Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 planets stay in the same house for long a lagna runs for nearly 2 hours many many lakhs born in same conditions for eg gajakesari yoga moon movesfast and comes in an angle to jupiter very frequently can we imagine all the real effects for all born same between 2 hours in same lagnain world there are few millioners and vips most most below average line however along with vips many many born almost and exact conditionsi have twins with varied life styles could not find convincing explanations if given two astrologers without informing the background we could laugh at their resultsthere is yogas then intpretations why it is not working but could not explain why it is not working in similar conditions lot of sub rules like our constitution i think there is something beyond all these statements of rishis which we have to explore we have to research with similar conditiions with varied results in real life tons of books have been writtren translated in to many languages of the rishis yogas etc however could not find convincing answers in many situations becuase only 9 planets and 12 houses for all millions of people how we can equate it is not that a case is failed in medical field the science is fault people repeadly go to doctor and astrologers with strong beliefs some time works some timedelayed sometime absolutely fails but human efforts always there digging to find thetruth behind all this every body accepts fate and astrology nobody denies the results of good yogas very nice to read however in practice many do not workas expected even some servant maids have very good yogas and if we apply the yogas to them they must be very high in society once we know if they are vips applyall good yogas once we know their poor background apply as intrepreations and apply bad yogas as for raw eyes all looks to be similar thanks with regards thanks with regards Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote: Dear Fellow members and Astrologers, I am attaching my resharch article on Nabhas yogas.In this article Nabhas yogas are visualized in completely new lightand also indicate their importance.As all planets ,houses ,Signs and Nakshatras have their natural signification , likewiseevery nativity has its natural signification(Karktwa)- which is indicated by Nabhas yogas.RegardsG..K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Here is the solution. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Dear Sairam, On May 29, 2008, at 7:23 PM, sairam nat wrote: > i have twins with varied life styles could not find convincing > explanations if given two astrologers without informing the > background we could laugh at their results > I am not sure if the list rules allow posting a URL to my blog on this topic, so I will cut and paste here: The question is posed: " You have two identical twins born at the same time in the same place to the same parent. their lives are not identical. therefore Astrology must be bogus. " First of all identical twins are NOT born at the exact same time. They are usually a few minutes apart. Nor is it really common AT ALL for two children of the same gender to be born at the SAME MINUTE in the same building. The question underestimates the accuracy of Vedic Astrology. A difference of just a minute or two of birth changes the divisional charts significantly and can even change the lagna and house positions very significantly. Thus you have situations where some twins or some people born at the same time lead quite different lives. In other situations (when we are not near the cusp or “sadhi” of the lagna (ascendant), for example) the difference of a few minutes in the same location of birth does not create differences in the horoscopes. Thus you have other situations where some twins lead nearly the same lives. On top of that, we have to admit that human beings are not robots. Human beings have freewill, and this freewill is " aspected " or influenced by considerations relating to the historical era they live in, the country and culture they experience, and the type of people they hang out with. Freewill provides for an unpredictable level of variance in one's life experience. And can looked at in cases where nearly identical births cause very different life experiences not warranted by the difference in birth time. Thank you, Vic Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 Dear Sir, When one considers Varga charts , Lagna is divided in 150 unequal segments.  This is the reason that the natives born with small difference in time may face variation in the events in some areas of life. Regards,  G.K.GOEL sairam nat <sairaman53 Friday, 30 May, 2008 7:53:40 AM Re:Nabhas Yogas sai 30508 planets stay in the same house for long a lagna runs for nearly 2 hours many many lakhs born in same conditions for eg gajakesari yoga moon movesfast and comes in an angle to jupiter very frequently can we imagine all the real effects for all born same between 2 hours in same  lagna in world there are few millioners and vips most most below average line however along with vips many many born almost and exact conditions i have twins with varied life styles could not find convincing explanations if given two astrologers without informing the background we could laugh at their results there is yogas then intpretations why it is not working but could not explain why it is not working in similar conditions lot of sub rules like our constitution i think there is something beyond all these statements of rishis which we have to explore we have to research with similar conditiions with varied results in real life tons of books have been writtren translated in to many languages of the rishis yogas etc however could not find convincing answers in many situations becuase only 9 planets and 12 houses for all millions of people how we can equate it is not that a case is failed in medical field the science is fault people repeadly go to doctor and astrologers with strong beliefs some time works some timedelayed sometime absolutely fails but human efforts always there digging to find thetruth behind all this every body accepts fate and astrology nobody denies the results of good yogas very nice to read however in practice many do not work as expected even some servant maids have very good yogas and if we apply the yogas to them they must be very high in society once we know if they are vips applyall good yogas once we know their poor background apply as intrepreations and apply bad yogas as for raw eyes all looks to be similar thanks with regards thanks with regards Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear Fellow members and Astrologers, I am attaching my resharch article on Nabhas yogas. In this article Nabhas yogas are visualized in completely new light and also indicate their importance. As all planets ,houses ,Signs and Nakshatras have their natural signification , likewise every nativity has its natural signification( Karktwa)- which is indicated by Nabhas yogas. RegardsG..K.GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ________________________________ Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Here is the solution. Has your work life balance shifted? Find out - http://in.search./search? & fr=na_onnetwork_mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & \ p=work+life+balance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 thank y sir for yr instant rsponse with good informationin general we see lagna navamsaif the 150 vargas are deciphered i think we can get more details however could not find information books are discussions are on this if available discussed in length with good example charts of incidents and comparison it shall be very very