Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Friends , Whenever Saturn/Mars together in any house act as Yamaraja (EXCEPT IN 9H). Such natives face death like conditions in their lives at some or other time. One of my friend of Taurus Lagna , was having this combination in Libra in 6H. HE WAS MURDERED WITH HIS SPOUSE BY TH IVES AT HIS AGE OF ABOUT 72 YRS. Recently , the native of Libra Lagna , was having this combination in 8H. He was very seriously ill and Doctors could save him with great difficulty. On the other hand , this combination in 9H acts like DHARMRAJA, WHO IS CONTROLLER OF EVENTS In the chart of oath taking of Dr. Manmohan Singh , this combination is occurring in 9H , None other than he will decide the timing of calling elections, and when his present inning should come to close. Regards, G.K.GOELP renunw <renunw Sent: Friday, 21 December, 2007 4:29:34 AM Re: To renuji:Malefics Dear Jyothi ji,"My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the mostcompassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life."That is nice to know... My son too has Mars and Saturn in 8H.blessingsRenuancient_indian_ astrology, "jyothi_b_lakshmi" <jyothi_b_lakshmi@ ...> wrote:>> Dear renuji,> > My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the most > compassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life.> > Regards,> Jyothi > > In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > <sreesog@> wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Hari ji,> > >> > > The malefics in malefic houses make the native brut,> > courageous, and> > > gives the attitude to win the fights by destroying the enemies> > without> > > mercy, using all the possible - worldly ways - right or wrong. For> > them> > > the motto is "any tactic is ok, to attain the goal"! Of course> > either> > > raja yoga or direct opposite sudden destruction and death of the> > native> > > itself could become the result. [>] One shouldn't expect> > rajayoga> > > always - check the chart of criminals and murders - you will find> > > something cute! [:-?] Ya, the association between malefics and> > malefic> > > houses!> > >> > > Love,> > > Sreenadh> > >> >> Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 12, 2008 Report Share Posted July 12, 2008 Dear Goelji, What would be the results in any house for the capricorn ascendant, for this combination of Mars and Saturn ? Would it still act malefic here ? Or would it not give the native beneficial results in the matters of Gains and finances? And in matters of construction and properties ? What would be your take on the above. regards, Bhaskar. , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Friends , > Whenever Saturn/Mars together in any house act as Yamaraja (EXCEPT IN 9H). > Such natives face death like conditions in their lives at some or other time. One of my friend of Taurus Lagna , > was having this combination in Libra in 6H. HE WAS MURDERED WITH HIS SPOUSE BY THEIVES AT HIS AGE OF ABOUT 72 YRS. > Recently , the native of Libra Lagna , was having this combination in 8H.He was very seriously ill and Doctors could save him with great difficulty. > > On the other hand , this combination in 9H acts like DHARMRAJA, WHO IS CONTROLLER OF EVENTS > In the chart of oath taking of Dr. Manmohan Singh , this combination is occurring in 9H , None other than he will decide the timing of calling elections, > and when his present inning should come to close. > Regards, > G.K.GOEL > > > > > > renunw <renunw > > Friday, 21 December, 2007 4:29:34 AM > Re: To renuji:Malefics > > > Dear Jyothi ji, > > " My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the most > compassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life. " > > That is nice to know... My son too has Mars and Saturn in 8H. > > blessings > > Renu > > ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com, " jyothi_b_lakshmi " > <jyothi_b_lakshmi@ ...> wrote: > > > > Dear renuji, > > > > My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the most > > compassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life. > > > > Regards, > > Jyothi > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, " renunw " > > <renunw@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > > > Sorry ...let me be more clear. I cannot agree to motto... " any > > > tactic is ok, to attain the goal " ! .....relevant to those who > have > > > malefics in malefic houses > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > Renu > > > In ancient_indian_ astrology, " Sreenadh " > > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Hari ji, > > > > > > > > The malefics in malefic houses make the native brut, > > > courageous, and > > > > gives the attitude to win the fights by destroying