Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Sreenadh. well there r too many aflicting factors on Chandra Kuja'ss from the 7th in a enemy sign makes it harder too. sani's aspect from the 8th adds more unsaid reasons-she has both physical and mental reasons for this Marriage is close to break up a v low point must have set in from 27-2-07 and this will go on till 4-6-09 guru-budha] by which time another attempt can also take place sade saat that is on now is approaching its peak so needs moral support and understanding from family, friends fortunately the peak is a lot better than pre-peak as in simha sani has 2/23 Bindhius in SAV budha bukthi now on is in Mrityu Bhaga too as 7th lord has a role both in marakatwa and also mmarital woes budhas company is source of marital woes the Kendras occupation makes the lognevity aspect weaker prayers to Hanuman, siva will help her I use Raman's ayanamsa so dasa, vargas, dates will differ I've never used another so will not have to take cover under this if it doesnt happen. we wish tthe marital dischord settls amicably-wishful thinking though but its trauma will be too heavy so better it passes to the breaking point in her own interest till the marriage is on please do the prayers and also seek professional counselling for her rehabilitation, yoga, pranayama will also help give her some freshness -by a holiday where wever she wants to go in good company best wishes Prashant On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear All, > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on 9/14/08) - > ====== > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter who > has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you kindly permit I > would like our Group members to analyse this as a Discussion matter and find > remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy and aims I will > understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her and her husband " s > birth data to you.// > ====== > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's > husband. She send the following info to me - > ====== > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M); > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI) > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours; POB--BOMBAY > (MUMBAI)// > ====== > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above > situation as requested by the qurrent. > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole issue, > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as names. I > will reveal them during discussion, if required. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 HARE RAMA KRISHNA Dear sreenadh ji This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house has mars . also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana , moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for 4th house also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there is exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas already showing and afflcting marriage . dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show sickness too ) . so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house ( mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri dosha effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is heavily afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is showing in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth ) even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and gulika in 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this problems so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am concluding here . i dont know this lady has any kids so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght too recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and childbirth or abortions . feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya is recommended . gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed .even mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru badaka doshas too ) in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along with some venusian effects also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if they dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies . i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to go further . dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th L frm lagna . actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is better . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear All,> Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on 9/14/08)> -> ======> //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter> who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you kindly> permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a Discussion> matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy and> aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her and> her husband"s birth data to you.//> ======> I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's> husband. She send the following info to me -> ======> //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours; POB--BOMBAY> (MUMBAI)//> ======> Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> situation as requested by the qurrent.> Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole issue,> which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as names.> I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 Dear Sreenaadha Ji, Om Namo Narayana With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn. From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna. Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated madhyamaayu of lower bracket. Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th, it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord Venus located in the fourth. For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the lagna or minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self, subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out attemts on ones life. Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga in the Rasi. The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus. One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing the Moon. What is problem with this chart. The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in the fifth house. Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. Mercury under heavy affliction And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children, income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty. The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue. If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue. Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana. In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or due to lack of son more likely to be later. Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer / Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious. Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am not sure due to heavy afflictions. Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 15, 2008 Report Share Posted September 15, 2008 ~Namaste~ Dear Shobhana ji, Dear All, This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the conclusions are the same. What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this case she has an agresivity Karma. She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity. Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus). Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous planet is transiting her 12th house. Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to attempt to suicide. I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed. I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation. I hope it helps P.S. If members are interested in another cases like this, but which finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB. Warm Regards, Liana , " Shobhana " <shobhana_ms wrote: > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji, > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn. > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna. > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated > madhyamaayu of lower bracket. > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th, > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord > Venus located in the fourth. > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the lagna or > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self, > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out > attemts on ones life. > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga > in the Rasi. > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus. > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing > the Moon. > > > > What is problem with this chart. > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in > the fifth house. > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. > > Mercury under heavy affliction > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children, > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty. > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue. > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue. > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana. > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or > due to lack of son more likely to be later. > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer / > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious. > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am > not sure due to heavy afflictions. > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only. > > > > Regards. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Prashant ji, Thanks for the reading. Let me list the major points you hinted at along with my feedback -//> well there r too many aflicting factors on Chandra Kuja'ss from the 7th in a> enemy sign makes it harder too. sani's aspect from the 8th adds more unsaid> reasons-she has both physical and mental reasons for this// This is true. //> Marriage is close to break up a v low point must have set in from 27-2-07> and this will go on till 4-6-09 guru-budha] by which time another attempt> can also take place// Thanks for the warning. //> prayers to Hanuman, siva will help her// Thanks for this remedy suggested. //> we wish tthe marital dischord settls amicably-wishful thinking though but> its trauma will be too heavy so better it passes to the breaking point in> her own interest> till the marriage is on please do the prayers and also seek professional> counselling for her rehabilitation, yoga, pranayama will also help> give her some freshness -by a holiday where wever she wants to go in good> company// Thanks for the guidance. Comment: Overall it seems to be a good, to the point, reading. Even though I don't know how the querrent understands or reacts to this (Since she is a member of this group, I request her to directly participate in the discussion for her benefit) - but this is my observation on your reading based on the info I have. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "astro desk" <astro.prashantkumar wrote:>> Sreenadh.> > well there r too many aflicting factors on Chandra Kuja'ss from the 7th in a> enemy sign makes it harder too. sani's aspect from the 8th adds more unsaid> reasons-she has both physical and mental reasons for this> > Marriage is close to break up a v low point must have set in from 27-2-07> and this will go on till 4-6-09 guru-budha] by which time another attempt> can also take place> > sade saat that is on now is approaching its peak so needs moral support and> understanding from family, friends fortunately the peak is a lot better than> pre-peak as in simha sani has 2/23 Bindhius in SAV> > budha bukthi now on is in Mrityu Bhaga too as 7th lord has a role both in> marakatwa and also mmarital woes> > budhas company is source of marital woes> > the Kendras occupation makes the lognevity aspect weaker> > prayers to Hanuman, siva will help her> > I use Raman's ayanamsa so dasa, vargas, dates will differ> > I've never used another so will not have to take cover under this if it> doesnt happen.> > we wish tthe marital dischord settls amicably-wishful thinking though but> its trauma will be too heavy so better it passes to the breaking point in> her own interest> > till the marriage is on please do the prayers and also seek professional> counselling for her rehabilitation, yoga, pranayama will also help> give her some freshness -by a holiday where wever she wants to go in good> company> > best wishes> > Prashant> > > > On Mon, Sep 15, 2008 at 9:54 PM, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > > Dear All,> > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on 9/14/08) -> > ======> > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter who> > has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you kindly permit I> > would like our Group members to analyse this as a Discussion matter and find> > remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy and aims I will> > understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her and her husband"s> > birth data to you.//> > ======> > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's> > husband. She send the following info to me -> > ======> > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours; POB--BOMBAY> > (MUMBAI)//> > ======> > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole issue,> > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as names. I> > will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house has> mars .// True - you are right. //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for 4th> house// True - you are right.//> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there is> exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas already> showing and afflcting marriage .// Agreed. //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana> Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> sickness too ) .// Right you are. //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house (> mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri dosha> effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is heavily> afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is showing> in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and gulika in> 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> problems> so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> concluding here .> i dont know this lady has any kids// You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet. //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any> mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght too> recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> childbirth or abortions .> feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya is> recommended .> gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed .even> mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> badaka doshas too )// Thanks for the remedies suggested. //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> with some venusian effects> also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if they> dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier record.//> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to go> further .// Hope my feedback helps. //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too> ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th L> frm lagna .> actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is better . // OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to her. Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading. Excellent. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > Dear sreenadh ji> > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house has> mars .> > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited> > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana ,> > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for 4th> house> > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there is> exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas already> showing and afflcting marriage .> > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana> Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> sickness too ) .> > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house (> mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri dosha> effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is heavily> afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is showing> in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and gulika in> 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> problems> > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> concluding here .> > i dont know this lady has any kids> > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any> mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght too> recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> childbirth or abortions .> > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya is> recommended .> > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed .even> mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> badaka doshas too )> > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> with some venusian effects> > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if they> dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .> > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to go> further .> > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too> ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th L> frm lagna .> > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is better .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear All,> > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on 9/14/08)> > -> > ======> > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter> > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you kindly> > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a Discussion> > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy> and> > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her> and> > her husband"s birth data to you.//> > ======> > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's> > husband. She send the following info to me -> > ======> > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours; POB--BOMBAY> > (MUMBAI)//> > ======> > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole issue,> > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as> names.> > I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sobhana ji, Thanks for the systematic reading that is much helpful to the students of astrology. It was excellent. Let me provide the feedback. //From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu.// Thanks for this info. //What is problem with this chart. The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in the fifth house. Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. Mercury under heavy affliction And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children, income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.// You are absolutly right and to the point. Welldone!//The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue. If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.// Thanks for the excellent reading and guidance. By the way, she is not pregnent right now. //In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or due to lack of son more likely to be later.// Right your are.//Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer / Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.// Thanks for the warning. //Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am not sure due to heavy afflictions.//OK. //Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.// If the querrent requests, I will provide you mail id. Comment: It was an excellent and systematic reading (especially much helpful to the beginners - due to the inherent systematic approach). Well done. I am happy that well learned astros like Prashant ji, Sunil ji and Sobhana ji are present in this group. It is the presents of such practical astrologers that makes this group worthy. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "Shobhana" <shobhana_ms wrote: Dear Sreenaadha Ji, Om Namo Narayana With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn. From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna. Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated madhyamaayu of lower bracket. Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th, it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord Venus located in the fourth. For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the lagna or minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self, subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out attemts on ones life. Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga in the Rasi. The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus. One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing the Moon. What is problem with this chart. The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in the fifth house. Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. Mercury under heavy affliction And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children, income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty. The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue. If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue. Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana. In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or due to lack of son more likely to be later. Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer / Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious. Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am not sure due to heavy afflictions. Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only. Regards. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Liana ji, //> What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> case she has an agresivity Karma. > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> transiting her 8th house in Western system).// Right you are. //> Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> attempt to suicide.// Thanks for the warning. //> I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.// Thanks for this bit of psychological guidance. Comment: Well done. Your readings help us much to compare both the western and the indian systems - pros and cons of both. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> ~Namaste~> Dear Shobhana ji,> Dear All,> > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some> members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because> i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> conclusions are the same.> What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> case she has an agresivity Karma. > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> planet is transiting her 12th house. > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> attempt to suicide.> > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> > I hope it helps> > P.S.> > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> Warm Regards,> > Liana> > > > > , "Shobhana"> shobhana_ms@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The> > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished> > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon> > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come> > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna.> > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars> > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her> > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to> > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of> > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange> > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with> > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th,> > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting> > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord> > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> lagna or> > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life> > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury> > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out> > attemts on ones life.> > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of> > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the> > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga> > in the Rasi.> > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord> > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.> > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds> > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing> > the Moon.> > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in> > the fifth house.> > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,> > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is> > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating> > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of> > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with> > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can> > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue.> > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her> > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation> > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and> > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems> > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or> > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer /> > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from> > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK> > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other> > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner> > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to> > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on> > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am> > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > > > > > Regards.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Liana It will be a great help in understanding of this phenomenon if you can post some of the details of such cases. Also if possible please indicate the timing of the end, so that beginners like me can have a look at them to understand the concept. Regards Samir On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:19 AM, blulisan <blulisan wrote: > ~Namaste~ > Dear Shobhana ji, > Dear All, > > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the > conclusions are the same. > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this > case she has an agresivity Karma. > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity. > > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus). > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous > planet is transiting her 12th house. > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to > attempt to suicide. > > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed. > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation. > > I hope it helps > > P.S. > > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB. > Warm Regards, > > Liana > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > " Shobhana " > > <shobhana_ms wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji, > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn. > > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna. > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket. > > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th, > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord > > Venus located in the fourth. > > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the > lagna or > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self, > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out > > attemts on ones life. > > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga > > in the Rasi. > > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus. > > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing > > the Moon. > > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart. > > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: > > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in > > the fifth house. > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. > > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children, > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty. > > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue. > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue. > > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or > > due to lack of son more likely to be later. > > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer / > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious. > > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am > > not sure due to heavy afflictions. > > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only. > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sreenadh ji Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked while trying to giv feed back . in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> with some venusian effects> also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if they> dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier record. Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) ) also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too . so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are not protecting the person and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of romance and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in 7th ( in parivartan too . also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th House ) . so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to come out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord involved with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow approach is better than expecting some miracles . (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata --so this knowledge is imp ) other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna suggestions ) hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my in ability to type in english . hope this helps regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp ( so pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm many persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and those has blf in u . , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house has> > mars .//> True - you are right.> //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for 4th> > house//> True - you are right.> //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there> is> > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas already> > showing and afflcting marriage .//> Agreed.> //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana> > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > sickness too ) .//> Right you are.> //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house (> > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri dosha> > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> heavily> > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> showing> > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and gulika> in> > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > problems> > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> > concluding here .> > i dont know this lady has any kids//> You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet.> //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any> > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght too> > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > childbirth or abortions .> > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya> is> > recommended .> > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> .even> > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > badaka doshas too )//> Thanks for the remedies suggested.> //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > with some venusian effects> > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> they> > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> record.> //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to> go> > further .//> Hope my feedback helps.> //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too> > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th L> > frm lagna .> > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is better> . //> OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to> her.> > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading.> Excellent.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> >> > Dear sreenadh ji> >> > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house has> > mars .> >> > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited> >> > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana ,> >> > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for 4th> > house> >> > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there> is> > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas already> > showing and afflcting marriage .> >> > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana> > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > sickness too ) .> >> > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house (> > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri dosha> > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> heavily> > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> showing> > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> >> > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and gulika> in> > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > problems> >> > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> > concluding here .> >> > i dont know this lady has any kids> >> > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any> > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght too> > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > childbirth or abortions .> >> > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya> is> > recommended .> >> > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> .even> > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > badaka doshas too )> >> >> >> > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > with some venusian effects> >> >> >> > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> they> > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .> >> > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to go> > further .> >> > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too> > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th L> > frm lagna .> >> > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is better> .> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear All,> > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on> 9/14/08)> > > -> > > ======> > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder daughter> > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you> kindly> > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a> Discussion> > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group philosophy> > and> > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give her> > and> > > her husband"s birth data to you.//> > > ======> > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and daughter's> > > husband. She send the following info to me -> > > ======> > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours;> POB--BOMBAY> > > (MUMBAI)//> > > ======> > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole> issue,> > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as> > names.> > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, That was informative. Let me share the feed back. // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl> badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by> 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so> here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or> other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations> ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn> aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha> .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or> some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are> not protecting the person// OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here are some words quoted from her mother's mail.====I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will protect the confidentiality.She is blessed with great intellect and photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was always somewhat adamant and quarrelsome.We had finalised her marriage with a C A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our Son in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003 or so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband is not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in a negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations with most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has been able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong in her upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But above all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone around her who understands this tolerates her. We have approached professional Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the last 4 or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b admitted for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday that is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one month and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job. ====//> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of > romance> and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too> ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in> 7th ( in parivartan too .> also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with> santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness> ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with> sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th > House ).> so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for> mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help> will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon>too and both cases Lagna Lord involved> with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> approach is better than expecting some miracles .// Thanks fro the valuable guidance. //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata --so this knowledge is imp )// The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala. Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sreenadh ji> > Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked while> trying to giv feed back .> > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > with some venusian effects> > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> they> > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> record.> > > Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl> badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by> 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so> here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or> other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> > > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations> ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn> aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha> .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or> some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are> not protecting the person> > > > and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja or> prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp too> .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of romance> and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too> ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in> 7th ( in parivartan too .> > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with> santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness> ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for 5th> House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with> sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th House )> .> > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for> mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all ayurvedic> ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a combined> treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to come> out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon .mars> .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the dasa> is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord involved> with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> approach is better than expecting some miracles .> > (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata> --so this knowledge is imp )> > other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna suggestions> )> > > > hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my in> ability to type in english .> > hope this helps> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp ( so> pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would> like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm many> persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and> those has blf in u .> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house> has> > > mars .//> > True - you are right.> > //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for> 4th> > > house//> > True - you are right.> > //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and> there> > is> > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> already> > > showing and afflcting marriage .//> > Agreed.> > //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd> drekkana> > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > sickness too ) .//> > Right you are.> > //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house> (> > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> dosha> > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > heavily> > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > showing> > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> gulika> > in> > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > > problems> > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> > > concluding here .> > > i dont know this lady has any kids//> > You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet.> > //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for> any> > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght> too> > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > > childbirth or abortions .> > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya> > is> > > recommended .> > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> > .even> > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > > badaka doshas too )//> > Thanks for the remedies suggested.> > //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha> along> > > with some venusian effects> > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > they> > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> > record.> > //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to> > go> > > further .//> > Hope my feedback helps.> > //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha> too> > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th> L> > > frm lagna .> > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> better> > . //> > OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to> > her.> >> > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading.> > Excellent.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > >> > > Dear sreenadh ji> > >> > > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house> has> > > mars .> > >> > > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited> > >> > > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana ,> > >> > > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for> 4th> > > house> > >> > > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there> > is> > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> already> > > showing and afflcting marriage .> > >> > > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana> > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > sickness too ) .> > >> > > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house (> > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> dosha> > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > heavily> > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > showing> > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > >> > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> gulika> > in> > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > > problems> > >> > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am> > > concluding here .> > >> > > i dont know this lady has any kids> > >> > > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any> > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght> too> > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > > childbirth or abortions .> > >> > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya> > is> > > recommended .> > >> > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> > .even> > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > > badaka doshas too )> > >> > >> > >> > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > > with some venusian effects> > >> > >> > >> > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > they> > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .> > >> > > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to> go> > > further .> > >> > > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too> > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th> L> > > frm lagna .> > >> > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> better> > .> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on> > 9/14/08)> > > > -> > > > ======> > > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder> daughter> > > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you> > kindly> > > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a> > Discussion> > > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group> philosophy> > > and> > > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give> her> > > and> > > > her husband"s birth data to you.//> > > > ======> > > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and> daughter's> > > > husband. She send the following info to me -> > > > ======> > > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours;> > POB--BOMBAY> > > > (MUMBAI)//> > > > ======> > > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > > > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole> > issue,> > > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as> > > names.> > > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sreenadh ji many many thanks for feed back . Her marriage which can defy some way existing norms of society is viscible in her chart ( tho not uncommon this days but i am an astrologer so i hav to use this words only as astrology is kalathitha ( for all ages ) . Now i suggest her to take some ashtavaidya( traditional ayurvedic families of kerala -in trichur there is one ) treatment for strnghtening mental faculties first ,then if fathers is nampoothiri or kerala brahmin then they shud strt the monthly pakka nal archana in her name ( nakshtra poojas ) and if any pitri karamas are held up for reasons they shud complete it in family .And neechanna danam etc shud b observed .then they can go with medical advice too . so this kind of 3 fold action along with frequent visit to chottanikara devi temple shud solve the problems .First strt with pitri santhi karmas ,then if they ask ozhivu ( efficacy of remedies and other things ) u or me can help them ,one by one i hope this is enough i pray to mother devine to protect her . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> That was informative. Let me share the feed back.> // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl> > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected> by> > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so> > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or> > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> >> > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental> aberrations> > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn> > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha> > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or> > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are> > not protecting the person//> OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here> are some words quoted from her mother's mail.> ====> I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will> protect the confidentiality.She is blessed with great intellect and> photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was always> somewhat adamant and quarrelsome.We had finalised her marriage with a C> A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our Son> in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of> March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003 or> so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the> current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband is> not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in a> negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last> three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations with> most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has been> able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong in her> upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But above> all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone around> her who understands this tolerates her. We have approached professional> Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION> DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the last 4> or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b admitted> for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday that> is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one month> and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job.> ====> //> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own> > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha> is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana (> place of > romance> > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected> too> > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars> in> > 7th ( in parivartan too .> > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with> > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital> happiness> > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for> > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with> > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th> > House ).> > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for> > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all> > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then> > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help> > will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD> > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has> > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon> >too and both cases Lagna Lord involved> > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> > approach is better than expecting some miracles .//> Thanks fro the valuable guidance.> //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata> --so this knowledge is imp )//> The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala.> Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> >> > dear sreenadh ji> >> > Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked> while> > trying to giv feed back .> >> >> >> > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > > with some venusian effects> > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula> > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > they> > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> > record.> >> >> > Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna> spl> > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected> by> > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so> > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or> > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> >> >> >> > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental> aberrations> > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn> > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha> > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or> > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are> > not protecting the person> >> >> >> > and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja> or> > prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp too> > .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of romance> > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected> too> > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars> in> > 7th ( in parivartan too .> >> > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> >> > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with> > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital> happiness> > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for> 5th> > House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with> > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th House> )> > .> >> > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for> > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all> ayurvedic> > ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a combined> > treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to> come> > out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon .mars> > .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the dasa> > is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord> involved> > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> > approach is better than expecting some miracles .> >> > (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata> > --so this knowledge is imp )> >> > other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna> suggestions> > )> >> >> >> > hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my in> > ability to type in english .> >> > hope this helps> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp (> so> > pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would> > like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm> many> > persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and> > those has blf in u .> >> >> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house> > has> > > > mars .//> > > True - you are right.> > > //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for> > 4th> > > > house//> > > True - you are right.> > > //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and> > there> > > is> > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> > already> > > > showing and afflcting marriage .//> > > Agreed.> > > //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd> > drekkana> > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > > sickness too ) .//> > > Right you are.> > > //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th> house> > (> > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> > dosha> > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > > heavily> > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > > showing> > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> > gulika> > > in> > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > > > problems> > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i> am> > > > concluding here .> > > > i dont know this lady has any kids//> > > You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet.> > > //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for> > any> > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght> > too> > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > > > childbirth or abortions .> > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or> amavasya> > > is> > > > recommended .> > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> > > .even> > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > > > badaka doshas too )//> > > Thanks for the remedies suggested.> > > //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha> > along> > > > with some venusian effects> > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know> kula> > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > > they> > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> > > record.> > > //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading> to> > > go> > > > further .//> > > Hope my feedback helps.> > > //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha> > too> > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also> 6th> > L> > > > frm lagna .> > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> > better> > > . //> > > OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to> > > her.> > >> > > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading.> > > Excellent.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > , "sunil nair"> > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > >> > > > Dear sreenadh ji> > > >> > > > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house> > has> > > > mars .> > > >> > > > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited> > > >> > > > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana ,> > > >> > > > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for> > 4th> > > > house> > > >> > > > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and> there> > > is> > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> > already> > > > showing and afflcting marriage .> > > >> > > > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd> drekkana> > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > > sickness too ) .> > > >> > > > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house> (> > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> > dosha> > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > > heavily> > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > > showing> > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > > >> > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> > gulika> > > in> > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this> > > > problems> > > >> > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i> am> > > > concluding here .> > > >> > > > i dont know this lady has any kids> > > >> > > > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for> any> > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght> > too> > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and> > > > childbirth or abortions .> > > >> > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or> amavasya> > > is> > > > recommended .> > > >> > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed> > > .even> > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru> > > > badaka doshas too )> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha> along> > > > with some venusian effects> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know> kula> > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > > they> > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .> > > >> > > > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to> > go> > > > further .> > > >> > > > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha> too> > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also> 6th> > L> > > > frm lagna .> > > >> > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> > better> > > .