Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear all, A very good post. I wish to iniate a dialouge between the astrologers. The framework could begin with the Topic - Lagna Lord in various Houses ( taking cue from SKM jis post ). We will fist take the inputs from all the members interested , what the Lagna lord would result in , if placed in various Houses and why of this result if we know ? Later on we will begin with all the Lagnas individually , once the above part is completed. I tell you if we learn the basics strongly and the results of planets placed in Houses and signs with the logic, each of us would be able to have the best ammunitions in his possession ,which normally most of us may not have, as we skip up the basics and jump to predictive and juicy parts straight away..... I will start with my post in the evening. Have to leave for office now.... If few of us participate then i would continue or else i would terminate this thread from my side. But this should be very interesting, knowledgable and a learning process for all astrologers novices or experts present on the Dias. It would also be fun to become a schoolboy and sit in the classroom and discuss. regards, Bhaskar. , skm chandran <colchandran wrote:>> Dear All,> There are not too many institutions which systematically research Astrological teachings. The writings of ancient sages are often interpreted depending on the skill of the translator. Often the in depth meanings are lost in translation. Some of the conditions, stipulations mentioned in ancient texts may not be applicable in present day context.> In AAG, I could recognize [just by reading the postings] many, very learned astrologers.As Mr. Bhaskerji has aptly put it in one mail, there are quite a few gems in the group. Since one of the main aims of the group is to do active research into astrology, I feel a more systematic method would help to reach some conclusions on various issues pertinent to present day.> Astrology is like an ocean. It is vast and the combinations are so many that it is very difficult to comprehend all aspects for an individual despite years and years of study. A clear picture may not emerge to most of the divine persons [astrologers are considered as divine persons in our part of the country] as BC [blind Chart] exercises have proved.> I had a passing thought that Astrological research is in away akin to " military intelligence" during actual war. Balltlefields are most unpredictable and we have a specialized Corps who collect various data and then put the bits together to give a possible scenario of the enemy's activities and likely course of action. Some times we get a near correct picture to follow up!!!!> The intelligence gathering has following five stages:-> > Collection.> Collation.> Analysis.> Synthesis.> Dissemination.> If we follow somewhat similar sequence in studies/ research, it might help. It would certainly be systematic. Say, we take up effects of Lagna Lord in various houses as research study, [ I am suggesting this since I saw a very well compiled and studied article by Shri. Sreenadhji in our file section , which can be the basis of further research].> Initially we may form ,say 12 groups, with one person nominated as leader [ Nomination of a leader could be a sensitive issue. Nomination as a leader does not mean he/she is the most brilliant in the group. In fact it could be voluntary].> > Stages of research would briefly involve :> > Collection of data. We have large number of practicing astrologers/ members who can contribute horoscopes of known individuals whose major events in life are known and can be made available for study. For this we should stipulate the Ayamansa to be followed and the system to be followed. If we follow different systems in computing horoscopes, it will only complicate matters. Each person who provide the horoscope for study should be able to give fairly accurate facts about the person concerned. The groups can ask for data pertaining to their area of study, for eg, group which is studying Lagna Lord in Lagna could ask for horoscopes with such configuration.> Collation of data. This is the second stage, where the raw data is segregated into various subgroups to facilitate study. Most cumbersome stage of the study. We may leave it to the group leaders to discuss and decide the modalities. Once this is done all groups should follow same pattern.> Analysis. This is the most important part of the study and most time consuming. Each chart to be studied in detail by the group. All differences of opinions should be discussed with in the group. This should lead to the next stage.> Synthesis. This is the crux of the study. After detailed deliberations, each group should come up with certain conclusions. This is where the senior and experienced members can contribute. If there is any serious variations in the analysis and the findings, this can be put down in the final group report with the logic behind the variations. > Dissemination. The study findings can be put up as Group Wisdom in the file section.> The success of the study depends on the sincerity of the members participating in it. There cannot be spats between genders, personalities and other extraneous issues during the conduct of study. Certain discipline and decorum would be ideal to reach anywhere.> > I am fully aware that this is not going to be an easy exercise. However we will be leaving the future students of this science a great boon, if we can attain our objectives and sustain it through further studies. Once this is attempted, it may open up further vistas since we are doing something with a clear aim. > > I am giving my thoughts. It is up to our group to look into this. I am certainly not trying to bring "Army" into this esteemed group.> With warm regards,> Col.Chandran> > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Bhaskar, Very nice post. I am ready to support the research work. May I suggest that the we should begin with the meaning of the houses. The meaning of house from the Jatak, Mundane and medical point of view etc. It is my only a suggestion but you are free to start from any point. Regards S.C.Kursija --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Re: Research in Astrology Thursday, July 24, 2008, 12:43 PM Dear all, A very good post. I wish to iniate a dialouge between the astrologers. The framework could begin with the Topic - Lagna Lord in various Houses ( taking cue from SKM jis post ). We will fist take the inputs from all the members interested , what the Lagna lord would result in , if placed in various Houses and why of this result if we know ? Later on we will begin with all the Lagnas individually , once the above part is completed. I tell you if we learn the basics strongly and the results of planets placed in Houses and signs with the logic, each of us would be able to have the best ammunitions in his possession ,which normally most of us may not have, as we skip up the basics and jump to predictive and juicy parts straight away..... I will start with my post in the evening. Have to leave for office now.... If few of us participate then i would continue or else i would terminate this thread from my side. But this should be very interesting, knowledgable and a learning process for all astrologers novices or experts present on the Dias. It would also be fun to become a schoolboy and sit in the classroom and discuss. regards, Bhaskar. ancient_indian_ astrology, skm chandran <colchandran@ ....