Re:LL_in_Different_Amsa_Taurus/Neelam ji, pls check

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Dear Shivam ji,

You are right. As you pointed out -

* For Aries, Leo, Sagittarius 2nd Navamsa falls in Taurus.

* For Taurus, Virgo, Capricorn 5th Navamsa falls in

Taurus.

* For Gemini, Libra, Aquarius 8th Navamsa falls in Taurus.

You are absolutely right. This prompts me to point out

that, The Chart prepared by Neelam ji is wrong; Yes, I could see that,

you are also hinting at the same. It must be a typo of Neelam ji, which she

must have identified by now.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh , "Shivam Omar" <oshivam wrote:>> Dear Neelam Ji and Group,> > I am a beginner in jyotish. As per my little knowledge goes for Mars in> Taurus,Virgo and Capricon, 5th Navamansh should be the Taurus Navamansh in> the Navamansh Chart, assuming virgottama lagna(Aries). Please correct me if> I got it wrongly.> > Thanks,> Shivam> > On 7/31/08, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji and group,> >> > I am prepared to try and give my reasoning for the effects you've> > mentioned. Let it be a mending exercise for my oversight.> >> > First of all, we must understand the following table which gives tula> > navamsh degrees in different signs.> >> > *Sign*> >> > *Degrees*> >> > *House in natal chart*> >> > *Which navamsh*> >> > * *> >> > *Aries*> >> > *3.20-6.40*> >> > *lagna*> >> > *2nd*> >> > * *> >> > *Tau*> >> > *13.20-16.40*> >> > *2nd*> >> > *6th*> >> > * *> >> > *Gem*> >> > *23.20-26.40*> >> > *3rd*> >> > *8th*> >> > * *> >> > *Can*> >> > * *> >> >> >> > *Leo*> >> > *3.20-6.40*> >> > *5th*> >> > *2nd*> >> > * *> >> > *Vir*> >> > *13.20-16.40*> >> > *6th*> >> > *6th*> >> > * *> >> > *Lib*> >> > *23.20-26.40*> >> > *7th *> >> > *8th *> >> > * *> >> > *Sco*> >> > * *> >> >> >> > *Sag*> >> > *3.20-6.40*> >> > *9th*> >> > *2nd*> >> > * *> >> > *Cap*> >> > *13.20-16.40*> >> > *10th*> >> > *6th*> >> > * *> >> > *Aqu*> >> > *23.20-26.40*> >> > *11th*> >> > *8th*> >> > * *> >> > *Pis*> >> > * *> >> >> >> >> > When mars is in friendly signs and own sign, it falls in 2nd navamsh> >> > But in mercury's, venusian and saturn's signs it takes 6th and 8th> > navamshas> >> > And when in 4/8/12, mars does not get Taurus navamsh. (any special> > signification?)> >> >> > *I am giving below the reasons for mars in 2nd only. Other members can try> > to reason out other placements:*> >> > *//Mars in 2nd* , why would I talk of heart affliction?//> >> > - LL mars in Maraksthan> > - 8L mars in maraksthan> > - Goes to 6th navamsh of diseases> > - From 2H, it aspects 5H and leo> > - Vargottam navamsh, so same is repeated in navamsh.> > - I think it will also fall in virgo in dreshkan and leo in> > chaturthamsh.> >> > This is what I could think of quickly… but since mars is also LL, and if> > other afflictions are not there, or there are benefic aspects, this may not> > happen or may not be serious.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> >> > 2008/7/31 Bhaskar rajiventerprises >> >> Dear Neelamji and any group members,> >>> >> Please let me know in which book you will find the general info i have> >> given in my mail , which is absurd as per the general known principals of> >> a Lagna lord placed in various houses.> >>> >> I believe not in talking rubbish but in essence and and in methodical> >> study.> >>> >> before writing that mail, i had already drawn the navamsha table, and> >> checked at what degrees could any Planet get the navamsha of taurus, and how> >> would Mars function if it was placed there.> >>> >> Shri Sreeramji had not asked for the effects of Planets of Mars placed in> >> different houses in a Natal chart, as this is not a kindergarten class, so> >> there was no question of giving results for natal Chart.> >>> >> Check the results given by me. check a aries chart nativity, and you will> >> find similiar resuilts in his Life upto 70% of what I have mentioned if not> >> more. I dont talk in the air and am good at my job which I do. I also dont> >> waste time in talking general matters , but want to answer these 3 parts of> >> a query, rather than beating around the bush with nonsense generalisations,> >> which is the strength of those who do not study well.