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > >> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear All,> > > > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on> > > 9/14/08)> > > > > -> > > > > ======> > > > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder> > daughter> > > > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you> > > kindly> > > > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a> > > Discussion> > > > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group> > philosophy> > > > and> > > > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give> > her> > > > and> > > > > her husband"s birth data to you.//> > > > > ======> > > > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and> > daughter's> > > > > husband. She send the following info to me -> > > > > ======> > > > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > > > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > > > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours;> > > POB--BOMBAY> > > > > (MUMBAI)//> > > > > ======> > > > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > > > > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > > > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole> > > issue,> > > > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as> > > > names.> > > > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > Sreenadh> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Respected Sreenadh, Thanks for sharing the event. I shall be glad if you can share the time of prashan, date of prashana and place of prashana so that we can analyse the degrees of the planets also. --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Attempted suicide Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 11:11 AM Dear Sunil ji, That was informative. Let me share the feed back. // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) ) > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too . > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are > not protecting the person// OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here are some words quoted from her mother's mail. ==== I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will protect the confidentiality. She is blessed with great intellect and photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was always somewhat adamant and quarrelsome. We had finalised her marriage with a C A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our Son in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003 or so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband is not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in a negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations with most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has been able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong in her upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But above all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone around her who understands this tolerates her. We have approached professional Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the last 4 or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b admitted for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday that is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one month and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job. ==== //> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of > romance > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in > 7th ( in parivartan too . > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th > House ). > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help > will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon >too and both cases Lagna Lord involved > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow > approach is better than expecting some miracles .// Thanks fro the valuable guidance. //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata --so this knowledge is imp )// The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala. Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification. Love and regards, Sreenadh ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear sreenadh ji > > Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked while > trying to giv feed back . > > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along > > with some venusian effects > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > they > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier > record. > > > Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) ) > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too . > > > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are > not protecting the person > > > > and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja or > prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp too > .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of romance > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in > 7th ( in parivartan too . > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for 5th > House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th House ) > . > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all ayurvedic > ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a combined > treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to come > out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon .mars > .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the dasa > is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord involved > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow > approach is better than expecting some miracles . > > (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata > --so this knowledge is imp ) > > other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna suggestions > ) > > > > hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my in > ability to type in english . > > hope this helps > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp ( so > pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would > like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm many > persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and > those has blf in u . > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house > has > > > mars .// > > True - you are right. > > //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for > 4th > > > house// > > True - you are right. > > //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and > there > > is > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas > already > > > showing and afflcting marriage .// > > Agreed. > > //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd > drekkana > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show > > > sickness too ) .// > > Right you are. > > //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house > ( > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri > dosha > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is > > heavily > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is > > showing > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth ) > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and > gulika > > in > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this > > > problems > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am > > > concluding here . > > > i dont know this lady has any kids// > > You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet. > > //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for > any > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght > too > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and > > > childbirth or abortions . > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya > > is > > > recommended . > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed > > .even > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru > > > badaka doshas too )// > > Thanks for the remedies suggested. > > //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha > along > > > with some venusian effects > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > > they > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier > > record. > > //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to > > go > > > further .// > > Hope my feedback helps. > > //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha > too > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th > L > > > frm lagna . > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is > better > > . // > > OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to > > her. > > > > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading. > > Excellent. > > Love and regards, > > Sreenadh > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > Dear sreenadh ji > > > > > > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house > has > > > mars . > > > > > > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited > > > > > > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana , > > > > > > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for > 4th > > > house > > > > > > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there > > is > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas > already > > > showing and afflcting marriage . > > > > > > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show > > > sickness too ) . > > > > > > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house ( > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri > dosha > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is > > heavily > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is > > showing > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth ) > > > > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and > gulika > > in > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this > > > problems > > > > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am > > > concluding here . > > > > > > i dont know this lady has any kids > > > > > > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght > too > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and > > > childbirth or abortions . > > > > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya > > is > > > recommended . > > > > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed > > .even > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru > > > badaka doshas too ) > > > > > > > > > > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along > > > with some venusian effects > > > > > > > > > > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > > they > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies . > > > > > > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to > go > > > further . > > > > > > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th > L > > > frm lagna . > > > > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is > better > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on > > 9/14/08) > > > > - > > > > ====== > > > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder > daughter > > > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you > > kindly > > > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a > > Discussion > > > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group > philosophy > > > and > > > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give > her > > > and > > > > her husband " s birth data to you.// > > > > ====== > > > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and > daughter's > > > > husband. She send the following info to me - > > > > ====== > > > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04- 1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M); > > > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI) > > > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06- --1973; TOB---0115 hours; > > POB--BOMBAY > > > > (MUMBAI)// > > > > ====== > > > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above > > > > situation as requested by the qurrent. > > > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole > > issue, > > > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as > > > names. > > > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required. > > > > Love and regards, > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Liana, I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars. You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way you prefer - 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars. 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part. 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions. 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files section. Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige . best wishes, Bhaskar. , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> ~Namaste~> Dear Shobhana ji,> Dear All,> > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some> members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because> i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> conclusions are the same.> What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> case she has an agresivity Karma. > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> planet is transiting her 12th house. > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> attempt to suicide.> > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> > I hope it helps> > P.S.> > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> Warm Regards,> > Liana> > > > > , "Shobhana"> shobhana_ms@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The> > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished> > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon> > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come> > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna.> > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars> > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her> > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to> > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of> > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange> > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with> > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th,> > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting> > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord> > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> lagna or> > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life> > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury> > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out> > attemts on ones life.> > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of> > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the> > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga> > in the Rasi.> > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord> > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.> > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds> > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing> > the Moon.> > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in> > the fifth house.> > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,> > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is> > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating> > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of> > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with> > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can> > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue.> > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her> > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation> > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and> > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems> > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or> > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer /> > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from> > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK> > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other> > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner> > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to> > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on> > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am> > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > > > > > Regards.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Liana , You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module, for the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details are as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP Ayanamsa). regards, Bhaskar. , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Liana,> > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It> would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of> the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western> astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal> degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars.> > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way> you prefer -> > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars.> > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part.> > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions.> > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files> section.> > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige .> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > , "blulisan"> blulisan@ wrote:> >> > ~Namaste~> > Dear Shobhana ji,> > Dear All,> >> > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some> > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because> > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> > conclusions are the same.> > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> >> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> > planet is transiting her 12th house.> >> > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > attempt to suicide.> >> > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> >> > I hope it helps> >> > P.S.> >> > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> >> >> >> > , "Shobhana"> > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Narayana> > >> > >> > >> > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope.> The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > >> > >> > >> > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out> come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with> Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make> her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > >> > >> > >> > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord> of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion> with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya> lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > >> > >> > >> > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for> life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out> > > attemts on ones life.> > >> > >> > >> > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord> of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to> the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > >> > >> > >> > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart.> Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.> > >> > >> > >> > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical> odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> troturing> > > the Moon.> > >> > >> > >> > > What is problem with this chart.> > >> > >> > >> > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > >> > >> > >> > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter> in> > > the fifth house.