Baby didnt open eyes.

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Hare rama krishna

dear Kiran kumar ji ,

 

How u rate the family of this girl ?? wheter rich ,very rich ,aristoctatic ,pls giv some idea abt it .

 

also other senior memebr s may giv their opinion on it .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

, "chagantikiran" <chagantikiran wrote:>> Dear Astrologers,> > Yesterday one of my colleague had a new baby ,but she didnt open hers > eyes , so the doctrors examined and declared that the eyes didnt > developed and she is blind.so can anybody through soem light on this > subject whether it is true .i have given her data of birth details > below.> > DOB 09-07-2008> TIME 10: 05 AM > POB HYDERABAD> > > BEST REGARDS> CHANGATI KIRAN KUMAR>

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Dear Chagantikiran,

I am sorry to inform the members that as for as my knowledge of medical astrology goes, I examined the chart, Leo lagna, occupied by Saturn and Mars, 2nd by Moon, 5th by retrograde Jupiter, 6th by Rahu, 11th by Sun and Mercury, 12th by Ketu and Venus.The dasha running is Moon/,Mars/Moon. 22nd dreshkona is Moon occupied by Venus and Ket. 64th navamsha is again Moon occupied by Venus, Saturn and Mars. Jupiter is retrograde and aspects Sun and Jupiter is 8th lord. Rahu aspects Moon and Venus. Venus ia in between papa karatari yoga and so on. So the child is blind.S.C.Kursija9350227360---

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Dear Kursija ji,

I guess most of us

will be able to pick up the afflictions that seem to have caused blindness/harm

to eyes in this chart.

After your statements:

//I am sorry to inform

the members that as for as my knowledge of medical astrology goes, I

examined the chart, Leo lagna, occupied by Saturn and Mars, 2nd by Moon, 5th by

retrograde Jupiter, 6th by Rahu, 11th by Sun and Mercury, 12th by Ketu and

Venus. The dasha running is Moon/Mars/Moon. 22nd dreshkona is Moon occupied by

Venus and Ket. 64th navamsha is again Moon occupied by Venus, Saturn and Mars.

Jupiter is retrograde and aspects Sun and Jupiter is 8th lord. Rahu aspects

Moon and Venus. Venus in between papa karatari yoga and so on…..//

you have declared…

//So the child is blind//

My point is…

Can we say that with such

confidence? Could you have foretold this or said so in a blind chart.I know of another girl

child born on 9th July 2008/10.02 am/Delhi. All positions similar…

but the baby is ok and healthy. No problem with eyes.

I feel in this case

also, the afflictions are not enough to cause blindness. Blindness is caused

when 2H and 12H have extreme malefic influences and luminaries and venus are also

afflicted. I don't think luminaries are so weak here.

There might have been some

temporary problem which would be taken care of. Or if really the child is blind, we should

look for other more specific reasons through differences in these two charts.RegardsNeelam

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Hare Rama Krishna

dear Neelam ji

 

Thanks for the very good analysis on chart and also providing another mind boggling chart .Actualy u never fail to tickle grey cells of the grp .

 

As u said for the affliction of the eyes -2 and 12 th Lords and luminories and jala tatwa planets like moon and venus afflicted can show problems in eyes to blindness .

 

In the first chart 2nd house has moon with gulika and same gulika is having amsa sambantha with merc and sun ( mithuanamsa ) ,also venus with ketu .All the other planetary situations are same . So 2nd L ,moon ,venus and Lagna lord has malefic sambantha s , so this may b the reason i feel .( where as 2nd chart -delhi birth -gulika is in rishabamsa )

 

In the Hydrebad chart the Gulika is in 17 degrees 53 minits 14 seconds

where as delhi birth the gulika is in 16 degree 35 minits 41 seconds

( This is based on kerala gulika calculation those who has Jhora the calculation may b diffrnt ).

Also further dasa Levels also changes in both charts after Prathyantara .

but this delhi birth also can hav eye problems in future .

Now the question is when it can b cured and is the problem is acute ??

