Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Deaar Gaurav ji,==>P.S.-Yes, I will advertise & market my website & collect moneythrough paid readings. What does it matter to you???<== Please remove the advt. link http://gauravastro.150m.com given at the bottom of your every mail, as suggested in the home page of the group. I am quoting teh home page statement for your reference below -==>Important:========= * Learn/Teach/Discuss. But please neither request for consultation nor respond to consultation request within the group. * Please avoid advertisement info - such as links, email address, contact address, phone number etc - in messages.<== Hope that you will agree to the same to keep in tune with the group policy. Note: I request Goal ji, and any others who include such info in their mails to abide by the group policy regarding this.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "" <gaurav.ghosh wrote:>> ||Jai Ramakrishna||> Dear Shree Chandra Hariji,> Well said.Its upto you whether you want to hurt me in public or > sending me some mails. Seems, that you are more than the Creator, > who can say with certainty what exactly is going to happen; an > astrologer can only indicate, never can say with certainty. If he > does so, its nothing but a fake claim & ego. Your ego is oozing from > each & every word of your mail.> Yes,you dont want truth, thats why you dont need Upanishadic > quotations.Though its needless to say the number of Upanishads I > have gone through,based on Sankara's commentary, still for your > info, I have gone through isha,kena, katha, manduka, mundka, > taittiriya, prasna, swetaswatara & brihadaranyaka (couldn't read > Chhandogya as dint get time ).So, I guess you wont say that I was > googling with the Upanishads, neither Gospel of Shree Ramakrishna > (If you haven't gone through that book, I have an ebook for you. If > you want, I would love to send it thru email!!).> //> What you know of astrology that you have started advertizing and> > collecting money? Are you competent to give any astrological > service to> > people at the age of 23? What do you know about life?> > > > Sit at home and learn first. I have already told you that our age> > difference is more than your age. If you are still indolent, may > be you> > are some genius. Then give me the good fortune to be at your feet > so> > that I can learn something from you. I am very serious as I know a> > teacher can come in disguise also.> > > > chandra hari//> > These words reflect nothing but ego, superiority complex, arrogance > & lack of humility. Do you consider that you know everything of > astrology????Do you have thorough knowledge of all subjects in this > world & life also???Even if i am a genius, I will never place you > below my feet only because of your false ego, & lack of humility!!..> You are a devotee of Bhavani, good , but remember, Bhavani can you > pull you down anytime she wants (recollect experience of Shankara in > Kashi).> Thank you,> > http://gauravastro.150m.com> P.S.-Yes, I will advertise & market my website & collect money > through paid readings. What does it matter to you???> > > > > , "chandra_hari18" > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > This is what I call indolence. I don't want to comment further > because> > you are a kid and I don't want to hurt you in public. I don't want > to> > show you a mirror now at this time. You already know what I said > is true> > or not and no need to wait till 30 May. Don't try to be oversmart. > If I> > said that you had a bad time, then you have a bad time. I don't > wait to> > know anything. If you are lucky then it is punyam of your parents.> > > > I don't need any Upanishadic quotations. What have you studied from> > Upanishads? How many Upanishads have you studied beyond may be > googling?> > > > What do you know about Sankara's advaitam? What have you read on> > Darsanams? Don't try to chat with me here after googling on > Ramakrishna> > or advaitam or Sankara?> > > > What you know of astrology that you have started advertizing and> > collecting money? Are you competent to give any astrological > service to> > people at the age of 23? What do you know about life?> > > > Sit at home and learn first. I have already told you that our age> > difference is more than your age. If you are still indolent, may > be you> > are some genius. Then give me the good fortune to be at your feet > so> > that I can learn something from you. I am very serious as I know a> > teacher can come in disguise also.> > > > chandra hari> > > > > > > > > > > > > > , ""> > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:> > >> > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > Dear Shree Chandrahariji,> > > Read Gospel of Shree Ramakrishna. You will get to know why I am> > > saying that. Was shankar mayavadi???I guess no,else he wouldn't> > > taken Sanyasa as early.> > > Its not I select my time of birth, as neither I am shree krishna > nor> > > sukdeb, son of Vyasa. I took birth as the almighty wanted.> > > Do you think that you are the only who wants to know the truth,> > > whereas we all are eager to know everything except truth??We all> > > want to know the truth as you its the truth that triumphs over > the> > > false (Remember Mundak Upnishad??? "Satyameva jayate naanritam ..> > > etc")> > > My mind is always open to learn new things, or even old things> > > bottled in new glasses, however, from you, I will wait till May> > > 30th. (U know why!!)