> > >> > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > >> > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > >> > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > >> > >> > >> > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > >> > >> > >> > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It> is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> trouble> > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival> of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is> with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between> can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > >> > >> > >> > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > >> > >> > >> > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord> ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the> GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go> on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > >> > >> > >> > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I> am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > >> > >> > >> > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards.> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Kursija ji, It was Sunil ji who did a Prashna also for this native (and not me) - in an effort to arrive at correct results as part of his reading, about this native. You can request him to provide the details if required. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote: > > Respected Sreenadh, > Thanks for sharing the event. I shall be glad if you can share the time of prashan, date of prashana and place of prashana so that we can analyse the degrees of the planets also. > > --- On Tue, 9/16/08, Sreenadh sreesog wrote: > > Sreenadh sreesog > Re: Attempted suicide > > Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 11:11 AM > > Dear Sunil ji, > That was informative. Let me share the feed back. > // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl > > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by > > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of > > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L > > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so > > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or > > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) ) > > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too . > > > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b > > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations > > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn > > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha > > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or > > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are > > not protecting the person// > OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here are some words quoted from her mother's mail. > ==== > I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will protect the confidentiality. She is blessed with great intellect and photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was always somewhat adamant and quarrelsome. We had finalised her marriage with a C A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our Son in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003 or so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband is not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in a negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations with most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has been able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong > in her upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But above all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone around her who understands this tolerates her. > We have approached professional Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the last 4 or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b admitted for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday that is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one month and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job. > ==== > //> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own > > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of > romance > > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th > > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too > > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in > > 7th ( in parivartan too . > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with > > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness > > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for > > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with > > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all > > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th > > House ). > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for > > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all > > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then > > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help > > will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD > > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has > > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon > >too and both cases Lagna Lord involved > > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow > > approach is better than expecting some miracles .// > Thanks fro the valuable guidance. > //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own > > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata --so this knowledge is imp )// > The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala. > Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear sreenadh ji > > > > Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked while > > trying to giv feed back . > > > > > > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along > > > with some venusian effects > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > > they > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier > > record. > > > > > > Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl > > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected by > > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of > > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L > > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .( so > > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage or > > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) ) > > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too . > > > > > > > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b > > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental aberrations > > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in turn > > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru badha > > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers or > > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties are > > not protecting the person > > > > > > > > and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja or > > prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp too > > .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of romance > > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th > > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected too > > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars in > > 7th ( in parivartan too . > > > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted > > > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along with > > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital happiness > > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for 5th > > House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with > > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all > > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th House ) > > . > > > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment for > > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all ayurvedic > > ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a combined > > treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to come > > out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon ..mars > > .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the dasa > > is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord involved > > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow > > approach is better than expecting some miracles . > > > > (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own > > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as kuldevata > > --so this knowledge is imp ) > > > > other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna suggestions > > ) > > > > > > > > hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my in > > ability to type in english . > > > > hope this helps > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp ( so > > pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would > > like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm many > > persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and > > those has blf in u . > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some > > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house > > has > > > > mars .// > > > True - you are right. > > > //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is > > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for > > 4th > > > > house// > > > True - you are right. > > > //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and > > there > > > is > > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot > > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas > > already > > > > showing and afflcting marriage .// > > > Agreed. > > > //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd > > drekkana > > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show > > > > sickness too ) .// > > > Right you are. > > > //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house > > ( > > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri > > dosha > > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is > > > heavily > > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is > > > showing > > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth ) > > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and > > gulika > > > in > > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in > > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this > > > > problems > > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am > > > > concluding here . > > > > i dont know this lady has any kids// > > > You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet. > > > //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for > > any > > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght > > too > > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and > > > > childbirth or abortions . > > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya > > > is > > > > recommended . > > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed > > > .even > > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru > > > > badaka doshas too )// > > > Thanks for the remedies suggested. > > > //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha > > along > > > > with some venusian effects > > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > > > they > > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .// > > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well > > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier > > > record. > > > //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to > > > go > > > > further .// > > > Hope my feedback helps. > > > //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha > > too > > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th > > L > > > > frm lagna . > > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is > > better > > > . // > > > OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it to > > > her. > > > > > > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading. > > > Excellent. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA > > > > > > > > Dear sreenadh ji > > > > > > > > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some > > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th house > > has > > > > mars . > > > > > > > > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited > > > > > > > > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana , > > > > > > > > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is > > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka for > > 4th > > > > house > > > > > > > > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and there > > > is > > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot > > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas > > already > > > > showing and afflcting marriage . > > > > > > > > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd drekkana > > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show > > > > sickness too ) . > > > > > > > > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th house ( > > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri > > dosha > > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is > > > heavily > > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is > > > showing > > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth ) > > > > > > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and > > gulika > > > in > > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in > > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with this > > > > problems > > > > > > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i am > > > > concluding here . > > > > > > > > i dont know this lady has any kids > > > > > > > > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for any > > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental strnght > > too > > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy and > > > > childbirth or abortions . > > > > > > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or amavasya > > > is > > > > recommended . > > > > > > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r recomemebed > > > .even > > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off satru > > > > badaka doshas too ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along > > > > with some venusian effects > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know kula > > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if > > > they > > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies . > > > > > > > > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading to > > go > > > > further . > > > > > > > > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha too > > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also 6th > > L > > > > frm lagna . > > > > > > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is > > better > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " > > > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear All, > > > > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on > > > 9/14/08) > > > > > - > > > > > ====== > > > > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder > > daughter > > > > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If you > > > kindly > > > > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a > > > Discussion > > > > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group > > philosophy > > > > and > > > > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall give > > her > > > > and > > > > > her husband " s birth data to you.// > > > > > ====== > > > > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and > > daughter's > > > > > husband. She send the following info to me - > > > > > ====== > > > > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04- 1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M); > > > > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI) > > > > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06- --1973; TOB---0115 hours; > > > POB--BOMBAY > > > > > (MUMBAI)// > > > > > ====== > > > > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above > > > > > situation as requested by the qurrent. > > > > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the whole > > > issue, > > > > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such as > > > > names. > > > > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required. > > > > > Love and regards, > > > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Here is the feed back from the qurrent. //My dear Sreenadhji, Thank you so much. Exactly as i expected the learned members have started helping with their in depth analysis and suggestions of remedies.And the humane and empathetic manner in which you are guiding really overwhelms me..// That is good, and makes us all happy I belive. You said - //> Her marriage which can defy some way existing norms of society is> viscible in her chart ( tho not uncommon this days but i am an> astrologer so i hav to use this words only as astrology is kalathitha (> for all ages ) .// Could be - I don't have much info about the same. //> Now i suggest her to take some ashtavaidya( traditional ayurvedic> families of kerala -in trichur there is one ) treatment for> strnghtening mental faculties first ,then if fathers is nampoothiri or> kerala brahmin then they shud strt the monthly pakka nal archana in her> name ( nakshtra poojas ) and if any pitri karamas are held up for> reasons they shud complete it in family .And neechanna danam etc shud b> observed .then they can go with medical advice too .> so this kind of 3 fold action along with frequent visit to chottanikara> devi temple shud solve the problems .First strt with pitri santhi karmas> ,then if they ask ozhivu ( efficacy of remedies and other things ) u or> me can help them ,one by one> i hope this is enough> i pray to mother devine to protect her .// The qurrent gave me the feed back -I have seen Shri Suniljis remedies and shall proceed with them. That is good. She requests - //I shall b grateful if you can kindly also ask for analysis of the horoscope of my Son in law simultaneously as even though my daugher is not cooperating in any way to make the marriage a success,her husband and mother in law are extremely patient.So i hope that the marriage may survive.// Then again she proceeds to state -//When she consumed sleeping pills on Saturday,I was sure that this time she would come out. I managed to instruct my Son in law to get her out of her slumber.You can imagine my agony. I really feel for her mother in law and husband.But unfortunately after her marriage her mental state has taken a beating.So if our Group can analyse both the birth data it may be more comprehensive.// If you are interested - give her some response on this too.//Does Mr.Sunil Nair have a personal ID? Is he a practsing professional?// I am giving her your id and phone number. She tells us that - //Thank you once again from the bottom of my heart.// That is good to hear. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sreenadh ji> > many many thanks for feed back .> > Her marriage which can defy some way existing norms of society is> viscible in her chart ( tho not uncommon this days but i am an> astrologer so i hav to use this words only as astrology is kalathitha (> for all ages ) .> > Now i suggest her to take some ashtavaidya( traditional ayurvedic> families of kerala -in trichur there is one ) treatment for> strnghtening mental faculties first ,then if fathers is nampoothiri or> kerala brahmin then they shud strt the monthly pakka nal archana in her> name ( nakshtra poojas ) and if any pitri karamas are held up for> reasons they shud complete it in family .And neechanna danam etc shud b> observed .then they can go with medical advice too .> > so this kind of 3 fold action along with frequent visit to chottanikara> devi temple shud solve the problems .First strt with pitri santhi karmas> ,then if they ask ozhivu ( efficacy of remedies and other things ) u or> me can help them ,one by one> > > > i hope this is enough> > > > i pray to mother devine to protect her .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > , "Sreenadh"> sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > That was informative. Let me share the feed back.> > // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl> > > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected> > by> > > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> > > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> > > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .(> so> > > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage> or> > > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> > > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> > >> > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> > > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental> > aberrations> > > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in> turn> > > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru> badha> > > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers> or> > > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties> are> > > not protecting the person//> > OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here> > are some words quoted from her mother's mail.> > ====> > I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will> > protect the confidentiality.She is blessed with great intellect and> > photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was always> > somewhat adamant and quarrelsome.We had finalised her marriage with a> C> > A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our Son> > in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of> > March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003 or> > so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the> > current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband is> > not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in a> > negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last> > three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations> with> > most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has been> > able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong in her> > upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But above> > all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone around> > her who understands this tolerates her. We have approached> professional> > Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION> > DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the last> 4> > or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b admitted> > for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday> that> > is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one> month> > and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job.> > ====> > //> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own> > > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha> > is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana (> > place of > romance> > > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> > > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected> > too> > > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars> > in> > > 7th ( in parivartan too .> > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along> with> > > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital> > happiness> > > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for> > > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi> with> > > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> > > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th> > > House ).> > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment> for> > > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all> > > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then> > > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help> > > will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD> > > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has> > > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon> > >too and both cases Lagna Lord involved> > > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> > > approach is better than expecting some miracles .//> > Thanks fro the valuable guidance.> > //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> > > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as> kuldevata> > --so this knowledge is imp )//> > The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala.> > Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "sunil nair"> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna> > >> > > dear sreenadh ji> > >> > > Thanks for the feed back .i am giving some clarifications u asked> > while> > > trying to giv feed back .> > >> > >> > >> > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha along> > > > with some venusian effects> > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know> kula> > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp ,if> > > they> > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and carrier> > > record.> > >> > >> > > Ans -- in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna> > spl> > > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign ,aspected> > by> > > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord of> > > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> > > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus .(> so> > > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage> or> > > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies ) )> > > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> > >> > >> > >> > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may b> > > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental> > aberrations> > > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in> turn> > > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru> badha> > > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple prayers> or> > > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties> are> > > not protecting the person> > >> > >> > >> > > and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own pooja> > or> > > prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that dosha is imp> too> > > .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana ( place of> romance> > > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is 8th> > > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is affected> > too> > > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with mars> > in> > > 7th ( in parivartan too .> > >> > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> > >> > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along> with> > > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital> > happiness> > > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka for> > 5th> > > House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi with> > > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .( all> > > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th> House> > )> > > .> > >> > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment> for> > > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all> > ayurvedic> > > ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then only a> combined> > > treatment of remedical and medical and mental help will help her to> > come> > > out of this problems .other wise continous PD lords ( sun .moon> .mars> > > .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has potency to do harm esp the> dasa> > > is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon too and both cases Lagna Lord> > involved> > > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a slow> > > approach is better than expecting some miracles .> > >> > > (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has own> > > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as> kuldevata> > > --so this knowledge is imp )> > >> > > other wise we hav to take horoscopical influence and prashna> > suggestions> > > )> > >> > >> > >> > > hope i clarified and u know limitations of english language and my> in> > > ability to type in english .> > >> > > hope this helps> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > > ps --the knowledge abt when this symptom shown in first time is imp> (> > so> > > pls let them giv feed back in case they want my opinions but i would> > > like make it clear that if they want 100 opinions on same thing frm> > many> > > persons then leav me frm this ) we can help only serious seekers and> > > those has blf in u .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > > //> This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th> house> > > has> > > > > mars .//> > > > True - you are right.> > > > //> moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day> is> > > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka> for> > > 4th> > > > > house//> > > > True - you are right.> > > > //> also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and> > > there> > > > is> > > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> > > already> > > > > showing and afflcting marriage .//> > > > Agreed.> > > > //> dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd> > > drekkana> > > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > > > sickness too ) .//> > > > Right you are.> > > > //> so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th> > house> > > (> > > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> > > dosha> > > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > > > heavily> > > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > > > showing> > > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> > > gulika> > > > in> > > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with> this> > > > > problems> > > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i> > am> > > > > concluding here .> > > > > i dont know this lady has any kids//> > > > You are absolutly right - The lady does not have kids yet.> > > > //> so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment> for> > > any> > > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental> strnght> > > too> > > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy> and> > > > > childbirth or abortions .> > > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or> > amavasya> > > > is> > > > > recommended .> > > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r> recomemebed> > > > .even> > > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off> satru> > > > > badaka doshas too )//> > > > Thanks for the remedies suggested.> > > > //> in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha> > > along> > > > > with some venusian effects> > > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know> > kula> > > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp> ,if> > > > they> > > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .//> > > > Please clarify this point. The qurrent (native's mother) is a well> > > > educated hindu brahmin lady with an excellent education and> carrier> > > > record.> > > > //> i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my> reading> > to> > > > go> > > > > further .//> > > > Hope my feedback helps.> > > > //> dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti> dosha> > > too> > > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also> > 6th> > > L> > > > > frm lagna .> > > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> > > better> > > > . //> > > > OK. If the lady asks for your contact details, I will provide it> to> > > > her.> > > >> > > > Comment: Overall it was an excellent and to the point reading.> > > > Excellent.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > HARE RAMA KRISHNA> > > > >> > > > > Dear sreenadh ji> > > > >> > > > > This chart the marriage and relationship part is showing some> > > > > problems as venus the karaka has 2/8 axis afflicted and 4th> house> > > has> > > > > mars .> > > > >> > > > > also frm lagna 7thand 8th is afflcited> > > > >> > > > > born in pournami on sankranthi day on tueday on vishi karana ,> > > > >> > > > > moon showing abnorml tendencies those who born on pornami day is> > > > > possible and moon also afflicted by sani and mars .also karaka> for> > > 4th> > > > > house> > > > >> > > > > also u can see 5/11 axis is totaly distrbed by this doshas and> > there> > > > is> > > > > exchange between 5th L and 7th L ( this connection is sure shot> > > > > combination for family troubles ) here along with other doshas> > > already> > > > > showing and afflcting marriage .> > > > >> > > > > dasa running is jup and he is lagna and 4th L and also 22nd> > drekkana> > > > > Lord frm moon and lagna also 85th dwadamasa Lord ( even can show> > > > > sickness too ) .> > > > >> > > > > so dasa was bad as it is afflicted too esp as karaka for 5th> house> > (> > > > > mental faculties ) and also karaka for 9th house ( showing pitri> > > dosha> > > > > effects frm past life too ) as pitri karaka and matri karaka is> > > > heavily> > > > > afflcited and frm lagna is showing 5th house and frm moon it is> > > > showing> > > > > in 8th House ( also moon sign is stronger with purnima birth )> > > > >> > > > > even 5th house is completely gone as kendras are afflicted and> > > gulika> > > > in> > > > > 7th house with rahu .and sani also aspecting there and Lord in> > > > > parivartan .Merc in martial signs is another dosha along with> this> > > > > problems> > > > >> > > > > so i am not going to more details which can b wrrite long ,but i> > am> > > > > concluding here .> > > > >> > > > > i dont know this lady has any kids> > > > >> > > > > so doing pitru santi karmas r neccesary .and also treatment for> > any> > > > > mental problems and having ayurvedic medicines for mental> strnght> > > too> > > > > recommended .Also check any doshas strted along with prgnancy> and> > > > > childbirth or abortions .> > > > >> > > > > feeding of poor and downtroden is suggested on sani days or> > amavasya> > > > is> > > > > recommended .> > > > >> > > > > gayatri recitation along with mahamritujaya mantras r> recomemebed> > > > .even> > > > > mahamityunja poojas ( as prashna maarga says it can ward off> satru> > > > > badaka doshas too )> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > in prashna also badaka stana afflicted and showing satru dosha> > along> > > > > with some venusian effects> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > also i dont know this ppl frm which area and caste etc to know> > kula> > > > > gotra devatas and mantras for increasing their blessing in imp> ,if> > > > they> > > > > dont know it can b laxmi narayana or vaishnava moorthies .> > > > >> > > > > i am waiting for more feed backs to negete and agree my reading> to> > > go> > > > > further .> > > > >> > > > > dasa is bad and next PD is sun who is weak being sankranti dosha> > too> > > > > ,after oct 23rd 2008 .( now running jup-merc--venus ) venus also> > 6th> > > L> > > > > frm lagna .> > > > >> > > > > actualy this kind of cases face to face reading and prashna is> > > better> > > > .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear All,> > > > > > Here is an extract from a mail I received from a monther (on> > > > 9/14/08)> > > > > > -> > > > > > ======> > > > > > //Sreenadhji I have a serious worry with regard to my elder> > > daughter> > > > > > who has attempted suicide twice the latest one yesterday.If> you> > > > kindly> > > > > > permit I would like our Group members to analyse this as a> > > > Discussion> > > > > > matter and find remedies. If this goes against our Group> > > philosophy> > > > > and> > > > > > aims I will understand and not trouble you further. I shall> give> > > her> > > > > and> > > > > > her husband"s birth data to you.//> > > > > > ======> > > > > > I asked her to provide the Birth data of her daughter and> > > daughter's> > > > > > husband. She send the following info to me -> > > > > > ======> > > > > > //Daughter: DOB---14-04-1976; TOB----0047 hours (12.47 A M);> > > > > > POB----BOMBAY (MUMBAI)> > > > > > Daughter's husband: DOB---18--06---1973; TOB---0115 hours;> > > > POB--BOMBAY> > > > > > (MUMBAI)//> > > > > > ======> > > > > > Anyone interested can proceed with the discussion of the above> > > > > > situation as requested by the qurrent.> > > > > > Note: She provided some more backgroud info regarding the> whole> > > > issue,> > > > > > which I am withhelding along with other personal details such> as> > > > > names.> > > > > > I will reveal them during discussion, if required.> > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Kursija ji here is prashna details ,udaya Lagna is Taurus and Kowri prashna aroodha lagna is LIbra ( note shashtashtama here ) also frm aroodha lagna Moon in 6th House . rest i leav to u for delinations Natal Chart September 15, 2008Time: 23:19:55Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)Place: 77 E 13' 00", 28 N 40' 00" Delhi, IndiaTithi: Krishna Pratipat (Su) (62.04% left)Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo)Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (96.28% left)Yoga: Ganda (Sa) (76.73% left)Karana: Balava (Mo) (24.07% left)Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ta)Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc)Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:09:54Sunset: 18:22:14 Hope this helps regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Kursija ji,> It was Sunil ji who did a Prashna also for this native (and not me) -> in an effort to arrive at correct results as part of his reading, about> this native. You can request him to provide the details if required.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> >> > Respected Sreenadh,> > Thanks for sharing the event. I shall be glad if you can share the> time of prashan, date of prashana and place of prashana so that we can> analyse the degrees of the planets also.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Namaste,Dear All,I am glad i can offer you for study another case of suicide, which i studied at that time (last year).Infos for the case :FemaleDOB: 18 jan 1982 10:05am Arad Romania (46n11 21e20)Time of suicide/ death 17 june 2007 aprox. 11pm (same location)This is an interesting case to study and i think some curse was involved for her death.For another case i will return with infos because it seems i lost them (the son of my boss)I hope this helps.Warm Regards,Liana , "samir kagalkar" <skagalkar wrote:>> Dear Liana> > It will be a great help in understanding of this phenomenon if you can post> some of the details of such cases. Also if possible please indicate the> timing of the end, so that beginners like me can have a look at them to> understand the concept.> > Regards> > Samir> > On Tue, Sep 16, 2008 at 3:19 AM, blulisan blulisan wrote:> > > ~Namaste~> > Dear Shobhana ji,> > Dear All,> >> > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some> > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because> > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> > conclusions are the same.> > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> >> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> > planet is transiting her 12th house.> >> > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > attempt to suicide.> >> > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> >> > I hope it helps> >> > P.S.> >> > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> > <%40>,> > "Shobhana"> >> > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Narayana> > >> > >> > >> > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > >> > >> > >> > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > >> > >> > >> > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > >> > >> > >> > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out> > > attemts on ones life.> > >> > >> > >> > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > >> > >> > >> > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart. Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.> > >> > >> > >> > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are troturing> > > the Moon.> > >> > >> > >> > > What is problem with this chart.> > >> > >> > >> > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > >> > >> > >> > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter in> > > the fifth house.