Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa and amsa dasa

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Hare rama krishna

dear Neelam ji

I forget to add abt ur question on gulika

it generaly says gulika destorys the effect of rasi it placed in ,only relief is conjunction of jup or jup drishti or juiterian rasis .

on House Lord has drishti of jupiter .

other wise its says only place gulika is good is in 11th house and in 10th house also may b good but lazyness or career problems may come .In lagna it may destroy health or giv problem in head

Now if gulika is un aspected by jup ,see nakshtra Lord and its dasa is considered as gulika dasa .

in both cases the gulika dasa is running ,but in 2nd case gulika amsa Lord was diffrnt ,

but in both cases 2nd Lord aspected by jup who giv gulika his rasi and first case amsa too

so in case of serious problem to eyes also the partial cure is gaurantted .

see 12th Lord is also afflicted as its moon ( karaka for jala tatwa in eyes and eye)

In first case gulika navamsa degree ( parivritti or mathematical navamsa chart ) is 2 signs 10 degree and 52 minits ,so rahu nakshtra ( rahu in 6th house ) .

Where as in 2nd case the mathematical navamsa degree of gulika is 1 sign 29 dgrees 15 minits means taurus sign mars nakshtra and mars aspected by jup .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

ps ,generaly i find this is working in most of cases

 

, "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear neelam ji ,> > > > I will write one of this days the gulika calculation manualy .i think> may b in this grp archives also may be there .> > > > its based on Nadika and day duration and nite durtion> > > > we hav to take it in propotion to the place depending on place of birth> .> > > > so gilika rises on 26 nadika ,24 nadika upto 2 nadika frm sunday to sat> day deduct 4 nadika daily .> > > > Nite will b diffrnt ,sunday u take the 5th days day duration of gulika> in nite .means 10 nadika ,monday 6 nadika ,tueday 2 nadika then> wednesday 26 and reduce 4 each day .> > > > but calculation will b diffrnt .> > > > suppose delhi sun rise is 5.35 AM and sun set is 7.17 PM,convert into> nadika ( ghatika ) and then devide by 30 and multiply by day rise gulik> nadika> > so sunday will b say 40 nadika is day duration or dina mana> > so 40/30x26 like this> > then we hav to add to rising degree or setting degrees depending on day> or nite ,say one rasi is approx 5 nadika ,so u know .30 degree for> 5nadika x 60( vinadika ) ,so 300 vinadikas for one rasi duration ,so one> degree is 10 vinadikas .( one nadika is 24 minits and one vinadika is> 24 secnds )> > i will see the SW if the fellow made in english i will try to sent u .> > Actualy we hav to see all nava dodhas,like visha ,ushna ghatika ,rahu> kala ,and other tertiary planets while doing a chart for delination> .Also we hav to use panchanga effectively and combine in to dasas and> charts .Other wise a replica chart of budha ( if u hav ) may b a rogues> chart these days ,tho all planets may b even in same degrees and rasis> and chart is same .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > I will conct u tru prvt mail if the SW avilable in english .my version> is malayalam only .So i even lost the manual calculation ability these> days .> > > > > , "neelam gupta"> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sunilji,> >> > Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier mail that it> is a> > baby girl.> >> > Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its application.> Each> > software gives it own calculations and there are several ways of> calculating> > Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does give an> > important indication if right gulika is applied rightly. Can't we> right a> > small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika calculation and> apply> > it consistently in each chart. Which software are you using?> >> > Then also, an important point was how to see the manifestation with a> > certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >>

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Dear Sunil ji,

 

Which house/houses does Gulika/Mandi aspect from its place? 7th

house or none?

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear Neelam ji

>

> I forget to add abt ur question on gulika

>

> it generaly says gulika destorys the effect of rasi it placed

in ,only

> relief is conjunction of jup or jup drishti or juiterian rasis .

>

> on House Lord has drishti of jupiter .

>

> other wise its says only place gulika is good is in 11th house and

in

> 10th house also may b good but lazyness or career problems may

come .In

> lagna it may destroy health or giv problem in head

>

> Now if gulika is un aspected by jup ,see nakshtra Lord and its

dasa is

> considered as gulika dasa .

>

> in both cases the gulika dasa is running ,but in 2nd case gulika

amsa

> Lord was diffrnt ,

>

> but in both cases 2nd Lord aspected by jup who giv gulika his rasi

and

> first case amsa too

>

> so in case of serious problem to eyes also the partial cure is

> gaurantted .

