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Namaste Neelam ji

 

Thanks for lovely and intelligent posting ..

 

I would however only differ in the House meaning per my understanding per

tradition ...

 

2nd Hse is for accumulated wealth (4th from 11th Hse)

5th Hse for speculative wealth

8th Hse for unearned/inherited wealth

11th Hse for income in general

 

Best wishes ..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of neelam gupta

02 August 2008 17:03

 

Re: Re: RE:LL_in_Different_Amsa_Taurus

 

Dear Bhaskar ji and group,

 

I know this group enjoys going off the tangents... but allow me to revert

you all back to astrology...

 

//Now why is the 5th house solitarily, a house of loss in money matters?

just hold your horoscope upside down. Now see. It becomes the 11th house for

the opposite person with whom you are dealing. Got it? //

//Anyone having 5th house strong in his chart, must never go for

partnerships, because his partner would pocket the major part of profits,

while the native would be left with nothing.//

This is only a small part of the story and I don't think we can generalize

this statement, as this will entirely depend upon the nature of 5H/7H/lagna

(with this I mean all influencing factors). 11H is of gains, not really

income, for which we have 2H. And 5H is the place where this income is kept

(4H from 2H). 5H is also called lakshmi sthan. If your 5H is 11H for

partner, it could also mean that partner has kept his gains in your tijori.

If 5H is strong, it could also mean you are pocketing your partner's gains.

It might be like having a partner who comes and hands over his gains to his

partner/spouse.

11H is many types of gains including our gains in experiences. 5H throws

challenges in getting gains (being 7th from 11H) for self also. If you see

in esoteric terms, 5H of poorv punya throwing daunting challenges in getting

gains, experiences, temptations which cause loss of moksh in 12H and you

repeat the lifecycle. 5H is the house of intellect and vivek, when this does

not work, we lose in 11H. When we cannot speculate, there are no gains in

11H. 5H shows the previous sanchit karmas and 11H is always is a challenge

(read marak). So the challenges of these two houses work in tandem -- one

from another and vice versa.

Coming back to the points in blue, if you meditate on the relationship

between 1H and 7H, thinking about the partners, spouse, opponents, even your

own projected self, on the points discussed above, an interesting story

would emerge that will clarify most of the life's issues. Just think of the

following points:

* 2/5/8/11 houses are the same set of houses from lagna as well as 7H.

 

* If we take only for monetary gains, 2H is my income, 5H is where I

keep it, 8H is my unearned/inherited wealth and 11H is my gains which

complete the circle when reinvested for income in 2H. Similarly, taking from

7H, 8H is my partners income, 11H is his lakshmi sthan, 2H is his

unearned/inherited income and 5H is his gains to be invested in 8H. The

pattern is very obvious. The pillars of Kendra houses give results in

panphars of 2/5/8/11 which make this cycle go. 1-7 axis of two selves with

their respective karmas in 4-10 axis make this merry-go-round. Thus, in a

relationship, obviously, one's income becomes other's gain.

* LL and 7L are never natural friends but between them they have to

make this merry-go-round go. What we need to see in the charts is whether

this relationship is symbiotic, parasitic, complementary or supplementary.

Hope I have been able to convey what I mean. Or I leave it to the learned

members to ponder over this.

 

Regards

Neelam

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