Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results . i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts . Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji . So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts . so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit . Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote:>> Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho.> > "With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most> likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are> through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret> study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and> social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love> affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or> romantic frustration...."> > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al> > "With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working> and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature,> art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support> and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment -> in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some> stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to> fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums,> hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in> medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you> have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound> teachings.... "> > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam.> > Amma Saranam!> > Regards> Ramesh> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM> Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > Dear Su,> Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures.> The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic.> Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments.> The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka.> regards,> Bhaskar.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Namaste Sunil ji, As I understand that you go by theories and then apply it to several charts before accepting it..... If I am not mistaken, you yourself have mentioned a few times before in this forum (I do not have messge numbers with me) that Venus in 12th is a very bad placement for native's marriage and leads to extra marital/secret affairs (like affairs of movies which are away from public eye and these end badly). But now we learn that Venus in 12th is the best placement which is confusing. Also, a quick question - is effect of 7HL in 12th house the same and will it give happiness, richness and great bed pleasure during the dasha of the 7th HL (I understand that single placement/house/planet is not deciding factor but only one point in big scheme of things..... however brick by brick only we can build the wall of understanding in any chart and each point is important). Thanks & Regards, Ramesh --- On Sat, 7/19/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: 12th house matters Saturday, July 19, 2008, 2:01 PM Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results . i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts . Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji . So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts . so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit . Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968@. ..> wrote: > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho. > > " With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or > romantic frustration. ... " > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al > > " With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature, > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment - > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums, > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound > teachings... . " > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam. > > Amma Saranam! > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Su, > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures. > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic. > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments. > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka. > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji i think u dont read my reminder properly ,wat i write is that the question ( the main tread ) was based on venus in 12th house in Navamsa chart . other wise planets in 12th can deal with expenditure based on karakatwa , 12th is also house of expenditure ,so good planets can giv good spending habbits ,may giv good investments for better future etc ( even expenditure for moksha activities ) venus in 12th also can make a person to spend on perfumes and costly comfortable items Bhavarta ratnakara says planets in 12th can giv benefit frm karaka ,so venus may giv benefit from oppo sex . where as a karaka placed in 12th house means the results are hidden frm u . Now ur question abt 7th L in 12th house . a planet is dual in nature ,so if meena lagna and merc in 12th house here 4th L and 7th L in 12th house .so it will giv all the 3 results mainly ,4th L in 12th house ,7th L in 12th HOuse ,same time a karaka planet in 12th house ,merc in 12th house ,etc ,so many layers we need to put in .again results has to modify depends on aspects and strnghts and etc etc .also take sub periods and thier sambantha running . Now i wanted to remind u some thing ,when we discuss some thing ,pls discuss the matter,and stick to tread ( i actualy dont like this attitude too ,as simply question and learn ,let him say attitude where as we r all here to discuss and reserch and hence i was doing my duty to remind u abt those celibrity charts etc etc ) and dont bring in or pull in extra baggage items in discussion and that is not showing a leraner and dicusser in mature and healthy way . i dont know which posts u r assigning to my name ,if u can giv messge nos i will b most happiest person in earth . Next time when u r replying pls do ur home work and stick to discussion treads .Other wise atleast as a grp memebr i need to intervene it .U r always free 2 open a diffrnt tread and start discussion , so hope this time at least u will understand wat is the mission and why we r gathered here . rgeds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Nadi Research <nadiresearch wrote:>> Namaste Sunil ji,> > As I understand that you go by theories and then apply it to several charts before accepting it..... If I am not mistaken, you yourself have mentioned a few times before in this forum (I do not have messge numbers with me) that Venus in 12th is a very bad placement for native's marriage and leads to extra marital/secret affairs (like affairs of movies which are away from public eye and these end badly). But now we learn that Venus in 12th is the best placement which is confusing.