>

> see 12th Lord is also afflicted as its moon ( karaka for jala

tatwa in

> eyes and eye)

>

> In first case gulika navamsa degree ( parivritti or mathematical

navamsa

> chart ) is 2 signs 10 degree and 52 minits ,so rahu nakshtra (

rahu in

> 6th house ) .

>

> Where as in 2nd case the mathematical navamsa degree of gulika is

1 sign

> 29 dgrees 15 minits means taurus sign mars nakshtra and mars

aspected by

> jup .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

> ps ,generaly i find this is working in most of cases

>

>

>

>

> , " sunil nair "

> <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear neelam ji ,

> >

> >

> >

> > I will write one of this days the gulika calculation manualy .i

think

> > may b in this grp archives also may be there .

> >

> >

> >

> > its based on Nadika and day duration and nite durtion

> >

> >

> >

> > we hav to take it in propotion to the place depending on place of

> birth

> > .

> >

> >

> >

> > so gilika rises on 26 nadika ,24 nadika upto 2 nadika frm sunday

to

> sat

> > day deduct 4 nadika daily .

> >

> >

> >

> > Nite will b diffrnt ,sunday u take the 5th days day duration of

gulika

> > in nite .means 10 nadika ,monday 6 nadika ,tueday 2 nadika then

> > wednesday 26 and reduce 4 each day .

> >

> >

> >

> > but calculation will b diffrnt .

> >

> >

> >

> > suppose delhi sun rise is 5.35 AM and sun set is 7.17 PM,convert

into

> > nadika ( ghatika ) and then devide by 30 and multiply by day rise

> gulik

> > nadika

> >

> > so sunday will b say 40 nadika is day duration or dina mana

> >

> > so 40/30x26 like this

> >

> > then we hav to add to rising degree or setting degrees depending

on

> day

> > or nite ,say one rasi is approx 5 nadika ,so u know .30 degree

for

> > 5nadika x 60( vinadika ) ,so 300 vinadikas for one rasi

duration ,so

> one

> > degree is 10 vinadikas .( one nadika is 24 minits and one

vinadika is

> > 24 secnds )

> >

> > i will see the SW if the fellow made in english i will try to

sent u .

> >

> > Actualy we hav to see all nava dodhas,like visha ,ushna

ghatika ,rahu

> > kala ,and other tertiary planets while doing a chart for

delination

> > .Also we hav to use panchanga effectively and combine in to

dasas and

> > charts .Other wise a replica chart of budha ( if u hav ) may b a

> rogues

> > chart these days ,tho all planets may b even in same degrees and

rasis

> > and chart is same .

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> >

> > I will conct u tru prvt mail if the SW avilable in english .my

version

> > is malayalam only .So i even lost the manual calculation ability

these

> > days .

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " neelam gupta "

> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Sunilji,

> > >

> > > Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier mail

that

> it

> > is a

> > > baby girl.

> > >

> > > Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its

application.

> > Each

> > > software gives it own calculations and there are several ways

of

> > calculating

> > > Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does

give an

> > > important indication if right gulika is applied rightly. Can't

we

> > right a

> > > small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika

calculation

> and

> > apply

> > > it consistently in each chart. Which software are you using?

> > >

> > > Then also, an important point was how to see the manifestation

with

> a

> > > certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem.

> > >

> > > Regards

> > > Neelam

> > >

> >

>

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Dear Sunil ji,

 

Thanks...Does that means gulika will afflict the 7th house from its

placement as well?

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> renu ji

>

>

>

> In general 7th aspect is considered ,but i heard there is other

> aspects ,but this gulika literature is hidden and its passing frm

guru

> to sisya and or kept in as family secrets,and in later yrs the

break in

> soceity structure has destroyed the secrets too or it gone hidden

more .

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> Om shreem Mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

> , " renunw " <renunw@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil ji,

> >

> > Which house/houses does Gulika/Mandi aspect from its place? 7th

> > house or none?

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

> > , " sunil nair "

> > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > >

> > > dear Neelam ji

> > >

> > > I forget to add abt ur question on gulika

> > >

> > > it generaly says gulika destorys the effect of rasi it placed

> > in ,only

> > > relief is conjunction of jup or jup drishti or juiterian

rasis .