I think after 8 yrs 7 months Plus moon dasa the next dasa is Mars .who is supposed to b yogakaraka for Lagna and aspected by 5th Lord of merit of past birth jupiter who also aspecting lagna and 2nd Lord mercury ,so atleast a partial recovery can b possible .

The man who posted never replied my query on family back ground of this child ,this is the reason why i hate free reading requests ,they wanted us to do all work and may b expects miracles without even sweating the eye brow .just interested getting reading .For them those who sits in Road and those who toiled realy yrs in astrology is same .

Also the exmple chart provided by u ,u never mentioned the sex of the baby .as it can make a big diffrnce in faladesh .

 

Thanks and regrds

 

sunil nair

Om Shreem Mahalaxmai Namah.

 

 

 

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Kursija ji,> > I guess most of us will be able to pick up the afflictions that seem to have> caused blindness/harm to eyes in this chart.> > After your statements:> > //I am sorry to inform the members that as for as my knowledge of medical> astrology goes, I examined the chart, Leo lagna, occupied by Saturn and> Mars, 2nd by Moon, 5th by retrograde Jupiter, 6th by Rahu, 11th by Sun and> Mercury, 12th by Ketu and Venus. The dasha running is Moon/Mars/Moon. 22nd> dreshkona is Moon occupied by Venus and Ket. 64th navamsha is again Moon> occupied by Venus, Saturn and Mars. Jupiter is retrograde and aspects Sun> and Jupiter is 8th lord. Rahu aspects Moon and Venus. Venus in between papa> karatari yoga and so on…..//> > you have declared…> > //So the child is blind//> > My point is…> > Can we say that with such confidence? Could you have foretold this or said> so in a blind chart.> I know of another girl child born on 9th July 2008/10.02 am/Delhi. All> positions similar… but the baby is ok and healthy. No problem with eyes.> > I feel in this case also, the afflictions are not enough to cause blindness.> Blindness is caused when 2H and 12H have extreme malefic influences and> luminaries and venus are also afflicted. I don't think luminaries are so> weak here.> > There might have been some temporary problem which would be taken care of. Or> if really the child is blind, we should look for other more specific reasons> through differences in these two charts.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear all,

 

In newborns, vision problems are rare because they cannot see. Even

upto the age 4 months, everything appears blurred to them, that is

when slowly they start differentiating between colors. Hence, it is

not at all possible to tell that a newborn has healthy eyes.

 

The two charts do appear similar, venus is afflicted in both D-1 and

D-9. Some problems for the second baby is also not ruled out. In the

first chart, moon is also afflicted by Gulika, so maybe the problem

is more pronounced. As far as I know about the latest medical news,

doctors are concerned about cataracts in infants. If treated, can

prevent blindness.

 

Regards,

 

bhagavathi

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Kursija ji,

>

> I guess most of us will be able to pick up the afflictions that

seem to have

> caused blindness/harm to eyes in this chart.

>

> After your statements:

>

> //I am sorry to inform the members that as for as my knowledge of

medical

> astrology goes, I examined the chart, Leo lagna, occupied by Saturn

and

> Mars, 2nd by Moon, 5th by retrograde Jupiter, 6th by Rahu, 11th by

Sun and

> Mercury, 12th by Ketu and Venus. The dasha running is

Moon/Mars/Moon. 22nd

> dreshkona is Moon occupied by Venus and Ket. 64th navamsha is again

Moon

> occupied by Venus, Saturn and Mars. Jupiter is retrograde and

aspects Sun

> and Jupiter is 8th lord. Rahu aspects Moon and Venus. Venus in

between papa

> karatari yoga and so on…..//

>

> you have declared…

>

> //So the child is blind//

>

> My point is…

>

> Can we say that with such confidence? Could you have foretold this

or said

> so in a blind chart.

> I know of another girl child born on 9th July 2008/10.02 am/Delhi.

All

> positions similar… but the baby is ok and healthy. No problem with

eyes.

>

> I feel in this case also, the afflictions are not enough to cause

blindness.

> Blindness is caused when 2H and 12H have extreme malefic influences

and

> luminaries and venus are also afflicted. I don't think luminaries

are so

> weak here.

