Lagna Navamsa Series (Aries Lagna)

August 3, 2008

Dear Sreenadhji,I'll try to compile and post it tonight.RegardsNeelam2008/8/3 Sreenadh <sreesog

Dear All, Similar to the series " Lagna Lord in Various Houses " , I would like to start a new series with the name " Lagna Navamsa in Various Houses " . Let us start with Aries Lagna. So the question becomes - " 'What are the various results to predict for Lagna Navamsa in various houses for Aries Lagna? " . I hope that this exercise may give us some understanding on 'How to predict with Navamsa?'

I request you to be specific and to the point - please leave-out the general results that can be predicted for Aries Lagna (this we have already covered in another exercise) and be specific about the results generated by the Navamsa placement. That is, we assume the native took birth within the following degrees for the 9 combinations under consideration -

1) Aries Lagna Aries Navamsa (0.00 - 3.20) 2) Aries Lagna Taurus Navamsa (3.20 - 6.40) 3) Aries Lagna Gemini Navamsa (6.40 - 10.00) 4) Aries Lagna Cancer Navamsa (10.00 - 13.20)

5) Aries Lagna Leo Navamsa (13.20 - 16.40)

6) Aries Lagna Virgo Navamsa (16.40 - 20.00) 7) Aries Lagna Libra Navamsa (20.00 - 23.20)

8) Aries Lagna Scorpio Navamsa (23.20 - 26.40)

9) Aries Lagna Sagetterious Navamsa (26.40 - 30.00) That means we are going to discuss the Aries Lagna Native in detail. What would be difference between the destiny of these individuals? What are the different results to be predicted for them? How much does it match with the reality? (Quotes may not be good enough when reality is in question)

I hope you will enjoy this series. ;=) I request Neelam ji to start the discussion with an informative base note about the same quoting the classics. Note: Once the theoretical discussion round is over, we will verify the derived results with Aries Lagna charts with various navamsas.

Love and reagrds,Sreenadh

August 3, 2008

Dear Sreenadhji and group,Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.

As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced, are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of navamsha risings or positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.

Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.

I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.

While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the results.Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per Saravali

First Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.

Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess weak legs.

Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion, will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible, short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be bereft of co-born and emaciated

Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore face, fat body and coarse hair.Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,

be timid and garrulous.Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be malicious and will have a broad physique.

Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.

Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse, will possess many names and be crooked.General results of the nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara

(An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving the results here for general reference)Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful, bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of age.

Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th, 23rd, or 72nd year of age.

Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded, proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about women, very intelligent and will have no wife. Death can be expected in either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.

Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd, or 80th year.

Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected, will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of age

Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth

Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of age

Scorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about longevity

Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked, lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th, or 72nd year of age

Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th, 49th and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages.

Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied, a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life.

Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied, scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring evils to a native

Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the results of navamshas of different planets which are given below:(For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).

Navamsha of MarsHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes, somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious, skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.

Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious

Navamsha of Venus Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes, soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in complexion, will have an attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous, fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.

Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in his aims, enthusiastic.Navamsha of Mercury

Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.

Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.Moon NavamshaHora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold. Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and dresses attractively.

Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned, rich in cattle.Sun NavamshaHora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts, interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited sons.

Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustfulNavamsha of JupiterHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion; will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms, with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a mellifluous voice.

Jatak Parijat: will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful, clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by emperors.Navamsha of SaturnHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful, irreligious and will have limited wealth.

Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted with ailments.Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different nativities.RegardsNeelam

August 4, 2008

Namaste Madam ji,

Yes, the navamsa and nakshatra-padas have close relation. For timing

events, nakshatra tracking has been giving excellent results. Case

studies of Sri Varahamihira...when he predicted the Prince's death.....

event which happened under watch eyes of king's court, according to one

side of a " story " in between the commentary of ongoing, he confirmed

the death as the transitory planet moved into a nakshatra pada.....

May be on genuine reason to include it in the daily panchang i.e.

nakshatra movement/times than amsa positions or tables..etc..

Though we have been using 22nd Drekana & 64th Navamsa Lordship planets

to cause death or major events, actual timing seem to be coming from the

transiting of nakshatra of those lords or 8HL or navamsa dispositors of

8HL.