> > > Thank you,> > > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "chandra_hari18"> > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > >> > > > You learn more to understand the meaning of what Mayavadi > Sankara> > > has> > > > said. One who worships Ramakrishna should not say Jaganmithya.> > > Jagat is> > > > the body of Mahamaya at whose feet Ramakrishna lived in > surrender.> > > For> > > > me Ramakrishna, Sarada, Bhairavi and Rasmani etc are not part > of> > > any> > > > mithya.> > > >> > > > And you did not suddenly fall or appear. You chose your moment> > > suitable> > > > to enjoy the fruits of your own Karma. Seek out the grace at> > > > Dakshinesvar so that if at all you had a fall this time under > Karma> > > > instead of a choice, next time you can make a choice.> > > >> > > > Shed your mind of the software that dims your receptivity. You > are> > > too> > > > young, keep an open mind.> > > >> > > > I love you like my own kid. And I know sometimes kids need > thorough> > > > scolding. ..> > > >> > > > I don't care anything except truth. I am not a fool to > perpetuate a> > > > wrong ayanamsa in my name as some people do. I am only trying > to> > > know> > > > the truth. And the real test of Zodiac is in the experience of> > > Cosmos -> > > > one has to experience the computed sun in his breathing...If > you> > > are> > > > ready to learn come, I will make you experience that.> > > >> > > > chandra hari> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , ""> > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > > >> > > > > Dear Shree Chandrahariji,> > > > >> > > > > Yes, the mortal body suddenly appeared in the world map, but > the> > > soul> > > > is> > > > > eternal. The world is also mortal thats why Adi > Shankaracharya> > > said in> > > > > half sloka, "Brahma satya, jaganmitthya, jivo brahmaiva > naapara".> > > > >> > > > > FYI....i dont celebrate my birthday!!cause its the birth of > the> > > mortal> > > > > body, not the atman!!Atman is nitya, buddha, mukta & shuddha.> > > > > Regarding ayanamsha issue, you jus misunderstood considering> > > that I> > > > > criticised you. You are much older than me, so why shall I> > > criticise> > > > > you??I humbly said that I follow chitrapaksha ayanamsha, & > > > unless some> > > > > circumstances arise, I will continue such practise.> > > > >> > > > > What you noticed frm my website is jus commercialisation of> > > Jyotish> > > > > (i.e. offering paid services) & termed it as infancy. You are> > > free to> > > > > tell anything & whatever you want to speak. You always have > the> > > > liberty> > > > > as Article 21 of Indian COnstitution granted you that right. > But> > > > before> > > > > making any comment, remember that i told you the reason for > paid> > > > service> > > > > through our private mails.> > > > >> > > > > Thank you,> > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > , "chandra_hari18"> > > > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > 5)Birth Horoscope--- Many astrologers consider that > India "was> > > > > > born" on 15th August, 1947. Tell me onething, dint exist > for> > > 1000s> > > > > > of years with its rich history & culture??Or suddenly it > came> > > up in> > > > > > the world map???> > > > > >> > > > > > What about you Gaurav? You have suddenly appeared on the > world> > > map> > > > as> > > > > > ?> > > > > >> > > > > > May be you are also eternal but still you celebrate your> > > birthday?> > > > > >> > > > > > Same logic people apply to Indian Democratic Republic and > they> > > make> > > > > > chart for the muhurtha of political transformation from > British> > > > India> > > > > to> > > > > > Independent India.> > > > > >> > > > > > Regarding other questions you have, to understand the > answers> > > please> > > > > > have a sound reading in all related areas. Do you have the> > > potential> > > > > to> > > > > > understand ayanamsa issue? If yes, I can give you the > answer> > > now.> > > > But> > > > > > then you must study and present the pros and cons/merits of> > > the work> > > > > > truthfully before the public. I will give you papers > published> > > in> > > > > > scientific journals after refereeing by best of professors.> > > Are you> > > > > > ready to make an attempt?> > > > > >> > > > > > chandra hari> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 6, 2008 Report Share Posted May 6, 2008 Dear Sreenadh, I saw his website as he had given the address http://gauravastro.150m.com. But it did not struck me that the aim was advertizement. After seeing his site I could understand that he is only 23 and he is doing business in astrology for $25 readings. I was amused and had a look at his chart. I was inspired to give some advice on private mail considering his age and the adverse implications in his chart. But his choice was to scorn my advice. From your mail I understand that the appearance of webaddress was his way of advertizing. I wanted to give him some real thrashing after seeing his upstart-oversmart responses but then restrained. Have a look at his website. The kind of articles he has provided on Kuja dosha etc may be to attract clients. Example he gave is also wrong. It can help none to understand the implications of ayanamsa. I could not find the date of teh event given. And for a chart with 4 planets in 8th aspected by 2 from 2nd and exchange of 2-8 lords, Sun-Mars in 8th aspected by Sat and Rahu, I don't think that anyone can decide the ayansmsa issue from a discussion on her marriage. It is better not to discuss such a chart in public. There are a few things which cannot be predicted, according to a verse, (may be of Bhartrhari) - Women's mind (streenancha chittam), Man's luck (Purushasya bhagyam).. Direction of the wind, Power of a horse, Fall of rain.. at least difficult to predict. chandra hari , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> > Deaar Gaurav ji,> ==>> P.S.