western astrology techniques from Liana.

Thank you all

astro.surfer

 

 

 

Bhaskar <rajiventerprises

 

Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:28:50 PM

Re: Attempted suicide

 

 

Dear Liana,

I beg your pardon. I misjudged your written word 'complete' as 'compete'.. But

I was right about my assessment about members like us , that we are into

flexible approaches and would always look for inputs and using more methods to

accentuate our knowledge already in our possessions.

best wishes, and awaiting to hear about your analysis on my birth chart.

Bhaskar.

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, " blulisan " <blulisan

wrote:

>

> Dear Baskar ji,

>

> Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and

> Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western

> side.

> I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps

> you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for assessment.

> Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am

> very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one

> can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.

> Warm Regards,

>

> Liana

>

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Astro Surfer ji, Welcome to the group. Yes, it is a pleasure to be here among all these learned members all well versed in different tools. Wish you happy knowledge sharing. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Astro Surfer <astro.surfer wrote:>> Hi friends,> I came across this> group today while surfing for astrology sites and groups. Took some time to browse> the archives and find it quite interesting and informative.> I am a hobbyist with some> formal training in Indian Astrology. I dabble with different systems and am open> to learning and sharing new techniques. I am happy to notice the enthusiasm of> members to apply many different techniques to a single chart to justify the> results.> I¢ll also be keen to> learn western astrology techniques from Liana.> Thank you all> astro.surfer> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Tuesday, September 16, 2008 4:28:50 PM> Re: Attempted suicide> > > Dear Liana,> I beg your pardon. I misjudged your written word 'complete' as 'compete'.. But I was right about my assessment about members like us , that we are into flexible approaches and would always look for inputs and using more methods to accentuate our knowledge already in our possessions.> best wishes, and awaiting to hear about your analysis on my birth chart.> Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "blulisan" blulisan@ wrote:> >> > Dear Baskar ji,> >> > Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and> > Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western> > side.> > I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps> > you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for assessment.> > Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am> > very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one> > can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> >>

[Guest guest]

Respected Shobhana Ji,

A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It is

a good example for the students like me to follow.

 

" //The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just

finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of

Saturn. " //

I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of calculating

the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.

Regards

Nirmal

, " Shobhana "

<shobhana_ms wrote:

>

>

> Dear Sreenaadha Ji,

>

>

>

> Om Namo Narayana

>

>

>

> With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope.

The

> Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just

finished

> her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.

>

>

>

> From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the

> native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon

> occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out

come

> is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the

lagna.

> Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with

Mars

> which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would

make her

> attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not

appear to

> Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated

> madhyamaayu of lower bracket.

>

>

>

> Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord

of

> the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by

exchange

> of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the

> ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion

with

> lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of

12th,

> it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,

aspecting

> second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a

> Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya

lord

> Venus located in the fourth.

>

>

>

> For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the

lagna or

> minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,

> subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for

life

> being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the

> fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility

> stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is

mercury

> and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out

> attemts on ones life.

>

>

>

> Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by

lord of

> the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to

the

> Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu

bhaga

> in the Rasi.

>

>

>

> The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart.

Lord

> of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.

>

>

>

> One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical

odds

> to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are

troturing

> the Moon.

>

>

>

> What is problem with this chart.

>

>

>

> The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:

>

>

>

> Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter

in

> the fifth house.

>

> Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.

>

> Mercury under heavy affliction

>

> And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.

>

>

>

> I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,

> income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.

>

>

>

> The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.

It is

> on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big

trouble

> for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /

indicating

> the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival

of

> the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is

with

> the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in

between can

> obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the

issue.

> If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks

her

> work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.

>

>

>

> Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their

ralation

> has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn

and

> Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.

>

>

>

> In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is

> occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems

> induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan

lord ) or

> due to lack of son more likely to be later.

>

>

>

> Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,

Cancer /

> Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi

from

> her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the

GK

> occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other

> palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner

> (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are

> associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She

needs to

> be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will

go on

> upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.

>

>

>

> Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I

am

> not sure due to heavy afflictions.

>

>

>

> Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.

>

>

>

> Regards.

>

[Guest guest]

Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.

 

from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking

about...

 

Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand

it .....

 

The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and

Jaimini...

 

Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....

 

had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages

and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest

U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..

 

Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for

road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab

System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara

and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....

 

Example....

 

Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai

Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....

 

 

What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...

 

Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies

of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those

provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the

effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of

Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....

 

Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits

deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and

without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can

be...

 

If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini...

this is it...

 

I challange any one who says it is not... ?????