> > >> > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > >> > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > >> > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > >> > >> > >> > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > >> > >> > >> > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big trouble> > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > >> > >> > >> > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > >> > >> > >> > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > >> > >> > >> > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > >> > >> > >> > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards.> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Respected Sunil Nair, Thanks for the details and prompt reply. Regards --- On Tue, 9/16/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Attempted suicide Tuesday, September 16, 2008, 1:34 PM Hare rama krishna dear Kursija ji here is prashna details ,udaya Lagna is Taurus and Kowri prashna aroodha lagna is LIbra ( note shashtashtama here ) also frm aroodha lagna Moon in 6th House . rest i leav to u for delinations Natal Chart Date: September 15, 2008 Time: 23:19:55 Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) Place: 77 E 13' 00 " , 28 N 40' 00 " Delhi, India Tithi: Krishna Pratipat (Su) (62.04% left) Vedic Weekday: Monday (Mo) Nakshatra: Uttarabhadra (Sa) (96.28% left) Yoga: Ganda (Sa) (76.73% left) Karana: Balava (Mo) (24.07% left) Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Ta) Mahakala Hora: Jupiter (5 min sign: Sc) Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Saturn) Sunrise: 6:09:54 Sunset: 18:22:14 Hope this helps regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Kursija ji, > It was Sunil ji who did a Prashna also for this native (and not me) - > in an effort to arrive at correct results as part of his reading, about > this native. You can request him to provide the details if required. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " S.C. Kursija " > sckursija@ wrote: > > > > Respected Sreenadh, > > Thanks for sharing the event. I shall be glad if you can share the > time of prashan, date of prashana and place of prashana so that we can > analyse the degrees of the planets also. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sreenadh ji Once again thanks for the feed back . i will do the husbands chart one of this days in grp itself . I also request other learned memebrs to try on that chartof husband and pls guide me and the suffering family which will b a gr8 help .Also other memebrs in grp can learn various approach existing in astrology frm various schools . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Here is the feed back from the qurrent.> //My dear Sreenadhji, Thank you so much. Exactly as i expected the> learned members have started helping with their in depth analysis and> suggestions of remedies.And the humane and empathetic manner in which> you are guiding really overwhelms me..//> That is good, and makes us all happy I belive. []> You said -> //> Her marriage which can defy some way existing norms of society is> > viscible in her chart ( tho not uncommon this days but i am an> > astrologer so i hav to use this words only as astrology is kalathitha> (> > for all ages ) .//> Could be - I don't have much info about the same.> //> Now i suggest her to take some ashtavaidya( traditional ayurvedic> > families of kerala -in trichur there is one ) treatment for> > strnghtening mental faculties first ,then if fathers is nampoothiri or> > kerala brahmin then they shud strt the monthly pakka nal archana in> her> > name ( nakshtra poojas ) and if any pitri karamas are held up for> > reasons they shud complete it in family .And neechanna danam etc shud> b> > observed .then they can go with medical advice too .> > so this kind of 3 fold action along with frequent visit to> chottanikara> > devi temple shud solve the problems .First strt with pitri santhi> karmas> > ,then if they ask ozhivu ( efficacy of remedies and other things ) u> or> > me can help them ,one by one> > i hope this is enough> > i pray to mother devine to protect her .//> The qurrent gave me the feed back -> I have seen Shri Suniljis remedies and shall proceed with them.> That is good. She requests -> //I shall b grateful if you can kindly also ask for analysis of the> horoscope of my Son in law simultaneously as even though my daugher is> not cooperating in any way to make the marriage a success,her husband> and mother in law are extremely patient.So i hope that the marriage may> survive.//> Then again she proceeds to state -> //When she consumed sleeping pills on Saturday,I was sure that this time> she would come out. I managed to instruct my Son in law to get her out> of her slumber.You can imagine my agony. I really feel for her mother in> law and husband.But unfortunately after her marriage her mental state> has taken a beating.So if our Group can analyse both the birth data it> may be more comprehensive.//> If you are interested - give her some response on this too.> //Does Mr.Sunil Nair have a personal ID? Is he a practsing> professional?//> I am giving her your id and phone number.> She tells us that - //Thank you once again from the bottom of my> heart.//> That is good to hear.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> >> > dear sreenadh ji> >> > many many thanks for feed back .> >> > Her marriage which can defy some way existing norms of society is> > viscible in her chart ( tho not uncommon this days but i am an> > astrologer so i hav to use this words only as astrology is kalathitha> (> > for all ages ) .> >> > Now i suggest her to take some ashtavaidya( traditional ayurvedic> > families of kerala -in trichur there is one ) treatment for> > strnghtening mental faculties first ,then if fathers is nampoothiri or> > kerala brahmin then they shud strt the monthly pakka nal archana in> her> > name ( nakshtra poojas ) and if any pitri karamas are held up for> > reasons they shud complete it in family .And neechanna danam etc shud> b> > observed .then they can go with medical advice too .> >> > so this kind of 3 fold action along with frequent visit to> chottanikara> > devi temple shud solve the problems .First strt with pitri santhi> karmas> > ,then if they ask ozhivu ( efficacy of remedies and other things ) u> or> > me can help them ,one by one> >> >> >> > i hope this is enough> >> >> >> > i pray to mother devine to protect her .> >> >> >> > regrds sunil nair> >> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> >> >> > , "Sreenadh"> > sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > That was informative. Let me share the feed back.> > > // in prashna tula lagna the bdaka sign is leo ,for chara lagna spl> > > > badaka is kumbha .so u can see both r combined in leo sign> ,aspected> > > by> > > > 6th L of enemies and diseases jup ,who also aspected by 7th Lord> of> > > > chart and also satru karaka mars ( again he is with 9th and 12th L> > > > indicating expenses and loses and lagna lord and debilated venus> .(> > so> > > > here involvement of lagna lord ,venus and karaka for even marriage> > or> > > > other parties realted to marriage too ( even it can other ladies )> )> > > > also mars is tho satru karaka it is 7th L too .> > > >> > > > so mental afflictions and subsequent problems and the reasons may> b> > > > some thing realted to 5th ( kids ?? or romance ?? or mental> > > aberrations> > > > ) and 7th ( marriage ) and badhaka being aspected by 6th L who in> > turn> > > > aspected by satru karaka mars is sure shot combination of satru> > badha> > > > .But i am not sure they employ any methods ,at times simple> prayers> > or> > > > some actions can lead to this kind of problems when family dieties> > are> > > > not protecting the person//> > > OK. Let me provide some backgroup info regarding this native. Here> > > are some words quoted from her mother's mail.> > > ====> > > I need to give you a brief profile of my daughter.I am sure you will> > > protect the confidentiality.She is blessed with great intellect and> > > photographic memory.But she did not excel in Academics.She was> always> > > somewhat adamant and quarrelsome.We had finalised her marriage with> a> > C> > > A in 1998 and it was called off(dowry issue).But later she met our> Son> > > in Law in a Chat Room and she was married in 2001 in the month of> > > March.We came to know that her marriage was not consummated in 2003> or> > > so because she was afraid of physical intimacy.Now we dont know the> > > current situation as she says now while she is willing,her husband> is> > > not upto it.She is against having children and vehemently reacts in> a> > > negative manner when we or friends talk about it.Of late in the last> > > three months she has had to quit 3 jobs.Her interpersonal relations> > with> > > most people is poor.Since people around her tolerate her,she has> been> > > able to carry on.Sometimes I wonder whether I went wrong in her> > > upbringing but I find that she has inherited nothing from me.But> above> > > all while her tongue is bad,her heart is very good and everyone> around> > > her who understands this tolerates her. We have approached> > professional> > > Counseller for her and he has diagonised her as having ATTENTION> > > DEFICIENT HYPER ACTIVITY SYNDROME.She is under treatment for the> last> > 4> > > or 5 years. She sttempted suicide first in 2004 and had to b> admitted> > > for emergency treatment as she consumed sleeping pills.On Saturday> > that> > > is day before yesterday she was asked to quit from her job of one> > month> > > and again consumed sleeping pills.As of now she has no job.> > > ====> > > //> and according to blf when pitri devas are against a person own> > > > pooja or prayers cannot giv protection ,so taking care of that> dosha> > > is > imp too .even in chart u can see 5th house is santana stana (> > > place of > romance> > > > and place of frnds and elders of husband ) and frm moon chart is> 8th> > > > House ( so longitiivity of marriage and own longitivity is> affected> > > too> > > > ) In birth chart also sani in 8th is giving problems along with> mars> > > in> > > > 7th ( in parivartan too .> > > > also 9th L .karaka for devine protection jup etc are afflicted> > > > 5th and 9th houses controlles various things in ladies life along> > with> > > > santana and garbha too ,9th is final dicisive place in marital> > > happiness> > > > ,and dasa in PD now is venus too .who is 6th nad 11th L ( maraka> for> > > > 5th House ) and next PD is sun who is 9th L and even rasi santhi> > with> > > > sankranthi dosha on tuesday birth with birth in vishti karana .(> all> > > > connected again with 5th House ,lord and even sani placed in 8th> > > > House ).> > > > so identify kuladevata ,do remedies for pitri dosha and treatment> > for> > > > mental strnght with medicines having sangupushpa ,brahmi ( all> > > > ayurvedic ) and other kind of counseeling etc shud b tthere.Then> > > > only a combined treatment of remedical and medical and mental help> > > > will help her to comeout of this problems .other wise continous PD> > > > lords ( sun .moon .mars .rahu jup sat etc one way or other has> > > > potency to do harm esp the dasa is maraka dasa frm lagna and moon> > > >too and both cases Lagna Lord involved> > > > with 5th H and 8th House etc ) r showing problems ,so i think a> slow> > > > approach is better than expecting some miracles .//> > > Thanks fro the valuable guidance.> > > //> (kuladevata --in kerala like some south places each family has> own> > > > devata and other places some ppl uses their grama devata as> > kuldevata> > > --so this knowledge is imp )//> > > The native's mother originally belongs to Kerala.> > > Again thaks for the excellent reading, guidance and clarification.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Namaste Dear Baskar ji, Dear All, Thank you for your kind words, yes it is a great pleasure for me to share my knowledge, to help as much as i can. On the Fixed Stars i can say i don't use them all, some only, the most significant i found in my practice, Algol i mentioned, being one of the most significant for maleficence. " Algol, " the demon, " or Demon Star, which " blinks " in Perseus (The Hero). It changes in brightness from 2.0 to 3.3 magnitude and back again every 2.9 days. Algol is an eclipsing binary. Algol marks Medusa's severed head. Algol has a reputation for violence and extreme danger. Algol is a name derived from Arabic " Al Ghoul " meaning " demon " , " evil spirit " or " devil " . The word " alcohol " can also be traced to Al Ghoul. " I use Tropical system for charts readings for planets, but it seems the software is selecting the fixed stars which are in Sidereal system corresponding to the Tropical system, it converts it automatically. In the natal chart i just check the conjunction (same degree aspect or +/-1 degree difference ), between the planet and the fix star to which i already know the position, and according to the influence of the fixed star and other aspects i interpret the effect and the possible effects. Progressions is one of the technique we use for predictions and it seems to be one pretty much accurate. Transits are considered to be outer influences to our natal planets, progressions inner influences, more or less conscious. Calculating progressions technique i will post on the file section of the group (for now it is done by the software. If anyone is interested for a free download of a professional western astrology software, which has also fixed stars, time zones, daylight time and many other tools, please let me know so i will give details) A list of Fixed Stars will be put in the File Section, and the members will be informed. If there is anything else i can share, please let me know. Warm Regards, Liana , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Liana, > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars. > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way > you prefer - > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars. > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part. > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions. > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files > section. > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige . > > best wishes, > > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Baskar ji, Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western side. I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for assessment. Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart. Warm Regards, Liana , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Liana , > You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module, for > the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details are > as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near > Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP Ayanamsa). > regards, Bhaskar. > > , " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Liana, > > > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It > > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of > > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western > > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal > > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars. > > > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way > > you prefer - > > > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars. > > > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part. > > > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions. > > > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files > > section. > > > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige . > > > > best wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " blulisan " > > blulisan@ wrote: > > > > > > ~Namaste~ > > > Dear Shobhana ji, > > > Dear All, > > > > > > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As > some > > > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but > because > > > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my > > > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the > > > conclusions are the same. > > > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, > in > > > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in > this > > > case she has an agresivity Karma. > > > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity. > > > > > > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to > achieve > > > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus). > > > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn > > > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous > > > planet is transiting her 12th house. > > > > > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and > > > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other > > > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to > > > attempt to suicide. > > > > > > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her > > > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for > her > > > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for > > > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really > > > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, > to > > > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim. > > > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed. > > > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation. > > > > > > I hope it helps > > > > > > P.S. > > > > > > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which > > > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB. > > > Warm Regards, > > > > > > Liana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Shobhana " > > > shobhana_ms@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Namo Narayana > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope. > > The > > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just > > finished > > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the > > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus > Moon > > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut > out > > come > > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the > > lagna. > > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign > with > > Mars > > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would > make > > her > > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not > > appear to > > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated > > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and > lord > > of > > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by > > exchange > > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the > > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion > > with > > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of > > 12th, > > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd, > > aspecting > > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a > > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya > > lord > > > > Venus located in the fourth. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the > > > lagna or > > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self, > > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for > > life > > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the > > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility > > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is > > mercury > > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry > out > > > > attemts on ones life. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by > lord > > of > > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest > to > > the > > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu > > bhaga > > > > in the Rasi. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 > chart. > > Lord > > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is > Venus. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical > > odds > > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are > > troturing > > > > the Moon. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What is problem with this chart. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter > > in > > > > the fifth house. > > > > > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction. > > > > > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction > > > > > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, > children, > > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. > It > > is > > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big > > trouble > > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying / > > indicating > > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival > > of > > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is > > with > > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in > between > > can > > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the > > issue. > > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks > > her > > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their > > ralation > > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn > > and > > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is > > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and > problems > > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan > lord > > ) or > > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing, > > Cancer / > > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi > > from > > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns > the > > GK > > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No > other > > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and > partner > > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are > > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She > > needs to > > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will > go > > on > > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I > > am > > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Regards. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji,Thank you for your feed back, glad to have such experiences in comparing and see how the two systems are completing each other. It is true the western system is not giving practical remedies like Jyotish do by mantras, Ayurvedic remedies, but one experimented western astrologer can give some psychological advises which also work (and i am saying this from own experience) I truly believe at this moment the two systems are completing each other and i would like to remind here the hidden aspects of both systems, i mean professional secrets, which are not much public. Self work and experimenting is the most important factor alike true and experimented guidance.Looking forward seeing more experiments like this one, learning and sharing.Warm Regards,Liana , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Dear Liana ji,> //> What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues,> in> > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> >> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > transiting her 8th house in Western system).//> Right you are.> //> Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > attempt to suicide.//> Thanks for the warning.> //> I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.//> Thanks for this bit of psychological guidance.> Comment: Well done. Your readings help us much to compare both the> western and the indian systems - pros and cons of both.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "blulisan"> blulisan@ wrote:> >> > ~Namaste~> > Dear Shobhana ji,> > Dear All,> >> > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As some> > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but because> > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> > conclusions are the same.> > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues, in> > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in this> > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> >> > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to achieve> > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> > planet is transiting her 12th house.> >> > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > attempt to suicide.> >> > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for her> > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities, to> > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> >> > I hope it helps> >> > P.S.> >> > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > Warm Regards,> >> > Liana> >> >> >> >> > , "Shobhana"> > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > >> > >> > >> > > Om Namo Narayana> > >> > >> > >> > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope.> The> > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> finished> > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > >> > >> > >> > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus Moon> > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut out> come> > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> lagna.> > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign with> Mars> > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would make> her> > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> appear to> > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > >> > >> > >> > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and lord> of> > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> exchange> > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion> with> > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> 12th,> > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> aspecting> > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya> lord> > > Venus located in the fourth.> > >> > >> > >> > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > lagna or> > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for> life> > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> mercury> > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry out> > > attemts on ones life.> > >> > >> > >> > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by lord> of> > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest to> the> > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> bhaga> > > in the Rasi.> > >> > >> > >> > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3 chart.> Lord> > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is Venus.> > >> > >> > >> > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical> odds> > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> troturing> > > the Moon.> > >> > >> > >> > > What is problem with this chart.> > >> > >> > >> > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > >> > >> > >> > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter> in> > > the fifth house.> > >> > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > >> > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > >> > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > >> > >> > >> > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house, children,> > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > >> > >> > >> > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage. It> is> > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> trouble> > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> indicating> > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival> of> > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is> with> > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in between> can> > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> issue.> > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> her> > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > >> > >> > >> > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> ralation> > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> and> > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > >> > >> > >> > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and problems> > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan lord> ) or> > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > >> > >> > >> > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> Cancer /> > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> from> > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns the> GK> > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No other> > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and partner> > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> needs to> > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will go> on> > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > >> > >> > >> > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I> am> > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > >> > >> > >> > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > >> > >> > >> > > Regards.> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 16, 2008 Report Share Posted September 16, 2008 Dear Liana, // i would like to see how Western and> Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western > side. // To people like us, who are flexible in their approaches and always ready to learn newer techniques, we will never find the Western and Eastern analysis competeing each other, but would always find them complementing each other. I thank you for juding me worthy to analyse your chart. I need now, two help from you. 1) Your birth details with long lat. also mention Male Female. 2) The link to the site which offers free software for the western approach. Thanks in anticipation. regards, Bhaskar. , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> Dear Baskar ji,> > Thank you for your Birth details, i would like to see how Western and> Jyotish complete each other by analyzing your chart from the western> side. > I will start another topic on doing this reading for you and perhaps> you also can do the same for me, you make take my chart for assessment. > Please take this as a completing help, or both side help, because i am> very much interested in learning Jyotish, and i think the best way one> can learn is studding and analyzing his/her own chart.> Warm Regards,> > Liana> > > , "Bhaskar"> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Liana ,> > You may take my chart for assessment and as a demonstrative module, for> > the learning of all the members here, if you wish. My birth details are> > as under. 28th June 1961 10.15 am ( Morning ) Place - Eluru ( near> > Vijaywada) Lat 16.45N Long 81.09 E Ascendant 16.06 Leo ( KP Ayanamsa).> > regards, Bhaskar.> > > > , "Bhaskar"> > <rajiventerprises@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Liana,> > >> > > I am glad to know that you are well versant in Western astrology.It> > > would help all of us if you give us some guidelines hpw to make use of> > > the Fixed stars in Natal as well as Progressed charts, as per Western> > > astrology. Also indicate whether you use the Tropical or Sidereal> > > degrees when studying the conjunctions with the Stars.> > >> > > You may use the undermentioned format of teaching us or any other way> > > you prefer -> > >> > > 1) Natal Chart- How to check, and usage of Fxed stars.> > >> > > 2) The same chart now progressed , and the predective part.> > >> > > 3) Prior to this, how to calculate progressions.> > >> > > 4) A List of Fixed stars and their results could be put in the Files> > > section.> > >> > > Hope you will share your knowledge , and oblige .> > >> > > best wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "blulisan"> > > blulisan@ wrote:> > > >> > > > ~Namaste~> > > > Dear Shobhana ji,> > > > Dear All,> > > >> > > > This was another great reading. Thank you for such exercises. As> > some> > > > members already know i am a beginner in learning Jyotish, but> > because> > > > i know western astrology, i was trying to compare (for my> > > > understanding) the two systems. Even these are so much different the> > > > conclusions are the same.> > > > What else i can complete is i think there are some jealousy issues,> > in> > > > balance from the native, and much agressivity. Westerners say in> > this> > > > case she has an agresivity Karma.> > > > She needs to learn the lesson of patience, duty, and maturity.> > > >> > > > Mental might be serious afflicted and she is in real danger to> > achieve> > > > mental disturbance. (Mercury opposing Uranus).> > > > Certainly she was afflicted by Sun conjunction to Saturn (Saturn> > > > transiting her 8th house in Western system). Pluto another dangerous> > > > planet is transiting her 12th house.> > > >> > > > Progressed Sun is conjoint to the malefic fixed star Algol and> > > > squaring progressed Mars,which is over natal Saturn activating other> > > > stressful aspects from natal chart, so i thing she will try again to> > > > attempt to suicide.> > > >> > > > I am sure she is a stubborn person and one can not convince her> > > > easily. I think it is difficult to recall external influences for> > her> > > > help, she needs to become aware the suicide is not THE SOLUTIONS for> > > > her problems, she needs to keep her mind preoccupied to really> > > > important stuff, to involve her in physical and mental activities,> > to> > > > make her feel herself helpful and to not treat her like a victim.> > > > With patience, Love and diplomacy she can be helped and healed.> > > > I wish her and her family all best wishes to recover this situation.> > > >> > > > I hope it helps> > > >> > > > P.S.> > > >> > > > If members are interested in another cases like this, but which> > > > finished sadly, please let me know, so i will post their DOB.> > > > Warm Regards,> > > >> > > > Liana> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "Shobhana"> > > > shobhana_ms@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sreenaadha Ji,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Om Namo Narayana> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > With the above prayer I venture into an analysis of the horoscope.> > > The> > > > > Jataka at present has completed 34 years of age. She has just> > > finished> > > > > her natural time of Mercury and entered into the realm of Saturn.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > From the first look of the horoscope, there is No alpaayu. For the> > > > > native as six out of nine planets are in Panaphar, Venus, Venus> > Moon> > > > > occupies kandra and there is nothing in Apoklima. The clear cut> > out> > > come> > > > > is minimum Madhyamaayu. Lord of Lagna, Jupiter also aspects the> > > lagna.> > > > > Inspite of Mercury, the lord of Seventh house, exchanging sign> > with> > > Mars> > > > > which has become a Maraka, due to that and other reasons, would> > make> > > her> > > > > attempt on her life from 27 to 34 years of age, there does not> > > appear to> > > > > Alpaayu. The triad of PAM, as per Jaimini method, it indicated> > > > > madhyamaayu of lower bracket.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Let us now see the Marakas. Lord of the Seventh is Mercury and> > lord> > > of> > > > > the second is Saturn. Mercury has shunned the reponsibility by> > > exchange> > > > > of sign with fifth lord Mars. Mars otherwise is key planet for the> > > > > ascendent bu being in 7th, aspecting 2nd, having establish realion> > > with> > > > > lord of the seventh and 10th, aspecting 10th also, being lord of> > > 12th,> > > > > it has become a top class maraka. Saturn being lord of 2nd,> > > aspecting> > > > > second, aspecting 10th and aspecting lord of 7th also has become a> > > > > Marka. So we have to deal with two marakas and a strong trishadaya> > > lord> > > > > Venus located in the fourth.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > For an attempt of suicide, connection between the eight, the> > > > lagna or> > > > > minimum the third and the eight is necessary. Third is self,> > > > > subcounsciousness, self effort, courage, attempt and is Karaka for> > > life> > > > > being eight of eight. Somehow, if there is connection between the> > > > > fourth, the eight and twelvth withe eighth, it makes a possibility> > > > > stronger. The lords of the third of Kalpurusha chart, that is> > > mercury> > > > > and its Karak mars also play importnat roles in making one carry> > out> > > > > attemts on ones life.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Lord of Lagna and lord of the fourth house here are aspected by> > lord> > > of> > > > > the third house Saturn. Let us also see which planets are nerest> > to> > > the> > > > > Mrityu Bhaga, Rahu and Mercury happen to be closet to the Mrityu> > > bhaga> > > > > in the Rasi.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The lord of 22nd drekkana is Jupiter occupying lagana in D-3> > chart.> > > Lord> > > > > of the 64th Navamsa from Lagna is Satuen and from the Moon is> > Venus.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > One has to metally weak or giveup and undergo tremendious physical> > > odds> > > > > to think of ending one life. In the chart Saturn and Mars are> > > troturing> > > > > the Moon.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > What is problem with this chart.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The biggest peblem of this chart is two fold:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Two malefics afflicting Merucury and Nantural Putra karaka Jupiter> > > in> > > > > the fifth house.> > > > >> > > > > Fifth house, Jupiter under heavy affliction.> > > > >> > > > > Mercury under heavy affliction> > > > >> > > > > And biggest problem, Saturn aspecting Sun.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > I am afraid the main problem emantes from the fifth house,> > children,> > > > > income of the spouse, his useles friends and lack of comaptibilty.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The denager is not to the life of the native but to her marriage.> > It> > > is> > > > > on rocks, either mishaps intervene otr the courts. I see a big> > > trouble> > > > > for the marriage. lord of fifth in seveth is also saying /> > > indicating> > > > > the third angle. It would be fifficult to work out for the suvival> > > of> > > > > the marriage. Attempts though should be made. Lord of the lagna is> > > with> > > > > the lord of the seveth house but in inimical fashion. Sun in> > between> > > can> > > > > obly brig bondage. but Ketu is satating that child / son may the> > > issue.> > > > > If she has corpluent she needs to reduce the wight. If she thinks> > > her> > > > > work and office is end all she needs to change her attidue.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Presently she is undergoing Vimshottary dasa of Jup / Me. Their> > > ralation> > > > > has been explained above. Mercury is under pressure of Jup Saturn> > > and> > > > > Ketu. Ju is lord of 22nd Drekkana.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > In yogini, dasa is of Rahu / Dhanaya (Shankata/ Jupiter) Rahu is> > > > > occupying Jupter astar. bothe signifying 22 dreshkonna and> > problems> > > > > induced by the love affairs ( 5th house) of the Jupiter (lagan> > lord> > > ) or> > > > > due to lack of son more likely to be later.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Now I will try and finally clinch the issue. She is undergoing,> > > Cancer /> > > > > Cancer Rasi dasa period. Perfect Cancer. Cancer is the eight rasi> > > from> > > > > her Lagna, that makes her try an attempyt on the life as satuns> > the> > > GK> > > > > occupies the Rasi. Cancer also happens to house Paran pada. No> > other> > > > > palnet aspects it. Problems of the family, work, office and> > partner> > > > > (love) mount as the Rasi and Satuen aspct A7, A8, A10 and A4 are> > > > > associated with Cn Rasi by aspect. This was a real attempt. She> > > needs to> > > > > be care full as Dasa Chdra of this Rasi (8th from ascendant) will> > go> > > on> > > > > upto Apr 2009. This a double GK dasa and really dangerious.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Next Dasa will be very good and smooth. If the realtion survives I> > > am> > > > > not sure due to heavy afflictions.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Upaya, if so desired, will to be discussed with the native only.> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards.> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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