-Yes, I will advertise & market my website & collect money> through paid readings. What does it matter to you???> <==> Please remove the advt. link http://gauravastro.150m.com> <http://gauravastro.150m.com> given at the bottom of your every mail,> as suggested in the home page of the group. I am quoting teh home page> statement for your reference below -> ==>> Important:> =========> * Learn/Teach/Discuss. But please neither request for consultation nor> respond to consultation request within the group.> * Please avoid advertisement info - such as links, email address,> contact address, phone number etc - in messages.> <==> Hope that you will agree to the same to keep in tune with the group> policy.> > Note: I request Goal ji, and any others who include such info in their> mails to abide by the group policy regarding this.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , ""> gaurav.ghosh@ wrote:> >> > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > Dear Shree Chandra Hariji,> > Well said.Its upto you whether you want to hurt me in public or> > sending me some mails. Seems, that you are more than the Creator,> > who can say with certainty what exactly is going to happen; an> > astrologer can only indicate, never can say with certainty. If he> > does so, its nothing but a fake claim & ego. Your ego is oozing from> > each & every word of your mail.> > Yes,you dont want truth, thats why you dont need Upanishadic> > quotations.Though its needless to say the number of Upanishads I> > have gone through,based on Sankara's commentary, still for your> > info, I have gone through isha,kena, katha, manduka, mundka,> > taittiriya, prasna, swetaswatara & brihadaranyaka (couldn't read> > Chhandogya as dint get time ).So, I guess you wont say that I was> > googling with the Upanishads, neither Gospel of Shree Ramakrishna> > (If you haven't gone through that book, I have an ebook for you. If> > you want, I would love to send it thru email!!).> > //> What you know of astrology that you have started advertizing and> > > collecting money? Are you competent to give any astrological> > service to> > > people at the age of 23? What do you know about life?> > >> > > Sit at home and learn first. I have already told you that our age> > > difference is more than your age. If you are still indolent, may> > be you> > > are some genius. Then give me the good fortune to be at your feet> > so> > > that I can learn something from you. I am very serious as I know a> > > teacher can come in disguise also.> > >> > > chandra hari//> >> > These words reflect nothing but ego, superiority complex, arrogance> > & lack of humility. Do you consider that you know everything of> > astrology????Do you have thorough knowledge of all subjects in this> > world & life also???Even if i am a genius, I will never place you> > below my feet only because of your false ego, & lack of humility!!..> > You are a devotee of Bhavani, good , but remember, Bhavani can you> > pull you down anytime she wants (recollect experience of Shankara in> > Kashi).> > Thank you,> > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com> > P.S.-Yes, I will advertise & market my website & collect money> > through paid readings. What does it matter to you???> > > >> >> >> > , "chandra_hari18"> > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > >> > >> > > Dear Gaurav,> > >> > > This is what I call indolence. I don't want to comment further> > because> > > you are a kid and I don't want to hurt you in public. I don't want> > to> > > show you a mirror now at this time. You already know what I said> > is true> > > or not and no need to wait till 30 May. Don't try to be oversmart.> > If I> > > said that you had a bad time, then you have a bad time. I don't> > wait to> > > know anything. If you are lucky then it is punyam of your parents.> > >> > > I don't need any Upanishadic quotations. What have you studied from> > > Upanishads? How many Upanishads have you studied beyond may be> > googling?> > >> > > What do you know about Sankara's advaitam? What have you read on> > > Darsanams? Don't try to chat with me here after googling on> > Ramakrishna> > > or advaitam or Sankara?> > >> > > What you know of astrology that you have started advertizing and> > > collecting money? Are you competent to give any astrological> > service to> > > people at the age of 23? What do you know about life?> > >> > > Sit at home and learn first. I have already told you that our age> > > difference is more than your age. If you are still indolent, may> > be you> > > are some genius. Then give me the good fortune to be at your feet> > so> > > that I can learn something from you. I am very serious as I know a> > > teacher can come in disguise also.> > >> > > chandra hari> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , ""> > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:> > > >> > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > > Dear Shree Chandrahariji,> > > > Read Gospel of Shree Ramakrishna. You will get to know why I am> > > > saying that. Was shankar mayavadi???I guess no,else he wouldn't> > > > taken Sanyasa as early.