>

> There might have been some temporary problem which would be taken

care of. Or

> if really the child is blind, we should look for other more

specific reasons

> through differences in these two charts.

>

> Regards

> Neelam

>

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Dear Sunilji,Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier mail that it is a baby girl. Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its application. Each software gives it own calculations and there are several ways of calculating Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does give an important indication if right gulika is applied rightly. Can't we right a small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika calculation and apply it consistently in each chart. Which software are you using?

Then also, an important point was how to see the manifestation with a certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem. RegardsNeelam

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Hare rama krishna

dear neelam ji ,

 

I will write one of this days the gulika calculation manualy .i think may b in this grp archives also may be there .

 

its based on Nadika and day duration and nite durtion

 

we hav to take it in propotion to the place depending on place of birth .

 

so gilika rises on 26 nadika ,24 nadika upto 2 nadika frm sunday to sat day deduct 4 nadika daily .

 

Nite will b diffrnt ,sunday u take the 5th days day duration of gulika in nite .means 10 nadika ,monday 6 nadika ,tueday 2 nadika then wednesday 26 and reduce 4 each day .

 

but calculation will b diffrnt .

 

suppose delhi sun rise is 5.35 AM and sun set is 7.17 PM,convert into nadika ( ghatika ) and then devide by 30 and multiply by day rise gulik nadika

so sunday will b say 40 nadika is day duration or dina mana

so 40/30x26 like this

then we hav to add to rising degree or setting degrees depending on day or nite ,say one rasi is approx 5 nadika ,so u know .30 degree for 5nadika x 60( vinadika ) ,so 300 vinadikas for one rasi duration ,so one degree is 10 vinadikas .( one nadika is 24 minits and one vinadika is 24 secnds )

i will see the SW if the fellow made in english i will try to sent u .

Actualy we hav to see all nava dodhas,like visha ,ushna ghatika ,rahu kala ,and other tertiary planets while doing a chart for delination .Also we hav to use panchanga effectively and combine in to dasas and charts .Other wise a replica chart of budha ( if u hav ) may b a rogues chart these days ,tho all planets may b even in same degrees and rasis and chart is same .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

I will conct u tru prvt mail if the SW avilable in english .my version is malayalam only .So i even lost the manual calculation ability these days .

 

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,> > Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier mail that it is a> baby girl.> > Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its application. Each> software gives it own calculations and there are several ways of calculating> Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does give an> important indication if right gulika is applied rightly. Can't we right a> small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika calculation and apply> it consistently in each chart. Which software are you using?> > Then also, an important point was how to see the manifestation with a> certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem.> > Regards> Neelam>

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Dear kiran kumar.

 

Moon is the Lord of the left eye naturally.

In this chart , Moon is also the Lord of the 12th House.

The 12th house signifies denial to the attributes of

a house where placed.

But Moon by itself is not afflicted.

on the contrary Moon is in own Nalshatra Hastha, so strong.

That clears the Left eye.

 

The Sun is the Natural Lord of the right House.

In this chart The Sun is placed in the 11th house ,

which is a House of recovery from bad health,

or convalsecence. So The Sun is also not afflicted,

but in Nakshatra of Jupiter who is strongly placed

in the 5th. This eye may need some tome to recover.

 

The 2nd House in this chart is owned by mercury, who

is seated strong in its own other House, Virgo

and much away from the Sun to form any affliction.

Budh is again placed in nakshatra of Mars.

I dont see any problem here too.

 

In this chart, neither is Sun afflicted, neither Moon,

and neither the Lords of the 2nd or the 12th.

So blindness must mandatorily be not there.

 

But due to Moon- Rahu MD and antar respectively,

which both signify the 6th and the 12th houses

prominently, which show delicate health and

hospitalisation, this seems to be temporary

problem.

 

If not before, then in any case, the baby should be

okay before 7th September 2008. But there are chances

he could be okay even before tonight.

 

Please keep us posted on a positive development.

 

regards,

Bhaskar.

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Please re-read-

//The 12th house signifies denial to the

attributes of a house where placed.//

as -

//The 12th house LORD signifies denial

to the attributes of a house where placed.///

 

rgrds/Bhaskar.

