Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear friends, though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would add to our knowledge base too. Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, nativity,mundane and medical. Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start some discussion on the Header here. I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to the member, but in part, because may be the approaches taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is not seen. Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? Please let us have your valued comments ? regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hi Bhaskarji As far as the Vedic way my Grandfather Shri Laxman Tendulkar taught me, a Kolhapur native, clearly spelt out that Veda Adharavana outlines that the bad period for a person, would be influenced by Shani, only in its own Dasa period. (not even Bhukthi or Antara of other Dasa's). He used to tell me that Sadhesathi is the money making trick of modern day astrologers, forcing yatras, away from home etc. Just a global umbrella is preached by them on Shani moving into a set of people (Tithi). The split is in the form of 19 years of Shani Dasa, divided as 0.75, 2.5, 2.5, 7.5, 2.5, 2.5 and 0.75 years. The 3rd state is the bad part, swings your life out. Let me put a calculation and status. Period Status Days 0.75 Good 274 2.5 Good 913 2.5 Bad 913 7.5 Good 2738 2.5 V.Good 913 2.5 V.Good 913 0.75 Good 274 I have discussed the above, with a good friend of mine, and he seems to be getting good results. Personally, I was too young during that period, suffering from dyslexia itseems, studying the KG 1 year extra. Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh (I was a member of your other group, and signed out, once you stopped postings!) , " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on > basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an > exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, > in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, > the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can > discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may > give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us > with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would > add to our knowledge base too. > > Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to > take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, > nativity,mundane and medical. > > Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start > some discussion on the Header here. > > I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid > point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but > also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give > certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life > the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to > Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to > the member, but in part, because may be the approaches > taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is > not seen. > > Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, > about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. > > Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani > sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani > Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT > GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? > > in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? > > Please let us have your valued comments ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear Bhaskar ji and all learnered members, I appreciate your thoughts on discussing various 'basics'. I wish to take a serious involment on this discussion. please accept me into your mission on this segment. I have worked on some details on Sade Sathi timings, which I would love to post in this group. Regards to all A.V.Pathi, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Friday, July 25, 2008 5:37:45 AM Shani Sadesathi Dear friends, though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would add to our knowledge base too. Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, nativity,mundane and medical. Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start some discussion on the Header here. I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to the member, but in part, because may be the approaches taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is not seen. Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? Please let us have your valued comments ? regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 sade saathi wont give bad effects throughout the 7 and half years. as soon sani enters the 12th house it shows its presence and effects financially. as he is in vyaya lot of money has to be spent for various purposes and and loans taken will have to be attended and may lead to court too. pressure will be high during the last 11 months of 12 th and after reaching into rasi he sometimes give some benefits and promotions in the job. but sometimes he shows his presence.agins he shows his pressure during the last 11 months of rasi and once he moves into the 2 nd house he gradually increases his pressure and one has to suffer till the last day and one day one feels like committing suicide. but there is one calculation you can take. if you know tarbalam you can know how bad the effects of sani.we have the effects of stars janma tara to parama mithra thara. if sani happens to on 2nd 4th 6th 8 th and 9th stra the effect will be minimum. if he is on 1st 3rd 5th and 7th trhe effects will be maximum.now mkha peple will be having maximum efeect and from 29th onwars sani moves to pubba. so pubba is 2nd for makha. he gives some relief. yes sani is bad for everybody for 22 and half years. > - > " venkatachala pathi " <pathiav > > Re: Shani Sadesathi > Fri, 25 Jul 2008 06:02:21 -0700 (PDT) > > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and all learnered members, > > I appreciate your thoughts on discussing various 'basics'. I wish > to take a serious involment on this discussion. please accept me > into your mission on this segment. I have worked on some details > on Sade Sathi timings, which I would love to post in this group. > Regards to all > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > > Friday, July 25, 2008 5:37:45 AM > Shani Sadesathi > > > Dear friends, > though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on > basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions > on an exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and > efforts, in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be > met each day, the main being for most of us- to mantain our > livelihoods, yet we can discuss with small pockets of subjects > taken for discussion which may give s views of all learned people > from this forum, and also enrich us with their learning and > experience which they share, which in turn would add to our > knowledge base too. > Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued > input to take one planet and check its weight on all levels > concerned, nativity,mundane and medical. > Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to > start some discussion on the Header here. > I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a > valid point, and the member says that astrology is not completely > logic but also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna > should give certain effects as per the Logistics given in the > texts, ut in real life the native may have venusian effects on the > persona and nout related to Jupiter. On this point I shall come > later, as I do not fully agree to the member, but in part, because > may be the approaches taken in for judgement may > not be complete, due to which the logic is not seen. > Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind > chart, about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot > comment. > Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does > Shani sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and > does Shani Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives > Life, DOES IT GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE > NATIVE ? > in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? > Please let us have your valued comments ? > regards, > Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Respected Pathiji, I think atleast I am eagerly awaiting to read your details on sade sathi, so please post it to the groups. I am more of a practical person, from my observation 1. If saturn is well placed in the chart, the native has minimum sufferings only compared to a weak and debilitated saturn 2. If the natal chart is very strong, then the sufferings is minimum 3. If the running dasa during sadesati years is excellent, then the sufferings are negligible I have seen people with positive points on all the 3 above, have not faced any problems during sade sati years (but of course not a common combination in the chart) Regards, bhagavathi , venkatachala pathi <pathiav wrote: > > > > Dear Bhaskar ji and all learnered members, > > I appreciate your thoughts on discussing various 'basics'. I wish to take a serious involment on this discussion. please accept me into your mission on this segment. I have worked on some details on Sade Sathi timings, which I would love to post in this group. > Regards to all > > > A.V.Pathi, > > > > > > Bhaskar <rajiventerprises > > Friday, July 25, 2008 5:37:45 AM > Shani Sadesathi > > > Dear friends, > though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would add to our knowledge base too. > Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, nativity,mundane and medical. > Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start some discussion on the Header here. > I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to the member, but in part, because may be the approaches taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is not seen. > Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. > Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? > in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? > Please let us have your valued comments ? > regards, > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Shri Tendulkarji, Namaste, Can you please cite the reference in the Veda Atharnava? As regards Shani's effects, if I remember correctly, there is a story in which it is said that Lord Shiva wanted to escape Shani's effects and retired to a secret cave to meditate. At the end of the Shani's period he (the Lord) came out of the cave only to meet an apologetic Shani. Shani asked for forgiveness as he (Shani) kept Lord Shiva away from mother Parvati for a prolonged period. Regards, sunil Kumar Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Ramesh Tendulkar <ram_t_1968 wrote: Ramesh Tendulkar <ram_t_1968 Re: Shani Sadesathi Friday, July 25, 2008, 5:06 AM Hi Bhaskarji As far as the Vedic way my Grandfather Shri Laxman Tendulkar taught me, a Kolhapur native, clearly spelt out that Veda Adharavana outlines that the bad period for a person, would be influenced by Shani, only in its own Dasa period. (not even Bhukthi or Antara of other Dasa's). He used to tell me that Sadhesathi is the money making trick of modern day astrologers, forcing yatras, away from home etc. Just a global umbrella is preached by them on Shani moving into a set of people (Tithi). The split is in the form of 19 years of Shani Dasa, divided as 0.75, 2.5, 2.5, 7.5, 2.5, 2.5 and 0.75 years. The 3rd state is the bad part, swings your life out. Let me put a calculation and status. Period Status Days 0.75 Good 274 2.5 Good 913 2.5 Bad 913 7.5 Good 2738 2.5 V.Good 913 2.5 V.Good 913 0.75 Good 274 I have discussed the above, with a good friend of mine, and he seems to be getting good results. Personally, I was too young during that period, suffering from dyslexia itseems, studying the KG 1 year extra. Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh (I was a member of your other group, and signed out, once you stopped postings!) ancient_indian_ astrology, " Bhaskar " <rajiventerprises@ ...> wrote: > > > Dear friends, > > though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on > basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an > exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, > in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, > the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can > discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may > give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us > with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would > add to our knowledge base too. > > Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to > take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, > nativity,mundane and medical. > > Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start > some discussion on the Header here. > > I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid > point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but > also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give > certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life > the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to > Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to > the member, but in part, because may be the approaches > taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is > not seen. > > Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, > about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. > > Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani > sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani > Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT > GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? > > in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? > > Please let us have your valued comments ? > > regards, > > Bhaskar. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hare Rama Krishna dear sunil Bhattachrya ji and bhagavathi ji I read some time back an article by sri K N Rao ji that most of the Prime minister of india become Prime ministers during sade sathi .I think he even mentioned 13 nos ,it was some old article . Later i find if birth dates ( not full data ) can b blvd smt .sonia gandhi and sri Manmohan singh both come to more prominence during sade sati ,one as chair person of UPA and other as PM of the country . so i think general strnght of the chart decides the out come ,sadesati may b showing tensions and more responsibilities,so we hav to see chart as whole .and if any body has passed sade sati and got good or bad results can post their details then we can see it tru practical exmples . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear Sirs, Sometime back I replied to a question in a different group, related to " Saturn and Moon " , All must be familiar with the passing of Saturn in the Moon star of the person could cause what we all say as 'Sade Sati', the Seven and half years of infliction to the person born (When Saturn enters the 12th house, then enter into the house of posited Moon and then the next house to the position of Moon - each approximately 2 and half years) in the Birth star zone. I give below the said article as my intorduction to this effect which is termed as " Punarphoo Dosha " coused due to the relationship of Saturn and Moon: Q: What is ‘Punarpoo Dhosha’ , and how it is detected in a horoscope? A: Whenever Saturn has got any connection , what so ever, with the Moon, there will be some obstacle or impediment, not only during negotiation, but also at the time of fixation and / or at the time of celebration of the marriage. The connection so described as ‘Punrpoo” Dhosha should cause delay and also indicate separation after marriage in many cases. In other words, one of the partners with this dhosha may not be satisfied with the selected partner, and could seek a better partner in the course of the related Desa period. Or, unrecognized marital relationship could develop. It is also possible that this Dhosha can cause disturbances for one reason or other, however flimsy could be, to upset the programmed marriage, even if this dhosha is present in one of the partners in marriage. Some of pointers to know this dhosha: 1. When Saturn occupies the 5th house from Lagna, it will obliviously aspect the 11th, 7th and 3rd houses from its position. If that house, so aspect by Saturn, to be occupied or owned by The Moon, or the Moon is in that 5th house with Saturn, then ‘Punarpoo Dhosha is said to occur. 