> wrote: > > Dear All, > There are not too many institutions which systematically research Astrological teachings. The writings of ancient sages are often interpreted depending on the skill of the translator. Often the in depth meanings are lost in translation. Some of the conditions, stipulations mentioned in ancient texts may not be applicable in present day context. > In AAG, I could recognize [just by reading the postings] many, very learned astrologers. As Mr. Bhaskerji has aptly put it in one mail, there are quite a few gems in the group. Since one of the main aims of the group is to do active research into astrology, I feel a more systematic method would help to reach some conclusions on various issues pertinent to present day. > Astrology is like an ocean. It is vast and the combinations are so many that it is very difficult to comprehend all aspects for an individual despite years and years of study. A clear picture may not emerge to most of the divine persons [astrologers are considered as divine persons in our part of the country] as BC [blind Chart] exercises have proved. > I had a passing thought that Astrological research is in away akin to " military intelligence " during actual war. Balltlefields are most unpredictable and we have a specialized Corps who collect various data and then put the bits together to give a possible scenario of the enemy's activities and likely course of action. Some times we get a near correct picture to follow up!!!! > The intelligence gathering has following five stages:- > > Collection. > Collation. > Analysis. > Synthesis. > Dissemination. > If we follow somewhat similar sequence in studies/ research, it might help. It would certainly be systematic. Say, we take up effects of Lagna Lord in various houses as research study, [ I am suggesting this since I saw a very well compiled and studied article by Shri. Sreenadhji in our file section , which can be the basis of further research]. > Initially we may form ,say 12 groups, with one person nominated as leader [ Nomination of a leader could be a sensitive issue. Nomination as a leader does not mean he/she is the most brilliant in the group. In fact it could be voluntary]. > > Stages of research would briefly involve : > > Collection of data. We have large number of practicing astrologers/ members who can contribute horoscopes of known individuals whose major events in life are known and can be made available for study. For this we should stipulate the Ayamansa to be followed and the system to be followed. If we follow different systems in computing horoscopes, it will only complicate matters. Each person who provide the horoscope for study should be able to give fairly accurate facts about the person concerned. The groups can ask for data pertaining to their area of study, for eg, group which is studying Lagna Lord in Lagna could ask for horoscopes with such configuration. > Collation of data. This is the second stage, where the raw data is segregated into various subgroups to facilitate study. Most cumbersome stage of the study. We may leave it to the group leaders to discuss and decide the modalities. Once this is done all groups should follow same pattern. > Analysis. This is the most important part of the study and most time consuming. Each chart to be studied in detail by the group. All differences of opinions should be discussed with in the group. This should lead to the next stage. > Synthesis. This is the crux of the study. After detailed deliberations, each group should come up with certain conclusions. This is where the senior and experienced members can contribute. If there is any serious variations in the analysis and the findings, this can be put down in the final group report with the logic behind the variations. > Dissemination. The study findings can be put up as Group Wisdom in the file section. > The success of the study depends on the sincerity of the members participating in it. There cannot be spats between genders, personalities and other extraneous issues during the conduct of study. Certain discipline and decorum would be ideal to reach anywhere. > > I am fully aware that this is not going to be an easy exercise. However we will be leaving the future students of this science a great boon, if we can attain our objectives and sustain it through further studies. Once this is attempted, it may open up further vistas since we are doing something with a clear aim. > > I am giving my thoughts. It is up to our group to look into this. I am certainly not trying to bring " Army " into this esteemed group. > With warm regards, > Col.Chandran > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Mr. Kursija ji, In the previously posted Blind Chart analysis by Ms. Neelam, I poised few queries to the group...for discussion as a thread and to see why many peopel went outright wrong including me.....with facts with us....why not do fixing astrology and learn from it.... but none showed interest in it I just wanted to continue the thread as a pure research and learn practically....if interested it is not late even today to begin that exercise My questions were simple.... which played importance in them... - sign or planet or house ?? for that blind chart examples were interesting and data is reliable being coming from BVB astro_bank. Let me know ....for a thread or research...need few helping hands.... I can kick start it ....should I get a inkling.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 24, 2008 Report Share Posted July 24, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, Sreeram Srinivasji, Kursijaji and others in favour of research in astrology, You can call it research or even developing awareness but there is need to know the relative importance of the different factors / parameters in astrology. I wish to share the following thoughts with you. We take the Sun for granted but the Sun is the most important, particularly in the matters of State/ Government. It is the rising Sun (Ascendent), which allocates the different portfolios (houses) to the different grahas. Then comes the effect of the Moon in the form of the lunar sign. Then comes Jupiter. Astronomically also the earth is being saved by Jupiter otherwise the meteoric showers could probably have wiped out the living beings on the earth. Can we ignore the mighty Saturn even though some of us may not believe in Sadesati, which is nothing but the effect of the Saturn while moving through the 12th,1st and the 2nd houses in the Rashi-kundali. If the Saturn is debilitated then one can have relatively more loss of mental peace due to setbacks in personal relationships particularly in relaionship with spouse, career and income, one after the other, during those seven and half years. The other planets have their roles too. For example at times there can be problem if mercury is on the twelfth house. We all know about the Bhauma dosha. However it is easier said than done. It is not easy to work out the relative importance of the grahas as this may be different in different horoscopes. An expert astrologer, depending on his knowledge and experience, develops an intuition that finds our the problems and the solutions. Still obscure is the role of the individual nakshatras and we probably do not have the insight that our ancestors had. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 7/24/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Re: Research in Astrology Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:46 AM Dear Mr. Kursija ji, In the previously posted Blind Chart analysis by Ms. Neelam, I poised few queries to the group...for discussion as a thread and to see why many peopel went outright wrong including me.....with facts with us....why not do fixing astrology and learn from it.... but none showed interest in it I just wanted to continue the thread as a pure research and learn practically. ...if interested it is not late even today to begin that exercise My questions were simple.... which played importance in them... - sign or planet or house ?? for that blind chart examples were interesting and data is reliable being coming from BVB astro_bank. Let me know ....for a thread or research...need few helping hands.... I can kick start it ....should I get a inkling.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Respected Sunil Bhattcharya ji, We know that there some difficulties. We do not understand the full meaning of Sign, Houses, Planets, different dasha and transit. What to say of combinations .. So we want to join hands to explore and rediscover what is available with us and what is not. But I know we can do it only earnest desire is required. Regards. S.C.Kursija --- On Thu, 7/24/08, Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya Re: Research in Astrology Thursday, July 24, 2008, 10:09 PM Dear Bhaskarji, Sreeram Srinivasji, Kursijaji and others in favour of research in astrology, You can call it research or even developing awareness but there is need to know the relative importance of the different factors / parameters in astrology. I wish to share the following thoughts with you. We take the Sun for granted but the Sun is the most important, particularly in the matters of State/ Government. It is the rising Sun (Ascendent), which allocates the different portfolios (houses) to the different grahas. Then comes the effect of the Moon in the form of the lunar sign. Then comes Jupiter. Astronomically also the earth is being saved by Jupiter otherwise the meteoric showers could probably have wiped out the living beings on the earth. Can we ignore the mighty Saturn even though some of us may not believe in Sadesati, which is nothing but the effect of the Saturn while moving through the 12th,1st and the 2nd houses in the Rashi-kundali. If the Saturn is debilitated then one can have relatively more loss of mental peace due to setbacks in personal relationships particularly in relaionship with spouse, career and income, one after the other, during those seven and half years. The other planets have their roles too. For example at times there can be problem if mercury is on the twelfth house. We all know about the Bhauma dosha. However it is easier said than done. It is not easy to work out the relative importance of the grahas as this may be different in different horoscopes. An expert astrologer, depending on his knowledge and experience, develops an intuition that finds our the problems and the solutions. Still obscure is the role of the individual nakshatras and we probably do not have the insight that our ancestors had. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Thu, 7/24/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote: sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Research in Astrology ancient_indian_ astrology Thursday, July 24, 2008, 7:46 AM Dear Mr. Kursija ji, In the previously posted Blind Chart analysis by Ms. Neelam, I poised few queries to the group...for discussion as a thread and to see why many peopel went outright wrong including me.....with facts with us....why not do fixing astrology and learn from it.... but none showed interest in it I just wanted to continue the thread as a pure research and learn practically. ...if interested it is not late even today to begin that exercise My questions were simple.... which played importance in them... - sign or planet or house ?? for that blind chart examples were interesting and data is reliable being coming from BVB astro_bank. Let me know ....for a thread or research...need few helping hands.... I can kick start it ....should I get a inkling.... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Sreenadhji, First of all my apologies for persisting with a subject which does not seem to evince much interest in our group. My understanding of scientific research involves following essential elements:- Subject of Study. The person/ group should be focused on a specific subject into which studies are undertaken. There is no dearth of subjects in astrology which need to be further studied. Certain guidelines are spelt out as to the areas which the study should delve into. [in Army, we call it “Terms of reference”] This is done to avoid digressions, which can easily crop into the study. Researchers. We all know that research is done at “post-graduate” level in scientific subject. Even though we don’t have formal degrees in “Astrology”,we have many in the group, who qualify with very advanced knowledge of the subject. The researcher, in this instance, has nothing personal to gain. He has to be motivated to contribute his valuable time and effort for a common cause. This may be the reason for lack of total response to the suggestion to go into research “mode”. May be the solution lies in finding some sponsors to finance the effort. I am attaching a list of Institutions where astrology is being taught as a curriculum. Soon we may have “ qualified” youngsters in our midst. Guides. We need “experts” who can guide the research and modalities of study. Our Om Namashivaya [ONS]Group members should be able to act as guides to the study. Here again, most of our members may be doing professional work and it may very difficult and mentally tiring to spare time to get into this. An effort can be made to find sponsors who can assist in underwriting the actual cost in terms of internet time etc which are taken up for study. Method of Research. The method which is practicable is to do systematic case studies. I have already elaborated on this . The basics have to be studied in detail before each aspect is analysed.[ I had suggested 12 study groups since there are 12 Zodiac signs and I realize that it may be difficult even to get one group organized.]. The study group or researchers can discuss the issues involved within themselves rather than putting every query or point in the group mail. Findings or Conclusions. Every researcher or group should come up with their findings or conclusions with in a stipulated time frame to be decided by the guides or moderators. These can be put up on the group site to invite comments from all . Once the findings are discussed , it may be modified , if required and then uploaded to Group Wisdom site. I must thank those members who had the patience to read through the mail. I can assure you I will not write again on this topic. With warm regards, Col.Chandran --- On Sat, 7/26/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Research in Astrology Saturday, July 26, 2008, 9:00 AM Dear Chandran ji, An excellent post. I appreciate the sincerety and scientific approach with which it is presented even though does not agree to many points (such as forming 12 different groups etc) put forward in the mail. Thanks for the excellent guideline. It is such posts that makes the mails posted in the group worth reading. Love and regards, Sreenadh Recent Activity 33 New Members 4 New Links 15 New FilesVisit Your Group New business? Get new customers. List your web site in Search. Familyographer Zone Learn how to capture family moments. Everyday Wellness on Find groups that will help you stay fit. .. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Respected Col.Chandran, I am fully agreed with you. single topic, formation of groups for different topics, discussion among group members, etc but there is some hesitation for stipulated time period as every one is busy and has limited time. I would like to suggest that research should be done in mundane so that we can do some thing for the humanity at large. We can minimise the lose of human and wealth and raise the respect for astrology. S.C.Kursija 9350227360 --- On Mon, 7/28/08, skm chandran <colchandran wrote: skm chandran <colchandran Re: Research in Astrology Monday, July 28, 2008, 11:58 AM Dear Sreenadhji, First of all my apologies for persisting with a subject which does not seem to evince much interest in our group. My understanding of scientific research involves following essential elements:- Subject of Study. The person/ group should be focused on a specific subject into which studies are undertaken. There is no dearth of subjects in astrology which need to be further studied. Certain guidelines are spelt out as to the areas which the study should delve into. [in Army, we call it “Terms of reference”] This is done to avoid digressions, which can easily crop into the study. Researchers. We all know that research is done at “post-graduate” level in scientific subject. Even though we don’t have formal degrees in “Astrology”,we have many in the group, who qualify with very advanced knowledge of the subject. The researcher, in this instance, has nothing personal to gain. He has to be motivated to contribute his valuable time and effort for a common cause. This may be the reason for lack of total response to the suggestion to go into research “mode”. May be the solution lies in finding some sponsors to finance the effort. I am attaching a list of Institutions where astrology is being taught as a curriculum. Soon we may have “ qualified” youngsters in our midst. Guides. We need “experts” who can guide the research and modalities of study. Our Om Namashivaya [ONS]Group members should be able to act as guides to the study. Here again, most of our members may be doing professional work and it may very difficult and mentally tiring to spare time to get into this. An effort can be made to find sponsors who can assist in underwriting the actual cost in terms of internet time etc which are taken up for study. Method of Research. The method which is practicable is to do systematic case studies. I have already elaborated on this . The basics have to be studied in detail before each aspect is analysed.[ I had suggested 12 study groups since there are 12 Zodiac signs and I realize that it may be difficult even to get one group organized.]. The study group or researchers can discuss the issues involved within themselves rather than putting every query or point in the group mail. Findings or Conclusions. Every researcher or group should come up with their findings or conclusions with in a stipulated time frame to be decided by the guides or moderators. These can be put up on the group site to invite comments from all . Once the findings are discussed , it may be modified , if required and then uploaded to Group Wisdom site. I must thank those members who had the patience to read through the mail. I can assure you I will not write again on this topic. With warm regards, Col.Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Col. Chandran ji, Me too fully agree with your views. But the problem is that in this busy world, every one has limited time only, and thus the end result would be that research becomes an individual process. Let us look at this group - the following are the individuals who provide research write-ups: 1) Chandrahari 2) Sreenadh 3) Neelam Gupata 4) Sunil Nair (occationally) 5) Bhaskar ji (occationally) 6) (occationally) 7) Souvik Datta (occationally) 8) Avatar Krishnan Kaul (occationally) 7) Krishnamurthy Seetharama (occationally) Where are all the others? How many of them, you believe, are doing research in the direction you suggested, following same or similar methodology? Me, Neelam ji, Sunil ji and who else? About them too - Are they dedicated enough with a clear view in mind and having enough free time for research? There could be many gray areas - facts of life. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Col.Chandran,> I am fully agreed with you. single topic, formation of groups for different topics, discussion among group members, etc but there is some hesitation for stipulated time period as every one is busy and has limited time. I would like to suggest that research should be done in mundane so that we can do some thing for the humanity at large. We can minimise the lose of human and wealth and raise the respect for astrology.> > > S.C.Kursija> 9350227360> > --- On Mon, 7/28/08, skm chandran colchandran wrote:> > skm chandran colchandran Re: Research in Astrology> > Monday, July 28, 2008, 11:58 AM> > Dear Sreenadhji,> First of all my apologies for persisting with a subject which does not seem to evince much interest in our group. My understanding of scientific research involves following essential elements:-> ?> > Subject of Study.? The person/ group should be focused on a specific subject into which studies are undertaken. There is no dearth of subjects in astrology which need to be further studied. Certain guidelines are spelt out as to the areas which the study should delve into. [in Army, we call it ?Terms of reference?] This is done to avoid digressions, which can easily crop into the study.> Researchers.? We all know that research is done at ?post-graduate? level in scientific subject. Even though we don?t have formal degrees in ?Astrology?,we have many in the group, who qualify with very advanced knowledge of the subject. The researcher, in this instance, has nothing personal to gain. He has to be motivated to contribute his valuable time and effort for a common cause. This may be the reason for lack of total response to the suggestion to go into research ?mode?. May be the solution lies in finding some sponsors to finance the effort. I am attaching a list of? Institutions? where astrology is being taught as a curriculum. Soon we may have ? qualified? youngsters in our midst.> Guides.? We need ?experts? who can guide the research and modalities of study. Our Om Namashivaya [ONS]Group members should be able to act as guides to the study. Here again, most of our members may be doing professional work and it may very difficult and mentally tiring to spare time to get into this. An effort can be made to find sponsors who can assist in underwriting the actual cost in terms of internet time etc which are taken up for study.> Method of Research. The method which is practicable is to do systematic case studies. I have already elaborated on this . The basics have to be studied in detail before each aspect is analysed.[ I had suggested 12 study groups since there are 12 Zodiac signs and I realize that it may be difficult even to get one group organized.]. The study group or researchers can discuss the issues involved within themselves rather than putting every query or point in the group mail.> Findings or Conclusions. Every researcher or group should come up with their findings or conclusions with in a stipulated time frame to be decided by the guides or moderators. These can be put up on the group site to invite comments from all . Once the findings are discussed , it may be modified , if required? and?? then uploaded to Group Wisdom site.> ?> I must thank those members who had the patience to read through the mail. I can assure you I will not write again on this topic.> With warm regards,> Col.Chandran> ?> ?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dear Bhaskerji, I never even "thought" that we could find astrologers who could teach "you" astrology. In fact ,I never wrote anything like that.If you are referring to ONS , it is group within our group. I do not even know who are the members in that. So, there is no implied meaning please. Sreenadhji had elucidated the problems in doing systematic research in a forum like ours where time is at a premium for most of the senior persons.I see his point. It is "status quo" as far the group is concerned. I have some businessmen friends who have expressed willingness to sponsor advanced studies in astrology. I am now planning to contact one of the Institutes[preferably in Kerala] where astrology is being taught, to ascertain whether any advanced studies are undertaken and any financial assistance is needed. That is what I have in mind. With warm regards, Col.Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dear Chandran, I am writing with heavy heart that after teaching astrology since 1991, I am unable to give prediction regarding earthquake, terrorist activies, tsunami, rain, flood or famine etc to save humanity and wealth of the country. We want to save humanity and lessen the suffering of human being. But we consider ourselves perfect and can not hear any thing which hurts our ego. We have lost our tolerance power. We can not be humble. But I know that the tree which bears fruit have to bear maximum stones also. But still he bends maximum. We are human being. We can never be perfect. God is only perfect. It is the curse of Saraswati. One becomes egoistic with knowledge. So please shade your ego and work for the humanity. With love and regards.S.C.Kursija9350227360--- On Wed, 7/30/08, skm chandran <colchandran wrote: skm chandran <colchandran Re: Research in Astrology Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 10:21 AM Dear Bhaskerji, I never even "thought" that we could find astrologers who could teach "you" astrology. In fact ,I never wrote anything like that.If you are referring to ONS , it is group within our group. I do not even know who are the members in that. So, there is no implied meaning please. Sreenadhji had elucidated the problems in doing systematic research in a forum like ours where time is at a premium for most of the senior persons.I see his point. It is "status quo" as far the group is concerned. I have some businessmen friends who have expressed willingness to sponsor advanced studies in astrology. I am now planning to contact one of the Institutes[preferab ly in Kerala] where astrology is being taught, to ascertain whether any advanced studies are undertaken and any financial assistance is needed. That is what I have in mind. With warm regards, Col.Chandran Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dear Shri Kursijaji, I know you are a knowledgable person in mundane. please whenever you can spare your time, it would be helpful if you kindly start sharing the pivots necessary in mundane astrology, starting with what are the tehnical requisites necessary for ex. aspects , Sayana or Nirayana, whatever is necssary to read mundane, and how to do it. This is what you can give us. Which you must. Of course whenever time affords. i can be a good learner and student for same, and promise that would not argue unless and until have learnt well. In return we can just give you best wishes on our part. And though you are elder to me in all respects, but good wishes from the heart can convert to blessings of the almighty, without doubt, to give all that may be due to you. kind regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 30, 2008 Report Share Posted July 30, 2008 Dear Kursija ji, Chandran ji, Bhaskar ji and all,==>The tree which bears fruit have to bear maximum stones also. But still he bends maximum. <== That is a beautiful statement! ==>Chandran ji to Bhaskar ji: I never even "thought" that we could find astrologers who could teach "you" astrology. Kursija ji to Chandran ji: One becomes egoistic with knowledge? So please shade your ego and work for the humanity.