> > >

> > > on House Lord has drishti of jupiter .

> > >

> > > other wise its says only place gulika is good is in 11th house

and

> > in

> > > 10th house also may b good but lazyness or career problems may

> > come .In

> > > lagna it may destroy health or giv problem in head

> > >

> > > Now if gulika is un aspected by jup ,see nakshtra Lord and its

> > dasa is

> > > considered as gulika dasa .

> > >

> > > in both cases the gulika dasa is running ,but in 2nd case

gulika

> > amsa

> > > Lord was diffrnt ,

> > >

> > > but in both cases 2nd Lord aspected by jup who giv gulika his

rasi

> > and

> > > first case amsa too

> > >

> > > so in case of serious problem to eyes also the partial cure is

> > > gaurantted .

> > >

> > > see 12th Lord is also afflicted as its moon ( karaka for jala

> > tatwa in

> > > eyes and eye)

> > >

> > > In first case gulika navamsa degree ( parivritti or

mathematical

> > navamsa

> > > chart ) is 2 signs 10 degree and 52 minits ,so rahu nakshtra (

> > rahu in

> > > 6th house ) .

> > >

> > > Where as in 2nd case the mathematical navamsa degree of gulika

is

> > 1 sign

> > > 29 dgrees 15 minits means taurus sign mars nakshtra and mars

> > aspected by

> > > jup .

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> > >

> > > ps ,generaly i find this is working in most of cases

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > , " sunil nair "

> > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare rama krishna

> > > >

> > > > dear neelam ji ,

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > I will write one of this days the gulika calculation

manualy .i

> > think

> > > > may b in this grp archives also may be there .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > its based on Nadika and day duration and nite durtion

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > we hav to take it in propotion to the place depending on

place of

> > > birth

> > > > .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > so gilika rises on 26 nadika ,24 nadika upto 2 nadika frm

sunday

> > to

> > > sat

> > > > day deduct 4 nadika daily .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Nite will b diffrnt ,sunday u take the 5th days day duration

of

> > gulika

> > > > in nite .means 10 nadika ,monday 6 nadika ,tueday 2 nadika

then

> > > > wednesday 26 and reduce 4 each day .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > but calculation will b diffrnt .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > suppose delhi sun rise is 5.35 AM and sun set is 7.17

PM,convert

> > into

> > > > nadika ( ghatika ) and then devide by 30 and multiply by day

rise

> > > gulik

> > > > nadika

> > > >

> > > > so sunday will b say 40 nadika is day duration or dina mana

> > > >

> > > > so 40/30x26 like this

> > > >

> > > > then we hav to add to rising degree or setting degrees

depending

> > on

> > > day

> > > > or nite ,say one rasi is approx 5 nadika ,so u know .30

degree

> > for

> > > > 5nadika x 60( vinadika ) ,so 300 vinadikas for one rasi

> > duration ,so

> > > one

> > > > degree is 10 vinadikas .( one nadika is 24 minits and one

> > vinadika is

> > > > 24 secnds )

> > > >

> > > > i will see the SW if the fellow made in english i will try to

> > sent u .

> > > >

> > > > Actualy we hav to see all nava dodhas,like visha ,ushna

> > ghatika ,rahu

> > > > kala ,and other tertiary planets while doing a chart for

> > delination

> > > > .Also we hav to use panchanga effectively and combine in to

> > dasas and

> > > > charts .Other wise a replica chart of budha ( if u hav ) may

b a

> > > rogues

> > > > chart these days ,tho all planets may b even in same degrees

and

> > rasis

> > > > and chart is same .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > regrds sunil nair

> > > >

> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

> > > >

> > > > I will conct u tru prvt mail if the SW avilable in

english .my

> > version

> > > > is malayalam only .So i even lost the manual calculation

ability

> > these

> > > > days .

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > , " neelam

gupta "

> > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Sunilji,

> > > > >

> > > > > Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier

mail

> > that

> > > it

> > > > is a

> > > > > baby girl.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its

> > application.

> > > > Each

> > > > > software gives it own calculations and there are several

ways

> > of

> > > > calculating

> > > > > Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does

> > give an

> > > > > important indication if right gulika is applied rightly.

Can't

> > we

> > > > right a

> > > > > small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika

> > calculation

> > > and

> > > > apply

> > > > > it consistently in each chart. Which software are you

using?

