Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Shri Bhaskarji, Gopu ji and others, This is what KP says in "Rectification of Birth Time" When one is doubtful about his exact birth time , but says that it may be around 15 minutes this way or that, is there any method by which one can find out the exact movement of birth? Answer: I shall give some of the methods which are available. How far you can relay on them, is left entirrely to you, to the readers and to the research scholors: (1) Convert the approximate time of birth given in IST to Vighatis after Sunrise (Sunrise will be given in LMT to be converted to IST). Multiply by 4 and divide by 9. the reminder is the number of the star counted from Aswani, Makham or Moolam. Suppose Sun raises at 6 AM Birth is 8 AM. That is the birth took place 2 hours after Sunrise. 1 Day = 60 Ghatis = 3600 Vighatis 1 Hour = 2 1/2 Ghatis = 150 Gatis 1 Ghati = 24 Min. =60 Vighatis 1 Minute 2 2 1/2 Vighatis; 1 Vighati = 24 Seconds. If the birth is 2 hours after Sunrise then it means it is 5 Ghatis = 300 Vighatis. Multiply by 4 abd devide by 9 = Then, 300 x 4/9= 1200/9=133 3/9 Reminder is 3. That is, it means that Moon at the time of birth should be in the Nakshatra which is the 3rd from Aswani or Makham or Moolam. i.e., it may be Karthikai or Uthraphalguni or Uthrashada. But suppose the star is Chitri, then one is to find out that Vighti, next to the number of Vighitis given by consultant. He mentioned 8 AM. = 300 Vighatis after sunrise. So you should add or subtract 1 Vighati or 2 or 3 and so on till you get the reminder 5 which shows the three stars Mirgasirisha, Chitra and Dhanishta. Therfore if one is born at 305 Vightis or 296 Vighitis, the reminder after mutiplying by 4 and dividing by 9 will only be 5. But the person says that it may err to a maximum of fifteen minutes either way. Then find how many Vighatis will yeild the same result. The following Vighatis will give the reminder 5: 278, 287, 296, 305,314, 323, 332, 341 and so on. 278 Vighati is after 7.45 AM and 341 Vighati is before 8.15 AM Which will you give? 2. Another Method mentioned is as under: Note where Mandi was at the time of birth. The Lagna sign will be either 5 or 7 or 9 or 1 when counted from the sign occupied by Mandhi-- (Then altrnatives are given -either to Moon or Lagna, either in Rasi or Navamsa) If Mandi and Lagna are to be in 1, 5,7, or 9 the consultant asks, why theen the same author gives the results of Mandi occupying any house from Lagna i.e., the first, second, third, fourth etc., up to 12. How to reconcile? If the sign is either 5 0r 9 (for example) it could be useful to find the Lagna , correct to 30. If Navamsa is taken, the position of Lgna is correct to 3 D-30'. As the Navamsa Lagna changes roughly once in 13 to 14 minutes, how far will this calculation will give a precise answer? 3. In UTHRA KALAMITRA, it is said that the interval between Sunrise and the time of birth is to be converted in to Vighatis. Divide by 225 Then males are born if the reminder is 0 to 15; or, 45 and 90; or, between 150 and 225.Females are born if the reminder is between 15 and 45 or between 90 and 150. ""According to this method, we have to multiply 53- 3/4 Ghatis by 60 (he has taken the time of birth as 53 3/4 Ghatis) to convert them to Vighatis, thus 53 3/4 x 60 or 215 x 15. This has to be divided by 225. Thus, 215 x 15 divided by 225 gives a quotient of 14 and reminder of 75. This falls with in second Group (45 to 90) which shows the sex is 'male'. In the firsst example taken, when a first principle is applied, the birth may be between 278 and 341 Vighatis. So the reminder may be 53 or 62 or 71 or 80, or 89 or 98 or 106 or 115. So if the consultant is male (presuming tht the horoscope belongs to the consultant) then 55;62 or 71; 80 will be one of the timings. If the consultant is a lady, then the number of Vighatis will be 98 or 106 or 115 when both the rules 1 and 3 will be satisfied. "" I have copied from KP's Predictive Astriology for the group members' knowledge and information. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,North Carolina, 27514, USA001-919-960-3833 pathiav Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2008 5:29:00 AM Re:Twins_Chart Dear Shri Gopuji.Kp method is useful very much when the birth time is not complicated. Ifit is complicated, then I fiond the KP method too confusing ,for me torectify. This may be lack on my part, because I know many KP Mastersvouch for their methods of rectifications. In my case what comes outeasily, I am convinced, and where wild guesses have to be made, i am notconvinced.I will try to search for my mails regarding the KP method ofrectification in JR or the other forums,though it is diffciult for me tosearch for I think i may have posted above than a 1000 mails in last 2years. Or else alternatively send you some files of the otherastrologers where they have tried to show their methods.In the meanwhile I also have on my mind, the traditional approaches ofverufucation of he birth time, like pranapada etc. There are a few ofthem, but one needs quality time and patience to study, both which ihave less.I agree that the first breath constitutes as the moment to be recordedas the right Birth time. The cry at times may simultaneously come withthe first breath or come later.kind regards,Bhaskar.ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu <kgopu_24@.. .>wrote:>> dear Bhaskarji and others,> the progeny when it is in the mother's womb is called Foetus. thedevelopment of foetus starts with the cell multiplication afterfertililsation of the egg and the movement the heart is formed it startsbeating and it is an indication that the foetus is alive (formation ofheart starts with in 3-4weeks of fertilisation) . Probably if there is amedical doctor in the group they can explain the exact time ofdevelopement of heart of the foetus. so the foetus is totally dependantupon the mother till labour pains starts and the movement the foetusstarts coming out of the womb either naturally or surgically we call ita child and the time of birth is the time the child makes it s first cryie its first breath of the atmsophere on its own. Suppose there is adelay in the child crying or taking its first breath then we can say thechild had a transient arishtha. so some say that cutting of the umblicalcord is the time of birth whereas some say the first cry> is the time of birth. I am personally convinced that the first cry orthe first breath of the air is the right time of birth.However I havenot learned KP's method of analysis so I am unable to use therectification as per KP.>> good wishes,> k.gopu>>>> --- On Tue, 7/15/08, venkatachala pathi pathiav wrote:>> venkatachala pathi pathiav Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Twins_Chart> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, July 15, 2008, 9:06 PM>>>>>>>> Dear Bhaskar ji and Naidu ji,>> I request you both to kindly permit me to intrude and give theinformation gathered. The leading doctors opine, that the childreleases the hands, immediately it comes out of the mother's womb. Thisis an indication to the doctor that the child is alive and takes in thebreadth, which is its first experience to accept the atmospheric airpressure. This becomes easier when the nose is cleaned. But, the veryact of release of hands indicate the child is 'Born', and need not waitfor a cry, as it could come later when the child is 'drawn' upside downand 'sensitiveness' is created by 'shakes' or light pat to cause'vibration' etc.> Then, to answer Mr. Naidu, I am directed by a most eminent doctor,that the shake of hand could indicate the 'birth of child' and the crywould only will follow as it takes air through mouth, (perhaps inseconds) to 'prove' that the child is born. Now the inference of thebirth time is in your hands!>> A.V.Pathi,>> > K. P. Naidu konathalan (AT) (DOT) co.in>> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, July 15, 2008 10:33:58 AM> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Twins_Chart>> Dear shri Bhaskar Ji,>> I agree with your views.>> I request your clarification on the following :->> 1. The gynaecologist always tries after child birth to make the childcry. Some astrologers expressed their view that the new born cry neednot always be considered as 1st cry. sometimes the child cry late. Thatdoes not mean the child is not breathing from bierth to 1st cry.>> 2. My grand daughter, prematurely born, taken out by caeserianoperation, immediately put under oxygen, kept for 10 days in ICU. Herewhat is the Birth Time ?>> 3. Rectified / corrected BT is used for correct / successfulpredictions you said. How to confirm / verify the past life events ofthe native ? this may be test to verify the correctness of rectifiedBT.>> with Best wishes,>> Naidu KP>> K. P. Naidu,> .>> --- On Mon, 14/7/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com> wrote:>> Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ hathway.com>> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Twins_Chart> ancient_indian_ astrology> Monday, 14 July, 2008, 10:14 PM>> Dear Shri KP Naiduji,>> I endorse Your views in this mail.>> // I expressed my opinion that it is not so easy practically to record> the time of 1st breath. //>> This is precisely the reason why the Birth time needs to be rectifiedin> 90% of the cases. Because if You check in Your own room where You are> sitting now, the wrist watch would show some time, the wall clockwould> show another time, the wrist watch on your wifes hands may showanother> time, the Cell phone may show another time, and the Computer may show> another time in its settings.