<== Please.....No contraversies please.... We are all friends and has a loving heart inside. Let us not hurt each other. ==>Bhaskar ji to Chandran ji: There was some talk from your side of getting some qualified astrologers here for teaching us astrology, and also about some sponsors. Is there some progress in this area ?Chadran Ji to Bhaskar ji: In fact ,I never wrote anything like that.If you are referring to ONS , it is group within our group. I do not even know who are the members in that. So, there is no implied meaning please.<==Dear Bhaskar ji, as Chandran ji said, Me too don't remember Chandran ji stating anything like that at all!! What you are referring to?! Let us not stretch thing and assume implied meanings.... ==>I have some businessmen friends who have expressed willingness to sponsor advanced studies in astrology. I am now planning to contact one of the Institutes[preferably in Kerala] where astrology is being taught, to ascertain whether any advanced studies are undertaken and any financial assistance is needed. That is what I have in mind.<== It is a good idea since there are many knowledgeable individuals and well learned astrologers in Kerala. We (AIA Moderators) are also thinking of forming an institution for research in astrology (Virtual or Physical; but certainly intended for real work); plans for accumulating intial investment amount, membership charges etc are also under consideration; anywhy the thought is in its childhood only; It may take at least an year for something solid to emerge. But the point I wanted to make was - Certainly we too are thinking almost in the same lines. Let us see what is possible. Anyway Research is not a light weight task. Let us ignore this subject for a while and continue with our daily efforts and learning in this group. As the time ripe more inputs and plans may emerge.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Dear Chandran,> I am writing with heavy heart that after teaching astrology since 1991, I am unable to give prediction regarding earthquake, terrorist activies, tsunami, rain, flood or famine etc to save humanity and wealth of the country. We want to save humanity and lessen the suffering of human being. But we consider ourselves perfect and can not hear any thing which hurts our ego. We have lost our tolerance power. We can not be humble. But I know that the tree which bears fruit have to bear maximum stones also. But still he bends maximum. We are human being. We can never be perfect. God is only perfect. It is the curse of Saraswati. One becomes egoistic with knowledge.?So please shade your ego and work for the humanity.> With love and regards.> > S.C.Kursija> 9350227360> > --- On Wed, 7/30/08, skm chandran colchandran wrote:> > skm chandran colchandran Re: Research in Astrology> > Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 10:21 AM> > Dear Bhaskerji,> I never even "thought" that we could find astrologers who could teach "you" astrology. In fact ,I never wrote anything like that.If you are referring to ONS , it is group within our group. I do not even know who are the members in that. So, there is no implied meaning please.> Sreenadhji had elucidated the problems in doing systematic research in a forum like ours where time is at a premium for most of the senior persons.I see his point. It is "status quo" as far the group is concerned.> I have?some businessmen ?friends who have expressed willingness to sponsor advanced studies in astrology. I am now planning to contact one of the Institutes[preferab ly in?Kerala] where astrology is being taught,?to ascertain whether any?advanced studies are undertaken and any financial assistance is needed.??That is what I have in mind.> With warm regards,> Col.Chandran?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Respected Bhaskar ji, Thanks for the complements. I am only a student in Mundane and have long way to cover in mundane astrology. But I know that Mundane astrology, only mundane astrology can bring lost respect to astrology. The government can recommend an astrologer to member of rajya shabha only on the basis of mundane astrology.Love and regardsS.C.Kursija--- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Re: Research in Astrology Date: Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 3:03 PM Dear Shri Kursijaji, I know you are a knowledgable person in mundane. please whenever you can spare your time, it would be helpful if you kindly start sharing the pivots necessary in mundane astrology, starting with what are the tehnical requisites necessary for ex. aspects , Sayana or Nirayana, whatever is necssary to read mundane, and how to do it. This is what you can give us. Which you must. Of course whenever time affords. i can be a good learner and student for same, and promise that would not argue unless and until have learnt well. In return we can just give you best wishes on our part. And though you are elder to me in all respects, but good wishes from the heart can convert to blessings of the almighty, without doubt, to give all that may be due to you. kind regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Kursijaji. I can enter the goverment fraternity anythime i wish to, start predicting there and make myself a place for them to respect astrology. I am witholding that for another 2 years for some reasons, as I wish to explore mundane astrology further. But this does not prevent me from working on a personal levels, and i have many industrialists and big people of India, who refer constantly and regularly to me, and respect astrology. You see my Forum too was judged worthwhile to be included in the Moderators union 2008 Bombay, india, there were just about 25 people invited among a millions of groups of India. So i did manage to create respect for astrology in the eyes of , who are also a Magnum opus, and i did this without being a exponent of Mundane. I am also among the few astrologers who shows income from Astrology and pays Income tax on the same. Probably by end of next year, I would be pooling in all the astrologers of India, to include our name on the List of professionals just llike the CA's and the Doctors. I have this in mind. Mundane or no mundane, we shall do it. And i am personallly available for them any time to take a challenge anythime for any predictions, regardless of any failures, to champion the cause of this great Divine Science. best wishes, bhaskar. , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar ji,> Thanks for the complements. I am only a student in Mundane and have long way to cover in mundane astrology. But I know that Mundane astrology, only mundane astrology can bring lost respect to astrology. The government can recommend an astrologer to member of rajya shabha only on the basis of mundane astrology.> Love and regards> S.C.Kursija> > > --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote:> > Bhaskar rajiventerprises Re: Research in Astrology> > Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 3:03 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Kursijaji,> I know you are a knowledgable person in mundane.> please whenever you can spare your time, it would be helpful if you kindly start sharing the pivots necessary in mundane astrology, starting with what are the tehnical requisites necessary for ex. aspects , Sayana or Nirayana, whatever is necssary to read mundane, and how to do it.> This is what you can give us. Which you must. Of course whenever time affords.> i can be a good learner and student for same, and promise that would not argue unless and until have learnt well.> In return we can just give you best wishes on our part.? And though you are elder to me in all respects, but good wishes?from the heart can convert to blessings of the almighty, without doubt, to give all that may be due to you.> kind regards,> Bhaskar.> ?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Shri Kursija ji, Knowing your credentials , you are the right person to enter the government corridors and create waves there. you must do it. We are behind you as students. Though I need at least another 5 years more rigorous studies and training to be considered as a good student, but i hope you move forward and do the needful. regards, Bhaskar. , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> Respected Bhaskar ji,> Thanks for the complements. I am only a student in Mundane and have long way to cover in mundane astrology. But I know that Mundane astrology, only mundane astrology can bring lost respect to astrology. The government can recommend an astrologer to member of rajya shabha only on the basis of mundane astrology.> Love and regards> S.C.Kursija> > > --- On Wed, 7/30/08, Bhaskar rajiventerprises wrote:> > Bhaskar rajiventerprises Re: Research in Astrology> > Wednesday, July 30, 2008, 3:03 PM> > > > > > > > Dear Shri Kursijaji,> I know you are a knowledgable person in mundane.