I have not been able to conclude on this as a method or technique, but

based on my own studies, sharing it. { I have used events happening

22nd drekana & 64th navamsa dispositors nakshatra - transits -

considered for each House to match with actual events}.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

August 4, 2008

Dear Neelam ji,

First let me thank you for comprehensive post covering every aspect of Navamsha position of an Aries Lagna native. Please find the principles you have mentioned being checked with an Aries native + Virgo Navamsha and see how far the contents are appicable/not.

1. In anciSixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch, be timid and garrulous.

The native is not dark in complexion but very fair. Not very tall. Small eyes..not akin to that of a deer. Not euncuh, not timid and garrulous.

2.Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth

Yes..can say he was happy in his boyhood; some knowledge of arts..possible; not impotent..he has chidren of his own; not thievish but probably may lie occassionally; only 1 son...but nowadays everything is controlled; fortunate - this of course varies for all ...but yet ..in a general sense I can say he is fortunate; liberal -yes quite; has lived in foreign places -yes not recently- but travelled quite a bit; Longevity yet to see...as he is only 54 years now.

3. Navamsha of MercuryHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.

He is fair bodied...I've already mentioned it;broad chested -yes; curly hair - yes; skilful in trade - yes; courageous - yes; wealthy - yes; happy - this is a factor which varies in the course of life depending on prevailing situations; endowed with an excellent female -yes; he loves to collect oranaments and also to dress well;

Liberal -yes; impassioned - can express ideas strongly..if that is what's meant here; can be said he is somewhat handsome..though may be not to my taste; Yes, quite well known and has a good name and also a bad name....among certain sections.

I hope others will come up with different navamshas of Aries natives or the same navamsha but with different attributes other than which I have mentioned.

blessings

Renu

ent_indian_astrology , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadhji and group,> > Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the> navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha> coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.> > As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding> navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced,> are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.> > Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of navamsha risings or> positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha> lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.> > Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the> nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised> picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat> discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.> > I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries> nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora> Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.> > *While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the> results.*> > Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per> Saravali> > First Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat,> with nose and shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce> voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from> defects.> > Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad> shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight> and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess> weak legs.> > Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion,> will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a> scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh> > Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible,> short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be> bereft of co-born and emaciated> > Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that> of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore face, fat body> and coarse hair.> > Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition,> will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have> irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,> be timid and garrulous.> > Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be> fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be> malicious and will have a broad physique.> > Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a> good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret> diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.> > Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have> defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse,> will possess many names and be crooked.> > General results of the nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara> (An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving> the results here for general reference)> > Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful,> bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will> confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of> age.> > Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big> stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have> moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many> daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th,> 23rd, or 72nd year of age.> > Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded,> proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about> women, very intelligent and will have no wife. Death can be expected in> either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.> > Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be> wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign> countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own> men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd,> or 80th year.> > Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected,> will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will> have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should> be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of age> > Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be> impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works,> liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about> life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live> up to 108, with progressing wealth> > Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an> emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his> relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in> his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of> age> > Scorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak> sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round> bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about> longevity> > Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked,> lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will> talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or> sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th, or 72nd year of age> > Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less> bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th,> 49th and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages.> > Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied,> a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age> of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life.> > Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live> through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied,> scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess> many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or> the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring> evils to a native> > Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the results of navamshas of> different planets which are given below:> (For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the> results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).> > Navamsha of Mars> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes,> somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased> nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious,> skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will> be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.> Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering> habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious> > Navamsha of Venus> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes,> soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in> complexion, will have an attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous,> fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.> Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in> his aims, enthusiastic.> > Navamsha of Mercury> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have> roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming> teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous,> wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and> ornaments.> Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his> learning and has a good name.> > Moon Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold.> Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in> respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and> dresses attractively.> Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned,> rich in cattle.> > Sun Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical> body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts,> interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish> complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited> sons.> Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustful> > Navamsha of Jupiter> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion;> will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the> brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms,> with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of> guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a> mellifluous voice.> Jatak Parijat: will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful,> clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by> emperors.> > Navamsha of Saturn> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical> splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be> independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful,> irreligious and will have limited wealth.> Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted> with ailments.> > Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different> nativities.> > Regards> Neelam>

August 4, 2008

Dear Renu ji,Thank you for testing the principles. That was a great job. I would request others also to check the applicability of these tenets.We cannot expect to match all the traits... a lot will also depend on the other influences on lagna/LL. Even the prevailing dashas have an impact on personality. I have seen new and different personalities emerging in different dashas.