>> When the baby comes out of the womb, i am sure the Doctor would bebusy> in making it utter its first cry, or its first breath, the nurses> present may be busy in attention to attend to any emergency if any,the> subordinate staff may be ready with the sterlised water for washing,or> warm clothes or whatever may be needed. So how can we expect them to> record the correct time ?>> For the KP practioners if they have to do their work sincerely, they> have to mandatorily check and rectify the Birth times, as all> predictions are based on the Sub Lord. And the Sub lord changes very> fast, and is also the most important pointer for the events andquality> of the same. It is not done to record the first breath. It is done to> predict properly.>> // What man knows is speck in the ocean. One need not feel proud ofwith> speck of knowledge since unknown science is vast. //>> i agree with the former sentence. For the latter I would say thatevery> Indian must be proud of his Birth, evey Hindu must be proud of hisbeing> born in a Vaishnava family, every Doctor must be proud of his MBBS> Certificate, every Chartered accountant must be proud of his degree,> every daughter given in marriage must be proud of even a single saree> given to her by her poor father to her, and every Astrologer must be> proud of the speck of knowledge given to him by his Gurus if he is> confident of the benefic results arriving on application of the same.>> Do not worry about my outbursts. If You feel offended by same, then I> apologise. I am just not refined in my expressions and get worked up> very fast.>> best wishes,>> bhaskar.>>> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 16, 2008 Report Share Posted July 16, 2008 Dear Shri Bhaskar ji, My birth date 29/30/9/1929 TOB: 1.20AM on 30.9.1929. Now for you to determine my orrect birth time !!!! A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Wednesday, July 16, 2008 8:15:28 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Shri Pathiji, This is the reason that the Ruling Planets Method was invented and came to be in vogue, due to the inconsistencies in the other available methods. The Ruling Planets method removes all this calculations and bypasses the same, as the Planetary configurations at the time of judgement guide the person about the right birth time. We can take a Live example if one of you give us his Birth date and time of Birth, so that we can check with the Ruling Planets method whether this works or not in the case presented. But remember to give the correct recorded time , and not to test anyones abilities or capabilities. We are just taking a example so that all of us can learn the Ruling Method basics and then if satisfied can go to learn the advance techniques available in various books available in the market. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav > wrote: > > Dear Shri Bhaskarji, Gopu ji and others, > This is what KP says in " Rectification of Birth Time " > When one is doubtful about his exact birth time , but says that it may be around 15 minutes this way or that, is there any method by which one can find out the exact movement of birth? > Answer: I shall give some of the methods which are available. How far you can relay on them, is left entirrely to you, to the readers and to the research scholors: > (1) Convert the approximate time of birth given in IST to Vighatis after Sunrise (Sunrise will be given in LMT to be converted to IST). Multiply by 4 and divide by 9. the reminder is the number of the star counted from Aswani, Makham or Moolam. Suppose Sun raises at 6 AM Birth is 8 AM. That is the birth took place 2 hours after Sunrise. > 1 Day = 60 Ghatis = 3600 Vighatis > 1 Hour = 2 1/2 Ghatis = 150 Gatis > 1 Ghati = 24 Min. =60 Vighatis > 1 Minute 2 2 1/2 Vighatis; 1 Vighati = 24 Seconds. > If the birth is 2 hours after Sunrise then it means it is 5 Ghatis = 300 Vighatis. > Multiply by 4 abd devide by 9 = Then, 300 x 4/9= 1200/9=133 3/9 > Reminder is 3. That is, it means that Moon at the time of birth should be in the Nakshatra which is the 3rd from Aswani or Makham or Moolam. i.e., it may be Karthikai or Uthraphalguni or Uthrashada. > But suppose the star is Chitri, then one is to find out that Vighti, next to the number of Vighitis given by consultant. > He mentioned 8 AM. = 300 Vighatis after sunrise. So you should add or subtract 1 Vighati or 2 or 3 and so on till you get the reminder 5 which shows the three stars Mirgasirisha, Chitra and Dhanishta. > Therfore if one is born at 305 Vightis or 296 Vighitis, the reminder after mutiplying by 4 and dividing by 9 will only be 5. But the person says that it may err to a maximum of fifteen minutes either way. Then find how many Vighatis will yeild the same result. > The following Vighatis will give the reminder 5: > 278, 287, 296, 305,314, 323, 332, 341 and so on. > 278 Vighati is after 7.45 AM and 341 Vighati is before 8.15 AM > Which will you give? > 2. Another Method mentioned is as under: > Note where Mandi was at the time of birth. The Lagna sign will be either 5 or 7 or 9 or 1 when counted from the sign occupied by Mandhi-- (Then altrnatives are given -either to Moon or Lagna, either in Rasi or Navamsa) > If Mandi and Lagna are to be in 1, 5,7, or 9 the consultant asks, why theen the same author gives the results of Mandi occupying any house from Lagna i.e., the first, second, third, fourth etc., up to 12. > How to reconcile? > If the sign is either 5 0r 9 (for example) it could be useful to find the Lagna , correct to 30. > If Navamsa is taken, the position of Lgna is correct to 3 D-30'. As the Navamsa Lagna changes roughly once in 13 to 14 minutes, how far will this calculation will give a precise answer? > 3. In UTHRA KALAMITRA, it is said that the interval between Sunrise and the time of birth is to be converted in to Vighatis. > Divide by 225 > Then males are born if the reminder is 0 to 15; or, 45 and 90; or, between 150 and 225.Females are born if the reminder is between 15 and 45 or between 90 and 150. > " " According to this method, we have to multiply 53- 3/4 Ghatis by 60 (he has taken the time of birth as 53 3/4 Ghatis) to convert them to Vighatis, thus 53 3/4 x 60 or 215 x 15. This has to be divided by 225. Thus, 215 x 15 divided by 225 gives a quotient of 14 and reminder of 75. This falls with in second Group (45 to 90) which shows the sex is 'male'. > In the firsst example taken, when a first principle is applied, the birth may be between 278 and 341 Vighatis. So the reminder may be 53 or 62 or 71 or 80, or 89 or 98 or 106 or 115. So if the consultant is male (presuming tht the horoscope belongs to the consultant) then 55;62 or 71; 80 will be one of the timings. If the consultant is a lady, then the number of Vighatis will be 98 or 106 or 115 when both the rules 1 and 3 will be satisfied. " " > > I have copied from KP's Predictive Astriology for the group members' knowledge and information. > A.V.Pathi, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 dear shri Pathiji, thanks for the valuable information. good wishes, k.gopu --- On Wed, 7/16/08, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: venkatachala pathi <pathiav Re: Re:Rectification of birth time. Wednesday, July 16, 2008, 5:26 PM Dear Shri Bhaskarji, Gopu ji and others, This is what KP says in " Rectification of Birth Time " When one is doubtful about his exact birth time , but says that it may be around 15 minutes this way or that, is there any method by which one can find out the exact movement of birth? Answer: I shall give some of the methods which are available. How far you can relay on them, is left entirrely to you, to the readers and to the research scholors: (1) Convert the approximate time of birth given in IST to Vighatis after Sunrise (Sunrise will be given in LMT to be converted to IST). Multiply by 4 and divide by 9. the reminder is the number of the star counted from Aswani, Makham or Moolam. Suppose Sun raises at 6 AM Birth is 8 AM. That is the birth took place 2 hours after Sunrise. 1 Day = 60 Ghatis = 3600 Vighatis 1 Hour = 2 1/2 Ghatis = 150 Gatis 1 Ghati = 24 Min. =60 Vighatis 1 Minute 2 2 1/2 Vighatis; 1 Vighati = 24 Seconds. If the birth is 2 hours after Sunrise then it means it is 5 Ghatis = 300 Vighatis. Multiply by 4 abd devide by 9 = Then, 300 x 4/9= 1200/9=133 3/9 Reminder is 3. That is, it means that Moon at the time of birth should be in the Nakshatra which is the 3rd from Aswani or Makham or Moolam. i.e., it may be Karthikai or Uthraphalguni or Uthrashada. But suppose the star is Chitri, then one is to find out that Vighti, next to the number of Vighitis given by consultant. He mentioned 8 AM. = 300 Vighatis after sunrise. So you should add or subtract 1 Vighati or 2 or 3 and so on till you get the reminder 5 which shows the three stars Mirgasirisha, Chitra and Dhanishta. Therfore if one is born at 305 Vightis or 296 Vighitis, the reminder after mutiplying by 4 and dividing by 9 will only be 5. But the person says that it may err to a maximum of fifteen minutes either way. Then find how many Vighatis will yeild the same result. The following Vighatis will give the reminder 5: 278, 287, 296, 305,314, 323, 332, 341 and so on. 278 Vighati is after 7.45 AM and 341 Vighati is before 8.15 AM Which will you give? 2. Another Method mentioned is as under: Note where Mandi was at the time of birth. The Lagna sign will be either 5 or 7 or 9 or 1 when counted from the sign occupied by Mandhi-- (Then altrnatives are given -either to Moon or Lagna, either in Rasi or Navamsa) If Mandi and Lagna are to be in 1, 5,7, or 9 the consultant asks, why theen the same author gives the results of Mandi occupying any house from Lagna i.e., the first, second, third, fourth etc., up to 12. How to reconcile? If the sign is either 5 0r 9 (for example) it could be useful to find the Lagna , correct to 30. If Navamsa is taken, the position of Lgna is correct to 3 D-30'. As the Navamsa Lagna changes roughly once in 13 to 14 minutes, how far will this calculation will give a precise answer? 