useful sir thank y sirwith many regards--- On Fri, 30/5/08, Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 Re:Nabhas Yogas sai 30508To: Date: Friday, 30 May, 2008, 9:40 AM Dear Sir, When one considers Varga charts , Lagna is divided in 150 unequal segments. This is the reason that the natives born with small difference in time may face variation in the events in some areas of life. Regards, G.K.GOEL sairam nat <sairaman53 > ancient_indian_ astrology Friday, 30 May, 2008 7:53:40 AM [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re:Nabhas Yogas sai 30508 planets stay in the same house for long a lagna runs for nearly 2 hours many many lakhs born in same conditions for eg gajakesari yoga moon movesfast and comes in an angle to jupiter very frequently can we imagine all the real effects for all born same between 2 hours in same lagna in world there are few millioners and vips most most below average line however along with vips many many born almost and exact conditions i have twins with varied life styles could not find convincing explanations if given two astrologers without informing the background we could laugh at their results there is yogas then intpretations why it is not working but could not explain why it is not working in similar conditions lot of sub rules like our constitution i think there is something beyond all these statements of rishis which we have to explore we have to research with similar conditiions with varied results in real life tons of books have been writtren translated in to many languages of the rishis yogas etc however could not find convincing answers in many situations becuase only 9 planets and 12 houses for all millions of people how we can equate it is not that a case is failed in medical field the science is fault people repeadly go to doctor and astrologers with strong beliefs some time works some timedelayed sometime absolutely fails but human efforts always there digging to find thetruth behind all this every body accepts fate and astrology nobody denies the results of good yogas very nice to read however in practice many do not work as expected even some servant maids have very good yogas and if we apply the yogas to them they must be very high in society once we know if they are vips applyall good yogas once we know their poor background apply as intrepreations and apply bad yogas as for raw eyes all looks to be similar thanks with regards thanks with regards Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937@ . co.in> wrote: Dear Fellow members and Astrologers, I am attaching my resharch article on Nabhas yogas. In this article Nabhas yogas are visualized in completely new light and also indicate their importance. As all planets ,houses ,Signs and Nakshatras have their natural signification , likewise every nativity has its natural signification( Karktwa)- which is indicated by Nabhas yogas. RegardsG..K. GOEL Ph: 09350311433 Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR NEW DELHI-110 076 INDIA ____________ _________ _________ __ Messenger blocked? Want to chat? Here is the solution. Has your work life balance shifted? Find out - http://in.search. / search? & fr= na_onnetwork_ mail_taglines & ei=UTF-8 & rd=r1 & p=work+ life+balance Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 30, 2008 Report Share Posted May 30, 2008 tough we not discuss identical twins as y have rightly said it is definitely minites apart in birth and the vargas changes fast however in general the vargas are never discussed in length just like rasi and navamsams.the yogas never describe when apply pls go to varas and confirm whether it is applicable to y are not they are plain text and most common people see imagine fail and frustated even well highly [paid astrologer put 150 vargas and discuss the hor. and say due to the varga changes these yogas are not applicable to y as we see vips and their hor. all good positives yogas attributedto them when we know he is middle lower level man from society all bad yogas attributed for same in different fashion for the state of affairs for his life style if any one have narrated the vips hors. just due this varga he is great and others ordinary then we can try to dig the details of vargas and convince our sevesmany common man in poor life style has very good yogas atnoshing yogas andconduct very very ordinary life and can come across people havging planets in bad house neecha etc etc in very good position that is why to describe in length the so many yogas ofrishis in practical terms servicwe very little purpose something hidden to realise either the good or the bad yogas for so many years so many books it is not explained about the vargas through which the yogas ofrishis do not work or work very very limitedtexts available to study and understand the vargas details however so many books many many to describe with known charts to explain the yogas told by rishis basically personality , finance , husband wife relation the 7th house with unknown background similar hors how many can give correct results most commkon rules applied miserably fails in many cases it is neither robot or factory product but when we see the results of the yogas good ones we are so happly when does not work in life we sfeel very very bad about the doubtful science I am sure there are still some great stalwards could give instant results but no5t explaining the techinques the secret of the composition there also it requires good timing to see a great astrologer guru or a doctor to get good results nothing told is personal pls do not mistake if any of my statement is wrong thanks with regards thank y sir with my kind regards --- On Fri, 30/5/08, Vic D <vicdicara wrote:Vic D <vicdicara Re:Nabhas Yogas sai 30508 Date: Friday, 30 May, 2008, 9:10 AMDear Sairam,On May 29, 2008, at 7:23 PM, sairam nat wrote:> i have twins with varied life styles could not find convincing > explanations if given two astrologers without informing the > background we could laugh at their results>I am not sure if the list rules allow posting a URL to my blog on this topic, so I will cut and paste here:The question is posed: "You have two identical twins born at the same time in the same place to the same parent. their lives are not identical. therefore Astrology must be bogus."First of all identical twins are NOT born at the exact same time. They are usually a few minutes apart. Nor is it really common AT ALL for two children of the same gender to be born at the SAME MINUTE in the same building.The question underestimates the accuracy of Vedic Astrology. A difference of just a minute or two of birth changes the divisional charts significantly and can even change the lagna and house positions very significantly.Thus you have situations where some twins or some people born at the same time lead quite different lives.In other situations (when we are not near the cusp or “sadhi†of the lagna (ascendant), for example) the difference of a few minutes in the same location of birth does not create differences in the horoscopes. Thus you have other situations where some twins lead nearly the same lives.On top of that, we have to admit that human beings are not robots. Human beings have freewill, and this freewill is "aspected" or influenced by considerations relating to the historical era they live in, the country and culture they experience, and the type of people they hang out with. Freewill provides for an unpredictable level of variance in one's life experience. And can looked at in cases where nearly identical births cause very different life experiences not warranted by the difference in birth time.Thank you,Vic--- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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