 

Regards

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In , " Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj "

<nirbhar wrote:

>

> Respected Shobhana Ji,

> A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It

is

> a good example for the students like me to follow.

>

> " //The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has

just

> finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of

> Saturn. " //

> I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of

calculating

> the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.

> Regards

> Nirmal

> , " Shobhana "

> <shobhana_ms@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > Om Namo Narayana

> >

> >

> >

> > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the

horoscope.

> The

> > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just

> finished

> > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.

> >

> >

> >

> > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the

> > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus

Moon

> > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut

out

> come

> > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the

> lagna.

> > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign

with

> Mars

> > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would

> make her

> > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not

> appear to

> > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated

> > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.

> >

> >

> >

> > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and

lord

> of

> > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by

> exchange

> > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the

> > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish

realion

> with

> > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of

> 12th,

> > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,

> aspecting

> > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a

> > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong

trishadaya

> lord

> > Venus located in the fourth.

> >

> >

> >

> > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the

> lagna or

> > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,

> > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka

for

> life

> > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the

> > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility

> > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is

> mercury

> > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry

out

> > attemts on ones life.

> >

> >

> >

> > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by

> lord of

> > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest

to

> the

> > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu

> bhaga

> > in the Rasi.

> >

> >

> >

> > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3

chart.

> Lord

> > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is

Venus.

> >

> >

> >

> > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious

physical

> odds

> > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are

> troturing

> > the Moon.

> >

> >

> >

> > What is problem with this chart.

> >

> >

> >

> > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:

> >

> >

> >

> > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka

Jupiter

> in

> > the fifth house.

> >

> > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.

> >

> > Mercury under heavy affliction

> >

> > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.

> >

> >

> >

> > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,

children,

> > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.

> >

> >

> >

> > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.

> It is

> > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big

> trouble

> > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /

> indicating

> > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the

suvival

> of

> > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna

is

> with

> > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in

> between can

> > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the

> issue.

> > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks

> her

> > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.

> >

> >

> >

> > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their

> ralation

> > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn

> and

> > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.

> >

> >

> >

> > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is

> > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and

problems

> > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan

> lord ) or

> > due to lack of son more likely to be later.

> >

> >

> >

> > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,

> Cancer /

> > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi

> from

> > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns

the

> GK

> > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No

other

> > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and

partner

> > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are

> > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She

> needs to

> > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant)

will

> go on

> > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.

> >

> >

> >

> > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives

I

> am

> > not sure due to heavy afflictions.

> >

> >

> >

> > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.

> >

> >

> >

> > Regards.

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shobhanaji,

I am really happy that we have one follower of Lalkitab here. I myself respect this system very much. many dont know that this matches with the Hindu approach of remdial measures to perfectness.

I have Venus in my 9th House in Aries with a Leo lagna. What would be your comment on this ? As per Jamini the 9th for Leo Lagna is the badhaksthana.

What should be the dos and donts for me as per this placement ?

Venus incidentally is also the karakamsa Lagna for me, and also has Ketu in the 12th from it in the Navamsa citing Kaivalya s per Jamini.

In light of above please enrich us with yourknowledge.

best regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "Shobhana" <shobhana_ms wrote:>> Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.> > from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking > about...> > Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand > it .....> > The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and > Jaimini...> > Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....> > had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages > and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest > U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..> > Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for > road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab > System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara > and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....> > Example....> > Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai> Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....> > > What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...> > Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies > of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those > provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the > effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of > Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....> > Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits > deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and > without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can > be...> > If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini... > this is it...> > I challange any one who says it is not... ?????> > Regards> > > > > > > > In , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj" > nirbhar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Shobhana Ji,> > A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It > is > > a good example for the students like me to follow.> > > > "//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has > just > > finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of > > Saturn."//> > I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of > calculating > > the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.> > Regards> > Nirmal> > , "Shobhana" > > <shobhana_ms@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the > horoscope. > > The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just > > finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus > Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut > out > > come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the > > lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign > with > > Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would > > make her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not > > appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and > lord > > of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by > > exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish > realion > > with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of > > 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, > > aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong > trishadaya > > lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the > > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka > for > > life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is > > mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry > out> > > attemts on ones life.> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by > > lord of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest > to > > the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu > > bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 > chart. > > Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is > Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious > physical > > odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are > > troturing> > > the Moon.> > > > > > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka > Jupiter > > in> > > the fifth house.> > > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, > children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > > > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. > > It is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big > > trouble > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / > > indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the > suvival > > of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna > is > > with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in > > between can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the > > issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks > > her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their > > ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn > > and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and > problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan > > lord ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, > > Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi > > from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns > the > > GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No > other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and > partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She > > needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) > will > > go on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives > I > > am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shobhanaji,

I am really happy that we have one follower of Lalkitab here. I myself respect this system very much. many dont know that this matches with the Hindu approach of remdial measures to perfectness.