 

 

 

 

 

, " Bhaskar "

<bhaskar_jyotish wrote:

>

> Dear kiran kumar.

>

> Moon is the Lord of the left eye naturally.

> In this chart , Moon is also the Lord of the 12th House.

> The 12th house signifies denial to the attributes of

> a house where placed.

> But Moon by itself is not afflicted.

> on the contrary Moon is in own Nalshatra Hastha, so strong.

> That clears the Left eye.

>

> The Sun is the Natural Lord of the right House.

> In this chart The Sun is placed in the 11th house ,

> which is a House of recovery from bad health,

> or convalsecence. So The Sun is also not afflicted,

> but in Nakshatra of Jupiter who is strongly placed

> in the 5th. This eye may need some tome to recover.

>

> The 2nd House in this chart is owned by mercury, who

> is seated strong in its own other House, Virgo

> and much away from the Sun to form any affliction.

> Budh is again placed in nakshatra of Mars.

> I dont see any problem here too.

>

> In this chart, neither is Sun afflicted, neither Moon,

> and neither the Lords of the 2nd or the 12th.

> So blindness must mandatorily be not there.

>

> But due to Moon- Rahu MD and antar respectively,

> which both signify the 6th and the 12th houses

> prominently, which show delicate health and

> hospitalisation, this seems to be temporary

> problem.

>

> If not before, then in any case, the baby should be

> okay before 7th September 2008. But there are chances

> he could be okay even before tonight.

>

> Please keep us posted on a positive development.

>

> regards,

> Bhaskar.

>

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Respected members and Neelam Ji,

Sorry for late reply as I am always engaged on Friday, Saturday and Sunday,

I have gone through all the posts including post of Basakar ji today. I pray to God Basakar ji may be right.

I have clearly said that "as for as my knowledge goes...." So I do not claim my supremacy over others or absolute knowledge. Others may be knowing and having experience much more than me.

Any one who know the astrology must be knowing the yoga of affliction to eye as you know. It is good to have hunger for knowledge.

For the first chart the dasha running is Moon/Rahu/Rahu. Rahu is posited in 6th house. i.e. Roga karaka. You have quoted 2nd chart in enthusiasm who is running dasha of Moon/Mars. Mars is yoga karaka planet.

The yoga may be there, but their results will be activated only during their dasha and antar dasha. I feel it is defferece between he two charts.

Only the dasha and antar dasha indicated the result to me. The other astrologers have not taken notice of that.

I also pray to the Almighty god for her well being and good health.

regards.

S.C.Kursija9350227360--- On Sat, 7/12/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Baby didnt open eyes. Date: Saturday, July 12, 2008, 1:46 AM

 

 

 

Dear Kursija ji,

I guess most of us will be able to pick up the afflictions that seem to have caused blindness/harm to eyes in this chart.

After your statements:

//I am sorry to inform the members that as for as my knowledge of medical astrology goes, I examined the chart, Leo lagna, occupied by Saturn and Mars, 2nd by Moon, 5th by retrograde Jupiter, 6th by Rahu, 11th by Sun and Mercury, 12th by Ketu and Venus. The dasha running is Moon/Mars/Moon. 22nd dreshkona is Moon occupied by Venus and Ket. 64th navamsha is again Moon occupied by Venus, Saturn and Mars. Jupiter is retrograde and aspects Sun and Jupiter is 8th lord. Rahu aspects Moon and Venus. Venus in between papa karatari yoga and so on…..//

you have declared…

//So the child is blind//

My point is…

Can we say that with such confidence? Could you have foretold this or said so in a blind chart.I know of another girl child born on 9th July 2008/10.02 am/Delhi. All positions similar… but the baby is ok and healthy. No problem with eyes.

I feel in this case also, the afflictions are not enough to cause blindness. Blindness is caused when 2H and 12H have extreme malefic influences and luminaries and venus are also afflicted. I don't think luminaries are so weak here.

There might have been some temporary problem which would be taken care of. Or if really the child is blind, we should look for other more specific reasons through differences in these two charts.

RegardsNeelam