RegardsNeelam2008/8/4 renunw <renunw

Dear Neelam ji,

First let me thank you for comprehensive post covering every aspect of Navamsha position of an Aries Lagna native. Please find the principles you have mentioned being checked with an Aries native + Virgo Navamsha and see how far the contents are appicable/not.

1. In anciSixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch, be timid and garrulous.

The native is not dark in complexion but very fair. Not very tall. Small eyes..not akin to that of a deer. Not euncuh, not timid and garrulous.

2.Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth

Yes..can say he was happy in his boyhood; some knowledge of arts..possible; not impotent..he has chidren of his own; not thievish but probably may lie occassionally; only 1 son...but nowadays everything is controlled; fortunate - this of course varies for all ...but yet ..in a general sense I can say he is fortunate; liberal -yes quite; has lived in foreign places -yes not recently- but travelled quite a bit; Longevity yet to see...as he is only 54 years now.

3. Navamsha of MercuryHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.

Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.

He is fair bodied...I've already mentioned it;broad chested -yes; curly hair - yes; skilful in trade - yes; courageous - yes; wealthy - yes; happy - this is a factor which varies in the course of life depending on prevailing situations; endowed with an excellent female -yes; he loves to collect oranaments and also to dress well;

Liberal -yes; impassioned - can express ideas strongly..if that is what's meant here; can be said he is somewhat handsome..though may be not to my taste; Yes, quite well known and has a good name and also a bad name....among certain sections.

I hope others will come up with different navamshas of Aries natives or the same navamsha but with different attributes other than which I have mentioned.

blessings

Renu

ent_indian_astrology , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>> Dear Sreenadhji and group,> > Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the> navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha> coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.

> > As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding> navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced,> are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.

> > Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of navamsha risings or> positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha> lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.

> > Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the> nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised> picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat

> discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.> > I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries> nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora

> Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.> > *While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the> results.*> > Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per

> Saravali> > First Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat,> with nose and shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce> voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from

> defects.> > Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad> shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight> and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess

> weak legs.> > Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion,> will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a> scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh

> > Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible,> short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be> bereft of co-born and emaciated> > Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that

> of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore face, fat body> and coarse hair.> > Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition,> will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have

> irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,> be timid and garrulous.> > Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be> fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be

> malicious and will have a broad physique.> > Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a> good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret

> diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.> > Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have> defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse,

> will possess many names and be crooked.> > General results of the nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara> (An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving

> the results here for general reference)> > Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful,> bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will

> confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of> age.> > Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big> stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have

> moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many> daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th,> 23rd, or 72nd year of age.> > Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded,

> proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about> women, very intelligent and will have no wife. Death can be expected in> either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.

> > Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be> wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign> countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own

> men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd,> or 80th year.> > Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected,> will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will

> have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should> be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of age> > Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be

> impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works,> liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about> life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live

> up to 108, with progressing wealth> > Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an> emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his> relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in

> his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of> age> > Scorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak> sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round

> bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about> longevity> > Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked,> lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will

> talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or> sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th, or 72nd year of age> > Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less

> bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th,> 49th and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages.> > Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied,

> a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age> of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life.> > Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live

> through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied,> scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess> many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or

> the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring> evils to a native> > Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the results of navamshas of> different planets which are given below:

> (For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the> results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).> > Navamsha of Mars> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes,

> somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased> nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious,> skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will

> be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.> Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering> habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious> > Navamsha of Venus

> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes,> soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in> complexion, will have an attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous,

> fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.> Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in> his aims, enthusiastic.> > Navamsha of Mercury

> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have> roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming> teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous,

> wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and> ornaments.> Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his> learning and has a good name.>

> Moon Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold.> Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in> respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and

> dresses attractively.> Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned,> rich in cattle.> > Sun Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical

> body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts,> interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish> complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited

> sons.> Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustful> > Navamsha of Jupiter> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion;> will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the

> brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms,> with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of> guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a