3. In UTHRA KALAMITRA, it is said that the interval between Sunrise and the time of birth is to be converted in to Vighatis. Divide by 225 Then males are born if the reminder is 0 to 15; or, 45 and 90; or, between 150 and 225.Females are born if the reminder is between 15 and 45 or between 90 and 150. " " According to this method, we have to multiply 53- 3/4 Ghatis by 60 (he has taken the time of birth as 53 3/4 Ghatis) to convert them to Vighatis, thus 53 3/4 x 60 or 215 x 15. This has to be divided by 225. Thus, 215 x 15 divided by 225 gives a quotient of 14 and reminder of 75. This falls with in second Group (45 to 90) which shows the sex is 'male'. In the firsst example taken, when a first principle is applied, the birth may be between 278 and 341 Vighatis. So the reminder may be 53 or 62 or 71 or 80, or 89 or 98 or 106 or 115. So if the consultant is male (presuming tht the horoscope belongs to the consultant) then 55;62 or 71; 80 will be one of the timings. If the consultant is a lady, then the number of Vighatis will be 98 or 106 or 115 when both the rules 1 and 3 will be satisfied. " " I have copied from KP's Predictive Astriology for the group members' knowledge and information. A.V.Pathi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Members, Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on. My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji. A.V.Pathi, illusive_2 <vreality_au Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. lovely post from you Bhaskar..thanks :)Suancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:>> > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a> elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding> vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not> deleting his messages but approving them.> > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may have> offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded person.> He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your> messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last message> and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this> when your message opens before the start of your message.> > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @> <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post?postID=aoSG\> tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu -OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\> Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000> > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small and> be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if> lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many members> bringing in different opinions on the same subject.> > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial> poston Birth rectification.> > Warm wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Shri Pathiji, Yes , we must move on. But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may. best wishes, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Members,> Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on.> My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji.> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > lovely post from you Bhaskar..> > thanks > Su> ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar" > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a> > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding> > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not> > deleting his messages but approving them.> > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may > have> > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded > person.> > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your> > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last > message> > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this> > when your message opens before the start of your message.> > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @> > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post?> postID=aoSG\> > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu -> OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\> > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000> > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small > and> > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if> > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many > members> > bringing in different opinions on the same subject.> > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial> > poston Birth rectification.> > > > Warm wishes,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years. Regards A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Shri Pathiji, Yes , we must move on. But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may. best wishes, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Members, > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on. > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji. > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > lovely post from you Bhaskar.. > > thanks > Su > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not > > deleting his messages but approving them. > > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may > have > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded > person. > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last > message > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this > > when your message opens before the start of your message. > > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post? > postID=aoSG\ > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu - > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\ > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000 > > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small > and > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many > members > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject. > > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial > > poston Birth rectification. > > > > Warm wishes, > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Shri Pathiji, Thats wonderful. You have excellence in the streams Astronomy and Logic thats really good to read. I have a house in Calcutta and some property ( Ancestral ) in Calcutta near Girish parh, Bada Bazaar, near Ganesh Talkies at corner of Strand road.. I have spent many holdiays in my younger days at New Alipore, all restearuants ( Including Flury's)Park Street, Chowringhee, enjoyed the Zoo, Planetarium, Birla Museeum, and the chaat at Victoria gardens, not to forget the Ganga ghats and Howrah bridge which all form a portion of some fond memories there. regards, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years.> > Regards> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > Dear Shri Pathiji,> Yes , we must move on.> But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may.> best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Members,> > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on.> > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji.> > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > >> >> >> > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > lovely post from you Bhaskar..> >> > thanks > > Su> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a> > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding> > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not> > > deleting his messages but approving them.> > >> > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may> > have> > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded> > person.> > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your> > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last> > message> > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this> > > when your message opens before the start of your message.> > >> > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @> > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post?> > postID=aoSG\> > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu -> > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\> > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000> > >> > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small> > and> > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if> > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many> > members> > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject.> > >> > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial> > > poston Birth rectification.> > >> > > Warm wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Pathi ji, I cast your chart and notice that Venus is in 12th house in D9. According some schools of thought who read bhavas in navamsha, this placement is very bad for marriage/married life. Hence, if you don't mind, can you share with us at what age did you get married and in general if your married life is a happy experience. I just want to validate that theory using your chart as one of the test cases. I know it is not correct to just go by the placement of one planet alone that too in navamsha. However, I have seen some senior astrologers coming to such conclusions based on the placement of one planet alone for this particular theory, and hence my question. Hope you will share the details. Regards, Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Shri Pathiji, Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ? regards, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years.> > Regards> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > Dear Shri Pathiji,> Yes , we must move on.> But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may.> best wishes,> Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Members,> > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on.> > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji.> > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > >> >> >> > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > lovely post from you Bhaskar..> >> > thanks > > Su> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > >> > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a> > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding> > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not> > > deleting his messages but approving them.> > >> > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may> > have> > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded> > person.> > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your> > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last> > message> > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this> > > when your message opens before the start of your message.> > >> > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @> > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post?> > postID=aoSG\> > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu -> > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\> > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000> > >> > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small> > and> > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if> > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many> > members> > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject.> > >> > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial> > > poston Birth rectification.> > >> > > Warm wishes,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > >> >> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, kub Balo! Happy that youknow so muh about calcutta (now Kakotta)!!! Regards, A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:22:05 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Shri Pathiji, Thats wonderful. \ You have excellence in the streams Astronomy and Logic thats really good to read. I have a house in Calcutta and some property ( Ancestral ) in Calcutta near Girish parh, Bada Bazaar, near Ganesh Talkies at corner of Strand road.. I have spent many holdiays in my younger days at New Alipore, all restearuants ( Including Flury's)Park Street, Chowringhee, enjoyed the Zoo, Planetarium, Birla Museeum, and the chaat at Victoria gardens, not to forget the Ganga ghats and Howrah bridge which all form a portion of some fond memories there. regards, \ Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years. > > Regards > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > Yes , we must move on. > But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Members, > > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on. > > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > lovely post from you Bhaskar.. > > > > thanks > > Su > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a > > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding > > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not > > > deleting his messages but approving them. > > > > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may > > have > > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded > > person. > > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your > > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last > > message > > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this > > > when your message opens before the start of your message. > > > > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ > > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post? > > postID=aoSG\ > > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu - > > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\ > > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000 > > > > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small > > and > > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if > > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many > > members > > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject. > > > > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial > > > poston Birth rectification. > > > > > > Warm wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji: In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many countries!! My ever lasting regards for you. A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Shri Pathiji, Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ? regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years. > > Regards > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > Yes , we must move on. > But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may. > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Members, > > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on. > > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > lovely post from you Bhaskar.. > > > > thanks > > Su > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a > > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding > > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not > > > deleting his messages but approving them. > > > > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may > > have > > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded > > person. > > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your > > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last > > message > > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this > > > when your message opens before the start of your message. > > > > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ > > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post? > > postID=aoSG\ > > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu - > > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\ > > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000 > > > > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small > > and > > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if > > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many > > members > > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject. > > > > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial > > > poston Birth rectification. > > > > > > Warm wishes, > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Pathiji, Thnk You for the positive response.I have rectified your birth time as 1.26.33 This is just for your info, though I am not going to put the rectification process here, as its too lengthy to explain in your case. After rectifying the time I had put the queryto you, to confirm the correctness. regards,Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Bhaskar ji:> In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many countries!!> > My ever lasting regards for you.> > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > Dear Shri Pathiji,> Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ?> regards,> Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years.> > > > Regards> > > > A.V.Pathi, > >> > > >> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > Dear Shri Pathiji,> > Yes , we must move on.> > But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may.> > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> > >> > > Members,> > > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move on.> > > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji.> > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > >> > >> > >> > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> > >> > >> > > lovely post from you Bhaskar..> > >> > > thanks > > > Su> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji,> > > >> > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He is a> > > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not responding> > > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your not> > > > deleting his messages but approving them.> > > >> > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He may> > > have> > > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded> > > person.> > > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all Your> > > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last> > > message> > > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find this> > > > when your message opens before the start of your message.> > > >> > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @> > > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology /post?> > > postID=aoSG\> > > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu -> > > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\> > > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000> > > >> > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be small> > > and> > > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic if> > > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many> > > members> > > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject.> > > >> > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my initial> > > > poston Birth rectification.