2. Whenever Saturn happens to be the ‘significator’ of a particular designated matter concerning the house in consideration (not necessarily for marriage, while it could be education, employment, hospitalization etc), it will not deny the event, but will cause delay for disappointing results. 3. If Saturn is connected with houses 2, 7 and 11 by occupying the house, or owning it or situated in the star of the planet posited in any of these houses, it is certain to cause delay in any fixation of marriage, While it will not deny marital happiness for the person. 4. If Saturn has no connection with houses 2,7, and 11, yet throws its aspect, it will lead not only delay in marriage, but also a positive disappointment in the marital life. (Another author gives in addition following interpretations) 5. Saturn in the houses 1,3,5,7 and 10 counted from Lagna delays the time of fixation of marriage and also celebration of marriage in confusion. 6. Difficulty and delay will be present if Saturn is connected to The Moon under any of the astrological rules. This will give a broad spectrum of the cause of many 'delays' when Moon and Saturn are related. I also worked for 3 selected periods of Saturn (retrogradetion) periods. This points out that Saturn is (Retragraded in a year or so) for 138days. I am getting into more details on this and many of you could help me in deciding this fixed period of (Retrogarading) Saturn and this occurs for 7 times in the Sade Sati period. Retrograding periods of Saturn All details given below are centered at the Greenwich Longitude 0.03333° East and Latitude 51.4667° North and Time : Midday Noon. Ayanamsa are as in Lahari Ephemeris for respective periods.Year & Month Hrs & Pada House ============================================================== 1981 18.1. 17h29’36” Hasta 2 Virgo 23°35’32” Sunday Rt. Starts 16°11’42” \ (138 days) (166°11’42”) 05.6. 03h43’20” U.Phal 4 9°24”09 " 23°35’51” Thursday Rt. Ends --\ --------------------------- 1982 31.1. 05h04’22” Chittra 2 Virgo 23°36’24” Saturday Rt. Starts 28°38’41” (138 days) (178°38’41”) 18.6. 12h11’19” Hasta 4 Virgo 23°36’43” Friday Rt. Ends 21°53’24”-----\ --- 1983 12.2. 12h21’28” Swati 2 Libra 23°37’16” Saturday Rt. Starts 10°49’12” (138 days) (190°49’12”) 1.7. 13°18’50” Chitra 4 Libra 23°37’35” Friday Rt. Ends =============================================================== I will come back to you on 'the effects of Sade Sati' shortly. Date Time Star Zodiac Ayanamsa Day Remarks. A.V.Pathi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear Sunil Nairji, I think if the Saturn is debilitated then the Sadesati may affect the mental peace. Now we have to see if the Saturn was debilitated in those horoscopes and if debilitated then did or did not they lose their peace of mind despite their success? Regards, Sunil K. Bhattacharjya --- On Fri, 7/25/08, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala Re: Shani Sadesathi Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:30 A Hare Rama Krishna dear sunil Bhattachrya ji and bhagavathi ji I read some time back an article by sri K N Rao ji that most of the Prime minister of india become Prime ministers during sade sathi .I think he even mentioned 13 nos ,it was some old article . Later i find if birth dates ( not full data ) can b blvd smt .sonia gandhi and sri Manmohan singh both come to more prominence during sade sati ,one as chair person of UPA and other as PM of the country . so i think general strnght of the chart decides the out come ,sadesati may b showing tensions and more responsibilities, so we hav to see chart as whole .and if any body has passed sade sati and got good or bad results can post their details then we can see it tru practical exmples . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear sunil bhattacharya ji Need not be ,as sani is karmadhipathi in natural chart and some case he is giving responsibilities ( more power and position too in sade sathi ) and hence mind ( moon ) get tensed .The rest of the devastation depends on various layers of transit itself ,it need b calculated frm moon ,can b frm various karakas ,various points ,ashta varga ,the houses involved and then lastly the dasa Lords power to giv good or bad . for exmple is our PM and sonia ji itself they acheive big but i think every day was some agni pareeksha ( good or bad let them decide ) . Even famous Srilankan cricketer sri sanath jayasuriya has sani in deb and moon in sag ,so he had sade sathi may b 18 to 15 yrs b4 ( roughly ) and diayya in 2003 to 2005 . which were the bad perds for him ,as i am not a cricket regular watcher others can judge . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Sunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote:>> Dear Sunil Nairji,> > I think if the Saturn is debilitated then the Sadesati may affect the mental peace. Now we have to see if the Saturn was debilitated in those horoscopes and if debilitated then did or did not they lose their peace of mind despite their success?> > Regards,> > Sunil K. Bhattacharjya> > > > --- On Fri, 7/25/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> sunil nair astro_tellerkerala Re: Shani Sadesathi> > Friday, July 25, 2008, 10:30 A> > Hare Rama Krishna> dear sunil Bhattachrya ji and bhagavathi ji> > I read some time back an article by sri K N Rao ji that most of the Prime minister of india become Prime ministers during sade sathi .I think he even mentioned 13 nos ,it was some old article .> > Later i find if birth dates ( not full data ) can b blvd smt .sonia gandhi and sri Manmohan singh both come to more prominence during sade sati ,one as chair person of UPA and other as PM of the country .> so i think general strnght of the chart decides the out come ,sadesati may b showing tensions and more responsibilities, so we hav to see chart as whole .and if any body has passed sade sati and got good or bad results can post their details then we can see it tru practical exmples .> > regrds sunil nair> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Dear All,There has been a general belief that the sadhesaati of Saturn is usually painful and problematic from the mental, physical and financial point of view. The moment people hear about Sadhesati, they get worried and fearful. Sadhesaati can either be considered when Saturn transits within 45 degrees orb of moon, or as most of the people take, 12/1/2 houses from moon. There can be a maximum of 3 cycles of sadhesaati for a person who has seen 70 years. According to classics: It is said: The first cycle of sadhesaati of Saturn is extremely intense and during this period one may experience physical pain. There would be obstacles and hardships of various kinds. There may also be some troubles to parents. In the second cycle, Saturn exerts mediocre influence compared to first cycle. During this period one succeeds through physical struggle and labour. Despite mental unrest, the worldly progress continues. One may suffer separation or loss of parents or other elders in the family. In the third cycle, Saturn is said to inflict extremely harsh results. During this period one may face tremendous physical hardships. There will be illness and even fear of death. It is also said that most of the natives do not live to see their third sade saati. According to a more rational approach, the results of sadhesaati will depend on the following: Saturn has to give results as per its nature – and when it passes over moon the results will have a major impact on the mind of the native – good or bad. Sade saati has also been divided into 3 