the enemies > > > without > > > > mercy, using all the possible - worldly ways - right or wrong. > For > > > them > > > > the motto is " any tactic is ok, to attain the goal " ! Of course > > > either > > > > raja yoga or direct opposite sudden destruction and death of > the > > > native > > > > itself could become the result. [>] One shouldn't expect > > > rajayoga > > > > always - check the chart of criminals and murders - you will > find > > > > something cute! [:-?] Ya, the association between malefics > and > > > malefic > > > > houses! > > > > > > > > Love, > > > > Sreenadh > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 19, 2008 Report Share Posted July 19, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear Goel ji U are going every thing by theory but not by exprnce . can u explain how and why we shud take this badak in chart reading ,in that case any problem of badak will b permanent in chart and it cant b cured too . can u explain why sani has given the place of ucha rasi for mars who is 4th Lord ( even moola trikona is mesha ) and 11th Lord .if its badaka .why not the kumbha rasi for venus according to ur badak theory . Also can u explain why sani meet it fall ( debilation in 4th house owned by mars ) why this contraditctions . now let us see some chart who has this yoga and see frm exprce than long articles or theorys .i hope memebrs may post some charts who has already this yuti in chart and has passed respectiv dasa ( pls dont post for getting a reading ) I think sri Harivamsa rai bachan ji has this yoga in 5th house ( now i lost his chart -if nay memebrs can post it ,it will b highly appreciable ) sorry for being blunt regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Mr. Bhaskar,> The yuti of Sat and Mars is no doubt will result in financial prosperity and may give property also.>  I will like to draw the attention on following factors:> 1. This yuti will afflict the house where they are placed> 2. For Capricorn Lagna Mars is natural Marka as well as Bhadhaka.> 3. If placed in Upachya places , will make the native bold and with full of fighting spirit , but his decisions may not be always beneficial> 4.The houses , from where this yuti will be in Upacya places , these houses will result in material prosperity ,provided these planets are> having more bindus in astak varga  and good in vimshopka and shadbala, but will be bad for health.> 5 Say if placed in 4H , IT WILL GIVE LOT OF EARNING BUT BAD HEALTH.> 6. Say in 8H, it will benefit 3H,6H,10H and 11H.> Regards,> > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > > Bhaskar bhaskar_jyotish > Saturday, 12 July, 2008 6:32:20 PM> Re:Saturn and Mars Conjunction> > > Dear Goelji,> > What would be the results in any house for the> capricorn ascendant, for this combination of Mars> and Saturn ? Would it still act malefic here ?> Or would it not give the native beneficial> results in the matters of Gains and finances?> And in matters of construction and properties ?> > What would be your take on the above.> > regards,> Bhaskar.> > ancient_indian_ astrology, Gopal Goel> <gkgoel1937@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Friends ,> > Whenever Saturn/Mars together in any house act as Yamaraja (EXCEPT> IN 9H).> > Such natives face death like conditions in their lives at some or> other time. One of my friend of Taurus Lagna ,> > was having this combination in Libra in 6H. HE WAS MURDERED WITH> HIS SPOUSE BY THEIVES AT HIS AGE OF ABOUT 72 YRS.> > Recently , the native of Libra Lagna , was having this combination> in 8H.He was very seriously ill and Doctors could save him with> great difficulty.> >  > > On the other hand , this combination in 9H acts like DHARMRAJA, WHO> IS CONTROLLER OF EVENTS> > In the chart of oath taking of Dr. Manmohan Singh , this> combination is occurring in 9H , None other than he will decide the> timing of calling elections,> > and when his present inning should come to close.> > Regards,> > G.K.GOEL> > >> >> >> > > > renunw renunw@> > ancient_indian_ astrology> > Friday, 21 December, 2007 4:29:34 AM> > [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: To renuji:Malefics> >> >> > Dear Jyothi ji,> >> > "My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the most> > compassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life."> >> > That is nice to know... My son too has Mars and Saturn in 8H.> >> > blessings> >> > Renu> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> com, "jyothi_b_lakshmi"> > <jyothi_b_lakshmi@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear renuji,> > >> > > My mother has Mars and saturn in 8th. My mother is one of the most> > > compassionate, sensitive woman I have ever seen in my life.