> > Also, a quick question - is effect of 7HL in 12th house the same and will it give happiness, richness and great bed pleasure during the dasha of the 7th HL (I understand that single placement/house/planet is not deciding factor but only one point in big scheme of things..... however brick by brick only we can build the wall of understanding in any chart and each point is important).> > > Thanks & Regards,> Ramesh> > > --- On Sat, 7/19/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: 12th house matters> > Saturday, July 19, 2008, 2:01 PM> > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> dear ramesh ji> if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results .> i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts .> Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji .> > So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts .> so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit .> > Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar ram_t_1968@ ..> wrote:> >> > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho.> >> > "With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most> > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are> > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret> > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and> > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love> > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or> > romantic frustration. ..."> >> > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al> >> > "With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working> > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature,> > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support> > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment -> > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some> > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to> > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums,> > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in> > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you> > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound> > teachings... . "> >> >> > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam.> >> > Amma Saranam!> >> > Regards> > Ramesh> >> >> > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> >> >> > Dear Su,> > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures.> > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic.> > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments.> > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 This is my first post and i am interested in learning Jyotish. It is not easy for me to memorize all the sanskrit terns but i am trying my best. My Venus is on the 12th house (taurus), not in natal chart but in Navamsa. Please kindly if someone can explain if there is any difference in signification, and what exactly means the Navamsa chart. I would like to mention that in natal chart my venus is in aquarius in 9th house. Thank you. Regards, Liananda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear Linanda ji astrology is not so simple ,but here we can presume frm ur posting that Ur lagna is gemini and even Navamsa lagna is gemini and it mean vargottam lagna u hav . venus is in own amsa in 12th House frm lagna and navamsa lagna ,(own amsa is good ) where as 12th amsa need to see the results in broadr way ( i mean vyayamsa rasi tulya amsa ) . And also venus is 5th L and 12th L frm gemini lagna and 9th H . other wise it also shows venus in Jupiterian Nakshtra .rest depends on dasa and other charts details regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "blulisan" <blulisan wrote:>> > This is my first post and i am interested in learning Jyotish. It is> not easy for me to memorize all the sanskrit terns but i am trying my> best.> My Venus is on the 12th house (taurus), not in natal chart but in> Navamsa.> Please kindly if someone can explain if there is any difference in> signification, and what exactly means the Navamsa chart.> I would like to mention that in natal chart my venus is in aquarius in> 9th house.> Thank you.> > Regards,> > Liananda> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Dear Sunil Ji, You are right, my lagna is gemini in the natal and also in Navamsa. What means Vargottam lagna and what means vyayamsa rasi tulya amsa? please be so kind and give me some hints. I love to study but i need to know where from to start. Jupiter is in pisces 10th house in natal chart and in Virgo/4th house in Navamsa. I am not exactly a beginner in astrology, but i would like to learn more. Thank you. Best regards, Liananda , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > dear Linanda ji > > astrology is not so simple ,but here we can presume frm ur posting > that Ur lagna is gemini and even Navamsa lagna is gemini and it mean > vargottam lagna u hav . > > venus is in own amsa in 12th House frm lagna and navamsa lagna ,(own > amsa is good ) where as 12th amsa need to see the results in broadr way > ( i mean vyayamsa rasi tulya amsa ) . > > And also venus is 5th L and 12th L frm gemini lagna and 9th H . > > other wise it also shows venus in Jupiterian Nakshtra .rest depends on > dasa and other charts details > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > , " blulisan " > <blulisan@> wrote: > > > > > > This is my first post and i am interested in learning Jyotish. It is > > not easy for me to memorize all the sanskrit terns but i am trying my > > best. > > My Venus is on the 12th house (taurus), not in natal chart but in > > Navamsa. > > Please kindly if someone can explain if there is any difference in > > signification, and what exactly means the Navamsa chart. > > I would like to mention that in natal chart my venus is in aquarius in > > 9th house. > > Thank you. > > > > Regards, > > > > Liananda > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji May b other one also original and i remebr him too . sorry for wat happened . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote:>> I accept your views. There is no limit to learning.> > On a lighter note, as someone has posted as Ramesh of Nadiresearch.> > The 12th Kaandam is one item, these Nadi guys, use to make a killing in earnings! The nadi astrologer in Bannerghatta Road was driving a scooter till few months ago, and now he is Swifting on a 4-wheeler. Works from 9 to 9 and his speciality is 12th Kaandam, for anyone, from any country.> > Amma Saranam!> > Regards> Ramesh> > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Saturday, 19 July, 2008 7:31:41 PM> Re: 12th house matters> > > > Hare rama krishna > dear ramesh ji > if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results .> i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts .> Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji .> > So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts .> so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit .> > Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar ram_t_1968@ ..> wrote:> >> > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho.> > > > "With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most> > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are> > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret> > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and> > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love> > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or> > romantic frustration. ..."> > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al> > > > "With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working> > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature,> > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support> > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment -> > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some> > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to> > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums,> > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in> > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you> > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound> > teachings... . "> > > > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam.> > > > Amma Saranam!> > > > Regards> > Ramesh> > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ...> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time.> > > > > > Dear Su,> > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures.> > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic.> > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments.> > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka.> > regards,> > Bhaskar.> >> > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 dear shri sunilji, I have a female chart with kumbha lagna, mars in lagna, 7th lord sun in 12th house along with venus. moon is in aries and it s 7th lord venus is in 12th from ascendant. in navamsa venus is debilitated. lagna lord saturn in exalted in thulam in natal chart. A close family friend has requested to match this chart with that of his son who has to be married. though i find the chart is compatible with that of the boy's chart. Yet i feel that 7th lord in 12th is badly afflicted and venus being 7th from moon is debilitated in navamsa. do u feel that this planetary placements can lead to divorce at a later stage. the girl is running chandra mahadasa. dob is 23rd jan 1983, time 9.15am and place is chennai. I would request u to give ur opinion on this 12th lord placement. thanks, regards k.gopu --- On Mon, 7/21/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: 12th house matters Monday, July 21, 2008, 12:24 AM Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji May b other one also original and i remebr him too . sorry for wat happened . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968@. ..> wrote: > > I accept your views. There is no limit to learning. > > On a lighter note, as someone has posted as Ramesh of Nadiresearch. > > The 12th Kaandam is one item, these Nadi guys, use to make a killing in earnings! The nadi astrologer in Bannerghatta Road was driving a scooter till few months ago, and now he is Swifting on a 4-wheeler. Works from 9 to 9 and his speciality is 12th Kaandam, for anyone, from any country. > > Amma Saranam! > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology@ ... > Saturday, 19 July, 2008 7:31:41 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: 12th house matters > > > > Hare rama krishna > dear ramesh ji > if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results . > i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts . > Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji . > > So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts . > so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit . > > Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar ram_t_1968@ ..> wrote: > > > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho. > > > > " With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most > > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are > > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret > > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and > > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love > > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or > > romantic frustration. ... " > > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al > > > > " With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working > > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature, > > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support > > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment - > > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some > > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to > > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums, > > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in > > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you > > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound > > teachings... . " > > > > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam. > > > > Amma Saranam! > > > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > Dear Su, > > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures. > > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic. > > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments. > > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Dear