periods of two and half years as the results will vary in each period. When in 12H from moon it aspects 2H, 5H and 9H. So good or bad results related to these houses are to be expected. Similarly we can see for transit over moon and in 2H from moon. In any case life is a mixed bag, and in seven and a half years, many other factors also play their roles. How bad or good is this period may depend on the following factors: Lordship of Saturn and moon, their placement in a chart, relationship, panchadha maitri, etc. e.g., sade saati is said to be good for venusian signs where Saturn is a yogkarak, and specially in libra where noon is the 10L. But here again, the results should be moderated depending upon the position of Saturn and moon.Dasha in operationOther relative transit positions during the period. Ashtakvarga score in houses affected by sade saati. Houses with more than 30 benefic bindus may not feel the brunt of Saturn. We should read the results with an open mind. All planets are here to give us results as per our poorv karmas which flow throughout our lives. We are all aware that some people suffer throughout their lives and some have lives of peace and contentment. This is irrespective of sadhesaati. A friend of one is a foe of another. We should not single out Saturn for bad results only. I have sometimes wondered, when moon is manas and so sensitive, and our classics have told us to check transits from moon: Why don't we see a four and half years of rahu hovering over moon as disastrous? Why don't we see a 3 year cycle of Jupiter over moon as a matter of joy and expansion?And what about other planets passing over moon?RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 dear bhaskar, I am running seven and half years saturn for the IIIrd time. My nakshtara is Uttaraphalguni 2ndpada and rasi is virgo. I am also running saturn maha dasa from the year 2002. for the last one year I do have health related problems. Otherwise saturn mahadasa has been favourable. I am aged 60yrs so health related problems are bound to show up though not serious in my case. i hope this information will be of some use. good wishes, k.gopu --- On Fri, 7/25/08, Bhaskar <rajiventerprises wrote: Bhaskar <rajiventerprises Shani Sadesathi Friday, July 25, 2008, 3:07 PM Dear friends, though the response has been less to my call for the discussion on basics, which dissuades one from going into lengthy discussions on an exhuastive basis, as this requires time for one to devote and efforts, in this busy world of ours where many targets have to be met each day, the main being for most of us- to mantain our livelihoods, yet we can discuss with small pockets of subjects taken for discussion which may give s views of all learned people from this forum, and also enrich us with their learning and experience which they share, which in turn would add to our knowledge base too. Shri Kursija ji who is a learned person has also given a valued input to take one planet and check its weight on all levels concerned, nativity,mundane and medical. Shri Sunilji also has given some inputs due to which I wish to start some discussion on the Header here. I also received a mail privately from a member which has got a valid point, and the member says that astrology is not completely logic but also intuition. A eg.was put forth that Jupiter in Lagna should give certain effects as per the Logistics given in the texts, ut in real life the native may have venusian effects on the persona and nout related to Jupiter. On this point I shall come later, as I do not fully agree to the member, but in part, because may be the approaches taken in for judgement may not be complete, due to which the logic is not seen. Sreenadhji or sreeramji one of them mentioned about some Blind chart, about which I am not aware what he was talking, so cannot comment. Presently I wish to ask the learned members, how many times does Shani sadesathi come in a persons Life of app.70 years age. and does Shani Sadetahi if it is manifested for 3 times in the natives Life, DOES IT GIVE 22 1/2 YEARS OF TROUBLED LIFE AND MISERY TO THE NATIVE ? in other words, Does Shani Sadesathi is fully bad for 7 1/2 years ? Please let us have your valued comments ? regards, Bhaskar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 SirI mentioned about what my Grandfather told. I will get hold of the verse, should be lying in our house at Calcutta. As my father is also no more, after my grandpa passed away, the scriptures etc, are kept in trunks under lock and key. Other members can enlighten on this topic.But the fact is fact, the Sadhe Sathi, gets nullified, if the Shani is present in your 8th house, in its own in a chart.In the modern day world, may be based on their own chart, people time to go abroad and stay for longer periods.RegardsRamesh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Dear Neelamji, The other planets transit over moon also affect the individual. But the transit of Saturn and phala theron is played out in slow motion. It is very clear in its intention to give a particular phala and plays it out a period of time. This slow unrevealing over a longe time period is what unnerves the person in questionand is therefore considered by all as a period of trial.. Saturn is the time keeper as most of you have pointed out earlier and man does not know how to tolerate the "payback time" for his Karma -- most not knowing what their karma is ! It is like watching a horror movie where the victim is a nervous wreck most of the time anticipating the dreadfull tormentor. The so called action movies may have more blood and gore , destruction but we are scared more by the anticipation. Thanks & Regards. Chiranjiv Mehta--- On Sat, 26/7/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07Re: Re: Shani Sadesathi Date: Saturday, 26 July, 2008, 12:06 AM Dear All,There has been a general belief that the sadhesaati of Saturn is usually painful and problematic from the mental, physical and financial point of view. The moment people hear about Sadhesati, they get worried and fearful. Sadhesaati can either be considered when Saturn transits within 45 degrees orb of moon, or as most of the people take, 12/1/2 houses from moon. There can be a maximum of 3 cycles of sadhesaati for a person who has seen 70 years. According to classics: It is said: The first cycle of sadhesaati of Saturn is extremely intense and during this period one may experience physical pain. There would be obstacles and hardships of various kinds. There may also be some troubles to parents. In the second cycle, Saturn exerts mediocre influence compared to first cycle. During this period one succeeds through physical struggle and labour. Despite mental unrest, the worldly progress continues. One may suffer separation or loss of parents or other elders in the family. In the third cycle, Saturn is said to inflict extremely harsh results. During this period one may face tremendous physical hardships. There will be illness and even fear of death. It is also said that most of the natives do not live to see their third sade saati. According to a more rational approach, the results of sadhesaati will depend on the following: Saturn has to give results as per its nature – and when it passes over moon the results will have a major impact on the mind of the native – good or bad. Sade saati has also been divided into 3 periods of two and half years as the results will vary in each period. When in 12H from moon it aspects 2H, 5H and 9H. So good or bad results related to these houses are to be expected. Similarly we can see for transit over moon and in 2H from moon. In any case life is a mixed bag, and in seven and a half years, many other factors also play their roles. How bad or good is this period may depend on the following factors: Lordship of Saturn and moon, their placement in a chart, relationship, panchadha maitri, etc. e.g., sade saati is said to be good for venusian signs where Saturn is a yogkarak, and specially in libra where noon is the 10L. But here again, the results should be moderated