> mellifluous voice.> Jatak Parijat: will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful,> clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by> emperors.> > Navamsha of Saturn

> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical> splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be> independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful,

> irreligious and will have limited wealth.> Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted> with ailments.> > Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different

> nativities.> > Regards> Neelam>

August 4, 2008

Dear Hardeep ji, Please don't divert the discussion and be patient. What Neelam ji did is - "providing the initial info to discuss various navamsas of Aries"; it is only a start and NOT an end. We have a long way to go even to understand the proper use of Aries Navamsas in prediction/result derivation. We appreciate you request, but all the other 'houses and planets' (actually you are totally wrong here. what we are discussing is NOT houses and planets, but the various navamsas of a single sign, i.e. aries) will not be touched upon as of now. I request you to be patient and understand what we are discussing and and why we are discussing the same. Love and regards,Sreenadh , hardeep singh <bkhardeep wrote:>> hi neelam,> ?> good job.> ?> would you please contribute for all houses and planets ?> ?> regards> hs nagi> > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote:> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 Re: Lagna Navamsa Series (Aries Lagna)> > Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:44 AM> > Dear Sreenadhji and group,> > Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.> > As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced, are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.> > Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of navamsha risings or positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.> > Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.> > I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.> > While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the results.> > Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per Saravali> > First Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.> > Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess weak legs.> > Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion, will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh?> > Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible, short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be bereft of co-born and emaciated?> > Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore face, fat body and coarse hair.> > Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,> be timid and garrulous.> > Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be malicious and will have a broad physique.> > Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.> > Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse, will possess many names and be crooked.> > General results of the nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara> (An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving the results here for general reference)> > Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful, bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of age.> > Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th, 23rd, or 72nd year of age.> > Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded, proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about women, very intelligent and will have no wife. Death can be expected in either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.> > Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd, or 80th year.?> > Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected, will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of age> > Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth> ?> Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of age> > Scorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about longevity> ?> Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked, lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th, or 72nd year of age?> > Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th, 49th ?and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages.?> > Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied, a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life.?> > Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied, scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring evils to a native> > Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the results of navamshas of different planets which are given below:> (For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).> > Navamsha of Mars> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes, somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious, skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.> Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious> ?> Navamsha of Venus> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes, soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in complexion, will have an attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous, fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.> Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in his aims, enthusiastic.> > Navamsha of Mercury> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.> Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.> > Moon Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold. Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and dresses attractively.> Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned, rich in cattle.> > Sun Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts, interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited sons.> Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustful> > Navamsha of Jupiter> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion; will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms, with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a mellifluous voice.> Jatak Parijat: will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful, clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by emperors.> > Navamsha of Saturn> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful, irreligious and will have limited wealth.> Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted with ailments.> > Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different nativities.> > Regards> Neelam>

August 4, 2008

dear sreenadh ji,

thanks,

i will wait for further discussions. i am keen to learn traditional astrology, but till now i dont have much knowledge about it.

regards

hs nagi--- On Sun, 8/3/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Lagna Navamsa Series (Aries Lagna) Date: Sunday, August 3, 2008, 10:20 PM

Dear Hardeep ji, Please don't divert the discussion and be patient. What Neelam ji did is - "providing the initial info to discuss various navamsas of Aries"; it is only a start and NOT an end. We have a long way to go even to understand the proper use of Aries Navamsas in prediction/result derivation. We appreciate you request, but all the other 'houses and planets' (actually you are totally wrong here. what we are discussing is NOT houses and planets, but the various navamsas of a single sign, i.e. aries) will not be touched upon as of now. I request you to be patient and understand what we are discussing and and why we are discussing the same. Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, hardeep singh <bkhardeep@.. .> wrote:>> hi neelam,> ?> good job.>

?> would you please contribute for all houses and planets ?> ?> regards> hs nagi> > --- On Sun, 8/3/08, neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ... wrote:> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ ...> Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Lagna Navamsa Series (Aries Lagna)> ancient_indian_ astrology> Sunday, August 3, 2008, 11:44 AM> > Dear Sreenadhji and group,> > Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.> > As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced, are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.> > Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of

navamsha risings or positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.> > Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.> > I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.> > While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the results.> > Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per Saravali> > First Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and

shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.> > Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess weak legs.> > Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion, will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh?> > Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible, short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be bereft of co-born and emaciated?> > Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore

face, fat body and coarse hair.> > Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,> be timid and garrulous.> > Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be malicious and will have a broad physique.> > Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.> > Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse, will possess many names and be crooked.> > General results of the

nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara> (An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving the results here for general reference)> > Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful, bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of age.> > Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th, 23rd, or 72nd year of age.> > Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded, proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about women, very intelligent and will have no wife.