> > > >> > > > Warm wishes,> > > >> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Shri Krishnaji, I was married on 19th August 1962. My marriage happened in three months as it was love at first sight, and I made my decision. I am a self made person and none helped me whatsoever in all - repeat, all- my life till today. I lost my father when I was 14 years 3 month 5 days old. I am the only son.I worked and completed my studies. I have two daughters and one son and he is the middle pin. My married life is excellent and we are the happiest couple in our family. My story could be tagged as 'rag to riches'. My wife is with me here, and we travel together wherever we travel. I do not have to go to any doctor for last 60 years for any sickness except for some medical examinations for producing medical certificates to authorities or for attending my dentures. I have two world famous doctors as my sons in law. I am the senior most elderly person in this family. I say these, for these facts could help you. Regards. A.V.Pathi, 103, Black Tie Lane, Chapel Hill,North Carolina, 27514, USA001-919-960-3833 Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2008 10:49:41 AM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Pathi ji,I cast your chart and notice that Venus is in 12th house in D9. According some schools of thought who read bhavas in navamsha, this placement is very bad for marriage/married life. Hence, if you don't mind, can you share with us at what age did you get married and in general if your married life is a happy experience. I just want to validate that theory using your chart as one of the test cases. I know it is not correct to just go by the placement of one planet alone that too in navamsha. However, I have seen some senior astrologers coming to such conclusions based on the placement of one planet alone for this particular theory, and hence my question.Hope you will share the details.Regards,Krishna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, Great effort. I have noted my birth time. Thank you again. God bless you and your family with plenty and prosperity. 'Great' is the word for what you had done. All members of my family here greatly appritiate your efforts, and sending there gratitude through me now, as I was avoiding this for them for a long long time. A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:36:42 PM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Pathiji, Thnk You for the positive response. I have rectified your birth time as 1.26.33 This is just for your info, though I am not going to put the rectification process here, as its too lengthy to explain in your case. After rectifying the time I had put the query to you, to confirm the correctness. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar ji: > In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many countries!! > > My ever lasting regards for you. > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ? > regards, > Bhaskar. > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years. > > > > Regards > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear bhasker ji, I read rectified time of pathiji. You should explain theories behind this for the benefit of group. Regards, sanjeev , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Pathiji, > > Thnk You for the positive response. > I have rectified your birth time as > 1.26.33 > > This is just for your info, though I am not > going to put the rectification process here, > as its too lengthy to explain in your case. > > After rectifying the time I had put the query > to you, to confirm the correctness. > > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > > > , venkatachala pathi > <pathiav@> wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji: > > In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, > and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th > December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many > countries!! > > > > My ever lasting regards for you. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM > > Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > > Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 > ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi > pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in > Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 > languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, > Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I > lived in Calcutta for over 18years. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 7:52:15 AM > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > > > Yes , we must move on. > > > But I want to know the place where you were born, if you may. > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala > pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Members, > > > > Let us forget 14th June 2008 and the exchange of letters and move > on. > > > > My special regards to Bhasker ji and Sreenath ji. > > > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > illusive_2 vreality_au@ ... > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:58:55 AM > > > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth > time. > > > > > > > > > > > > lovely post from you Bhaskar.. > > > > > > > > thanks > > > > Su > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji and Dear Shri Sunil Nairji, > > > > > > > > > > Shri Nairji I beg pardon from You on behalf of Shri Pathiji. He > is a > > > > > elderly memmber, and You have done the right thing by not > responding > > > > > vociferously. He is like a Father figure. I also appreciate your > not > > > > > deleting his messages but approving them. > > > > > > > > > > Shri Pathiji I beg pardon from you on behalf of Shri Nairji. He > may > > > > have > > > > > offended you though by heart I know he is a very justice minded > > > > person. > > > > > He is one of the Moderators here, if you are not aware. See all > Your > > > > > messages too are approved by Him only. If You go to your last > > > > message > > > > > and on the right hand side click on View Source- You would find > this > > > > > when your message opens before the start of your message. > > > > > > > > > > X-eGroups-Approved- By: astro_tellerkerala <astro_tellerkerala @ > > > > > <http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology > /post? > > > > postID=aoSG\ > > > > > tKtx2OM16gqu4zrjurf 26eELkFFaIXK_ UsVtouUi5mLoY3Gu - > > > > OeB3ueB9VsZ147nAirn s2g2\ > > > > > Jm-yVFshIzM1dLo> > via web; 16 Jul 2008 21:23:47 -0000 > > > > > > > > > > We must fight for bigger issues, and again fights should be > small > > > > and > > > > > be done and over with fast and move to the next topic. Any topic > if > > > > > lingered on for long is bound to stir up the heat, with so many > > > > members > > > > > bringing in different opinions on the same subject. > > > > > > > > > > I am sorry to all for the misunderstanding created due to my > initial > > > > > poston Birth rectification. > > > > > > > > > > Warm wishes, > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 Dear Shri Pathiji, That is mighty kind of you. My scales which i have set for myself, i am nowhere near them. Your good wishes and blessings would help me in achieving them. kind regards, Bhaskar. , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote:>> Dear Bhaskarji,> Great effort. I have noted my birth time. Thank you again.> God bless you and your family with plenty and prosperity. 'Great' is the word for what you had done. All members of my family here greatly appritiate your efforts, and sending there gratitude through me now, as I was avoiding this for them for a long long time.> > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:36:42 PM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > Dear Pathiji,> Thnk You for the positive response.> I have rectified your birth time as> 1.26.33> This is just for your info, though I am not> going to put the rectification process here,> as its too lengthy to explain in your case.> After rectifying the time I had put the query> to you, to confirm the correctness.> regards,> Bhaskar.> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar ji:> > In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many countries!!> >> > My ever lasting regards for you.> > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > >> >> >> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > Dear Shri Pathiji,> > Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ?> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > >> > > > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > >> > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 17, 2008 Report Share Posted July 17, 2008 My dearest Bhaskar ji, Blerss you with plenty and prosperity in many many years to come. A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Thursday, July 17, 2008 3:09:22 PM Re:Rectification of birth time. Dear Shri Pathiji, That is mighty kind of you. My scales which i have set for myself, i am nowhere near them. Your good wishes and blessings would help me in achieving them. kind regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > Dear Bhaskarji, > Great effort. I have noted my birth time. Thank you again. > God bless you and your family with plenty and prosperity. 'Great' is the word for what you had done. All members of my family here greatly appritiate your efforts, and sending there gratitude through me now, as I was avoiding this for them for a long long time. > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:36:42 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Pathiji, > Thnk You for the positive response. > I have rectified your birth time as > 1.26.33 > This is just for your info, though I am not > going to put the rectification process here, > as its too lengthy to explain in your case. > After rectifying the time I had put the query > to you, to confirm the correctness. > regards, > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji: > > In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln. UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many countries!! > > > > My ever lasting regards for you. > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > Dear Shri Pathiji, > > Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june 2007 ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi pathiav@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskarji, > > > > > > > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6 languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College, Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I lived in Calcutta for over 18years. > > > > > > Regards > > > > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Hare rama krishna respected bhaskar ji , That was very impressive and i congatulate u . Pls continue your gr8 mission in life ,we got one more tool to rectify the birth time i blv . even tho we discussed and i know abt it ,Now the grp also exprnced the efficacy of ur methods regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> > > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 1:36:42 PM> > Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > Dear Pathiji,> > Thnk You for the positive response.