> >>> >> *my focus normally remains on-*> >>> >> 1) What will happen . 2) When it> >> will happen 3) How it will happen.> >>> >> *Rest talks i find " bakwaas ". *> >>> >> but now I want you to come out with the reasoning of what I wrote and> >> why . i assure you that it would be a superb enriching experience for you,> >> and you will not find this written in any book. After that I would like to> >> wish you goodbye.> >>> >> I will wait for your inputs on why i wrote those absurd results for mars> >> in various houses.> >>> >> regards,> >>> >> Bhaskar.> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> , "Bhaskar"> >> rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> >> >> >> >> > Dear. Neelamji ,> >> > Please allow me your reasoning to call my efforts as general info, in> >> > wake of the undermentioned - Mars in 2nd , why would i talk of heart> >> > afflection ? Mars in 3rd . Why would native go for foreign journeys> >> > when the 3rd house is meant only for short journeys ? Mars in 6th -> >> > How can mother die ? Mars in 10th - Why construction business ? Why> >> > loss in current business ? Mars in 11th - Why have I mentioned bad> >> > results when the lagna Lord in 11th is supposed to be good. You have a> >> > long way to go..........and would need help. regards, Bhaskar.> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > , "neelam gupta"> >> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > >> >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji,> >> > >> >> > > //I have committed a mistake by giving the results of 4th, 8th and> >> > 12th ,> >> > > which would not come in taurus navamsha.//> >> > >> >> > > You'd given only general results of placement of mars in different> >> > houses> >> > > for aries lagna. And also it was clarified by you at the outset that> >> > 4/8/12> >> > > mars will not get a taurus amsha. It didn't look like a mistake as it> >> > was a> >> > > general info for all placements.> >> > >> >> > > But it will be nice if you can elaborate and give us the following as> >> > per> >> > > the topic under discussion:> >> > >> >> > > 1. General results for mars if it goes to taurus navamsh (any house).> >> > As> >> > > we know mars has his own karkatwas, may be you can tell us how this> >> > mars> >> > > will generally behave when it falls in taurus navamsh, irrespective of> >> > its> >> > > placement.> >> > > 2. Specific house-wise results as you've given for natal chart. If you> >> > > can extend and derive some results that could be attributed to mars> >> > having> >> > > gone to taurus navamsh.> >> > > 3. Any other specific result when mars goes to taurus amsa.> >> > >> >> > > Regards> >> > > Neelam> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > >> >> > > 2008/7/30 Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> >> > >> >> > > > Dear group,> >> > > >> >> > > > I have committed a mistake by giving the results of 4th, 8th and> >> > 12th ,> >> > > > which would not come in taurus navamsha.> >> > > >> >> > > > you may please delete the same or not read it.> >> > > >> >> > > > But i am surprised that none of you pointed this to me, even after I> >> > > > mentioned that Mars if placed in these 3 houses cannot have taurus> >> > navamsha.> >> > > >> >> > > > Its 2 hours since i posted my previous post regarding the effects.> >> > This> >> > > > reveals the academic interest, and also tells me what happens when> >> > an hour> >> > > > is spent in writing about such matters.> >> > > >> >> > > > best wishes,> >> > > >> >> > > > bhaskar.> >> > > >> >> > > > * *> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > > > , "Bhaskar"> >> > > > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > Dear Group,> >> > > > > I am taking all the combinations possible for Aries Lagna, for> >> > Mars to> >> > > > > be in Taurus Navamsha in absence of specific data. First of all> >> > Mars> >> > > > > cannot go to Taurus navamsha if Mars is placed in the 4th, 8th and> >> > the> >> > > > > 12th house for a Aries Lagna nativity ( The learned may correct me> >> > if I> >> > > > > am wrong ). For the rest of the House the results as per my humble> >> > > > > judgement would be as under . Read as Mars placed in - 1st House> >> > > > > Good Longevity, Good health, but results subject to change by> >> > influence> >> > > > > of another planet. ( I will not mention this planet but leave it> >> > for the> >> > > > > members to figure it out ). 