Death can be expected in either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.> > Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd, or 80th year.?> > Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected, will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of age> > Virgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will

be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth> ?> Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of age> > Scorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about longevity> ?> Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked, lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th,

or 72nd year of age?> > Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th, 49th ?and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages.?> > Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied, a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life.?> > Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied, scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring evils to a native> > Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the

results of navamshas of different planets which are given below:> (For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).> > Navamsha of Mars> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes, somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious, skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.> Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious> ?> Navamsha of Venus> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes, soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in complexion, will have an

attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous, fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.> Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in his aims, enthusiastic.> > Navamsha of Mercury> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.> Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.> > Moon Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold. Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and dresses attractively.>

Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned, rich in cattle.> > Sun Navamsha> Hora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts, interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited sons.> Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustful> > Navamsha of Jupiter> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion; will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms, with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a mellifluous voice.> Jatak Parijat:

will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful, clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by emperors.> > Navamsha of Saturn> Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful, irreligious and will have limited wealth.> Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted with ailments.> > Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different nativities.> > Regards> Neelam>

August 4, 2008

Dear Neelam ji, That was a excellent job well done! Wonderful!!! I will try to do my part of the job later by - 1) Providing a systematic approach to interpretation 2) Providing the quotes you referred, along with interpretation; and discussion of various readings. 3) Providing other view points and classics approved techniques that can be used. 4) Other things that can be predicted in various contexts. I will try to use your detailed document to the maximum, possibly when I complete this share of my work, much creadit for the same would belong to your hard efforts as well - I belive. Let us wait and see how my document turns out to be. Note: May be we should think of writing a systematic book on this subject (i.e Navamsa) together. Just joking - it is not an easy task since it demands a lot of hard work and free time. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:

Re: Lagna Navamsa Series (Aries Lagna)