Gopu ji, Sun in Bhava Vargottama, may only help in marriage. Mars ,Rahu and Saturn are trine to each other and on the same degree in respective Houses and are in NAKSHTRA of Rahu. Mars is the Lagna Lord in D-9 chart , and conjoined with Saturn and Rahu in 10H. Venus is AK and debilitated, AND PLACED IN 6H in D-9, it is under the aspect of Rahu and Sun..This is bad for marriage. Mars Dasa has started from 4-7-2008 Mars is the dispositer of Upapada and thus is enable to bring Husband. The silver lining is that Jupiter is aspecting Upapada by sign aspect. She should keep fasts on Tuesdays and strengthen Jupiter by Mantra Japa. Regards, G.K.GOEL K Gopu <kgopu_24 Monday, 21 July, 2008 7:15:37 AM Re: 12th house matters dear shri sunilji, I have a female chart with kumbha lagna, mars in lagna, 7th lord sun in 12th house along with venus. moon is in aries and it s 7th lord venus is in 12th from ascendant. in navamsa venus is debilitated. lagna lord saturn in exalted in thulam in natal chart. A close family friend has requested to match this chart with that of his son who has to be married. though i find the chart is compatible with that of the boy's chart. Yet i feel that 7th lord in 12th is badly afflicted and venus being 7th from moon is debilitated in navamsa. do u feel that this planetary placements can lead to divorce at a later stage. the girl is running chandra mahadasa. dob is 23rd jan 1983, time 9.15am and place is chennai. I would request u to give ur opinion on this 12th lord placement.  thanks,  regards k.gopu --- On Mon, 7/21/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala@ .co. in> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: 12th house matters ancient_indian_ astrology Monday, July 21, 2008, 12:24 AM  Hare rama krishna dear ramesh ji  May b other one also original and i remebr him too . sorry for wat happened .  regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah.  ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968@ . ..> wrote: > > I accept your views. There is no limit to learning. > > On a lighter note, as someone has posted as Ramesh of Nadiresearch. > > The 12th Kaandam is one item, these Nadi guys, use to make a killing in earnings! The nadi astrologer in Bannerghatta Road was driving a scooter till few months ago, and now he is Swifting on a 4-wheeler. Works from 9 to 9 and his speciality is 12th Kaandam, for anyone, from any country. > > Amma Saranam! > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ ... > ancient_indian_ astrology@ ... > Saturday, 19 July, 2008 7:31:41 PM > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: 12th house matters > > > > Hare rama krishna > dear ramesh ji > if u re read the tread the question was raised by our one of the prominent memebr on placement of venus in Navamsa charts and its results . > i also know that the SJC grp promotes such 1000s of theoreys ,and never find working in actual charts .. > Now i hav a small request to u .let us leav all this celibrities unless we r getting a confirmed birth time ( like it happened in case of roger federer ,our another grp memebr got this infomation directly frm his mother ( sri pradeep ( vijayadas pradeep ) and he passed on to sri KN rao ji too and rogerer federer s sliding profession become one of the succesful predictions of sri Rao ji . > > So let us test any vedic astrology or even any stream of astrology with known and confirmed charts . > so what u think ??Hope u will take this in right spirit . > > Dear memebr i am talking frm my exprnce ,u can take it or reject it > > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > ancient_indian_ astrology, ramesh tendulkar ram_t_1968@ ..> wrote: > > > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho. > > > > " With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most > > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are > > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret > > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and > > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love > > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or > > romantic frustration. ... " > > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al > > > > " With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working > > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature, > > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support > > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment - > > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some > > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to > > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums, > > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in > > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you > > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound > > teachings... . " > > > > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam. > > > > Amma Saranam! > > > > Regards > > Ramesh > > > > > > > > Bhaskar rajiventerprises@ ... > > ancient_indian_ astrology > > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM > > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > > > > Dear Su, > > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures. > > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic. > > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments. > > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka. > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > > > > > > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos. / groups/ > Explore your hobbies and interests. Go to http://in.promos./groups/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear gopu ji I am trying to answer u since ur a senior memebr and well wisher of the grp . Now i will point u improtant thing which we shud see in chart . U hav to see ( also u anlaysed ) the lagna /2nd /4th/7th/8th Houses and its qualities frm 3 points ( lagna /moon/venus ) in chart for marriage ( for more reference pls see file section in marriage matchting and sure i will come out more on it in future ) . I am giving imp points .so here mars in lagna ( showing a manglic effect ) ,Now see same mars in 2nd to karaka venus .Now u can see karaka venus and 7th lord sun in 12th house and also they r in a papakarthari yoga and showing obstacle in devlpement . Mars is dasa Lord who has given its amsa in 12th house ,so known as vyayamsa .But he is navamsa Lagna Lord too hence capable of giving marriage . but yes ,this connection of karaka along with sun the 7th Lord in 12th house and mars connection with 12th ( also not a good planet for kumbha lagna natives ) .Also given amsa to 12th frm own position . so care shud b taken while matchting regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> dear shri sunilji,> I have a female chart with kumbha lagna, mars in lagna, 7th lord sun in 12th house along with venus. moon is in aries and it s 7th lord venus is in 12th from ascendant. in navamsa venus is debilitated. lagna lord saturn in exalted in thulam in natal chart. A close family friend has requested to match this chart with that of his son who has to be married.