> > I have rectified your birth time as> > 1.26.33> > This is just for your info, though I am not> > going to put the rectification process here,> > as its too lengthy to explain in your case.> > After rectifying the time I had put the query> > to you, to confirm the correctness.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> >> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala pathi> pathiav@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Bhaskar ji:> > > In Dec 2007 my daughter had purchased her fourth house in Lincoln.> UK, and I moved from the earlier house to the new house. Frankly after> 7th December 1990. I am a 'nomad' for last 18 years visiting many> countries!!> > >> > > My ever lasting regards for you.> > >> > > A.V.Pathi,> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > Thursday, July 17, 2008 11:11:58 AM> > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> > >> > >> > > Dear Shri Pathiji,> > > Did You enter/Purchase a new House/Property last year after june> 2007 ?> > > regards,> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, venkatachala> pathi pathiav@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Bhaskarji,> > > >> > > >> > > > I was born in Chennai. My Parents (both) belonged to Guruvayoor> in Kerala. I lived in all parts of India for over 34 years and talk 6> languages apart from English. I am B.A.Hons. Madras Presidency College,> Chennai, Gold Medalist in Astronomy and Logic (A double graduate). I> lived in Calcutta for over 18years.> > > >> > > > Regards> > > >> > > > A.V.Pathi,> > > >> > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Su, Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures. The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic. Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments. The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka. regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Marin, Your question makes sense to me. I was thinking on those lines. So if the place of judgement is the place of inquiry, then supposing a person asks for BT rectifing at the click of a mouse, to ten different people all over the world, then it is likely, due to the geographical locations, that atleast one out of the ten will come out with the finding that the given BT itself is correct. Do you agree. We have to wait unitl Bhaskarji returns to answer our question Rgds, bhagavathi , ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Thank you for the guideline that you have provided for b.t. rectification, I have been trying to find a way to rectify my b.t. , and to be sincere I was just about to quit and ask for help. > With the assistance of your guideline I will try again until success is accomplished. > > I do have a question, could you please explain to me so there will not be an incorrect understanding in my part that may gave a negative result. What I'm refereeing is about what you mention: //place of judgment & time of judjement// ? > what I understand is the following, and please correct me if I am wrong: place of judgment is the ( default location, or geographical location where the inquire is taking place; and so the time in which is initiated?) > > thank you for your enlightenment > > Fraternally Yours > Eligio > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > Re:Rectification of birth time. > > Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:01 AM > Dear Sanjeevji , > I will illustrate how to check whether Birth time is accurate or not, > in just one example as under. > > Here is a lady whose date of Birth is 26th August 1956. > Place of Birth- Not known. Lat - 28 N 38 Long 77 E 12 > Time of Birth 04.01.36 > Now i want to check the accuracy of this birth time > given, before I start studying the same. > > Next step > Now we must first check at the time of Judgement by > the astrologer , what is the planetary Configurations. > Place of Judgement Bombay Time of judgement 19.37.25 > Date -Today 18th July 2008. > > Lagna is Capricorn - Lord is Saturn > Moon star is U. Asadha - Lord is Sun > Moon raashi is capricorn - Lord is Saturn > Day is Friday - Lord Venus > > The above is known as the LSRD Method. > L stands for Lagna Lord > S stands for Moon star lord > R stands for Moon Rashi Lord > D stands for Day Lord. > > Note down these Lords and remember that if You find rahu or ketu > in the rashis of the above planets, then write rahu and Ketu alongwith the > above planets. > Rahu is presently in Saturns raashi > > So the LSRD Planets would be - Saturn,Sun,Rahu and Venus. > > If the difference is just a few minutes as per the client, then the best way > to check is , look at the SubLord of the ascendant when you make a > chart as per the clients given time of birth. The Sub Lord is a planet. > Does this SubLord planet match the planets in Your LSRD ? > If it does, then your birth time is absulutely right. > > In this lady,s case her chart shows Ascendant Lord as Moon, > Star lord as Saturn, and Sub Lord as Rahu. > > Check whether the sublord Rahu is there in Your LSRD Planets ? > yes its there. > > This is a most perfect birth time recorded, as even the > Star Lord Saturn, and even the Sub Lord, Rahu, > both these planets are in our Group of LSRD Planets. > > Her Birth time is perfect , and we can now confidently move ahead > to study the chart and start predicting. > > Now be Careful > There are further rules in the Ruling Planets method. > As you will advance in your studies, you will learn how to use them. > At times we have to use Ascendant Star Lord too of the time of judgement. > Retrograde planets or Planets in LSRD in constellations of retrograde > planets have to be kept behind the screen. > > Suppose the Sub Lord had not matched the LSRD ? > Then you would have had to move the birth time, either forward > or behind by few seconds to few minutes, to make the > SubLord Planet, one from among the LSRD Planets You have noted. > > What about rectification when hours difference and days differnece and months difference is here ? > > This too can be done from the Ruling Planets method, but of course this needs expertise and practise, For most of you the charts that would be coming would mainly have difference of few minutes here or there. > > In Mr.Pathis chart, the rectification was a bit complicated, hence did not > put it here. I want people to understand and then move forward. > > The above is a most simple way of checking the accuracy of the Birth time, and takes 2 minutes maximum, to verify, and 5 minutes to 1 hour to rectify , if the birth time is not accurate. > > The above lady, is Mrs. Menaka Gandhi. > I picked her chart at random, after coming from office for verification method, and after having my tea, sat down to verify, and happy with the results. > > There is no need to wait for learning full KP. till then you can start. > There is no need to buy any software. Shri Narsimha Rao jindabad. > Use his J.Hora. > > And remember always, those who wish to learn more, must learn to share more, whatever they have and possess. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear bhasker ji, > > I read rectified time of pathiji. You should explain theories behind > > this for the benefit of group. > > Regards, > > sanjeev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Pathiji, > > > > > > Thnk You for the positive response. > > > I have rectified your birth time as > > > 1.26.33 > > > > > > This is just for your info, though I am not > > > going to put the rectification process here, > > > as its too lengthy to explain in your case. > > > > > > After rectifying the time I had put the query > > > to you, to confirm the correctness. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Bhagavathiji, We are now talking of extremes. Which does not happen in real Life. But suppose it does happen by members as we see them coming out with bowls on various Internet Jyotish forums simultaneously, the nature would never allow this person ( Native enquiring ) access to even one good astrologer, leave alone 10 astrologers all around the globe. Its just not possible. One can fool oneself but not the nature. Bhaskar. , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear Marin,> > Your question makes sense to me. I was thinking on those lines. So if > the place of judgement is the place of inquiry, then supposing a > person asks for BT rectifing at the click of a mouse, to ten > different people all over the world, then it is likely, due to the > geographical locations, that atleast one out of the ten will come out > with the finding that the given BT itself is correct. Do you agree.> > We have to wait unitl Bhaskarji returns to answer our question> > Rgds,> bhagavathi > > > > > , ELIGIO MARIN > tio_eligio@ wrote:> >> > Dear Bhaskar,> > > > Thank you for the guideline that you have provided for b.t. > rectification, I have been trying to find a way to rectify my b.t. , > and to be sincere I was just about to quit and ask for help.> > With the assistance of your guideline I will try again until > success is accomplished.