Dear Sreenadhji and group,Navamsha is a link between the signs and the asterisms. Although, the navamshas are named after the signs (Aries, Taurus, etc.), each navamsha coincides with one of the four padas of the nakshatra.As we all know, classics and traditional texts are not very clear regarding navamsha results, thus many astrologers, especially new and inexperienced, are deprived of tapping into this gold mine.Even BPHS has not given any results on the basis of navamsha risings or positions. There is only mention of vargeeya bal and results from karkamsha lagna, as far as navamsha is concerned.Saravali is most eloquent about this issue and has given results for all the nine navamshas for all rashis separately. Hora Sara gives a generalised picture of nine navamshas falling in any sign. Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat discuss the navamsha results as per lordships.I have tried to collate here some results of different navamshas for Aries nativity as per Kalyan Verma's Saravali, Hora Sara by Prithyusas, Hora Ratnam by Acharya Balabhadra and Jataka Parijatam by Vaidyanatha Deekshit.While applying, we may try different combinations and check out the results.Effects of different navamsha rising specifically for Aries Ascendant as per SaravaliFirst Navamsa: The native will have a face, resembling that of a he-goat, with nose and shoulders not being very prominent. He will have a fierce voice, ugly appearance and narrow eyes. His body will be thin, but free from defects.Second Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, will have broad shoulders and long arms. small forehead, strong collar bones, sharp sight and prominent face and nose. He will be an affable speaker and will possess weak legs.Third Navamsa: The native will suffer loss of hair, be fair in complexion, will have irregular (defective) arms, charming eyes and nose, will be a scholar in direct poetic ability and will have weak thigh Fourth Navamsa: The native will have an erratic sight, be irascible, short-nosed, wandering-natured, will have rough legs and coarse hair, be bereft of co-born and emaciated Fifth Navamsa: The native will be fierce and will have eyes, resembling that of a supreme elephant, a fat nose, thick eye brows, wide fore face, fat body and coarse hair.Sixth Navamsa: The native will be dark in complexion, soft in disposition, will have eyes, akin to that of a deer, be tall in stature, will have irregular (defective) stomach and hands, be a eunuch,be timid and garrulous.Seventh Navamsa: The native will have complexion akin to green sprout, be fickle-minded, will possess white eyes, will marry an unchaste lady, be malicious and will have a broad physique.Eighth Navamsa: The native will have a face, akin to that of a monkey, be a good speaker, will have an afflicted and tawny body, will suffer from secret diseases, be torturous, be a liar, be fond of friends and be fierce.Ninth Navamsa: The native will be tall, emaciated, wandering, will have defective fore face and ears, will have a face, akin to that of a horse, will possess many names and be crooked.General results of the nine navamshas irrespective of lagna as per Hora Sara(An aries lagna cannot get makar, dhanu and meen navamsh, but I am giving the results here for general reference)Aries Navamsh will be mischievous, mean, will be weak sighted, not peaceful, bilious in temperament and sensuously disposed. Birth in Mesh Amsh will confer malefic results, or diseases in the 12th, 25th, 50th, or 65th year of age.Taurus Navamsh: will be wise, will enjoy pleasures and will have a big stomach. He will be strong, long-faced, will walk awkwardly, will have moving eye-balls (from one side to the other) and will possess many daughters. Difficulties and diseases can be expected in the 22nd, 10th, 23rd, or 72nd year of age.Gemini Navamsh: one will be brilliant in appearance, eloquent, fickleminded, proficient in Shastras, will enjoy pleasures, be modest, be unsteady about women, very intelligent and will have no wife. Death can be expected in either the 16th year, or the 24th, 34th, 63rd, or the 40th year.Cancer Navamsh: will be angrily disposed, will have grotesque body, be wealthy, will possess crooked sight, will be intent on living in foreign countries. will help his relatives and be emotionally influenced by his own men. Death can be expected in either the 18th, or the 8th, 22nd, 21st, 72nd, or 80th year. Leo Navamsh: at birth will live in a manless zone, be very self-respected, will have thin belly, will have knowledge of everything in the world, will have weak teeth, be strong and will be aggrieved. Mentionable evils should be expected in the 20th year, 10th year, 30th year, or the 60th year of ageVirgo Navamsh: will be happy in his boyhood, will have knowledge of arts, be impotent, thievish, have few sons, be fortunate, attached to others' works, liberal and intent on living in foreign places. There will be doubt about life in his 60th year, or 20th year, or the 5th year. He will, however, live up to 108, with progressing wealth Libra Navamsh: will like to move from one place to the other, will have an emaciated body, will not have many sons, be a miser, will hate his relatives, suffer from phlegmatic diseases and be poor. Evils shall occur in his 3rd year, 23rd year, 46th year, 27th year, 38th year and 76th year of ageScorpio Navamsh: will not have his elders, be mischievous, wise, weak sighted, cruel, will indulge in sinful acts secretly, long-bodied and round bellied. His 18th, 23rd, 13th, 70th, or the 55th year will be doubtful about longevity Sagittarius Navamsh: will have self-earned money, be virtuous, longnecked, lazy and be satisfied with anything small. He will have a big nose, will talk much and be lord of wealth. There will be danger to his life, or sickness in this 16th, 9th, 4th, 36th, or 72nd year of age Capricorn Navamsh: will be short bodied, fickle-minded, mischievous, less bold, unfortunate in regard to wife and enjoy greatly. His 19th, 27th, 34th, 49th and 68th years of age will bring diseases. So have said the sages. Aquarius Navamsh: will be slanderous, not kind, cunning, weak, long-bodied, a wanderer, always troubled by expenses and mentally depressed. At the age of 14, 20, 28, 32, 61, or 7, there will be doubt about his life. Pisces Navamsh: will be after women, will have an emaciated body, will live through water (i.e. profession related to water), will be fish bellied, scholarly and will live in others' houses. He will be wealthy and possess many wives. Death can be expected in his 10th, 12th, 21st, 26th, 52nd, or the 61st year of age. 59th year, 32nd year and the 8th year shall bring evils to a native Hora Ratnam and Jatak Parijat have given the results of navamshas of different planets which are given below:(For aries lagna, we don't get saturn's navamsh. I have, however given the results for Saturn's navamsh just to make the note complete).Navamsha of MarsHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mars will have brown hair, round eyes, somewhat depressed back, fair in complexion, will have ugly or diseased nails, a scarred body and will be lustful. he will be wicked, envious, skilful in usurping the aaquisitions of females and less righteous. He will be happy, cruel, a destroyer of foes and very miserly.Jatak Parijat: Addicted to cruel deeds, be fickle minded, of wandering habits, afflicted with bilious complaints and avaricious Navamsha of Venus Hora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of venus will have downward looking eyes, soft hair, attractive form, well-shaped neck. He will be impatient, dark in complexion, will have an attractive navel, be heroic, wealthy, virtuous, fond of poetry, happy with t=robes, decorations and likes flowers.Jatak Parijat: Takes delight in the company of women not his own, firm in his aims, enthusiastic.Navamsha of MercuryHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Mercury will be dark bodied, will have roving eyes, an even body, a broad chest, long and curly hair and charming teeth and waist. He will be short-lived, skilful in trade, courageous, wealthy, happy and endowed with an excellent female, robes, garlands and ornaments.Jatak Parijat: Liberal, impassioned, handsome and well-known for his learning and has a good name.Moon NavamshaHora Ratnam: One born in Moon Navamsha will reflect the brilliance of gold. Average height, broad body, thick hair, charming eyes, be complete in respect of wealth, be righteos, virtuous, fond of bodily pleasures and dresses attractively.Jatak Parijat: Voluptuous, addicted to young women not his own, learned, rich in cattle.Sun NavamshaHora Ratnam: One born in Leo Navamsha will have long curly hair, symmetrical body, fair complexion, profound and splendorous, skilful in sexual acts, interested in sinful deeds, valorous, unstable wealth, fair-reddish complexion, righteous, happy, cruel, will destroy foes and will have limited sons.Jatak Parijat: evil minded, strong, prolific, rich, tawny-eyed and lustfulNavamsha of JupiterHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Jupiter will be dark in complexion; will have a lotus shaped belly, attractive face with eyes reflecting the brilliance of a blue lili. He will have attractive hair, very soft palms, with superior lines. He will possess intelligence of high order, be fond of guests, highly virtuous, valorous, fond of women, wealthy and will have a mellifluous voice.Jatak Parijat: will have golden hair, will be eminent, talented, beautiful, clever in counsel, speaking learnedly, of a cheerful mind and liked by emperors.Navamsha of SaturnHora Ratnam: One born in Navamsha of Saturn will be bereft of physical splendour, will have grey hair, emaciated and dark body, soft eyes, will be independent. He will be completer with numerous virtues, be sinful, irreligious and will have limited wealth.Jatak Parijat: will be evil-minded, indigent, with large teeth, afflicted with ailments.Hope you all will find this information useful to apply on different nativities.RegardsNeelam