I have Venus in my 9th House in Aries with a Leo lagna. What would be your comment on this ? As per Jamini the 9th for Leo Lagna is the badhaksthana.

What should be the dos and donts for me as per this placement ?

Venus incidentally is also the karakamsa Lagna for me, and also has Ketu in the 12th from it in the Navamsa citing Kaivalya s per Jamini.

In light of above please enrich us with yourknowledge.

best regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "Shobhana" <shobhana_ms wrote:>> Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.> > from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking > about...> > Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand > it .....> > The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and > Jaimini...> > Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....> > had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages > and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest > U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..> > Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for > road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab > System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara > and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....> > Example....> > Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai> Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....> > > What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...> > Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies > of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those > provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the > effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of > Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....> > Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits > deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and > without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can > be...> > If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini... > this is it...> > I challange any one who says it is not... ?????> > Regards> > > > > > > > In , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj" > nirbhar@ wrote:> >> > Respected Shobhana Ji,> > A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It > is > > a good example for the students like me to follow.> > > > "//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has > just > > finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of > > Saturn."//> > I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of > calculating > > the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.> > Regards> > Nirmal> > , "Shobhana" > > <shobhana_ms@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the > horoscope. > > The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just > > finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus > Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut > out > > come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the > > lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign > with > > Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would > > make her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not > > appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and > lord > > of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by > > exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish > realion > > with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of > > 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, > > aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong > trishadaya > > lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the > > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka > for > > life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is > > mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry > out> > > attemts on ones life.> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by > > lord of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest > to > > the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu > > bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 > chart. > > Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is > Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious > physical > > odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are > > troturing> > > the Moon.> > > > > > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka > Jupiter > > in> > > the fifth house.> > > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, > children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > > > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. > > It is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big > > trouble > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / > > indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the > suvival > > of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna > is > > with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in > > between can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the > > issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks > > her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their > > ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn > > and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and > problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan > > lord ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, > > Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi > > from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns > the > > GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No > other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and > partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She > > needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) > will > > go on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives > I > > am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shobhanaji,

If I may add further, the dispositor of Venus, who is Mars ( Being lord of Aries), is also placed in conjunction with the Fixed star 'Regulas' known as the Mighty one in Western astrology, corresponding to Magha as per Indian Nakshatra system. In magha too, the same effects are given, The Royal seat, throne etc. please let me have your comments.

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shobhanaji,> > I am really happy that we have one follower of Lalkitab here. I myself> respect this system very much. many dont know that this matches with the> Hindu approach of remdial measures to perfectness.> > I have Venus in my 9th House in Aries with a Leo lagna. What would be> your comment on this ? As per Jamini the 9th for Leo Lagna is the> badhaksthana.> > What should be the dos and donts for me as per this placement ?> > Venus incidentally is also the karakamsa Lagna for me, and also has Ketu> in the 12th from it in the Navamsa citing Kaivalya s per Jamini.> > In light of above please enrich us with yourknowledge.> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "Shobhana"> shobhana_ms@ wrote:> >> > Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.> >> > from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking> > about...> >> > Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand> > it .....> >> > The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and> > Jaimini...> >> > Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....> >> > had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages> > and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest> > U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..> >> > Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for> > road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab> > System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara> > and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....> >> > Example....> >> > Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai> > Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....> >> >> > What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...> >> > Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies> > of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those> > provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the> > effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of> > Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....> >> > Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits> > deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and> > without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can> > be...> >> > If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini...> > this is it...> >> > I challange any one who says it is not... ?????> >> > Regards> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"> > nirbhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Shobhana Ji,> > > A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It> > is> > > a good example for the students like me to follow.> > >> > > "//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has> > just> > > finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of> > > Saturn."//> > > I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of> > calculating> > > the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.> > > Regards> > > Nirmal> > > , "Shobhana"> > > <shobhana_ms@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the> > horoscope.> > > The> > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> > > finished> > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus> > Moon> > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut> > out> > > come> > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> > > lagna.> > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign> > with> > > Mars> > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would> > > make her> > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> > > appear to> > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and> > lord> > > of> > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> > > exchange> > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish> > realion> > > with> > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> > > 12th,> > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> > > aspecting> > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong> > trishadaya> > > lord> > > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > > lagna or> > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka> > for> > > life> > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> > > mercury> > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry> > out> > > > attemts on ones life.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by> > > lord of> > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest> > to> > > the> > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> > > bhaga> > > > in the Rasi.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3> > chart.> > > Lord> > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is> > Venus.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious> > physical> > > odds> > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> > > troturing> > > > the Moon.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka> > Jupiter> > > in> > > > the fifth house.> > > >> > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > >> > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > >> > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,> > children,> > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.> > > It is> > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> > > trouble> > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> > > indicating> > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the> > suvival> > > of> > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna> > is> > > with> > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in> > > between can> > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> > > issue.> > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> > > her> > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> > > ralation> > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> > > and> > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and> > problems> > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan> > > lord ) or> > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> > > Cancer /> > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> > > from> > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns> > the> > > GK> > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No> > other> > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and> > partner> > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> > > needs to> > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant)> > will> > > go on> > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives> > I> > > am> > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Shobhanaji,

Just I will give you the position of all my planets in my chart.

 

Mars and Rahu in Leo. ( 1st House )

Moon in Sagittarius ( 5th House )

Jupiter and Saturn in capricorn ( 6th House )

Venus in Aries ( 9th )

Sun and Mercury in Gemini ( 11th )

 

Now as per Lal kitab -

Venus in 9th - I must not give any free services ?

Sun and Mer in 11th - I must not drink ?

Jup and Sat in 6th - I am allowed to do any thing at night ,

and Saturn will not touch me ? Is the all above true ?

Then if I drink at night, does it mean

that I will not be doing a 'paap karma ' ?

 

Pl explain.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

 

, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Shobhanaji,> > I am really happy that we have one follower of Lalkitab here. I myself> respect this system very much. many dont know that this matches with the> Hindu approach of remdial measures to perfectness.> > I have Venus in my 9th House in Aries with a Leo lagna. What would be> your comment on this ? As per Jamini the 9th for Leo Lagna is the> badhaksthana.> > What should be the dos and donts for me as per this placement ?> > Venus incidentally is also the karakamsa Lagna for me, and also has Ketu> in the 12th from it in the Navamsa citing Kaivalya s per Jamini.> > In light of above please enrich us with yourknowledge.> > best regards,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > , "Shobhana"> shobhana_ms@ wrote:> >> > Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.> >> > from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking> > about...> >> > Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand> > it .....> >> > The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and> > Jaimini...> >> > Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....> >> > had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages> > and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest> > U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..> >> > Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for> > road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab> > System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara> > and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....> >> > Example....> >> > Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai> > Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....> >> >> > What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...> >> > Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies> > of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those> > provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the> > effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of> > Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....> >> > Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits> > deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and> > without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can> > be...> >> > If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini...> > this is it...> >> > I challange any one who says it is not... ?????> >> > Regards> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > In , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj"> > nirbhar@ wrote:> > >> > > Respected Shobhana Ji,> > > A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It> > is> > > a good example for the students like me to follow.> > >> > > "//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has> > just> > > finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of> > > Saturn."//> > > I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of> > calculating> > > the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.> > > Regards> > > Nirmal> > > , "Shobhana"> > > <shobhana_ms@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the> > horoscope.> > > The> > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> > > finished> > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus> > Moon> > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut> > out> > > come> > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> > > lagna.> > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign> > with> > > Mars> > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would> > > make her> > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> > > appear to> > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and> > lord> > > of> > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> > > exchange> > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish> > realion> > > with> > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> > > 12th,> > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> > > aspecting> > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong> > trishadaya> > > lord> > > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > > lagna or> > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka> > for> > > life> > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> > > mercury> > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry> > out> > > > attemts on ones life.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by> > > lord of> > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest> > to> > > the> > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> > > bhaga> > > > in the Rasi.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3> > chart.> > > Lord> > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is> > Venus.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious> > physical> > > odds> > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> > > troturing> > > > the Moon.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka> > Jupiter> > > in> > > > the fifth house.> > > >> > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > >> > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > >> > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,> > children,> > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.> > > It is> > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> > > trouble> > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> > > indicating> > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the> > suvival> > > of> > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna> > is> > > with> > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in> > > between can> > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> > > issue.> > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> > > her> > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> > > ralation> > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> > > and> > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and> > problems> > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan> > > lord ) or> > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> > > Cancer /> > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> > > from> > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns> > the> > > GK> > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No> > other> > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and> > partner> > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> > > needs to> > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant)> > will> > > go on> > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives> > I> > > am> > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > Regards.> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Sreenadhji,

