Guest guest Posted July 10, 2008 Report Share Posted July 10, 2008 Dear Kiran ji, I managed to find a few horoscopes with exalted retrograde planets. Yet, in most of them the relevant dasha has not arrived yet. The following two natives have experienced the dasha of R.exalted planets. But I would not say that its affect occurred during the relevant dasa. Anyway I find some truth in the following mentioned by you: * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it is the lord as compared to the house where it is posited" 1. 25th March 1953 @ 3.10 PM in Colombo, Sri Lanka. Her Saturn the 7HL is exalted & retrograde in 4H. She is a widow. 2. 27th March 1956 @ 11.35 AM in Homagama, Sri Lanka. Her 7HL Jupiter is exalted & retro. in 2H. Her husband is well educated. Though they live together, the marriage is in kind of shatters. Hope this helps somewhat... blessings, Renu , "kiran.rama" <kiran.rama wrote:>> * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde > planets in a chart? > To what extent are the below rules true?> * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it is > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make exceptions?> Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is lord > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Kiran ji "the bhava signification and its severance we need to see other total influence in the chart and rule of 3 (tripods )bhava ,bhavesh ,karaka ).Other wise one house represents so many things in life ,every thing wont be negetated represented by the House lord and remebr most of the planets except luminaries share 2 houses too ." You are right. In the charts given the marriage is afflicted irrespective of the retrograde exalted 7HL. blessings Renu , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear renu ji & Kiran ji> > > > I think retrograde malefics are bad in the dasa and benefics still> retains its good qualities .Otherwise exalted planet is exalted and> debilated planet is debilated only ,retrogression wont improve or> decrese the effects of its lordships except the karaka results .That> also we hav to see in wide canvass.May be tru working charts we can> clearly see more .> > > > the bhava signification and its severance we need to see other total> influence in the chart and rule of 3 (tripods )bhava ,bhavesh ,karaka> ).Other wise one house represents so many things in life ,every thing> wont be negetated represented by the House lord and remebr most of the> planets except luminaries share 2 houses too .> > > > i am yet to make charts and see it ,i will see may be tomorrow and> answer it .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> >> >> >> > Dear Kiran ji,> >> > I managed to find a few horoscopes with exalted retrograde planets.> Yet,> > in most of them the relevant dasha has not arrived yet. The following> > two natives have experienced the dasha of R.exalted planets. But I> would> > not say that its affect occurred during the relevant dasa. Anyway I> > find some truth in the following mentioned by you:> >> > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it is> > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited"> >> > 1. 25th March 1953 @ 3.10 PM in Colombo, Sri Lanka.> >> > Her Saturn the 7HL is exalted & retrograde in 4H. She is a widow.> >> > 2. 27th March 1956 @ 11.35 AM in Homagama, Sri Lanka.> >> > Her 7HL Jupiter is exalted & retro. in 2H.> >> > Her husband is well educated. Though they live together, the marriage> is> > in kind of shatters.> >> > Hope this helps somewhat...> >> > blessings,> >> > Renu> >> >> > , "kiran.rama"> > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > >> > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde> > > planets in a chart?> > > To what extent are the below rules true?> > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > >> > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it> is> > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > >> > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make> exceptions?> > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is> lord> > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > >> > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 i have 3 retrograde planets. one planet called retro exalted in 12th place from lagna. you can case study my horoscope. scorpio lagna. retro mars in 12th also retro jupiter in 2ndsunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna dear grp and learned memebrs . Is any body having charts of known persons who has exalted or debilated planets in chart and same time dasa over and can giv a feed back ?? if so pls post it in grp so we can test all theorys and prove which one is correct .Hope every one will participate in discussions . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > , "kiran.rama"> > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > >> > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde> > > > planets in a chart?> > > > To what extent are the below rules true?> > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > > >> > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which> it> > is> > > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > > >> > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make> > exceptions?> > > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is> > lord> > > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > > >> > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> > > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> > > >> > >> >> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Dear members, I have exalted retrograde saturn which also happens to be the Lagana Lord. Date and place of birth- Feb. 14,1953, Hissar Saturn s dasa is almost over. If anyone would like to try ? sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Friday, 11 July, 2008 10:31:52 AM Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets Hare rama krishna dear grp and learned memebrs . Â Is any body having charts of known persons who has exalted or debilated planets in chart and same time dasa over and can giv a feed back ?? if so pls post it in grp so we can test all theorys and prove which one is correct .Hope every one will participate in discussions . Â regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " kiran.rama " > > > kiran.rama@ wrote: > > > > > > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde > > > > planets in a chart? > > > > To what extent are the below rules true? > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet > > > > > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which > it > > is > > > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited > > > > > > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make > > exceptions? > > > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is > > lord > > > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different? > > > > > > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify > > > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above > > > > > > > > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos./groups/bestof/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear satyavir singh ji I am yet to make the charts and giv a try ,But we r here reserching for one answer .So pls giv us ur feed back on it which will b helpful for other memebrs in the grp .Even i used those charts who already passed the dasa . Then we can invite other ppls opinions and more feed back frm diffrnt charts and ppl which will make the discussion more bibrant .what u say sir ?? regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , Satyavir Singh <savisda wrote:>> Dear members,> I have exalted retrograde saturn which also happens to be the Lagana Lord.> Date and place of birth- Feb. 14,1953, Hissar> Saturn s dasa is almost over.> If anyone would like to try ?> > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Friday, 11 July, 2008 10:31:52 AM> Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets> > > > Hare rama krishna> dear grp and learned memebrs .> Â Is any body having charts of known persons who has exalted or debilated planets in chart and same time dasa over and can giv a feed back ??> if so pls post it in grp> so we can test all theorys and prove which one is correct .Hope every one will participate in discussions .> Â > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde> > > > > planets in a chart?> > > > > To what extent are the below rules true?> > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > > > >> > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which> > it> > > is> > > > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > > > >> > > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make> > > exceptions?> > > > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is> > > lord> > > > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > > > >> > > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> > > > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it on http://in.promos./groups/bestof/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2008 Report Share Posted July 11, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Gokul Gaur ji Pls post ur data and pls giv ur feed back on dasas ( of retro planets ) which ever already passed already .Pls remembr we dont run a free prediction service here as this is purely a reserch cum study grp .So we need liv exmples to test all dictums than we predict some thing based on individual ability . if u feel ur chart qualifies the above said specification s u r welcome to post ur datas and feed backs and even any analysis by urself if u know astrology . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , gokul gaur <gokulgaur wrote:>> i have 3 retrograde planets. one planet called retro exalted in 12th place from lagna. you can case study my horoscope. scorpio lagna. retro mars in 12th also retro jupiter in 2nd> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > Hare rama krishna > dear grp and learned memebrs .> Is any body having charts of known persons who has exalted or debilated planets in chart and same time dasa over and can giv a feed back ??> if so pls post it in grp > so we can test all theorys and prove which one is correct .Hope every one will participate in discussions .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > , "kiran.rama"> > > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde> > > > > planets in a chart?> > > > > To what extent are the below rules true?> > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > > > >> > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which> > it> > > is> > > > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > > > >> > > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make> > > exceptions?> > > > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is> > > lord> > > > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > > > >> > > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> > > > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Renuji, Thanks for the chart: I wonder how many charts you have in your database Let us for a minute consider that retrograde planet behaves like normal. Then this chart is pretty good for 7th house. Widow's chart 7th house has Ra in it, aspected by Ke and Mo (who is also lagna lord) - Ra/Ke aspect is bad but lagna lord (who is very powerful in his own house) mitigates that 7HL is exalted but retrograde - he is aspected by Ju, Ma and a retrograde Venus. Ma is in his own house and yogakaraka for this chart (Cancer lagna) - so unlikely he did harm - also Ju is benefic planet. Ve is also benefic but for retrograde. SO overall the 7th house and its lord are afflicted but there are mitigating factors like lagna lord aspect, yogakaraka aspect, Ju aspec etc. Venus - karaka is in 10th house - good placement - with yogakaraka and benefic Ju, aspected by exalted Sa So other than retrogradeness, chart is good. Unimaginable that something like widowhood would happen - so the only explaination is that exalted retrograde Sa behaved like debilitated and hence spouse got killed Regards Kiran , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > > > > Dear Kiran ji, > > I managed to find a few horoscopes with exalted retrograde planets. Yet, > in most of them the relevant dasha has not arrived yet. The following > two natives have experienced the dasha of R.exalted planets. But I would > not say that its affect occurred during the relevant dasa. Anyway I > find some truth in the following mentioned by you: > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it is > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited " > > 1. 25th March 1953 @ 3.10 PM in Colombo, Sri Lanka. > > Her Saturn the 7HL is exalted & retrograde in 4H. She is a widow. > > 2. 27th March 1956 @ 11.35 AM in Homagama, Sri Lanka. > > Her 7HL Jupiter is exalted & retro. in 2H. > > Her husband is well educated. Though they live together, the marriage is > in kind of shatters. > > Hope this helps somewhat... > > blessings, > > Renu > > > , " kiran.rama " > <kiran.rama@> wrote: > > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde > > planets in a chart? > > To what extent are the below rules true? > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which it is > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited > > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make exceptions? > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is lord > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different? > > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear satyavir singh ji Pls post ur time of birth too U r a govt officer ,u r profession reached peak and go down to where it strted means do u demoted frm service ??which is very highly unlikely generaly india unless they decided to to giv u golden hake hand and asked u to take VRS . any way the accuracy of birth time wil tell the rest of story . Also pls tell us when its strted and also any other feed back on rest of the areas in life ,may b property ,car ,childrens performance even parents or siblings ,any feed back will b welcome . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Satyavir Singh <savisda wrote:>> Dear Shri Sunil ji,> Lagna- Capricorn with Rahu, 2nd house with Sun, Moon and mercury, 3rd house with Venus and Mars, 4th house with Jupiter, 7th house with Ketu, and 10th house with Saturn.> A govt officer, got married in 1983, have two daughters.> I dont know what type of other feedback should I write. One thing I can say that during the Saturns Mahadasa I saw the career graph moving to the peak and coming down to the level from where it started.> Satyavir Singh> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Friday, 11 July, 2008 11:29:00 PM> Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets> > > > Hare rama krishna> dear satyavir singh ji> > I am yet to make the charts and giv a try ,But we r here reserching for one answer .So pls giv us ur feed back on it which will b helpful for other memebrs in the grp .Even i used those charts who already passed the dasa .> > Then we can invite other ppls opinions and more feed back frm diffrnt charts and ppl which will make the discussion more bibrant .what u say sir ??> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Satyavir Singh savisda@ wrote:> >> > Dear members,> > I have exalted retrograde saturn which also happens to be the Lagana Lord.> > Date and place of birth- Feb. 14,1953, Hissar> > Saturn s dasa is almost over.> > If anyone would like to try ?> > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 11 July, 2008 10:31:52 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> > dear grp and learned memebrs .> >  Is any body having charts of known persons who has exalted or debilated planets in chart and same time dasa over and can giv a feed back ??> > if so pls post it in grp> > so we can test all theorys and prove which one is correct .Hope every one will participate in discussions .> >  > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "kiran.rama"> > > > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > * What are general rules to follow when we see exalted retrograde> > > > > > planets in a chart?> > > > > > To what extent are the below rules true?> > > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet behaves like a debilitated planet> > > > > >> > > > > > * Exalted Retrograde Planet does more harm to the house of which> > > it> > > > is> > > > > > the lord as compared to the house where it is posited> > > > > >> > > > > > Are the above rules always true? In what cases can we make> > > > exceptions?> > > > > > Also how does the behavior vary when exalted retrograde planet is> > > > lord> > > > > > of houses 1 to 12 ...Is it different?> > > > > >> > > > > > Renuji, any actual charts where we can verify> > > > > > Other learned members, your thoughts on the above> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Birth time is 7.00 A.M. WELL-TO-DO FAMILY background. Have agricultural lands, car, house etc. Childrens performance is good Satyavir Singh sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Saturday, 12 July, 2008 11:56:03 PM Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets Hare rama krishna dear satyavir singh ji  Pls post ur time of birth too U r a govt officer ,u r  profession reached peak and go down to where it strted means do u demoted frm service ??which is very highly unlikely generaly india unless they decided to to giv u golden hake hand and asked u to take VRS . any way the accuracy of birth time wil tell the rest of story . Also pls tell us when its strted and also any other feed back on rest of the areas in life ,may b property ,car ,childrens performance even parents or siblings ,any feed back will b welcome . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . ancient_indian_ astrology, Satyavir Singh <savisda wrote: > > Dear Shri Sunil ji, > Lagna- Capricorn with Rahu, 2nd house with Sun, Moon and mercury, 3rd house with Venus and Mars, 4th house with Jupiter, 7th house with Ketu, and 10th house with Saturn. > A govt officer, got married in 1983, have two daughters. > I dont know what type of other feedback should I write. One thing I can say that during the Saturns Mahadasa I saw the career graph moving to the peak and coming down to the level from where it started. > Satyavir Singh > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, 11 July, 2008 11:29:00 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets > > > > Hare rama krishna > dear satyavir singh ji > > I am yet to make the charts and giv a try ,But we r here reserching for one answer .So pls giv us ur feed back on it which will b helpful for other memebrs in the grp .Even i used those charts who already passed the dasa . > > Then we can invite other ppls opinions and more feed back frm diffrnt charts and ppl which will make the discussion more bibrant .what u say sir ?? > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Satyavir Singh savisda@ wrote: > > > > Dear members, > > I have exalted retrograde saturn which also happens to be the Lagana Lord. > > Date and place of birth- Feb. 14,1953, Hissar > > Saturn s dasa is almost over. > > If anyone would like to try ? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 13, 2008 Report Share Posted July 13, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear satyavir singh ji Thanks for the birth time But i think u did not answer the question properly .The aim of the post was to see the effects planets in retro ,wheter exlated or debilated or in some other houses and how its reacting to person life of a person .That includes all the 100000 areas in ones life and not limited to profession . some can get job same time father can die ,or even he can get job of father on compassionate grounds and in same dasa he may get married and job may take him away frm birth place ,same dasa his siblings may get good scholarship ,so u see one dasa and its exprnces is wat we concentrates Not the total environment generaly . now u said ur profession gone upside down this was my question U r a govt officer ,u r profession reached peak and go down to where it strted means do u demoted frm service ??which is very highly unlikely generaly india unless they decided to to giv u golden hake hand and asked u to take VRS . any way the accuracy of birth time wil tell the rest of story . Also pls tell us when its strted and also any other feed back on rest of the areas in life ,may b property ,car ,childrens performance even parents or siblings ,any feed back will b welcome . so now u know i think what was the intention in the post regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Satyavir Singh <savisda wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Birth time is 7.00 A.M.> WELL-TO-DO FAMILY background. Have agricultural lands, car, house etc.> Childrens performance is good> > Satyavir Singh> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > Saturday, 12 July, 2008 11:56:03 PM> Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets> Hare rama krishna> dear satyavir singh ji>  Pls post ur time of birth too> U r a govt officer ,u r  profession reached peak and go down to where it strted means do u demoted frm service ??which is very highly unlikely generaly india unless they decided to to giv u golden hake hand and asked u to take VRS .> any way the accuracy of birth time wil tell the rest of story .> Also pls tell us when its strted and also any other feed back on rest of the areas in life ,may b property ,car ,childrens performance even parents or siblings ,any feed back will b welcome .> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, Satyavir Singh savisda@ wrote:> >> > Dear Shri Sunil ji,> > Lagna- Capricorn with Rahu, 2nd house with Sun, Moon and mercury, 3rd house with Venus and Mars, 4th house with Jupiter, 7th house with Ketu, and 10th house with Saturn.> > A govt officer, got married in 1983, have two daughters.> > I dont know what type of other feedback should I write. One thing I can say that during the Saturns Mahadasa I saw the career graph moving to the peak and coming down to the level from where it started.> > Satyavir Singh> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 11 July, 2008 11:29:00 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Exalted Retrograde Planets> >> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> > dear satyavir singh ji> >> > I am yet to make the charts and giv a try ,But we r here reserching for one answer .So pls giv us ur feed back on it which will b helpful for other memebrs in the grp .Even i used those charts who already passed the dasa .> >> > Then we can invite other ppls opinions and more feed back frm diffrnt charts and ppl which will make the discussion more bibrant .what u say sir ??> >> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Satyavir Singh savisda@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear members,> > > I have exalted retrograde saturn which also happens to be the Lagana Lord.> > > Date and place of birth- Feb. 14,1953, Hissar> > > Saturn s dasa is almost over.> > > If anyone would like to try ?> >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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