August 4, 2008

Dear Sreenadhji,Thank you. And I hope many members would come forward in testing these classic dictums.//May be we should think

of writing a systematic book on this subject (i.e Navamsa) together.

Just joking - it is not an easy task since it demands a lot of hard

work and free time. :)May be we should think

of writing a systematic book on this subject (i.e Navamsa) together.

Just joking - it is not an easy task since it demands a lot of hard

work and free time. :)//Well, it is not a joke. In fact a good idea, and one day I hope to have a lot of free time, and pray to God to grant me the ability to work hard then. Though every astrologer these days is coming up with not one or two, but a series of books, and thus we are churning out astrological literature by the tonnes, most of the work is repetitive and substandard. I hope we can come up with some original ideas and thoughts to put the things in the right perspective. Ultimately, it should not remain in theory, but could be put into practice to enhance our predictive ability.

RegardsNeelam2008/8/4 Sreenadh <sreesog

Dear Neelam ji, That was a excellent job well done! Wonderful!!! I will try to do my part of the job later by - 1) Providing a systematic approach to interpretation

2) Providing the quotes you referred, along with interpretation; and discussion of various readings. 3) Providing other view points and classics approved techniques that can be used. 4) Other things that can be predicted in various contexts.

I will try to use your detailed document to the maximum, possibly when I complete this share of my work, much creadit for the same would belong to your hard efforts as well - I belive. Let us wait and see how my document turns out to be.

Note: May be we should think of writing a systematic book on this subject (i.e Navamsa) together. Just joking - it is not an easy task since it demands a lot of hard work and free time. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh

, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: