Shani in Sukhsthan(4th House): attn: sunil nair ji

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Dear Sunil ji, That was a beautiful mail! A mail that should be understood by any practicing astrologer! You daringly pointed to many fundametal and unique questions - * Why dont u ppl ask why no rishis are supplying any charts in BPHS ,yavan hora ,or varha hora and why they laid our only principles ? * Bhava ,bhavesh and karaka .4th house has many karakas .so a person having good education need not hav lot of landed property or vehicles or even happiness frm mother . (Is it not a fundametal fact any true astrologer should keep in mind?)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

Re: Shani in Sukhsthan(4th House): attn: sunil nair ji

 

Hare rama krishna

dear sanjeev ji

I lov ur enthusism for creating troubles knowingly ,as i know u r not a novice into astro and i think u know atleast how basic principles are laid out in astrology .Why dont u ppl ask why no rishis are supplying any charts in BPHS ,yavan hora ,or varha hora and why they laid our only principles .

And some ppl will ask a sample question in a grp ( hidden agenda is we shud ask their data and then strt predicting so knowingly we just saying the answer to the question only without biting the bait ) ,so we avoid the more deeper part as we r not sitting only for them to giv free prediction s to their hearts content leaving aside our prime duties ..

I was quoting the basic rules and some unwanted persons who claimes 45 yrs into astrology said sani promots the bhava he is placed statement which is very stale and unwanted and he escaped many times frm the question of me saying i am coming with my article or reserch were as i dont need to do it as i am quoting a age old wisdom and proven beyond doubt .

so another one jump into the tread as usual he want charts .he also saying he is an astrologer ,do u think an astrologer needs charts ??or dont know if he is an astrologer what i am saying is correct or not ,even saying he has a marriage agency ,then why cant he prov it by 1000 charts which will be in his data bank that see we dont care sani and it promoted the 4th bhava .so the reason for jumping and asking charts is clear .even when i write abt bandan yogas he jump for charts and when krishnaji said u can see my blog spot he dont seems to bother it .Also when ever some charts are presented u can see he never bothered to attend any discussions , what ever discussed here .sreeram ji presented one chart of a person in coma .u can see bandan yoga working there during the dasa ( he is confined to bed ) so the Reason is i rejected his business mails in the grp .Also rejected the requests for publishing the articles which i write frm time to time .As i dont feel i doing a gr8 service or i am last word in astrology .

Now coming to ur question its an accepted facts that natural malefics dont promote the bhava they r placed in .And natural benefics promotes the bhava they r in .

so ur chart i dont know how far it qualifies ,Is he having a gr8 married life as 4th house rules family happiness ??Is his mother is very healthy since his birth as 4th rules mother .Or is he is happy generaly without any mood swings ???

Or is he having a fleet of vevicles as 4th rules vehicles ,or is he one one of the largest land owner in ur area or city ??

also malefics in 4th will tends the nativ to leav his house or home country and he may liv some where else ( this is happening more these days which may not be true 30000yrs b4 ,still rishis said it )

i dont know even u can say he has all this ,he is perfect and embodiment of all richness ,happiness and what ever 4th house represents .But u know or we said many times in grp to know the results and experience a nativ can hav frm a purticular bhava we shud see three legs or pillars .

Bhava ,bhavesh and karaka .4th house has many karakas .so a person having good education need not hav lot of landed property or vehicles or even happiness frm mother .

u know if u learned some of astrology ,u know how basic principles are formed and in that foundation the other supporting or exceptions works .Even i mentioned in mail itself all of this in very short words and a big article was not my concern .

In the chart u presented his sani is in a sama rasi ( nuetral ) sign .and Generaly jupiterain signs sani behavs better ,And his sani dasa is over frm birth itself in younger age ,i dont go to the chart deeply as i am concentreting only ur question .

Now regrding rhumatism u hav to wait for his old age or atleast let him pass middle age .

I remeber some thing now ,Once when i reminded a family of girl's chart that she is having mars dosha ,so we shud strt some upay right now as the girl is 13 now .Here comes the reply we never find any mars dosha for her till today .So u better tell this to some one else .Do u belong to those categary ??

Remembr i said exceptions works ( i dont need to repeat it also as we used 1000 times here itslef ) ,But the question was based on sani in sukha stana ( house of happiness ) so was the reply .Is every prediction is one planet based then we can see hindustan will be full of astrologers .

I used only one exception only if sani as lagna lord ,again if sani as lagna lord in debilation this will not hold water .So read the mails in right spirit and avoid controversies and provocations if u want to learn subjuct .If u know every thing then i am not stressing this words .i was answering to bad elemnts,as thier comments may giv very bad impact in future of already corrupted astrology ,which i feel its my duty as lover of this gr8 science which our rishis has designated for the welfare of all mankind .

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > , "pashu_sanju"> pashu_sanju@ wrote:> >> > Namaskar,> > Nairji,> > I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In> > one such reply u said following:> >> > {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> > property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> > relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> > will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his> > vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a> > ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)> >> >> > I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to> > him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> > Birth data given below:> > DoB:5/8/1966> > ToB:16-10 Hrs> > Place: Gwalior> >> > Please explain.> > Regards,> > Sanjeev> >>

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Hare rama krishna

dear sreenadh ji ,

 

Thanxs for good words ,since u practised astrology in the heartland of astrology where very lerned astrologers were present than lobbying in interent grps and also the people those who visit us also some what educated in astrology means it work like a real touchstone ,so u can understand it better .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> That was a beautiful mail! A mail that should be understood by any> practicing astrologer! You daringly pointed to many fundametal and> unique questions -> * Why dont u ppl ask why no rishis are supplying any charts in BPHS> ,yavan hora ,or varha hora and why they laid our only principles ?> * Bhava ,bhavesh and karaka .4th house has many karakas .so a person> having good education need not hav lot of landed property or vehicles or> even happiness frm mother . (Is it not a fundametal fact any true> astrologer should keep in mind?)> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "sunil nair"> astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> Re: Shani in Sukhsthan(4th House): attn: sunil nair ji> Hare rama krishna> > dear sanjeev ji> > I lov ur enthusism for creating troubles knowingly ,as i know u r not> a novice into astro and i think u know atleast how basic principles are> laid out in astrology .Why dont u ppl ask why no rishis are supplying> any charts in BPHS ,yavan hora ,or varha hora and why they laid our only> principles .> > And some ppl will ask a sample question in a grp ( hidden agenda is we> shud ask their data and then strt predicting so knowingly we just> saying the answer to the question only without biting the bait ) ,so we> avoid the more deeper part as we r not sitting only for them to giv free> prediction s to their hearts content leaving aside our prime duties ..> > I was quoting the basic rules and some unwanted persons who claimes 45> yrs into astrology said sani promots the bhava he is placed statement> which is very stale and unwanted and he escaped many times frm the> question of me saying i am coming with my article or reserch were as i> dont need to do it as i am quoting a age old wisdom and proven beyond> doubt .> > so another one jump into the tread as usual he want charts .he also> saying he is an astrologer ,do u think an astrologer needs charts ??or> dont know if he is an astrologer what i am saying is correct or not> ,even saying he has a marriage agency ,then why cant he prov it by 1000> charts which will be in his data bank that see we dont care sani and it> promoted the 4th bhava .so the reason for jumping and asking charts is> clear .even when i write abt bandan yogas he jump for charts and when> krishnaji said u can see my blog spot he dont seems to bother it .Also> when ever some charts are presented u can see he never bothered to> attend any discussions , what ever discussed here .sreeram ji presented> one chart of a person in coma .u can see bandan yoga working there> during the dasa ( he is confined to bed ) so the Reason is i rejected> his business mails in the grp .Also rejected the requests for> publishing the articles which i write frm time to time .As i dont feel i> doing a gr8 service or i am last word in astrology .> > Now coming to ur question its an accepted facts that natural malefics> dont promote the bhava they r placed in .And natural benefics promotes> the bhava they r in .> > so ur chart i dont know how far it qualifies ,Is he having a gr8 married> life as 4th house rules family happiness ??Is his mother is very healthy> since his birth as 4th rules mother .Or is he is happy generaly without> any mood swings ???> > Or is he having a fleet of vevicles as 4th rules vehicles ,or is he one> one of the largest land owner in ur area or city ??> > also malefics in 4th will tends the nativ to leav his house or home> country and he may liv some where else ( this is happening more these> days which may not be true 30000yrs b4 ,still rishis said it )> > i dont know even u can say he has all this ,he is perfect and embodiment> of all richness ,happiness and what ever 4th house represents .But u> know or we said many times in grp to know the results and experience a> nativ can hav frm a purticular bhava we shud see three legs or pillars .> > Bhava ,bhavesh and karaka .4th house has many karakas .so a person> having good education need not hav lot of landed property or vehicles or> even happiness frm mother .> > u know if u learned some of astrology ,u know how basic principles are> formed and in that foundation the other supporting or exceptions works> .Even i mentioned in mail itself all of this in very short words and a> big article was not my concern .> > In the chart u presented his sani is in a sama rasi ( nuetral ) sign> .and Generaly jupiterain signs sani behavs better ,And his sani dasa is> over frm birth itself in younger age ,i dont go to the chart deeply as i> am concentreting only ur question .> > Now regrding rhumatism u hav to wait for his old age or atleast let him> pass middle age .> > I remeber some thing now ,Once when i reminded a family of girl's chart> that she is having mars dosha ,so we shud strt some upay right now as> the girl is 13 now .Here comes the reply we never find any mars dosha> for her till today .So u better tell this to some one else .Do u belong> to those categary ??> > Remembr i said exceptions works ( i dont need to repeat it also as we> used 1000 times here itslef ) ,But the question was based on sani in> sukha stana ( house of happiness ) so was the reply .Is every prediction> is one planet based then we can see hindustan will be full of> astrologers .> > I used only one exception only if sani as lagna lord ,again if sani as> lagna lord in debilation this will not hold water .So read the mails in> right spirit and avoid controversies and provocations if u want to learn> subjuct .If u know every thing then i am not stressing this words .i was> answering to bad elemnts,as thier comments may giv very bad impact in> future of already corrupted astrology ,which i feel its my duty as lover> of this gr8 science which our rishis has designated for the welfare of> all mankind .> > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> > , "pashu_sanju"> > pashu_sanju@ wrote:> > >> > > Namaskar,> > > Nairji,> > > I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response.> In> > > one such reply u said following:> > >> > > {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> > > property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> > > relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> > > will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house> ,his> > > vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a> > > ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)> > >> > >> > > I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened> to> > > him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> > > Birth data given below:> > > DoB:5/8/1966> > > ToB:16-10 Hrs> > > Place: Gwalior> > >> > > Please explain.> > > Regards,> > > Sanjeev> > >> >>