depending upon the position of Saturn and moon. Dasha in operation Other relative transit positions during the period. Ashtakvarga score in houses affected by sade saati. Houses with more than 30 benefic bindus may not feel the brunt of Saturn. We should read the results with an open mind. All planets are here to give us results as per our poorv karmas which flow throughout our lives. We are all aware that some people suffer throughout their lives and some have lives of peace and contentment. This is irrespective of sadhesaati. A friend of one is a foe of another. We should not single out Saturn for bad results only. I have sometimes wondered, when moon is manas and so sensitive, and our classics have told us to check transits from moon: Why don't we see a four and half years of rahu hovering over moon as disastrous? Why don't we see a 3 year cycle of Jupiter over moon as a matter of joy and expansion? And what about other planets passing over moon?RegardsNeelam Did you know? You can CHAT without downloading messenger. Click here Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 Respected Sunil Ji My sade sathi was not good 23 apr 1955 8.04am bombay-india 1998 to 1999 worst period of my life. lost huge amount of money in casinos, had a accident broke my right knee and left hand wrist was on bed for 71 days, had 3 surgeries all during sade sathi. Though saturn is my yogakarak planet (taraus asc) exalted-retro but sitting in 6th. that time i was running rahu maha dasha (rahu in 8th) - shani antar (shani in 6th) and sade sathi. How can yogakarak and exalted shani getting 5th aspect from natural benefic jupiter can give so bad effect. Please explain. Regards Adi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 27, 2008 Report Share Posted July 27, 2008 Dear Mr Naidu Ji and Mr Bhaskar Ji,and others. Poonarpoo Dhosha is related to natal chart as Sri Bhaska ji had said , and Sade Sathi is related to " Gochara'. Sade Sati is not classified as Dosha, as any listed 'Dhosha' is related to Natal chart only. I wish to give little explanation to Sade Sathi. We have Natal Chart, Navamsa and Bhava Chart for any person. The Moon is in a Nakashatra ( in a Pada) in the Natal chart. In the present transit of planets, when the Saturn moves, in the 12th house to the position of Natal chart Moon, the Sade sathi is said to start to effects. What are the related identities to 'grade' the effect of Sade Sathi. One has to check the star zones of the 12th house, then the star zones of the Natal Birth Chart and the nd house to that, to cover the approximately 7 and half years period. In other words, 27 Padas of 6 and 3/4 star zones will be the transit path of Saturn. First, will Saturn pass through the Star Zones belong to Saturn. Saturn Star Zones are (Ruled by Saturn) Pushya, Anuradha, Uthirabadrapada. The rule is sign is not as important as star zones. If Saturn passed through these 'own' Star zones he will effect 50% of qualified 'effects' of marked results. Then check the period of Saturn is in 'effect' for the concerned Natal chart, at the period of transit. If it is not so, you move to the item next, after this next para. Find that the Natal is in the (i) Saturn Desa, (ii) Bukti (in Saturn Desa or in any other main Desa)or (iii) Anthara, (in Saturn Desa/Bukti or in any other main desa and/ or Bukti) to assess the passing effect of Saturn. The periods with dates are to be taken down carefully. The next is to find where Saturn in posited in the natal chart from (1) Lagna (2) Chandra (3) the Sun, the allocated functions for these respective houses, and their astrological merits. That is, if it is in the second house any of these above (1), (2), and (3) it obviously relates to family etc., which as astrology student one would know. It is be inferred the related functions will be effected. Along with these, the following will also to be followed if Saturn is not moving in that period in the above notified stars zone of Saturn. Find the house in Natal chart where Saturn is positioned as well as the connected star Zone. Find the present transit is in effect related to that Star Zone and its Lord. Find the relationship of the Lord of that star zone in the Natal Birth chart with that of Saturn, as well as position of the planets in consideration and the house they occupy as well as the Desa etc in effect and the relationship of the Desa lord with these Planets. List the functions related to them considering the house occupied, Drushti and the effect of Saturn in relation to positions. The summery will give the strength of impact of Saturn during Saturn transit. All these 'operations' must be supported under each category of listing in relation to the position of Saturn in Navamsa. Now you can arrive at the possible effective periods related to Saturn transit in a Star Zone. T These working has to be done for each star zone listed above for the period of transit of Saturn for all 6 and 3/4 Star Zones in relation to the movement of Saturn in the entire period of 7 and half years. Then, we can arrive to comment on the consummate effect of Sade Sati. All should understand Saturn is a 'Ali Graha' and in character, Saturn will not - not- effect Bad results unless these combinations as above are not conducive to contribute favorable results. Saturn will pass on very favorable results to those who have a period while in its transit, it should - should give you the best results, sometimes it can be for all seven and half years of transit in the house posited by the Moon in the Natal chart. During the period of the entire Sade sati, the effects of Bad, if any to be caused, will be reduced, if that person, it is believed, has to reverently recite the Sanishwara Gayathri regularly for at least 108 times a day, no matter what you do, where you are, neat, tidy, unclean or any status. Blessings. A.V.Pathi, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Please try on my chart. April 24, 1968, 10.01AM, Calcutta. (Medical College Hospital) Mention the Shani Sadesathi periods, to give my inputs. Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh =============================MANAGEMENT =============== dear ramesh ji pls here no one is claiming big guru or neither we runs a one man show ,so pls say ur exprnce and let grp analayse ,they r also like u learning or discussing or sharing knowledge .The aim of grp is not to show our skills but discuss all aspects in astrology and improve ourself .so it depends on ur activ particpation than this attitude . Also think that many has diffrnt responsible profession and they need their attention there . regrds Grp management team =============================================================== Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear sunil Bhattacharyaji, Thank you for your mail. As far as I could remember nothing special in the year 1997 Except my shashti apta poorthy celebaratio(60 th birthday). S.SivaramanSunil Bhattacharjya <sunil_bhattacharjya wrote: Dear Sivaramanji,I find that 1997 was a another turning point in your life for the better. Probably you moved to a new and better house, took up a new and satisfying vocation and could have become socially more active.Regards,Sunil K. Bhattacharjya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Neelamji, If My perception is right the horoscope reading is to understand What has happened, What is happening, what may happen in one's life cycle. I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding of astrological learning. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Adityaji, Thank you for your mail. I have sent my reply to you separately. S.Sivaraman.aditya7272 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Dear Sivaramanji, // If My perception is right the horoscope reading is to > understand What has happened, What is happening, what may happen in one's life cycle. // This is the most common perception, and perhaps the most wrong one. This perception is the resultant outcome of persons who may be only limited to the fructification of their wants and desires, and whose thought processes does not move beyond this circle. They like to talkk about themselves. Their Life revolves into cuddling of self and narcissism. // I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding of astrological learning. // This is again a very sinsiter type of testing. And more questionabale when a person puts a quiz which revolves only to his " I ". It can be termed a innocent and clean quiz , only when the person putting up the quiz offers to present the analysis of his own astrological knowledge which he has acquired ( If at all ), If he does not have this knowledge, and wishes to test others, then he must be a renowned person in the circle where he is putting up the quiz, or a person who has been known as a achiever in any field or area of activity, for him to be authenticated enough, to test others. When the words are written as such - // I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding // then it means that the whole of the astrologer gentry here in this Group is put on the tip of the sword, and are supposed to prove their knowledge ????? the " I " above takes the upper stand and a superior pedestal, while the astrologers here are spoken of, as just new entrants to this field and some sort of exam would only make them pass the grade. Is it ? When " I" is used, and the Query also is related wholly to " I " then it is understood that the " I" has been removed from the " Our " and the , peiople who are left after this removal of " I " have now to talk abot the " I " and prove themselves. I would not need astrological knowledge to talk about this " I " You cannot be a brahmachari or a sanyaasi in the tue sense when so much " I " is involved. You can only be a early widower or a Samsaari on the path of trying to be a rustic. Best woshes, Bhaskar. , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote:>> Dear Neelamji,> > If My perception is right the horoscope reading is to > understand What has happened, What is happening, what may happen in one's life cycle. I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding of astrological learning.> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote:> Dear Sivaraman ji,> > Life takes us through various courses and we assume different roles at different moments of life. > I hope you're only limiting your query to your present state of affairs.> > Regards> Neelam> > 2008/7/27 sunil nair astro_tellerkerala > > Hare rama krishna > dear siva raman ji > > Thanks for the birth data and subsequesnt small quiz .i hope our grp memebrs will take up this exercise and i will also join with them .> offcource depends on their time and will > thanks and regrds > > sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > , Sivaraman S swathiram37@ wrote:> >> > > Dear Sunilji,> > > > My birth data ;> > > > > > Date of Birth; 3rd February 1937> > > > Time of birth; 01.55 A.M> > > > > > Place of birth; Thirumangalam. Madurai Dt.(9.49 N 79.01 E) > > > > Janana Lagnam Vrichigam> > > > Janma Rasi Thulam> > > > Janma Nakshathram; Swathi > > > > > > I hope this will suffice. A small quiz, What am I ? a) brahmachri b) samsari > > c)widower d) sanyasi> > > > S.Sivaraman> > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > Hare ramakrishna > > dear sivaraman ji > > Thanks for the information ,Pls post ur birth data too for some of us to see the effect tru natal chart .> > > > thanks and regrds > > > > sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > , Sivaraman S swathiram37@ wrote:> > >> > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > > I am 1937 born. My first phase of sadesathi shani was between 4/50 and 10/57 during which period I could complete my Engineering despite the fact that my family's financial condition was very bad. I got my first permanent employ ment. > > > > > > > > > My second phase of sadesath sani was between 4/80 and 10/87 during which period, I could successfully complete marriages of my two sisters and three brothers as this was the task left out my father. But in my work front I have to go throuh very bad period, lots bad names denial of promotions etc> > > > > > > > > Perhaps I may or may not meet my third phase.> > > > > > I would submit that in my case sade sath shani did not make any special harm and knowing my horoscope, every thing have taken place as per planetary position.runnig dasa read in conjunction with saturn's position. It is so with my family members. Therefore I am of opinion that getting panicy about Sadesathi Shani is unwarrented> > > > > > S.Sivaraman.> > > > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > dear shri sunilji,> > > > > > MY dob is 14-6-1948. time :4.45pm,> > > place Mayavaram Longitude 79deg east 40mins> > > latitude 11deg N 6mins. > > > In the raasi chart it is in kataka and in bhava it moves to simha. i dont have any idea as to how my Ist round was probably my late mother use to say that i use to fall sick during childhood. My IInd round started from 1977 sept to oct 1984 it was very bad. i had strained realtionship with my father. Only good thing is I was blessed with two good sons during that period otherwise even financially it was very difficult.> > > anyway thanks for the interest u had evinced.> > > > > > regards,> > > k.gopu> > > > > > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > Re: Shani Sadesathi> > > > > > Saturday, July 26, 2008, 8:37 AM> > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > dear Gopu ji > > > Is ur sani is some where near ur moon sign ,or did u born with sade sati ??other wise sani will take almost 30 yrs for one full rotation and 3rd means always above 60 to 90 yrs ,so that is why 3rd one considered as bad .> > > if u dont mind can u supply this grp or to me prvtly ur Birth datas .> > > regrds sunil nair > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > >> > > > dear bhaskar,> > > > I am running seven and half years saturn for the IIIrd time. My nakshtara is Uttaraphalguni 2ndpada and rasi is virgo. I am also running saturn maha dasa from the year 2002. for the last one year I do have health related problems. Otherwise saturn mahadasa has been favourable. I am aged 60yrs so health related problems are bound to show up though not serious in my case. i hope this information will be of some use.> > > > > > > > good wishes,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 According to my theory of Shani Sadhe Sathi, taught by my Grandpa...April 24, 1968, 10.01AM, Calcutta. Hora Lord is Mars. My dad had been told, by my Grandpa, I will work for govt. one day, which happened. According to KP System, Mars is connected to Ketu & Venus, which signifies the 10th house along with Jupiter - job, so with the influence of my mother (Quota did help me.), I took up the govt. job, and moved out with an insignificant transit of Jupiter from Mars - I have not a single clue or explanation for that! (April 2007). Even though money is there with current change, satisfaction is not there and sense of instability owing to the political climate.The Shani Dasa runs from March 1969 till March 1988. These are the split periods as I posted earlier.10.75March 11, 1969December 9, 1969274 Good22.5December 9, 1969June 9, 1972913 Good32.5June 9, 1972December 8, 1974913 Bad47.5December 8, 1974June 7, 19822738 Good52.5June 7, 1982December 5, 1984913 V.Good62.5December 5, 1984June 6, 1987913 V.Good70.75June 6, 1987March 6, 1988274 GoodIncidents about bad period (3) - Refused to study at the Kindergarten level. changed 2 schools. wasted one year. refusal of admission based on caste in certain schools, it seems. Settled in one school during end of Bad period and continued there till I went to college.Good period (4) There was no self confidence, in terms of the caste and ridicule at school, even though I was the topper. Self realization.V Good period (5) Participated in my interschool debate in 10th. Won prizes. Topped the school. Significant interest towards engineering, dad's field. Ventured into theatre/drama.V Good period (6) Admission to IIT. Reasonable studies. Topped in many subjects. Tried hand and