> > > > >

> > > > > Then also, an important point was how to see the

manifestation

> > with

> > > a

> > > > > certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem.

> > > > >

> > > > > Regards

> > > > > Neelam

> > > > >

> > > >

> > >

> >

>

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Hare rama krishna

dear Ram jaswal ji

In that case why cant we take suns drishti for sani as his is father of sani ,No traditionalists has some view and some Logic other than 7th drishti which i dont know

 

thanks for the query

 

regrds sunil nair

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sunil ji> > some believe Gulika to be Sani's son - should one take Sani's aspects for> Gulika as well?> > Best wishes .....> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair> 12 July 2008 17:28> > Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa> and amsa dasa> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > Renu ji > > > > yes 1/7 axis is considered ,but look for aspect of jupiter on bhavas or> Lords for saving grace > > > > rgeds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah/> > > > > , "renunw" renunw@> wrote:> >> > Dear Sunil ji,> > > > Thanks...Does that means gulika will afflict the 7th house from its > > placement as well? > > > > blessings> > > > Renu> > > > , "sunil nair" > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > > renu ji> > > > > > > > > > > > In general 7th aspect is considered ,but i heard there is other> > > aspects ,but this gulika literature is hidden and its passing frm > > guru> > > to sisya and or kept in as family secrets,and in later yrs the > > break in> > > soceity structure has destroyed the secrets too or it gone hidden > > more .> > > > > > > > > > & gt; > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > Om shreem Mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > , "renunw" <renunw@>> > > wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sunil ji,> > > >> > > > Which house/houses does Gulika/Mandi aspect from its place? 7th> > > > house or none?> > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > >> > > > > dear Neelam ji> > > > >> > > > > I forget to add abt ur question on gulika> > > > >> > > > > it gener aly says gulika destorys the effect of rasi it placed> > > > in ,only> > > > > relief is conjunction of jup or jup drishti or juiterian > > rasis .> > > > >> > > > > on House Lord has drishti of jupiter .> > > > >> > > > > other wise its says only place gulika is good is in 11th house > > and> > > > in> > > > > 10th house also may b good but lazyness or career problems may> > > > come .In> > > > > lagna it may destroy health or giv problem in head> > > > >> > > > > Now if gulika is un aspected by jup ,see nakshtra Lord and its> > > > dasa is> > > > > considered as gulika dasa .> > > > >> > > > > in both cases the gulika dasa is running ,but in 2nd case > > gulika> > > > amsa> > > > > Lord was diffrnt ,> > > > >> > > ; > > but in both cases 2nd Lord aspected by jup who giv gulika his > > rasi> > > > and> > > > > first case amsa too> > > > >> > > > > so in case of serious problem to eyes also the partial cure is> > > > > gaurantted .> > > > >> > > > > see 12th Lord is also afflicted as its moon ( karaka for jala> > > > tatwa in> > > > > eyes and eye)> > > > >> > > > > In first case gulika navamsa degree ( parivritti or > > mathematical> > > > navamsa> > > > > chart ) is 2 signs 10 degree and 52 minits ,so rahu nakshtra (> > > > rahu in> > > > > 6th house ) .> > > > >> > > > > Where as in 2nd case the mathematical navamsa degree of gulika > > is> > > > 1 sign> > > > > 29 dgrees 15 minits means taurus sign mars nakshtra and mars> > > > aspected by> > > > > jup .> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > >> > > > > ps ,generaly i find this is working in most of cases> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > >> > > > > > dear neelam ji ,> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I will write one of this days the gulika calculation > > manua ly .i> > > > think> > > > > > may b in this grp archives also may be there .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > its based on Nadika and day duration and nite durtion> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > we hav to take it in propotion to the place depending on > > place of> > > > > birth> > > > > > .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > so gilika rises on 26 nadika ,24 nadika upto 2 nadika frm > > sunday> > > > to> > > > > sat> > > > > > day deduct 4 nadika daily .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Nite will b diffrnt ,sunday u take the 5th days day duration > > of> > ; > > gulika> > > > > > in nite .means 10 nadika ,monday 6 nadika ,tueday 2 nadika > > then> > > > > > wednesday 26 and reduce 4 each day .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > but calculation will b diffrnt .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > suppose delhi sun rise is 5.35 AM and sun set is 7.17 > > PM,convert> > > > into> > > > > > nadika ( ghatika ) and then devide by 30 and multiply by day > > rise> > > > > gulik> > > > > > nadika> > > > > >> > > > > > so sunday will b say 40 nadika is day duration or dina mana> > > > > >> > > > > > so 40/30x26 like this> > > > > >> > > > > > then we hav to add to rising degree or set ting degrees > > depending> > > > on> > > > > day> > > > > > or nite ,say one rasi is approx 5 nadika ,so u know .30 > > degree> > > > for> > > > > > 5nadika x 60( vinadika ) ,so 300 vinadikas for one rasi> > > > duration ,so> > > > > one> > > > > > degree is 10 vinadikas .( one nadika is 24 minits and one> > > > vinadika is> > > > > > 24 secnds )> > > > > >> > > > > > i will see the SW if the fellow made in english i will try to> > > > sent u .> > > > > >> > > > > > Actualy we hav to see all nava dodhas,like visha ,ushna> > > > ghatika ,rahu> > > > > > kala ,and other tertiary planets while doing a chart for> > > > delination> > > > > > .Also we hav to use panchanga effectively and combine in to> > > > dasas and> > > > > > charts .Other wise a replica chart of budha ( if u hav ) may > > b a> > > > > rogues> > > > > > chart these days ,tho all planets may b even in same degrees > > and> > > > rasis> > > > > > and chart is same .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > >> > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > >> > > > > > I will conct u tru prvt mail if the SW avilable in > > english .my> > > > version> > > > > > is malayalam only .So i even lost the manual calculation > > ability> > > > these> > > > > > days .> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > - -- In , "neelam > > gupta"> > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sunilji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Thanks for clarifying. I have already said in the earlier > > mail> > > > that> > > > > it> > > > > > is a> > > > > > > baby girl.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regarding Gulika, I never have enough confidence in its> > > > application.> > > > > > Each> > > > > > > software gives it own calculations and there are several > > ways> > > > of> > > > > > calculating> > > > > > > Gulika. Manual calculations seem too laborious. But it does> > > > give an> > > > > > > important indi cation if right gulika is applied rightly. > > Can't> > > > we> > > > > > right a> > > > > > > small software ourselves for the most authentic gulika> > > > calculation> > > > > and> > > > > > apply> > > > > > > it consistently in each chart. Which software are you > > using?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Then also, an important point was how to see the > > manifestation> > > > with> > > > > a> > > > > > > certain level of confidence? It appears easy in postmortem.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > Neelam> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear Ram jaiswal ji