 

thanks for the feedback and the readings were in line is a welcome one, i

hope the member benefits from the messages here as all have done well on

this topic showing the vast depth our great subject has any path u fol;low

u will still reach there. as a divine subject its interpreters will have the

Almighty's grace to guide and help people.our knowledge is a mere tool in

his hands

 

i want to ask u if the women in question had any adverse, troubled childhood

any abuse, mentally, physically in some form or other, sometimes girls don't

share them and end up with frigidity this also will need attention by

counseling, prayers, meditation

 

best wishes

 

prashant

 

 

 

On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 9:26 AM, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

> Dear Prashant ji,

> Thanks for the reading. Let me list the major points you hinted at along

> with my feedback -

> //> well there r too many aflicting factors on Chandra Kuja'ss from the 7th

> in a

> > enemy sign makes it harder too. sani's aspect from the 8th adds more

> unsaid

> > reasons-*she has both physical and mental reasons for this*//

> This is true.

> //> Marriage is close to break up a v low point must have set in from

> 27-2-07

> > and this will go on till 4-6-09 guru-budha] by which time another attempt

> > can also take place//

> Thanks for the warning.

> //> prayers to Hanuman, siva will help her//

> Thanks for this remedy suggested.

> //> we wish tthe marital dischord settls amicably-wishful thinking though

> but

> > its trauma will be too heavy so better it passes to the breaking point in

> > her own interest

> > till the marriage is on please do the prayers and also seek professional

> > counselling for her rehabilitation, yoga, pranayama will also help

> > give her some freshness -by a holiday where wever she wants to go in good

> > company//

> Thanks for the guidance.

> Comment: Overall it seems to be a good, to the point, reading. Even

> though I don't know how the querrent understands or reacts to this

> (Since she is a member of this group, I request her to directly participate

> in the discussion for her benefit) - but this is my observation on your

> reading based on the info I have.

> Love and regards,

> Sreenadh

>

>

> , " astro desk "

> <astro.prashantkumar wrote:

> >

> > Sreenadh.

> >

> > well there r too many aflicting factors on Chandra Kuja'ss from the 7th

> in a

> > enemy sign makes it harder too. sani's aspect from the 8th adds more

> unsaid

> > reasons-she has both physical and mental reasons for this

> >

> > Marriage is close to break up a v low point must have set in from 27-2-07

> > and this will go on till 4-6-09 guru-budha] by which time another attempt

> > can also take place

> >

> > sade saat that is on now is approaching its peak so needs moral support

> and

> > understanding from family, friends fortunately the peak is a lot better

> than

> > pre-peak as in simha sani has 2/23 Bindhius in SAV

> >

> > budha bukthi now on is in Mrityu Bhaga too as 7th lord has a role both in

> > marakatwa and also mmarital woes

> >

> > budhas company is source of marital woes

> >

> > the Kendras occupation makes the lognevity aspect weaker

> >

> > prayers to Hanuman, siva will help her

> >

> > I use Raman's ayanamsa so dasa, vargas, dates will differ

> >

> > I've never used another so will not have to take cover under this if it

> > doesnt happen.

> >

> > we wish tthe marital dischord settls amicably-wishful thinking though but

> > its trauma will be too heavy so better it passes to the breaking point in

> > her own interest

> >

> > till the marriage is on please do the prayers and also seek professional

> > counselling for her rehabilitation, yoga, pranayama will also help

> > give her some freshness -by a holiday where wever she wants to go in good

> > company

> >

> > best wishes

> >

> > Prashant

> >

> >

> >

> > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:

> >

> > > Dear All,

> > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on 9/14/08) -

> > > ======

> > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter

> who

> > > has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you kindly

> permit I

> > > would like our Group members to analyse this as a Discussion matter and

> find

> > > remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy and aims I will

> > > understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her and her

> husband " s

> > > birth data to you.//

> > > ======

> > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's

> > > husband. She send the following info to me -

> > > ======

> > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);

> > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)

> > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours; POB--BOMBAY

> > > (MUMBAI)//

> > > ======

> > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above

> > > situation as requested by the qurrent.

> > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole issue,

> > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as names.

> I

> > > will reveal them during discussion, if required.