theatre/drama.All along under my mothers influence, I wanted to join the govt. job and take up a coveted position after my degree.Good period (7) One particular day, that I decided to make a change in my career and move into software field during October 1988, on that night, there was a small bit of ash fallen in front of Shirdi Saibaba's picture, in my room. Don't know the astrological significance. Next day, in the campus interview I had a job, with an IT major, but with a 3 years contract. I took it after my PG eventually.Mercury Dasa, has been good in my software career, till Venus Bhukthi, when I moved to the govt. job, as my mother had always wanted. Travelled abroad, and worked for long periods. Pursued my theatre/art dreams part time.Mercury Dasa and Bhukthi, got me a PG degree. Met my would-be wife there at college. Also Mercury connection during, my marriage, kids birth and first house purchase.Cannot pin-point any events in my life, connected to Shani, except for my last career change of starting the biz last April.I never bothered about the traditional method of Shani Sadesathi, which I presume is over (Oct 1992 to April 2000). My star is Poorvabhadra and my Saturn's presence in 11th have nullified losses. Any corrections?I have had a good career in software, moved over to govt. job, married to the person I liked (elder to me). I have not earnt a single rupee more than my wife's earnings since marriage! It will be changing soon.Next Shani Sadesathi is (Oct 2022 to April 2030) leading in my retired life! My kids marriage, grandkids etc. in this period. Hopefully I would stay in one single place.(As I write this, received a call about my mothers Kidney stones and her 3rd operation. She lives with my sister in USA, and understand that she is getting operated on Tuesday evening, between 4 to 7 PM EST. Moon, Venus, Saturn and Rahu which are in my 10th house are transitting the Lagna, connected to birth and danger.). Amma Saranam!RegardsRameshRamesh <ram_t_1968 Sent: Monday, 28 July, 2008 11:39:37 AM Re:Shani Sadesathi Please try on my chart. April 24, 1968, 10.01AM, Calcutta. (Medical College Hospital) Mention the Shani Sadesathi periods, to give my inputs. Amma Saranam! Regards Ramesh Explore your hobbies and interests. Click here to begin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 28, 2008 Report Share Posted July 28, 2008 Respected S.Sivramaji, Pranam Please give your comments on my reading. That will help in my study. I want to study in more detail. Please Do favor. Thanks and Regards Aditya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Adityaji, Thank you for your mail. I am a bachelor leading a simple life spending my time in daily prayers etc from my 21st year. My father died in the year 1976. My mother is still alive in her early ninties. You are right I am more reluctant from worldly life from 1958 onwards. I did not have any problem with my coworkers but I had tough time with my higher ups With regards. S.Sivararmanaditya7272 <aditya7272 wrote: Respected Sivaramanji and all the learned members and Gurujan,Pranam,With the blessings of all Gurujans, I give my try on Sivaramanji's chart. As Sivaramanji seems to be very open minded so daring to go in some other matter of life, to learn more about astrological laws. 1) You might have min two marriages 2) 1st you might have married in the period 60-633) 2nd marriage is indicated in the period 67-70 might be due to loss of 1st wife.4) you might have loss your father in 67-70 or 71-735) you might have loss your mother in 51-52 6) after that your father might have had 2nd marriage. Saturn in 4th indicates two mothers. 7) You might have lost your 2nd wife in 96-98. 8) From 85-89 you became more reluctant from worldly matters. Can say some sort of Vairagya. If my reading is some what nearer to the actual, I will give my explaination. (less posswibility...)But I can say he is a brillient person with very good memory. The nature may be said to be stub born, or having more confidence. Might be having cristal clear thoughts. You might have faced opposition and non coperation from your subordinates in the period 79 to 82 and 91 to 93. Same way non coperation from management in the period 85 to 89. You might have left your job in 98-99.Thanks and regardsAditya , Sivaraman S <swathiram37 wrote:>> Dear Sunilji,> > My birth data ;> > > Date of Birth; 3rd February 1937> > Time of birth; 01.55 A.M> > > Place of birth; Thirumangalam. Madurai Dt.(9.49 N 79.01 E) > > Janana Lagnam Vrichigam> > Janma Rasi Thulam> > Janma Nakshathram; Swathi > > > I hope this will suffice. A small quiz, What am I ? a) brahmachri b) samsari > c)widower d) sanyasi> > S.Sivaraman> > > sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:> > Hare ramakrishna > dear sivaraman ji > Thanks for the information ,Pls post ur birth data too for some of us to see the effect tru natal chart .> > thanks and regrds > > sunil nair > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > , Sivaraman S <swathiram37@> wrote:> >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > I am 1937 born. My first phase of sadesathi shani was between 4/50 and 10/57 during which period I could complete my Engineering despite the fact that my family's financial condition was very bad. I got my first permanent employ ment. > > > > > > My second phase of sadesath sani was between 4/80 and 10/87 during which period, I could successfully complete marriages of my two sisters and three brothers as this was the task left out my father. But in my work front I have to go throuh very bad period, lots bad names denial of promotions etc> > > > > > Perhaps I may or may not meet my third phase.> > > > I would submit that in my case sade sath shani did not make any special harm and knowing my horoscope, every thing have taken place as per planetary position.runnig dasa read in conjunction with saturn's position. It is so with my family members. Therefore I am of opinion that getting panicy about Sadesathi Shani is unwarrented> > > > S.Sivaraman.> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > > > > dear shri sunilji,> > > > MY dob is 14-6-1948. time :4.45pm,> > place Mayavaram Longitude 79deg east 40mins> > latitude 11deg N 6mins. > > In the raasi chart it is in kataka and in bhava it moves to simha. i dont have any idea as to how my Ist round was probably my late mother use to say that i use to fall sick during childhood. My IInd round started from 1977 sept to oct 1984 it was very bad. i had strained realtionship with my father. Only good thing is I was blessed with two good sons during that period otherwise even financially it was very difficult.> > anyway thanks for the interest u had evinced.> > > > regards,> > k.gopu> > > > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > Re: Shani Sadesathi> > > > Saturday, July 26, 2008, 8:37 AM> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > dear Gopu ji > > Is ur sani is some where near ur moon sign ,or did u born with sade sati ??other wise sani will take almost 30 yrs for one full rotation and 3rd means always above 60 to 90 yrs ,so that is why 3rd one considered as bad .> > if u dont mind can u supply this grp or to me prvtly ur Birth datas .> > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > >> > > dear bhaskar,> > > I am running seven and half years saturn for the IIIrd time. My nakshtara is Uttaraphalguni 2ndpada and rasi is virgo. I am also running saturn maha dasa from the year 2002. for the last one year I do have health related problems. Otherwise saturn mahadasa has been favourable. I am aged 60yrs so health related problems are bound to show up though not serious in my case. i hope this information will be of some use.> > > > > > good wishes,> > > k.gopu> > >> >> > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > Share files, take polls, and make new friends - all under one roof. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 29, 2008 Report Share Posted July 29, 2008 Dear Bhaskerji. Kindly see msg nos. 12057,58,61 & 68. You will notice that intention of this writer is not sinster. It is E nglish that can be twisted and be made to mean any way. This writer does not have any motive or intention as mentioned in your maikl. If it has hurt any one's sentiment the writer seek their pardon. Bhasker means SUN. Nobody can see it with simple EYE(I). This humble writer is abrahmachari and has taken mundhra upadesam from Kanchi Maha Periyava and leading a simple life without doning safron cloth. It is language problem that has projected I. & our. Of course now the writer has leanred a lesson why such inerest and this time can also be spent in nama smaranai. Thank you for your mail and observation. God bless you S.Sivaraman , "Bhaskar" <rajiventerprises wrote:>> > Dear Sivaramanji,> > // If My perception is right the horoscope reading is to> > understand What has happened, What is happening, what may happen in> one's life cycle. //> > This is the most common perception, and perhaps the most wrong one. > This perception is the resultant outcome of persons who may be only> limited to the fructification of their wants and desires, and whose> thought processes does not move beyond this circle. They like to talkk> about themselves. Their Life revolves into cuddling of self and> narcissism.> > // I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding of> astrological learning. //> > This is again a very sinsiter type of testing. And more questionabale> when a person puts a quiz which revolves only to his " I ". It can be> termed a innocent and clean quiz , only when the person putting up the> quiz offers to present the analysis of his own astrological knowledge> which he has acquired ( If at all ),> > If he does not have this knowledge, and wishes to test others, then he> must be a renowned person in the circle where he is putting up the quiz,> or a person who has been known as a achiever in any field or area of> activity, for him to be authenticated enough, to test others.> > When the words are written as such -> > // I put that quiz only as test to check our understanding //> > then it means that the whole of the astrologer gentry here in this Group> is put on the tip of the sword, and are supposed to prove their> knowledge ?????> > the " I " above takes the upper stand and a superior pedestal, while the> astrologers here are spoken of, as just new entrants to this field and> some sort of exam would only make them pass the grade. Is it ? When "> I" is used, and the Query also is related wholly to " I " then it is> understood that the " I" has been removed from the " Our " and> the , peiople who are left after this removal of " I " have now to talk> abot the " I " and prove themselves.> > I would not need astrological knowledge to talk about this " I "> > You cannot be a brahmachari or a sanyaasi in the tue sense when so much> " I " is involved.> > You can only be a early widower or a Samsaari on the path of trying to> be a rustic.> > Best woshes,> > Bhaskar.> > > > , Sivaraman S> swathiram37@ wrote:> >> > Dear Neelamji,> >> > If My perception is right the horoscope reading is to> > understand What has happened, What is happening, what may happen in> one's life cycle. I put that quiz only as test to check our> understanding of astrological learning.> >> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > Dear Sivaraman ji,> >> > Life takes us through various courses and we assume different roles at> different moments of life.> > I hope you're only limiting your query to your present state of> affairs.> >> > Regards> > Neelam> >> > 2008/7/27 sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> >> >> > Hare rama krishna> > dear siva raman ji> >> > Thanks for the birth data and subsequesnt small quiz .i hope our grp> memebrs will take up this exercise and i will also join with them .> > offcource depends on their time and will> > thanks and regrds> >> > sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> >> >> > , Sivaraman S> swathiram37@ wrote:> > >> >> > > Dear Sunilji,> > >> > > My birth data ;> > >> > >> > > Date of Birth; 3rd February 1937> > >> > > Time of birth; 01.55 A.M> > >> > >> > > Place of birth; Thirumangalam. Madurai Dt.(9.49 N 79.01 E)> > >> > > Janana Lagnam Vrichigam> > >> > > Janma Rasi Thulam> > >> > > Janma Nakshathram; Swathi> > >> > >> > > I hope this will suffice. A small quiz, What am I ? a) brahmachri b)> samsari> > > c)widower d) sanyasi> > >> > > S.Sivaraman> > >> > >> >> >> > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna> > > dear sivaraman ji> > > Thanks for the information ,Pls post ur birth data too for some of> us to see the effect tru natal chart .> > >> > > thanks and regrds> > >> > > sunil nair> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > > , Sivaraman S> swathiram37@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > >> > > > I am 1937 born. My first phase of sadesathi shani was between 4/50> and 10/57 during which period I could complete my Engineering despite> the fact that my family's financial condition was very bad. I got my> first permanent employ ment.> > > >> > > >> > > > My second phase of sadesath sani was between 4/80 and 10/87 during> which period, I could successfully complete marriages of my two sisters> and three brothers as this was the task left out my father. But in my> work front I have to go throuh very bad period, lots bad names denial of> promotions etc> > > >> > > >> > > > Perhaps I may or may not meet my third phase.> > > >> > > > I would submit that in my case sade sath shani did not make any> special harm and knowing my horoscope, every thing have taken place as> per planetary position.runnig dasa read in conjunction with saturn's> position. It is so with my family members. Therefore I am of opinion> that getting panicy about Sadesathi Shani is unwarrented> > > >> > > > S.Sivaraman.> > > >> > > > K Gopu kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > dear shri sunilji,> > > >> > > > MY dob is 14-6-1948. time :4.45pm,> > > > place Mayavaram Longitude 79deg east 40mins> > > > latitude 11deg N 6mins.> > > > In the raasi chart it is in kataka and in bhava it moves to simha.> i dont have any idea as to how my Ist round was probably my late mother> use to say that i use to fall sick during childhood. My IInd round> started from 1977 sept to oct 1984 it was very bad. i had strained> realtionship with my father. Only good thing is I was blessed with two> good sons during that period otherwise even financially it was very> difficult.> > > > anyway thanks for the interest u had evinced.> > > >> > > > regards,> > > > k.gopu> > > >> > > > --- On Sat, 7/26/08, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > >> > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@> > > > Re: Shani Sadesathi> > > > > > > > Saturday, July 26, 2008, 8:37 AM> > > >> > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Gopu ji> > > > Is ur sani is some where near ur moon sign ,or did u born with> sade sati ??other wise sani will take almost 30 yrs for one full> rotation and 3rd means always above 60 to 90 yrs ,so that is why 3rd one> considered as bad .> > > > if u dont mind can u supply this grp or to me prvtly ur Birth> datas .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > >> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology, K Gopu> kgopu_24@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear bhaskar,> > > > > I am running seven and half years saturn for the IIIrd time. My> nakshtara is Uttaraphalguni 2ndpada and rasi is virgo. I am also running> saturn maha dasa from the year 2002. for the last one year I do have> health related problems. Otherwise saturn mahadasa has been favourable.> I am aged 60yrs so health related problems are bound to show up though> not serious in my case. i hope this information will be of some use.> > > > >> > > > > good wishes,> > > > > k.gopu> > > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Click> here.> > >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Unlimited freedom, unlimited storage. Get it now> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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