> though i find the chart is compatible with that of the boy's chart. Yet i feel that 7th lord in 12th is badly afflicted and venus being 7th from moon is debilitated in navamsa. do u feel that this planetary placements can lead to divorce at a later stage. the girl is running chandra mahadasa. dob is 23rd jan 1983, time 9.15am and place is chennai.> I would request u to give ur opinion on this 12th lord placement.> > thanks,> regards> k.gopu> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Dear Sirs I have venus in the 12th in saggitarius, also in the same place in Navamsa. I find the statements of Mr. Ramesh Tendulkar true in my case too, though I am no where popular, rich, and comfortable like the persons he has mentioned. I am indeed shy, especially in a crowd, and am contemplative, meditative, spiritual, like loneliness or being alone many a time.... secret love....partly and maybe awaiting still... has rune into marital problems in the last 10 years....(maybe due to other planetary positions). Just started my mars dasa, in vrischika. 11th house...want to live alone, go away, going thru familial mental turmoil... If anyone wants more details of my horoscope, ready to send it in the personal mail. My age - 67. Truly want some one to study my chart and give me solace. Regards Ram , ramesh tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote: > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho. > > " With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are most > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness or > romantic frustration.... " > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et al > > " With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of working > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature, > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, support > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual fulfilment - > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At some > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums, > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an interest in > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - you > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound > teachings.... " > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam. > > Amma Saranam! > > Regards > Ramesh > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > > Friday, 18 July, 2008 2:35:38 PM > Re:Rectification of birth time. > > > Dear Su, > Venus in 12th is considered to be one of the best placements for Venus as per the Traditional rules for bed pleasures. > The exception can only be if the Venus is associated to a malefic , or aspected by a malefic. > Otherwise Venus would give richness, happiness and sexual enjoyments. > The above results are mentioned in the Phaldeepika, Chamatkar Chintamani and Brihat Jataka. > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sir pls ,i would like to inform u that we dont do any free reading service here . i advice to u meet a high qualified professional astrologer in area and sit face to face with him take predictions . Now some one may conct u with remedies and all that ,in prvt ,but dont complaint to us in later stages .Its purely ur choice to accept it or not . we r interested only in feed backs and discussion s ( so this mail is valid only to the discussion part ) as this is a reserch grp . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "unpadam" <ramakrishnansv wrote:>> Dear Sirs> > I have venus in the 12th in saggitarius, also in the same place in > Navamsa. I find the statements of Mr. Ramesh Tendulkar true in my > case too, though I am no where popular, rich, and comfortable like > the persons he has mentioned. I am indeed shy, especially in a > crowd, and am contemplative, meditative, spiritual, like loneliness > or being alone many a time.... secret love....partly and maybe > awaiting still... has rune into marital problems in the last 10 > years....(maybe due to other planetary positions). Just started my > mars dasa, in vrischika. 11th house...want to live alone, go away, > going thru familial mental turmoil... If anyone wants more details > of my horoscope, ready to send it in the personal mail. My age - > 67. Truly want some one to study my chart and give me solace.> Regards> Ram> > > > > > > , ramesh tendulkar > ram_t_1968@ wrote:> >> > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi > Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho.> > > > "With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are > most> > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are> > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret> > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and> > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love> > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness > or> > romantic frustration...."> > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et > al> > > > "With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of > working> > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature,> > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, > support> > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual > fulfilment -> > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At > some> > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to> > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums,> > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an > interest in> > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - > you> > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound> > teachings.... "> > > > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam.> > > > Amma Saranam!> > > > Regards> > Ramesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 No sir, I am not expecting any free service. I found the discussion interesting and just responded. No motive or interest. I understand. Ram , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear sir > > pls ,i would like to inform u that we dont do any free reading service > here . > > i advice to u meet a high qualified professional astrologer in area and > sit face to face with him take predictions . > > Now some one may conct u with remedies and all that ,in prvt ,but dont > complaint to us in later stages .Its purely ur choice to accept it or > not . > > we r interested only in feed backs and discussion s ( so this mail is > valid only to the discussion part ) > > as this is a reserch grp . > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah . > > > , " unpadam " > <ramakrishnansv@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sirs > > > > I have venus in the 12th in saggitarius, also in the same place in > > Navamsa. I find the statements of Mr. Ramesh Tendulkar true in my > > case too, though I am no where popular, rich, and comfortable like > > the persons he has mentioned. I am indeed shy, especially in a > > crowd, and am contemplative, meditative, spiritual, like loneliness > > or being alone many a time.... secret love....partly and maybe > > awaiting still... has rune into marital problems in the last 10 > > years....(maybe due to other planetary positions). Just started my > > mars dasa, in vrischika. 11th house...want to live alone, go away, > > going thru familial mental turmoil... If anyone wants more details > > of my horoscope, ready to send it in the personal mail. My age - > > 67. Truly want some one to study my chart and give me solace. > > Regards > > Ram > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ramesh tendulkar > > ram_t_1968@ wrote: > > > > > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi > > Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho. > > > > > > " With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you are > > most > > > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities are > > > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or secret > > > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. Personal and > > > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret love > > > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some loneliness > > or > > > romantic frustration.... " > > > > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet et > > al > > > > > > " With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of > > working > > > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, literature, > > > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration, > > support > > > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual > > fulfilment - > > > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. At > > some > > > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order to > > > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through asylums, > > > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an > > interest in > > > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult studies - > > you > > > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound > > > teachings.... " > > > > > > > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam. > > > > > > Amma Saranam! > > > > > > Regards > > > Ramesh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 21, 2008 Report Share Posted July 21, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sir , Actualy this free reading is realy kills astrology and never protects the queriests too . because once they got free service they r tempted to try on other ,then other and they end up with 100 readings and they will get good ,bad ,ugly astrologers and their reading too ,Finaly wat is the result ??is it will help queriests ???? or even astrologers who dont cheat clients by terrorising ?? So finaly quality astrology also going down as no body serious will took up as a profession too . so we r doing big harm to a sastra ,a culture and then ourself . we r interested to know abt what happened in ur venus Maha dasa .Also thanks for understanding my suggestions . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "unpadam" <ramakrishnansv wrote:>> No sir, I am not expecting any free service. I found the discussion > interesting and just responded. No motive or interest. I understand.> > Ram> > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear sir> > > > pls ,i would like to inform u that we dont do any free reading > service> > here .> > > > i advice to u meet a high qualified professional astrologer in > area and> > sit face to face with him take predictions .> > > > Now some one may conct u with remedies and all that ,in prvt ,but > dont > > complaint to us in later stages .Its purely ur choice to accept it > or> > not .> > > > we r interested only in feed backs and discussion s ( so this mail > is> > valid only to the discussion part )> > > > as this is a reserch grp .> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > , "unpadam"> > <ramakrishnansv@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sirs> > >> > > I have venus in the 12th in saggitarius, also in the same place > in> > > Navamsa. I find the statements of Mr. Ramesh Tendulkar true in my> > > case too, though I am no where popular, rich, and comfortable > like> > > the persons he has mentioned. I am indeed shy, especially in a> > > crowd, and am contemplative, meditative, spiritual, like > loneliness> > > or being alone many a time.... secret love....partly and maybe> > > awaiting still... has rune into marital problems in the last 10> > > years....(maybe due to other planetary positions). Just started > my> > > mars dasa, in vrischika. 11th house...want to live alone, go > away,> > > going thru familial mental turmoil... If anyone wants more > details> > > of my horoscope, ready to send it in the personal mail. My age -> > > 67. Truly want some one to study my chart and give me solace.> > > Regards> > > Ram> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , ramesh tendulkar> > > ram_t_1968@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Here is a nice article on Venus in 12th. Examples include Jaggi> > > Vasudev, Sri Sri Ravishankar and Osho.