Gulika is a mathematical point like rahu ketu and other non luminoury planets like parivesh ,artha prahara ,indra dhanus etc .

But gulika ,and nodes ( i dont know much abt other non luminouries ) we think has drishti es ,but some argue that 7th drishi of the nodes shud not take as they each other ( i mean rahu and ketu ) serve as drishties in 7th and take only trinal aspects ,also some takes 12th aspect also as they r always assumed as vakri .

And in case of gulika ( as kerala savanths ( i think old andra pundits also ) take gulika and mandi as one and use both names in similar context ) they can influence 7th house as they r opposite pair s.

Major part of them dont take other aspects too .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

 

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sunil ji> > Thanks for your thoughts - guess there can be No arguments with regards to> 7th Aspect by All Vedic savants ....> > Best wishes ....> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram> > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair> 13 July 2008 09:33> > Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa> and amsa dasa> > > Hare rama krishna> dear Ram jaswal ji > In that case why cant we take suns drishti for sani as his is father of> sani ,No traditionalists has some view and some Logic other than 7th drishti> which i dont know > > thanks for the query > > regrds sunil nair > > , "Ram Jaswal" rkjaswal@> wrote:> >> > Namaste Sunil ji> > > > some believe Gulika to be Sani's son - should one take Sani's aspects for> > Gulika as well?> > > > Best wishes .....> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram>

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sunil ji

 

Thanks for your additional thoughts ..

 

Yes - I am aware some people treat Gulika and Mandi as one and the same ..

 

My understanding for its calculation is to Divide Day Duration by 8 and

basically count up from Day Lord in order of weekdays to end of Sani's

portion and convert this into Hrs/Mins/Secs and calculate " Lagna " for this

time interval for Gulika's position. Similar for Night time except count

started from 5th Lord from Day Lord to end of Sani's portion.