> > > > I do have a question, could you please explain to me so there will > not be an incorrect understanding in my part that may gave a negative > result. What I'm refereeing is about what you mention: //place of > judgment & time of judjement// ?> > what I understand is the following, and please correct me if I am > wrong: place of judgment is the ( default location, or geographical > location where the inquire is taking place; and so the time in which > is initiated?)> > > > thank you for your enlightenment> > > > Fraternally Yours> > Eligio > > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@> > Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > > Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:01 AM> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjeevji ,> > I will illustrate how to check whether Birth time is accurate or > not,> > in just one example as under.> > > > Here is a lady whose date of Birth is 26th August 1956.> > Place of Birth- Not known. Lat - 28 N 38 Long 77 E 12> > Time of Birth 04.01.36> > Now i want to check the accuracy of this birth time> > given, before I start studying the same.> > > > Next step> > Now we must first check at the time of Judgement by> > the astrologer , what is the planetary Configurations.> > Place of Judgement Bombay Time of judgement 19.37.25> > Date -Today 18th July 2008.> > > > Lagna is Capricorn - Lord is Saturn> > Moon star is U. Asadha - Lord is Sun> > Moon raashi is capricorn - Lord is Saturn> > Day is Friday - Lord Venus> > > > The above is known as the LSRD Method.> > L stands for Lagna Lord> > S stands for Moon star lord> > R stands for Moon Rashi Lord> > D stands for Day Lord.> > > > Note down these Lords and remember that if You find rahu or ketu> > in the rashis of the above planets, then write rahu and Ketu > alongwith the> > above planets. > > Rahu is presently in Saturns raashi> > > > So the LSRD Planets would be - Saturn,Sun,Rahu and Venus.> > > > If the difference is just a few minutes as per the client, then the > best way> > to check is , look at the SubLord of the ascendant when you make a> > chart as per the clients given time of birth. The Sub Lord is a > planet.> > Does this SubLord planet match the planets in Your LSRD ?> > If it does, then your birth time is absulutely right.> > > > In this lady,s case her chart shows Ascendant Lord as Moon,> > Star lord as Saturn, and Sub Lord as Rahu.> > > > Check whether the sublord Rahu is there in Your LSRD Planets ?> > yes its there. > > > > This is a most perfect birth time recorded, as even the> > Star Lord Saturn, and even the Sub Lord, Rahu,> > both these planets are in our Group of LSRD Planets.> > > > Her Birth time is perfect , and we can now confidently move ahead> > to study the chart and start predicting.> > > > Now be Careful> > There are further rules in the Ruling Planets method.> > As you will advance in your studies, you will learn how to use them.> > At times we have to use Ascendant Star Lord too of the time of > judgement.> > Retrograde planets or Planets in LSRD in constellations of > retrograde> > planets have to be kept behind the screen.> > > > Suppose the Sub Lord had not matched the LSRD ?> > Then you would have had to move the birth time, either forward> > or behind by few seconds to few minutes, to make the> > SubLord Planet, one from among the LSRD Planets You have noted. > > > > What about rectification when hours difference and days differnece > and months difference is here ?> > > > This too can be done from the Ruling Planets method, but of course > this needs expertise and practise, For most of you the charts that > would be coming would mainly have difference of few minutes here or > there.> > > > In Mr.Pathis chart, the rectification was a bit complicated, hence > did not> > put it here. I want people to understand and then move forward.> > > > The above is a most simple way of checking the accuracy of the > Birth time, and takes 2 minutes maximum, to verify, and 5 minutes to > 1 hour to rectify , if the birth time is not accurate.> > > > The above lady, is Mrs. Menaka Gandhi. > > I picked her chart at random, after coming from office for > verification method, and after having my tea, sat down to verify, and > happy with the results.> > > > There is no need to wait for learning full KP. till then you can > start.> > There is no need to buy any software. Shri Narsimha Rao jindabad.> > Use his J.Hora. > > > > And remember always, those who wish to learn more, must learn to > share more, whatever they have and possess.> > > > best wishes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "pashu_sanju" > <pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear bhasker ji,> > > I read rectified time of pathiji. You should explain theories > behind> > > this for the benefit of group.> > > Regards,> > > sanjeev> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "Bhaskar"> > > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Pathiji,> > > >> > > > Thnk You for the positive response.> > > > I have rectified your birth time as> > > > 1.26.33> > > >> > > > This is just for your info, though I am not> > > > going to put the rectification process here,> > > > as its too lengthy to explain in your case.> > > >> > > > After rectifying the time I had put the query> > > > to you, to confirm the correctness.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > Bhaskar.> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Bhagavathi, I am sorry to say that I disagree with you in your last statement. the important fact first, is to establish a proper way to accomplish the task, which is to find a corrected b.t.. I see your point of view, but we must understand logic, also astrology is said to be not perfect 100%, but it does work. Let us move on with the first step which has been already provided by Bhaskar, and I am tankfull for his prompt response, and glad to know that I was in the right track, but I had to ask a question in order to assure my self that my understanding was correct. Fraternally Eligio --- On Fri, 7/18/08, bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote: bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan Re:Rectification of birth time. Friday, July 18, 2008, 11:52 AM Dear Marin, Your question makes sense to me. I was thinking on those lines. So if the place of judgement is the place of inquiry, then supposing a person asks for BT rectifing at the click of a mouse, to ten different people all over the world, then it is likely, due to the geographical locations, that atleast one out of the ten will come out with the finding that the given BT itself is correct. Do you agree. We have to wait unitl Bhaskarji returns to answer our question Rgds, bhagavathi ancient_indian_ astrology, ELIGIO MARIN <tio_eligio@ ...> wrote: > > Dear Bhaskar, > > Thank you for the guideline that you have provided for b.t. rectification, I have been trying to find a way to rectify my b.t. , and to be sincere I was just about to quit and ask for help. > With the assistance of your guideline I will try again until success is accomplished. > > I do have a question, could you please explain to me so there will not be an incorrect understanding in my part that may gave a negative result. What I'm refereeing is about what you mention: //place of judgment & time of judjement// ? > what I understand is the following, and please correct me if I am wrong: place of judgment is the ( default location, or geographical location where the inquire is taking place; and so the time in which is initiated?) > > thank you for your enlightenment > > Fraternally Yours > Eligio > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises@ ...> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:01 AM > Dear Sanjeevji , > I will illustrate how to check whether Birth time is accurate or not, > in just one example as under. > > Here is a lady whose date of Birth is 26th August 1956. > Place of Birth- Not known. Lat - 28 N 38 Long 77 E 12 > Time of Birth 04.01.36 > Now i want to check the accuracy of this birth time > given, before I start studying the same. > > Next step > Now we must first check at the time of Judgement by > the astrologer , what is the planetary Configurations. > Place of Judgement Bombay Time of judgement 19.37.25 > Date -Today 18th July 2008. > > Lagna is Capricorn - Lord is Saturn > Moon star is U. Asadha - Lord is Sun > Moon raashi is capricorn - Lord is Saturn > Day is Friday - Lord Venus > > The above is known as the LSRD Method. > L stands for Lagna Lord > S stands for Moon star lord > R stands for Moon Rashi Lord > D stands for Day Lord. > > Note down these Lords and remember that if You find rahu or ketu > in the rashis of the above planets, then write rahu and Ketu alongwith the > above planets. > Rahu is presently in Saturns raashi > > So the LSRD Planets would be - Saturn,Sun,Rahu and Venus. > > If the difference is just a few minutes as per the client, then the best way > to check is , look at the SubLord of the ascendant when you make a > chart as per the clients given time of birth. The Sub Lord is a planet. > Does this SubLord planet match the planets in Your LSRD ? > If it does, then your birth time is absulutely right. > > In this lady,s case her chart shows Ascendant Lord as Moon, > Star lord as Saturn, and Sub Lord as Rahu. > > Check whether the sublord Rahu is there in Your LSRD Planets ? > yes its there. > > This is a most perfect birth time recorded, as even the > Star Lord Saturn, and even the Sub Lord, Rahu, > both these planets are in our Group of LSRD Planets. > > Her Birth time is perfect , and we can now confidently move ahead > to study the chart and start predicting. > > Now be Careful > There are further rules in the Ruling Planets method. > As you will advance in your studies, you will learn how to use them. > At times we have to use Ascendant Star Lord too of the time of