> > > > Its not I select my time of birth, as neither I am shree krishna> > nor> > > > sukdeb, son of Vyasa. I took birth as the almighty wanted.> > > > Do you think that you are the only who wants to know the truth,> > > > whereas we all are eager to know everything except truth??We all> > > > want to know the truth as you its the truth that triumphs over> > the> > > > false (Remember Mundak Upnishad??? "Satyameva jayate naanritam ..> > > > etc")> > > > My mind is always open to learn new things, or even old things> > > > bottled in new glasses, however, from you, I will wait till May> > > > 30th. (U know why!!)> > > > Thank you,> > > > > > > > http://gauravastro.150m.com> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "chandra_hari18"> > > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Dear Gaurav,> > > > >> > > > > You learn more to understand the meaning of what Mayavadi> > Sankara> > > > has> > > > > said. One who worships Ramakrishna should not say Jaganmithya.> > > > Jagat is> > > > > the body of Mahamaya at whose feet Ramakrishna lived in> > surrender.> > > > For> > > > > me Ramakrishna, Sarada, Bhairavi and Rasmani etc are not part> > of> > > > any> > > > > mithya.> > > > >> > > > > And you did not suddenly fall or appear. You chose your moment> > > > suitable> > > > > to enjoy the fruits of your own Karma. Seek out the grace at> > > > > Dakshinesvar so that if at all you had a fall this time under> > Karma> > > > > instead of a choice, next time you can make a choice.> > > > >> > > > > Shed your mind of the software that dims your receptivity. You> > are> > > > too> > > > > young, keep an open mind.> > > > >> > > > > I love you like my own kid. And I know sometimes kids need> > thorough> > > > > scolding. ..> > > > >> > > > > I don't care anything except truth. I am not a fool to> > perpetuate a> > > > > wrong ayanamsa in my name as some people do. I am only trying> > to> > > > know> > > > > the truth. And the real test of Zodiac is in the experience of> > > > Cosmos -> > > > > one has to experience the computed sun in his breathing...If> > you> > > > are> > > > > ready to learn come, I will make you experience that.> > > > >> > > > > chandra hari> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , ""> > > > > <gaurav.ghosh@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > ||Jai Ramakrishna||> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Shree Chandrahariji,> > > > > >> > > > > > Yes, the mortal body suddenly appeared in the world map, but> > the> > > > soul> > > > > is> > > > > > eternal. The world is also mortal thats why Adi> > Shankaracharya> > > > said in> > > > > > half sloka, "Brahma satya, jaganmitthya, jivo brahmaiva> > naapara".> > > > > >> > > > > > FYI....i dont celebrate my birthday!!cause its the birth of> > the> > > > mortal> > > > > > body, not the atman!!Atman is nitya, buddha, mukta & shuddha.> > > > > > Regarding ayanamsha issue, you jus misunderstood considering> > > > that I> > > > > > criticised you. You are much older than me, so why shall I> > > > criticise> > > > > > you??I humbly said that I follow chitrapaksha ayanamsha, & > > > > unless some> > > > > > circumstances arise, I will continue such practise.> > > > > >> > > > > > What you noticed frm my website is jus commercialisation of> > > > Jyotish> > > > > > (i.e. offering paid services) & termed it as infancy. You are> > > > free to> > > > > > tell anything & whatever you want to speak. You always have> > the> > > > > liberty> > > > > > as Article 21 of Indian COnstitution granted you that right.> > But> > > > > before> > > > > > making any comment, remember that i told you the reason for> > paid> > > > > service> > > > > > through our private mails.> > > > > >> > > > > > Thank you,> > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > --- In> > , "chandra_hari18"> > > > > > chandra_hari18@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > 5)Birth Horoscope--- Many astrologers consider that> > India "was> > > > > > > born" on 15th August, 1947. Tell me onething, dint exist> > for> > > > 1000s> > > > > > > of years with its rich history & culture??Or suddenly it> > came> > > > up in> > > > > > > the world map???> > > > > > >> > > > > > > What about you Gaurav? You have suddenly appeared on the> > world> > > > map> > > > > as> > > > > > > ?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > May be you are also eternal but still you celebrate your> > > > birthday?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Same logic people apply to Indian Democratic Republic and> > they> > > > make> > > > > > > chart for the muhurtha of political transformation from> > British> > > > > India> > > > > > to> > > > > > > Independent India.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Regarding other questions you have, to understand the> > answers> > > > please> > > > > > > have a sound reading in all related areas. Do you have the> > > > potential> > > > > > to> > > > > > > understand ayanamsa issue? If yes, I can give you the> > answer> > > > now.> > > > > But> > > > > > > then you must study and present the pros and cons/merits of> > > > the work> > > > > > > truthfully before the public. I will give you papers> > published> > > > in> > > > > > > scientific journals after refereeing by best of professors.> > > > Are you> > > > > > > ready to make an attempt?> > > > > > >> > > > > > > chandra hari> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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