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Jyothi> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "renunw"> > > <renunw@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > >> > > > Sorry ...let me be more clear. I cannot agree to motto... "any> > > > tactic is ok, to attain the goal"! .....relevant to those who> > have> > > > malefics in malefic houses > > > >> > > > blessings> > > >> > > > Renu> > > > In ancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh"> > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Hari ji,> > > > >> > > > > The malefics in malefic houses make the native brut,> > > > courageous, and> > > > > gives the attitude to win the fights by destroying the enemies> > > > without> > > > > mercy, using all the possible - worldly ways - right or wrong.> > For> > > > them> > > > > the motto is "any tactic is ok, to attain the goal"! Of course> > > > either> > > > > raja yoga or direct opposite sudden destruction and death of> > the> > > > native> > > > > itself could become the result. [>] One shouldn't expect> > > > rajayoga> > > > > always - check the chart of criminals and murders - you will> > find> > > > > something cute! [:-?] Ya, the association between malefics> > and> > > > malefic> > > > > houses!> > > > >> > > > > Love,> > > > > Sreenadh> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 In the following chart Sat. and Mars are in 10 H. This is a horoscope of my friend very well known to me. Simha Lagna. Sukra, Mercury, and Kethu in 6th H i.e.Makara .Kumba Rasi -Sun and Moon are in Kumbha. In 10th House-Rishabha Saturn and Mars with Mandhi. Jupiter and Rahu in 12th-Kataka.. His DOB is 23. 2. 1l944. He was in Government of India Service for 45 years and retired. But as you have said I ascertained that he has not experienced any Major problem in the Saturn-Mars. He has only 2Years and 1 month balance of Mars Dasa at the time of birth. He is very much involved in public-Socio-Religious activities.But in his Budha Dasa that is in March2008 he met with an accident-fracture in his left feet. I could not find any reason for it, Though it is in the Rahu Apaharam he had no problems in Sat-Rahu or in Rahu-Sat. Hari.Venkataraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Mr. Venkataraman Hari ji, Could give us the missing details of his birthdata - Time & Place so as to see the navamsa positions also. Without navamsa it is difficult to predict reasons of an event..... For something to happen on feet - there should be connection of Pisces sign or saturn or ......etc. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari wrote: > In the following chart Sat. and Mars are in 10 H. This is a horoscope of my friend > very well known to me. Simha Lagna. Sukra, Mercury, and Kethu in 6th H i.e.Makara  .Kumba Rasi -Sun and Moon are in Kumbha. In 10th House-Rishabha Saturn and Mars with Mandhi. Jupiter and Rahu in 12th-Kataka.. His DOB is 23. 2. 1l944.  He was in Government of India Service for 45 years and retired. But as you have said I ascertained that he has not experienced any Major problem in the Saturn-Mars. He has only 2Years and 1 month balance of Mars Dasa at the time of birth. He is very much involved in public-Socio-Religious activities.But in his Budha Dasa that is in March2008 he met with an accident-fracture in his left feet. I could not find any reason for it, Though it is in the Rahu Apaharam he had no problems in Sat-Rahu or in Rahu-Sat. Hari.Venkataraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Namaste Mr. Goel ji, Astro comments or statements should have their practical application on the charts, it would the subject interesting and convince others on its validity, member asking for it....should not be taken in any negative intent. You can refer to the real chart incident posted by Mr. Venkataraman....where the event has failed to happen.... Is it possible to discuss on this chart....? With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: > > Dear Nair, > It has become your habit to respond in blunt manner. > Alas , God has not  given virtue to be polite. > The most easy thing in the world to assume that oneself is very intelligent. >  > Best wishes to you and regards, > >  G.K.GOEL > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Venkataraman ji, Kindly give the complete Birth details of your friend. Buddh is the mahadasa lord. He would have little say in the event. It is the antar and pratyantar lords and their varga positions which is more important. RegardsNeelam2008/7/20 Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_hari: In the following chart Sat. and Mars are in 10 H. This is a horoscope of my friend very well known to me. Simha Lagna. Sukra, Mercury, and Kethu in 6th H i.e.Makara .Kumba Rasi -Sun and Moon are in Kumbha. In 10th House-Rishabha Saturn and Mars with Mandhi. Jupiter and Rahu in 12th-Kataka.. His DOB is 23. 