judgement. > Retrograde planets or Planets in LSRD in constellations of retrograde > planets have to be kept behind the screen. > > Suppose the Sub Lord had not matched the LSRD ? > Then you would have had to move the birth time, either forward > or behind by few seconds to few minutes, to make the > SubLord Planet, one from among the LSRD Planets You have noted. > > What about rectification when hours difference and days differnece and months difference is here ? > > This too can be done from the Ruling Planets method, but of course this needs expertise and practise, For most of you the charts that would be coming would mainly have difference of few minutes here or there. > > In Mr.Pathis chart, the rectification was a bit complicated, hence did not > put it here. I want people to understand and then move forward. > > The above is a most simple way of checking the accuracy of the Birth time, and takes 2 minutes maximum, to verify, and 5 minutes to 1 hour to rectify , if the birth time is not accurate. > > The above lady, is Mrs. Menaka Gandhi. > I picked her chart at random, after coming from office for verification method, and after having my tea, sat down to verify, and happy with the results. > > There is no need to wait for learning full KP. till then you can start. > There is no need to buy any software. Shri Narsimha Rao jindabad. > Use his J.Hora. > > And remember always, those who wish to learn more, must learn to share more, whatever they have and possess. > > best wishes, > Bhaskar. > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " pashu_sanju " <pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear bhasker ji, > > I read rectified time of pathiji. You should explain theories behind > > this for the benefit of group. > > Regards, > > sanjeev > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Pathiji, > > > > > > Thnk You for the positive response. > > > I have rectified your birth time as > > > 1.26.33 > > > > > > This is just for your info, though I am not > > > going to put the rectification process here, > > > as its too lengthy to explain in your case. > > > > > > After rectifying the time I had put the query > > > to you, to confirm the correctness. > > > > > > regards, > > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 18, 2008 Report Share Posted July 18, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, I agree, well said. Thank you for all your kind efforts. Rgds, bhagavathi , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Bhagavathiji, > > We are now talking of extremes. Which does not happen in real Life. But > suppose it does happen by members as we see them coming out with bowls > on various Internet Jyotish forums simultaneously, the nature would > never allow this person ( Native enquiring ) access to even one good > astrologer, leave alone 10 astrologers all around the globe. Its just > not possible. > > One can fool oneself but not the nature. > > Bhaskar. > > > --- In , " bhagavathi_hariharan " > <bhagavathi_hariharan@> wrote: > > > > Dear Marin, > > > > Your question makes sense to me. I was thinking on those lines. So if > > the place of judgement is the place of inquiry, then supposing a > > person asks for BT rectifing at the click of a mouse, to ten > > different people all over the world, then it is likely, due to the > > geographical locations, that atleast one out of the ten will come out > > with the finding that the given BT itself is correct. Do you agree. > > > > We have to wait unitl Bhaskarji returns to answer our question > > > > Rgds, > > bhagavathi > > > > > > > > > > , ELIGIO MARIN > > tio_eligio@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear Bhaskar, > > > > > > Thank you for the guideline that you have provided for b.t. > > rectification, I have been trying to find a way to rectify my b.t. , > > and to be sincere I was just about to quit and ask for help. > > > With the assistance of your guideline I will try again until > > success is accomplished. > > > > > > I do have a question, could you please explain to me so there will > > not be an incorrect understanding in my part that may gave a negative > > result. What I'm refereeing is about what you mention: //place of > > judgment & time of judjement// ? > > > what I understand is the following, and please correct me if I am > > wrong: place of judgment is the ( default location, or geographical > > location where the inquire is taking place; and so the time in which > > is initiated?) > > > > > > thank you for your enlightenment > > > > > > Fraternally Yours > > > Eligio > > > > > > --- On Fri, 7/18/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ > > > Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > Friday, July 18, 2008, 10:01 AM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sanjeevji , > > > I will illustrate how to check whether Birth time is accurate or > > not, > > > in just one example as under. > > > > > > Here is a lady whose date of Birth is 26th August 1956. > > > Place of Birth- Not known. Lat - 28 N 38 Long 77 E 12 > > > Time of Birth 04.01.36 > > > Now i want to check the accuracy of this birth time > > > given, before I start studying the same. > > > > > > Next step > > > Now we must first check at the time of Judgement by > > > the astrologer , what is the planetary Configurations. > > > Place of Judgement Bombay Time of judgement 19.37.25 > > > Date -Today 18th July 2008. > > > > > > Lagna is Capricorn - Lord is Saturn > > > Moon star is U. Asadha - Lord is Sun > > > Moon raashi is capricorn - Lord is Saturn > > > Day is Friday - Lord Venus > > > > > > The above is known as the LSRD Method. > > > L stands for Lagna Lord > > > S stands for Moon star lord > > > R stands for Moon Rashi Lord > > > D stands for Day Lord. > > > > > > Note down these Lords and remember that if You find rahu or ketu > > > in the rashis of the above planets, then write rahu and Ketu > > alongwith the > > > above planets. > > > Rahu is presently in Saturns raashi > > > > > > So the LSRD Planets would be - Saturn,Sun,Rahu and Venus. > > > > > > If the difference is just a few minutes as per the client, then the > > best way > > > to check is , look at the SubLord of the ascendant when you make a > > > chart as per the clients given time of birth. The Sub Lord is a > > planet. > > > Does this SubLord planet match the planets in Your LSRD ? > > > If it does, then your birth time is absulutely right. > > > > > > In this lady,s case her chart shows Ascendant Lord as Moon, > > > Star lord as Saturn, and Sub Lord as Rahu. > > > > > > Check whether the sublord Rahu is there in Your LSRD Planets ? > > > yes its there. > > > > > > This is a most perfect birth time recorded, as even the > > > Star Lord Saturn, and even the Sub Lord, Rahu, > > > both these planets are in our Group of LSRD Planets. > > > > > > Her Birth time is perfect , and we can now confidently move ahead > > > to study the chart and start predicting. > > > > > > Now be Careful > > > There are further rules in the Ruling Planets method. > > > As you will advance in your studies, you will learn how to use them. > > > At times we have to use Ascendant Star Lord too of the time of > > judgement. > > > Retrograde planets or Planets in LSRD in constellations of > > retrograde > > > planets have to be kept behind the screen. > > > > > > Suppose the Sub Lord had not matched the LSRD ? > > > Then you would have had to move the birth time, either forward > > > or behind by few seconds to few minutes, to make the > > > SubLord Planet, one from among the LSRD Planets You have noted. > > > > > > What about rectification when hours difference and days differnece > > and months difference is here ? > > > > > > This too can be done from the Ruling Planets method, but of course > > this needs expertise and practise, For most of you the charts that > > would be coming would mainly have difference of few minutes here or > > there. > > > > > > In Mr.Pathis chart, the rectification was a bit complicated, hence > > did not > > > put it here. I want people to understand and then move forward. > > > > > > The above is a most simple way of checking the accuracy of the > > Birth time, and takes 2 minutes maximum, to verify, and 5 minutes to > > 1 hour to rectify , if the birth time is not accurate. > > > > > > The above lady, is Mrs. Menaka Gandhi. > > > I picked her chart at random, after coming from office for > > verification method, and after having my tea, sat down to verify, and > > happy with the results. > > > > > > There is no need to wait for learning full KP. till then you can > > start. > > > There is no need to buy any software. Shri Narsimha Rao jindabad. > > > Use his J.Hora. > > > > > > And remember always, those who wish to learn more, must learn to > > share more, whatever they have and possess. > > > > > > best wishes, > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " pashu_sanju " > > <pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear bhasker ji, > > > > I read rectified time of pathiji. You should explain theories > > behind > > > > this for the benefit of group. > > > > Regards, > > > > sanjeev > > > > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " > > > > rajiventerprises@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Pathiji, > > > > > > > > > > Thnk You for the positive response. > > > > > I have rectified your birth time as > > > > > 1.26.33 > > > > > > > > > > This is just for your info, though I am not > > > > > going to put the rectification process here, > > > > > as its too lengthy to explain in your case. > > > > > > > > > > After rectifying the time I had put the query > > > > > to you, to confirm the correctness. > > > > > > > > > > regards, > > > > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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