 

Do you agree with calculation to include Sani's portion as well?

 

Thanks and best regards ..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

_____

 

 

On Behalf Of sunil nair

13 July 2008 16:07

 

Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa

and amsa dasa

 

 

Hare rama krishna

dear Ram jaiswal ji

Gulika is a mathematical point like rahu ketu and other non luminoury

planets like parivesh ,artha prahara ,indra dhanus etc .

But gulika ,and nodes ( i dont know much abt other non luminouries ) we

think has drishti es ,but some argue that 7th drishi of the nodes shud not

take as they each other ( i mean rahu and ketu ) serve as drishties in 7th

and take only trinal aspects ,also some takes 12th aspect also as they r

always assumed as vakri .

And in case of gulika ( as kerala savanths ( i think old andra pundits also

) take gulika and mandi as one and use both names in similar context ) they

can influence 7th house as they r opposite pair s.

Major part of them dont take other aspects too .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

 

 

, " Ram Jaswal " <rkjaswal

wrote:

>

> Namaste Sunil ji

>

> Thanks for your thoughts - guess there can be No arguments with regards to

> 7th Aspect by All Vedic savants ....

>

> Best wishes ....

>

> Jai Sita Ram

>

> Ram

>

> _____

>

>

> On Behalf Of sunil nair

> 13 July 2008 09:33

>

> Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa

> and amsa dasa

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

> dear Ram jaswal ji

> In that case why cant we take suns drishti for sani as his is father of

> sani ,No traditionalists has some view and some Logic other than 7th

drishti

> which i dont know

>

> thanks for the query

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> , " Ram Jaswal " rkjaswal@

> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sunil ji

> >

> > some believe Gulika to be Sani's son - should one take Sani's aspects

for

> > Gulika as well?

> >

> > Best wishes .....

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear Ram jaswal ji

pls see archives in grp and i posted some aspects on gulika and mandi and their calculation and yama part u r asking .

otherwise i realy done a discussion in lenght with very senior memebr in VA forum also ,and u can refer that also

 

hope this helps

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

, "Ram Jaswal" <rkjaswal wrote:>> Namaste Sunil ji> > Thanks for your additional thoughts ..> > Yes - I am aware some people treat Gulika and Mandi as one and the same ..> > My understanding for its calculation is to Divide Day Duration by 8 and> basically count up from Day Lord in order of weekdays to end of Sani's> portion and convert this into Hrs/Mins/Secs and calculate "Lagna" for this> time interval for Gulika's position. Similar for Night time except count> started from 5th Lord from Day Lord to end of Sani's portion.> > Do you agree with calculation to include Sani's portion as well?> > Thanks and best regards ..> > Jai Sita Ram> > Ram > > _____ > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair> 13 July 2008 16:07> > Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa> and amsa dasa> > > Hare rama krishna > dear Ram jaiswal ji > Gulika is a mathematical point like rahu ketu and other non luminoury> planets like parivesh ,artha prahara ,indra dhanus etc .> But gulika ,and nodes ( i dont know much abt other non luminouries ) we> think has drishti es ,but some argue that 7th drishi of the nodes shud not> take as they each other ( i mean rahu and ketu ) serve as drishties in 7th> and take only trinal aspects ,also some takes 12th aspect also as they r> always assumed as vakri .> And in case of gulika ( as kerala savanths ( i think old andra pundits also> ) take gulika and mandi as one and use both names in similar context ) they> can influence 7th house as they r opposite pair s.> Major part of them dont take other aspects too .> > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > , "Ram Jaswal" rkjaswal@> wrote:> >> > Namaste Sunil ji> > > > Thanks for your thoughts - guess there can be No arguments with regards to> > 7th Aspect by All Vedic savants ....> > > > Best wishes ....> > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > Ram> > > > _____ > > > > > > On Behalf Of sunil nair> > 13 July 2008 09:33> > > > Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--gulika dasa> > and amsa dasa> > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear Ram jaswal ji > > In that case why cant we take suns drishti for sani as his is father of> > sani ,No traditionalists has some view and some Logic other than 7th> drishti> > which i dont know > > > > thanks for the query > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > , "Ram Jaswal" rkjaswal@> > wrote:> > >> > > Namaste Sunil ji> > > > > > some believe Gulika to be Sani's son - should one take Sani's aspects> for> > > Gulika as well?> > > > > > Best wishes .....> > > > > > Jai Sita Ram> > > > > > Ram> >>

[Guest guest]

Dear Astrologers,

 

sorry for late reply ,

 

the baby is a female , and her father is a office attendent.