2. 1l944. He was in Government of India Service for 45 years and retired. But as you have said I ascertained that he has not experienced any Major problem in the Saturn-Mars. He has only 2Years and 1 month balance of Mars Dasa at the time of birth. He is very much involved in public-Socio-Religious activities.But in his Budha Dasa that is in March2008 he met with an accident-fracture in his left feet. I could not find any reason for it, Though it is in the Rahu Apaharam he had no problems in Sat-Rahu or in Rahu-Sat. Hari.Venkataraman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Namaste Neelam Sorry don't quite agree with your statement that " mahadasa lord " has very little say in the event - the " antra & pratyantar " periods confirm what is promised in its period Not otherwise .... If Only " antra & pratyantar " periods were the be all and end all then All life's events would follow same pattern which patently is never the case ... Best wishes ... Jai Sita Ram Ram _____ On Behalf Of neelam gupta 20 July 2008 12:35 Re: Re:Saturn and Mars Conjunction Dear Venkataraman ji, Kindly give the complete Birth details of your friend. Buddh is the mahadasa lord. He would have little say in the event. It is the antar and pratyantar lords and their varga positions which is more important. Regards Neelam 2008/7/20 Venkataraman Hari <venkataraman_ <venkataraman_hari hari: In the following chart Sat. and Mars are in 10 H. This is a horoscope of my friend very well known to me. Simha Lagna. Sukra, Mercury, and Kethu in 6th H i.e.Makara .Kumba Rasi -Sun and Moon are in Kumbha. In 10th House-Rishabha Saturn and Mars with Mandhi. Jupiter and Rahu in 12th-Kataka.. His DOB is 23. 2. 1l944. He was in Government of India Service for 45 years and retired. But as you have said I ascertained that he has not experienced any Major problem in the Saturn-Mars. He has only 2Years and 1 month balance of Mars Dasa at the time of birth. He is very much involved in public-Socio-Religious activities.But in his Budha Dasa that is in March2008 he met with an accident-fracture in his left feet. I could not find any reason for it, Though it is in the Rahu Apaharam he had no problems in Sat-Rahu or in Rahu-Sat. Hari.Venkataraman Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.138 / Virus Database: 270.5.2/1562 - Release 7/19/2008 2:01 PM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Ram ji,MD lords define the patterns of destiny and our courses in life. MD lord is a trend setter for life to come in its period. E.g, a period of 10L can assure that karma is coming to the forefront of life and 10H-related factors will be surface more. But at the same time, the antar and pratyantar lords are the dealing hands for day-to-day affairs. A relation between MD-AD-PD and their position/lordship does signify the strength of the event and its auspicious or inauspicious nature, but antar and pratyantar lords between them decide the timing of an event. You may check laghu parashari for this. It has clearly been stated that a planet gives its results in its antar/pratyantar or its sambandhi's or sahdharmi's antar/pratyantar and not its mahadhasha. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2008 Report Share Posted July 20, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, "MD lords define the patterns of destiny and our courses in life. MD lord is a trend setter for life to come in its period. E.g, a period of 10L can assure that karma is coming to the forefront of life and 10H-related factors will be surface more. But at the same time, the antar and pratyantar lords are the dealing hands for day-to-day affairs." Beautifully explained.....short & sweet! blessings Renu , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Ram ji,> > MD lords define the patterns of destiny and our courses in life. MD lord is> a trend setter for life to come in its period. E.g, a period of 10L can> assure that karma is coming to the forefront of life and 10H-related factors> will be surface more. But at the same time, the antar and pratyantar lords> are the dealing hands for day-to-day affairs. A relation between MD-AD-PD> and their position/lordship does signify the strength of the event and its> auspicious or inauspicious nature, but antar and pratyantar lords between> them decide the timing of an event. You may check laghu parashari for this.> It has clearly been stated that a planet gives its results in its> antar/pratyantar or its sambandhi's or sahdharmi's antar/pratyantar and not> its mahadhasha.> > Regards> Neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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