> > > Love and regards,

> > > Sreenadh

> > >

> > >

> >

>

>

[Guest guest]

Respected Shobhana Ji,I am a kid as far as Lalkitab is concerned. There is not any bad intention of mine in asking the question. I try to remove your doubts about this system as far asmy little knowledge is concerned'//Lal Kitab system is fairly advanced and many people do not understand it //"I agree to the extent that the most people donot understand it but this is fairly simple to understandprovided be read in original form. Reading Translations/transliterations may not prove much fruitful."//The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and Jaimini..."//My opinion is different."// had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it...."//My opinion is different. I feel it is "Hawaii Khyaal"of most of the astrologers.I dont think your sugestion suits me. Just informal understanding of astronomy and traditional astrology serve the purpose."//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn."//There is no mention of use of this age in the interpretit ion. what do the mercury age and saturn age did or do to the native. Before asking this question i was in the opinion that this age factor might be given in some other system and it might be useful for me if to know that system. From your mail I can judge you have not well

versed with Lalkitab. Had you be, then you have not dropped Lalkitab in your interpretition by

just mentioning the above rule."//If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini.this is it..."//My opinion is different. There is not an iota of Jamini in this system. This system is unique in itself. Knowledge of Palmistry and Samudrik is and additional beneficial in understanding this science.Dear Shobhana Ji, I am a student of astrology. I always gain too much from your discussions. In my opinion every system of astrology is perfact in itself. In interpretions one should try to stick to analyze with one system only and apply rules. Using multiple system in one interpretitions may cause confusions in the mind of students like me. Thanks for replying.RegardsNirmal , "Shobhana" <shobhana_ms wrote:>> Dear NK bhardwaj Ji.> > from you posts I fully understand what you are studying and talking > about...> > Lala Kitab sytem is fairly advanced and many people do not understand > it .....> > The reson is is their lack of understanding of Parashara and > Jaimini...> > Lala Kitaab is the finest amalgamation of the two and some others....> > had U understood the basics U would have never asked about basic ages > and period of planets... If you are not understanding it , I suggest > U abondon it and refresh your fundamantals of Parashara and Jaimini..> > Lala Kitaab can be understood only then...the system is not meant for > road side astrologers as being practiced today by many.. Lal Kitaab > System is very advanced.....Only people have a mastery over Parasara > and Jaimini both can take a full grip of it....> > Example....> > Graha Gyaraha jo ghar men Hoye. Taasir shani wo hota hai> Asar magar Ghar Usmen Jaata Bhrihaspati Jahan Jo hota Hai....> > > What a beautifull and fundamantal principles...> > Planets in the eleventh house have or despaly the natural tendencies > of the Saturn as per the placement of Saturn in the horoscope...those > provide results as per the palacement of Saturn ...however the > effects are to be considred in the house or for the Karakatwa of > Jupiter or as per palcement of Jupiter....> > Nothing to beat such unfalaible principles... Parashari pundits > deride that and make a of mockery of it without understanding it and > without realisisng how potent astrological weapon this Lal Kitab can > be...> > If there is a very fine amalgamation of Lal Kitaab and Jaimini... > this is it...> > I challange any one who says it is not... ?????> > Regards> > > > > > > > In , "Nirmal Kumar Bhardwaj" > <nirbhar@> wrote:> >> > Respected Shobhana Ji,> > A nice and comprehensive analysis of the native's life indeed. It > is > > a good example for the students like me to follow.> > > > "//The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has > just > > finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of > > Saturn."//> > I feel oblige if some light be thrown upon the method of > calculating > > the age factor with respect to Mercury & Saturn.> > Regards> > Nirmal> > , "Shobhana" > > <shobhana_ms@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the > horoscope. > > The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just > > finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > > > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus > Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut > out > > come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the > > lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign > with > > Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would > > make her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not > > appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and > lord > > of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by > > exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish > realion > > with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of > > 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, > > aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong > trishadaya > > lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the > > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka > for > > life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is > > mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry > out> > > attemts on ones life.> > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by > > lord of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest > to > > the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu > > bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > > > > > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 > chart. > > Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is > Venus.> > > > > > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious > physical > > odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are > > troturing> > > the Moon.> > > > > > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka > Jupiter > > in> > > the fifth house.> > > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, > children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > > > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. > > It is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big > > trouble > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / > > indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the > suvival > > of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna > is > > with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in > > between can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the > > issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks > > her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their > > ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn > > and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and > problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan > > lord ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, > > Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi > > from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns > the > > GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No > other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and > partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She > > needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) > will > > go on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives > I > > am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > > > > > > > > > Regards.> > >> >>