 

the baby is still in same situation. moving from hospital to

 

hospital.

 

i whole heartedly thank all the astrologers who has thrown light on

this subject.

 

Best regards

 

kiran kumar.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear Ram jaswal ji

>

> pls see archives in grp and i posted some aspects on gulika and

mandi

> and their calculation and yama part u r asking .

>

> otherwise i realy done a discussion in lenght with very senior

memebr

> in VA forum also ,and u can refer that also

>

>

>

> hope this helps

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

>

>

> , " Ram Jaswal "

> <rkjaswal@> wrote:

> >

> > Namaste Sunil ji

> >

> > Thanks for your additional thoughts ..

> >

> > Yes - I am aware some people treat Gulika and Mandi as one and

the

> same ..

> >

> > My understanding for its calculation is to Divide Day Duration

by 8

> and

> > basically count up from Day Lord in order of weekdays to end of

Sani's

> > portion and convert this into Hrs/Mins/Secs and

calculate " Lagna " for

> this

> > time interval for Gulika's position. Similar for Night time

except

> count

> > started from 5th Lord from Day Lord to end of Sani's portion.

> >

> > Do you agree with calculation to include Sani's portion as well?

> >

> > Thanks and best regards ..

> >

> > Jai Sita Ram

> >

> > Ram

> >

> > _____

> >

> >

> > On Behalf Of

sunil

> nair

> > 13 July 2008 16:07

> >

> > Re: Baby didnt open eyes.--

gulika

> dasa

> > and amsa dasa

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> > dear Ram jaiswal ji

> > Gulika is a mathematical point like rahu ketu and other non

luminoury

> > planets like parivesh ,artha prahara ,indra dhanus etc .

> > But gulika ,and nodes ( i dont know much abt other non

luminouries )

> we

> > think has drishti es ,but some argue that 7th drishi of the

nodes shud

> not

> > take as they each other ( i mean rahu and ketu ) serve as

drishties in

> 7th

> > and take only trinal aspects ,also some takes 12th aspect also

as they

> r

> > always assumed as vakri .

> > And in case of gulika ( as kerala savanths ( i think old andra

pundits

> also

> > ) take gulika and mandi as one and use both names in similar

context )

> they

> > can influence 7th house as they r opposite pair s.

> > Major part of them dont take other aspects too .

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > , " Ram Jaswal "

> rkjaswal@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Namaste Sunil ji

> > >

> > > Thanks for your thoughts - guess there can be No arguments with

> regards to

> > > 7th Aspect by All Vedic savants ....

> > >

> > > Best wishes ....

> > >

> > > Jai Sita Ram

> > >

> > > Ram

> > >

> > > _____

> > >

> > >

> > > On Behalf Of

sunil

> nair

> > > 13 July 2008 09:33

> > >

> > > Re: Baby didnt open

> eyes.--gulika dasa

> > > and amsa dasa

> > >

> > >

> > > Hare rama krishna

> > > dear Ram jaswal ji

> > > In that case why cant we take suns drishti for sani as his is

father

> of

> > > sani ,No traditionalists has some view and some Logic other

than 7th

> > drishti

> > > which i dont know

> > >

> > > thanks for the query

> > >

> > > regrds sunil nair

> > >

> > > , " Ram Jaswal "

> rkjaswal@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Namaste Sunil ji

> > > >

> > > > some believe Gulika to be Sani's son - should one take Sani's

> aspects

> > for

> > > > Gulika as well?

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes .....

> > > >

> > > > Jai Sita Ram

> > > >

> > > > Ram

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear Kiran ji

Thanks for feed backs ,pls keep us posted in any further devlpments

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

, "chagantikiran" <chagantikiran wrote:>> Dear Astrologers,> > sorry for late reply ,> > the baby is a female , and her father is a office attendent.> > the baby is still in same situation. moving from hospital to > > hospital.> > i whole heartedly thank all the astrologers who has thrown light on > this subject.> > Best regards> > kiran kumar.>