2nd House Not good for Mothers health> >> > or> >> > > > > Domestic bless. If Leo and sun is afflicted then the natives heart> >> > > > > would also be a problem after middle age. Mother can die during> >> > Mars> >> > > > > period. 3rd House Will go for foreign journeys and also be a> >> > > > > charitable philantthropic.There would be a lot of journeys and> >> > shifting> >> > > > > in this natives life. He would be good at communications. Father> >> > may die> >> > > > > during this period. 4th house Of course debilitated so figure out> >> > the> >> > > > > results. But again it may give good results too finally depending> >> > on> >> > > > > another planet. 5th house heart operation may become necessary for> >> > > > > this native. Would have losses and bad at speculations, lotteries> >> > or> >> > > > > the likes.Will not get support from first child. these Results too> >> > are> >> > > > > subject to change due to another planet. 6th house Will suffer> >> > > > > operation in this period of Mars antardasha. can earn good money> >> > through> >> > > > > insurance. Mother may die during this period or be hospitalised.> >> > 7th> >> > > > > house Wife may be froma distant place. The native will have many> >> > > > > overseas connections, laisons and tie-ups in profession. Will have> >> > > > > trouble in marriage compatibilities. 8th House A period of full> >> > > > > strifes and troubles. But good longevity. May get hurt in the> >> > head.> >> > > > > Again the results are subjevct to change due to influence of> >> > another> >> > > > > planet. 9th House Father may die during this period. bad for> >> > > > > education if mars antadasha comes at education age. will fail in> >> > exams.> >> > > > > Results subject to change here. 10th House May go for new business> >> > > > > related to land,property or construction. Current business would> >> > face> >> > > > > Loss. may have some scandal in profession if employed. 11th house> >> > May> >> > > > > suffer accident and land in hospital. total loss and a very bad> >> > time.> >> > > > > Also bad time for father. 12th house Total Loss in all spheres.> >> > May> >> > > > > become psychic. Hospitalised for long . Have to remain on bed. May> >> > have> >> > > > > to leave family too and go far away. jail. imprisonment. The above> >> > > > > results would manifest in antardasha of Mars . The above results> >> > can> >> > > > > also be expanded to further few more Lines connecting some more> >> > results.> >> > > > > I could have given generalisations, but this one may find in any> >> > book. i> >> > > > > like predictive astrology, and have attempted to do so above,> >> > though in> >> > > > > a hurry. One could add much more to the above. best wishes,> >> > Bhaskar.> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > > > , "sreeram> >> > srinivas"> >> > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > The answer would be more accurate if the following info. is also> >> > > > > given.> >> > > > > > -> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > 1) Which Lagna and degrees- so that we know which navamsa Lagna> >> > would> >> > > > > > fall, in order to check in which house the Taurus sign appears.> >> > > > > > Comment: For the starting let us start with Aries Lagna, Lagna> >> > Lord> >> > > > > > Mars in Taurus Amsa.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > 2) The lagna lord is placed where in the natal chart and its> >> > degrees.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Comment: Refer the above point. Ignore for a moment if such a> >> > > > > > combination is possible or not...ignore the nakshatra> >> > > > > > lords....etc..unless you want to make a strong astro point......> >> > just> >> > > > > > discuss on the main point...> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > regards,> >> > > > > >> >> > > > > > Bhaskar.> >> > > > > >> >> > > > >> >> > > >> >> > > >> >> > >> >> >> >>> >> > > >>