> > > >> > > > "With Venus in the Twelfth House the areas of life where you > are> > > most> > > > likely to express your social, romantic and artistic qualities > are> > > > through a love of quiet and seclusion to peruse personal or > secret> > > > study and meditation - probably of a spiritual nature. > Personal and> > > > social contacts often are secretive, and there can be secret > love> > > > affairs. Social inhibitions or shyness can lead to some > loneliness> > > or> > > > romantic frustration...."> > > >> > > > Also a note on Jupiter in 12th, like Bill Gates, Warren Buffet > et> > > al> > > >> > > > "With Jupiter in the Twelfth House you will find luck, ease of> > > working> > > > and general good fortune coming through spiritual work, > literature,> > > > art, poetry, religion or stage and screen work. Inspiration,> > > support> > > > and guidance may come from an inner search for spiritual> > > fulfilment -> > > > in the form of meditation, seclusion and introspective study. > At> > > some> > > > stage of life you may make a great personal sacrifice in order > to> > > > fulfill your ideal of worthwhile service, perhaps through > asylums,> > > > hospitals or public institutions. There is likely to be an> > > interest in> > > > medicine, chemistry, healing and metaphysical or occult > studies -> > > you> > > > have a healthy respect for ancient wisdom and the more profound> > > > teachings.... "> > > >> > > >> > > > Nadi guys make a killing, with the 12th Kaandam.> > > >> > > > Amma Saranam!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Ramesh> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 dear shri sunilji, thanks for sparing ur valuable time. I thank u once again for highlighting the effect of mars in the horoscope. regards, k.gopu--- On Mon, 7/21/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: 12th house matters Date: Monday, July 21, 2008, 7:22 PM Hare ramakrishna dear gopu ji I am trying to answer u since ur a senior memebr and well wisher of the grp . Now i will point u improtant thing which we shud see in chart . U hav to see ( also u anlaysed ) the lagna /2nd /4th/7th/8th Houses and its qualities frm 3 points ( lagna /moon/venus ) in chart for marriage ( for more reference pls see file section in marriage matchting and sure i will come out more on it in future ) . I am giving imp points .so here mars in lagna ( showing a manglic effect ) ,Now see same mars in 2nd to karaka venus .Now u can see karaka venus and 7th lord sun in 12th house and also they r in a papakarthari yoga and showing obstacle in devlpement . Mars is dasa Lord who has given its amsa in 12th house ,so known as vyayamsa .But he is navamsa Lagna Lord too hence capable of giving marriage . but yes ,this connection of karaka along with sun the 7th Lord in 12th house and mars connection with 12th ( also not a good planet for kumbha lagna natives ) .Also given amsa to 12th frm own position . so care shud b taken while matchting regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> dear shri sunilji,> I have a female chart with kumbha lagna, mars in lagna, 7th lord sun in 12th house along with venus. moon is in aries and it s 7th lord venus is in 12th from ascendant. in navamsa venus is debilitated. lagna lord saturn in exalted in thulam in natal chart. A close family friend has requested to match this chart with that of his son who has to be married.> though i find the chart is compatible with that of the boy's chart. Yet i feel that 7th lord in 12th is badly afflicted and venus being 7th from moon is debilitated in navamsa. do u feel that this planetary placements can lead to divorce at a later stage. the girl is running chandra mahadasa. dob is 23rd jan 1983, time 9.15am and place is chennai.> I would request u to give ur opinion on this 12th lord placement.> > thanks,> regards> k.gopu> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 22, 2008 Report Share Posted July 22, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Gopu ji welcome ,Thanks regrds sunil nair Om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:>> dear shri sunilji,> thanks for sparing ur valuable time. I thank u once again> for highlighting the effect of mars in the horoscope.> > regards,> k.gopu> > > > --- On Mon, 7/21/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: 12th house matters> > Monday, July 21, 2008, 7:22 PM> > Hare ramakrishna > dear gopu ji > I am trying to answer u since ur a senior memebr and well wisher of the grp .> > Now i will point u improtant thing which we shud see in chart .> > U hav to see ( also u anlaysed ) the lagna /2nd /4th/7th/8th Houses and its qualities frm 3 points ( lagna /moon/venus ) in chart for marriage ( for more reference pls see file section in marriage matchting and sure i will come out more on it in future ) .> > I am giving imp points .so here mars in lagna ( showing a manglic effect ) ,Now see same mars in 2nd to karaka venus .Now u can see karaka venus and 7th lord sun in 12th house and also they r in a papakarthari yoga and showing obstacle in devlpement .> > Mars is dasa Lord who has given its amsa in 12th house ,so known as vyayamsa .But he is navamsa Lagna Lord too hence capable of giving marriage .> > but yes ,this connection of karaka along with sun the 7th Lord in 12th house and mars connection with 12th ( also not a good planet for kumbha lagna natives ) .Also given amsa to 12th frm own position .> > so care shud b taken while matchting > regrds sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> >> > dear shri sunilji,> > I have a female chart with kumbha lagna, mars in lagna, 7th lord sun in 12th house along with venus. moon is in aries and it s 7th lord venus is in 12th from ascendant. in navamsa venus is debilitated. lagna lord saturn in exalted in thulam in natal chart. A close family friend has requested to match this chart with that of his son who has to be married.> > though i find the chart is compatible with that of the boy's chart. Yet i feel that 7th lord in 12th is badly afflicted and venus being 7th from moon is debilitated in navamsa. do u feel that this planetary placements can lead to divorce at a later stage. the girl is running chandra mahadasa. dob is 23rd jan 1983, time 9.15am and place is chennai.> > I would request u to give ur opinion on this 12th lord placement.> > > > thanks,> > regards> > k.gopu> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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