> please whenever you can spare your time, it would be helpful if you kindly start sharing the pivots necessary in mundane astrology, starting with what are the tehnical requisites necessary for ex. aspects , Sayana or Nirayana, whatever is necssary to read mundane, and how to do it.> This is what you can give us. Which you must. Of course whenever time affords.> i can be a good learner and student for same, and promise that would not argue unless and until have learnt well.> In return we can just give you best wishes on our part.? And though you are elder to me in all respects, but good wishes?from the heart can convert to blessings of the almighty, without doubt, to give all that may be due to you.> kind regards,> Bhaskar.> ?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear All,We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane astrology. They affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are visible. It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to earthquakes. The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which is still recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath.Important point is that in India's independence chart, the eclipse is in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always the house on fire.Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August in Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao had predicted the outbreak of World War I.Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and there is a lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb attacks, external interference, etc. Now what next? Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I would request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell us about its implications, if any, for India.RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Neelamji, " It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. " i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the following website: http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/solar.html love, vinita , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane astrology. They > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are visible. > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to earthquakes. > > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which is still > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath. > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the eclipse is > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always the house > on fire. > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August in > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and there is a > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb attacks, > external interference, etc. Now what next? > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I would > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell us about > its implications, if any, for India. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Vinitaji, There was a similar occurrence of a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse within 14 days in the middle of 3139 BCE and there was the Mahabharata war immediately after that. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya vinita kumar <shankar_mamta Friday, August 1, 2008 9:41:20 AM Re: Research in Astrology Dear Neelamji, " It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. " i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the following website: http://eclipse. gsfc.nasa. gov/solar. html love, vinita ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane astrology. They > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are visible. > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to earthquakes. > > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which is still > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath. > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the eclipse is > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always the house > on fire. > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August in > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and there is a > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb attacks, > external interference, etc. Now what next? > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I would > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell us about > its implications, if any, for India. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Vinitaji,I guess normally the lunar eclipse follows after 15 days. It is rare that the two eclipses fall within 14 days.I am not much into mundane and definitely not much of an astronomer also... may be someone else can give a better clarification. RegardsNeelam2008/8/1 Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya Dear Vinitaji, There was a similar occurrence of a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse within 14 days in the middle of 3139 BCE and there was the Mahabharata war immediately after that. Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya vinita kumar <shankar_mamta Friday, August 1, 2008 9:41:20 AM Re: Research in Astrology Dear Neelamji, " It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. " i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the following website: http://eclipse. gsfc.nasa. gov/solar. html love, vinita ancient_indian_ astrology, " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote: > > Dear All, > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane astrology. They > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are visible. > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to earthquakes. > > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which is still > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath. > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the eclipse is > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always the house > on fire. > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August in > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc. > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and there is a > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb attacks, > external interference, etc. Now what next? > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I would > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell us about > its implications, if any, for India. > > Regards > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear leanred members, Thank you for a valuable thread as this. In 2004, we had Oct 14 2004 - partial Solar eclipse Oct 28 2004 - total lunar eclipse we saw tsunami devastation in Dec 2004 Maybe, when I have time I will search and try to come up with similar situation, two eclipses within 15 days Rgds, bhagavathi , " vinita kumar " <shankar_mamta wrote: > > Dear Neelamji, > > " It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or > assassination etc. > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when > Suryanarain Rao > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. " > > i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses > generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the following > website: > > http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/solar.html > > love, > vinita > > , " neelam gupta " > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > Dear All, > > > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane > astrology. They > > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are > visible. > > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its > > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to > earthquakes. > > > > > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which > is still > > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath. > > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the > eclipse is > > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always > the house > > on fire. > > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August > in > > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one > lunar happen > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or > assassination etc. > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when > Suryanarain Rao > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I. > > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and > there is a > > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb > attacks, > > external interference, etc. Now what next? > > > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I > would > > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell > us about > > its implications, if any, for India. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear all, I have heard that whn the lunar eclipse follows the solar, its beneficial , and when the solar follows the lunar, its malefic. Is this true ? on what grounds ? Now when we are talking oif eclipses what do the smart ( Learned) ones over here have to talk about the future due to eclipse ? What would be the implications ? Where would they fall on the natal charts and otherwise ? We have got fed up of general predictions, of political unrests, earthquakes, terrorist attacks. political leaders dying , landslides, etc. ( Because this is happenning everywhere and anytime of the year ) can anyone tell us what will happen and where exactly ? and when ? and about individuals, which political leader would be assasinated or removed from power ? Where and when ? And his name ? otherwise all talks of eclipse and mundane is a waste, if none of us can predict, when , where, how and related to whom individually, or which country nationwise ?. I cannot predict all the above, and am not interested in fooling anybody or myself by generalising. Bhaskar. , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Vinitaji,> > I guess normally the lunar eclipse follows after 15 days. It is rare that> the two eclipses fall within 14 days.> I am not much into mundane and definitely not much of an astronomer also...> may be someone else can give a better clarification.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > 2008/8/1 Sunil Bhattacharjya sunil_bhattacharjya > > Dear Vinitaji,> >> > There was a similar occurrence of a solar eclipse and a lunar eclipse> > within 14 days in the middle of 3139 BCE and there was the Mahabharata war> > immediately after that.> >> > Regards,> >> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> >> >> > > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta<shankar_mamta%40.co.uk>> > >> > <%40>> > Friday, August 1, 2008 9:41:20 AM> > Re: Research in Astrology> >> > Dear Neelamji,> >> > "It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen> > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or> > assassination etc.> > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when> > Suryanarain Rao> > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I."> >> > i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses> > generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the following> > website:> >> > http://eclipse. gsfc.nasa. gov/solar. html> >> > love,> > vinita> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta"> > <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > >> > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane> > astrology. They> > > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are> > visible.> > > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its> > > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to> > earthquakes.> > >> > >> > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which> > is still> > > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath.> > > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the> > eclipse is> > > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is always> > the house> > > on fire.> > > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August> > in> > > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one> > lunar happen> > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or> > assassination etc.> > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when> > Suryanarain Rao> > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I.> > > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and> > there is a> > > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb> > attacks,> > > external interference, etc. Now what next?> > >> > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I> > would> > > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell> > us about> > > its implications, if any, for India.> > >> > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Bhagwathiji, do you mean to suggest, that this is a pointer for a return of Tsunami ? If so, then where would it happen, and when ? I stay just 1/2 a kilometre from the sea, so if you tell me, i would be saved . I have already seen the whole of Bombay drowning in water, in a vision, long back, and since last 2 weeks, I have a women , old women, with long hair, who visits the kitchen in my house, after midnight and fills water. She comes from the ether, and vanishes in the ether. This is not a vision, but reality. She does not harm anyone. No one has the guts to confront her. And I would probably faint if I see her. What would this mean ? regards, Bhaskar. , "bhagavathi_hariharan" <bhagavathi_hariharan wrote:>> Dear leanred members,> > Thank you for a valuable thread as this. In 2004, we had> > Oct 14 2004 - partial Solar eclipse> Oct 28 2004 - total lunar eclipse> > we saw tsunami devastation in Dec 2004> > Maybe, when I have time I will search and try to come up with similar > situation, two eclipses within 15 days> > Rgds,> > bhagavathi > > > , "vinita kumar" > shankar_mamta@ wrote:> >> > Dear Neelamji, > > > > "It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen> > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or > > assassination etc.> > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when > > Suryanarain Rao> > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I."> > > > i am afraid that may not be entirely correct. Annual eclipses > > generally occur twice every year in pairs....Check out the > following > > website:> > > > http://eclipse.gsfc.nasa.gov/solar.html> > > > love,> > vinita> > > > , "neelam gupta" > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear All,> > > > > > We all know eclipses have great signification in mundane > > astrology. They> > > affect nations and leaders, specially in countries where they are > > visible.> > > It is said that effects of eclipse is felt within 6 months of its> > > occurrence. Brihat Samhita has also related eclipses to > > earthquakes.> > > > > > > > > - The eclipse has happened in cancer in pushya, the sign which > > is still> > > recovering from the mars-ketu aftermath.> > > - Important point is that in India's independence chart, the > > eclipse is> > > in 3H where we have all the planets and for India, it is > always > > the house> > > on fire.> > > - Lunar eclipse is also coming in the same month, on 16 August > > in> > > Aquarius. It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one > > lunar happen> > > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or > > assassination etc.> > > There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when > > Suryanarain Rao> > > had predicted the outbreak of World War I.> > > - Already the nation is passing through a sensitive phase and > > there is a> > > lot of national unrest with internal politics, terrorism, bomb > > attacks,> > > external interference, etc. Now what next?> > > > > > Why don't we make a new mundane beginning with today's eclipse. I > > would> > > request Kursija ji to start his mundane lesson with this and tell > > us about> > > its implications, if any, for India.> > > > > > Regards> > > Neelam> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 1, 2008 Report Share Posted August 1, 2008 Dear Bhaskarji, I thought the thread was on the significance of two eclipses within 15 days time. //It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc.// //There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao had predicted the outbreak of World War I.// So the discussion was whether it is a rare event, since I am very proud of my memory, I just cited the event that occured in 2004. I find everything interesting in life, so I thought in my spare time, I will find out similar events that happened before. it is possible, the eclipses have an indication of some disaster. You live 1/2 a kilometer from the sea, I live on the seawall itself, I drive my car over the sea everyday, I live on an island that is hurricane prone, the season runs from June- Nov, I have evacuated on hurricane threat before, even that time I very much wanted to be in my own house, but the City Mayor would not allow anyone to stay. There is a saying, " In a ship wreck that occcured, all but one was killed, the " lucky " man was happy and he went to the shore and though of resting under an old roof, the roof was so old that it fell on him and killed him instantaneously " , so how does it matter, how you die Maybe what you have been dreaming will come true. Regarding the woman who comes to your house, she could have been someone who has been attached to that place so dearly that she visits everyday. I would put this in my " to-do-research-list " . Please note that I am not trying to criticize anything. I am not the right person with whom you should talk about fear and death, because these two words mean nothing to me, I am neither scared of death nor have any kind of fear in heart Regards bhagavathi , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Bhagwathiji, > > do you mean to suggest, that this is a pointer for a return of Tsunami ? > If so, then where would it happen, and when ? I stay just 1/2 a > kilometre from the sea, so if you tell me, i would be saved . I have > already seen the whole of Bombay drowning in water, in a vision, long > back, and since last 2 weeks, I have a women , old women, with long > hair, who visits the kitchen in my house, after midnight and fills > water. She comes from the ether, and vanishes in the ether. This is not > a vision, but reality. She does not harm anyone. No one has the guts to > confront her. And I would probably faint if I see her. What would this > mean ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Dear Bhagavati ji,//I am neither scared of death nor have any kind of fear in heart// Very well said Bhagavati ji, death is only life beyond.... and what is fear? We are looking for eclipses within 14 days time. This is very rare. I am glad you took interest in finding that out. Please do continue with your effort, whatever others may say, and tell us about your findings. Lets us note down the years when unusual eclipses happened and see if it translated into any unusual happening in the world. If possible, we may also see the intensity of eclipses, their visiblity, solar first or lunar first, the saros cycle and of course the exact time lapse between the two. RegardsNeelam2008/8/2 bhagavathi_hariharan <bhagavathi_hariharan Dear Bhaskarji, I thought the thread was on the significance of two eclipses within 15 days time. //It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or assassination etc.// //There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when Suryanarain Rao had predicted the outbreak of World War I.// So the discussion was whether it is a rare event, since I am very proud of my memory, I just cited the event that occured in 2004. I find everything interesting in life, so I thought in my spare time, I will find out similar events that happened before. it is possible, the eclipses have an indication of some disaster. You live 1/2 a kilometer from the sea, I live on the seawall itself, I drive my car over the sea everyday, I live on an island that is hurricane prone, the season runs from June- Nov, I have evacuated on hurricane threat before, even that time I very much wanted to be in my own house, but the City Mayor would not allow anyone to stay. There is a saying, " In a ship wreck that occcured, all but one was killed, the " lucky " man was happy and he went to the shore and though of resting under an old roof, the roof was so old that it fell on him and killed him instantaneously " , so how does it matter, how you die Maybe what you have been dreaming will come true. Regarding the woman who comes to your house, she could have been someone who has been attached to that place so dearly that she visits everyday. I would put this in my " to-do-research-list " . Please note that I am not trying to criticize anything. I am not the right person with whom you should talk about fear and death, because these two words mean nothing to me, I am neither scared of death nor have any kind of fear in heart Regards bhagavathi , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear Bhagwathiji, > > do you mean to suggest, that this is a pointer for a return of Tsunami ? > If so, then where would it happen, and when ? I stay just 1/2 a > kilometre from the sea, so if you tell me, i would be saved . I have > already seen the whole of Bombay drowning in water, in a vision, long > back, and since last 2 weeks, I have a women , old women, with long > hair, who visits the kitchen in my house, after midnight and fills > water. She comes from the ether, and vanishes in the ether. This is not > a vision, but reality. She does not harm anyone. No one has the guts to > confront her. And I would probably faint if I see her. What would this > mean ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 2, 2008 Report Share Posted August 2, 2008 Comments - no one wishes to die actually, those whose Life is running smoothly without much hitches. We dont want to go away from our families, that is the truth. As regards to fear, most of us would get scared to see , pisachinis, pretanis, or the surgeons knife. Without fear no man can be. Kitaabi baat and spending a raat in a haunted house both are seperate matters. That is the truth. best wishes, bhaskar. , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Bhagavati ji,> > //I am neither scared of death nor have any kind of fear in heart//> > Very well said Bhagavati ji, death is only life beyond.... and what is fear?> > > We are looking for eclipses within 14 days time. This is very rare. I am> glad you took interest in finding that out. Please do continue with your> effort, whatever others may say, and tell us about your findings.> Lets us note down the years when unusual eclipses happened and see if it> translated into any unusual happening in the world.> > If possible, we may also see the intensity of eclipses, their visiblity,> solar first or lunar first, the saros cycle and of course the exact time> lapse between the two.> > Regards> Neelam> > > 2008/8/2 bhagavathi_hariharan bhagavathi_hariharan > > Dear Bhaskarji,> >> > I thought the thread was on the significance of two eclipses within> > 15 days time.> >> > //It is said that, if two eclipses, one solar and one lunar happen> >> > within 14 days, there is a national disaster or war or> > assassination etc.//> >> > //There were two eclipses in March 1914 within 14 days, when> > Suryanarain Rao had predicted the outbreak of World War I.//> >> > So the discussion was whether it is a rare event, since I am very> > proud of my memory, I just cited the event that occured in 2004. I> > find everything interesting in life, so I thought in my spare time, I> > will find out similar events that happened before. it is possible,> > the eclipses have an indication of some disaster.> >> > You live 1/2 a kilometer from the sea, I live on the seawall itself,> > I drive my car over the sea everyday, I live on an island that is> > hurricane prone, the season runs from June- Nov, I have evacuated on> > hurricane threat before, even that time I very much wanted to be in> > my own house, but the City Mayor would not allow anyone to stay.> >> > There is a saying, "In a ship wreck that occcured, all but one was> > killed, the "lucky" man was happy and he went to the shore and though> > of resting under an old roof, the roof was so old that it fell on him> > and killed him instantaneously", so how does it matter, how you die> >> > Maybe what you have been dreaming will come true. Regarding the woman> > who comes to your house, she could have been someone who has been> > attached to that place so dearly that she visits everyday. I would> > put this in my "to-do-research-list".> >> > Please note that I am not trying to criticize anything. I am not the> > right person with whom you should talk about fear and death, because> > these two words mean nothing to me, I am neither scared of death nor> > have any kind of fear in heart> >> > Regards> > bhagavathi> >> > <%40>,> > "Bhaskar"> > rajiventerprises@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Bhagwathiji,> > >> > > do you mean to suggest, that this is a pointer for a return of> > Tsunami ?> > > If so, then where would it happen, and when ? I stay just 1/2 a> > > kilometre from the sea, so if you tell me, i would be saved . I> > have> > > already seen the whole of Bombay drowning in water, in a vision,> > long> > > back, and since last 2 weeks, I have a women , old women, with long> > > hair, who visits the kitchen in my house, after midnight and fills> > > water. She comes from the ether, and vanishes in the ether. This is> > not> > > a vision, but reality. She does not harm anyone. No one has the> > guts to> > > confront her. And I would probably faint if I see her. What would> > this> > > mean ?> > >> > > regards,> > >> > > Bhaskar.> > >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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