Prediction for India 2007 - Jo urnal of Astrology

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||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Chakraborty,

panchanga means five limbs --Tithi, Bar, Nakshatra, Yoga & Karan---

Of these 5, generally we use only Nakshatra. If you read classical

texts like Jatak Parijata, you will find tithi,bar, yoga & karan

results.

If you want to know the use of tithi & yoga, read New Techniques of

Prediction by HR Sheshadri Iyer. Its discusses how should these 2 b

used for astrological predictions.

Thank you,

 

http://gauravastro.150m.com

 

 

 

, " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil-ji and other friends,

>

> The discussions are giving us some idea how experts look at the

charts for

> interpretation.

>

> It is really great for beginners like us.

>

> A question .....

>

> I have seen few astrologers giving some emphasis on 'Panchang'

before going

> for detailed

> chart analysis. Here, none has discussed Panchang.

>

> The inference I draw is - Panchang has very limited use. Am I

correct ?

>

> regards

>

> chakraborty

>

> PS - Sunil-ji, few days back, I had sent you a pm, asking for

professional

> help.

> Have you received that mail ? Please do tell me.

>

>

>

>

>

> sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]

> Friday, May 02, 2008 10:42 AM

>

> Re: Prediction for India 2007 -

Journal

> of Astrology

Hare rama krishna

>

> dear Pt.arjun ji,

>

>

>

> From time imommorial the astrologers ( i mean raja

jyothishies )

> were making diffrnt chart for princely states of india .And many

were

> predicting successfully too

>

>

>

> But they mix some formation yrs of kingdom ( like the day the

kingdom

> aquired by present kingly family ,then his ascention chart and new

yr chart

> ( i think mesha sankaranthi is best )

>

>

>

> The logik behind it is suppose a muhurtha chart can influence

marriage or

> any events ,then formation of a country chart can influence those

countries

> ..

>

>

>

> what baffles me is rishis used vimshottary (120 yrs dasa -as a

humans max

> longitivity is 120 yrs as king od dasa ) for humans ,but is it

applicable to

> nations too ,or should we use some kind of expanded dasa ??Now US

is more

> than 300 yrs old ,so how vimshottary dasa 2 times almost finished

for it

> ,and may be 3rd round of repetition ,so how we could use it for

countries

> which is older than 120 yrs ??

>

>

>

> also i am yet to find some one use other dasa like yogini or

charadasa or

> conditional dasas for delinating the results of nations why no one

dare to

> use it ??

>

>

>

> For other animals and pets parashara always says consider their

longitivity

> and use dasas ( but no model is given ) ,so a dog has 12 yrs

logitivity ,so

> we may need to reduce the 120 yrs into 12 yrs and use some

compressed dasa

> ,but again how to use transits ??sade sathi ??etc comes in

question .

>

>

>

> But i find other methods like prashna works well for national or

political

> charts and combine it with transits and mesha samkranthi charts (

but need

> to perfect some fool proof methods ).

>

>

>

> my 2 paisa opinion on it

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

>

>

>

>

> , " panditarjun2004 "

> <panditarjun2004@> wrote:

> >

> > dear learnt fraternal friends

> >

> > would appreciate if specific answers are given to the following

> > queries:

> >

> > 1. what is the basis of casting a horsocope for a PIECE OF LAND.

any

> > ancient scriptural sanction for casting charts of geographies.

> >

> > 2. was there any original chart of bharat khand that existed

long

> > ago. in medieval period, several kingdoms existed as mentioned

in

> > astrology classics too (kalyanavarma states what planet ruling

which

> > kingdom in his saravali) and each territory or province had

their own

> > kings and each kingdom has its own chart. was there any unified

> > india chart earlier at all, as there were separate kingdoms

based on

> > geographies. of course under ashoka era, he annexed (like

present

> > china) all kingdoms from afghanistan and downwards.

> >

> > 3. after separation of pakistan, india got another chart.

bangladesh

> > gets another chart later. so the indian chart changed several

times

> > and what everyone analysing is the last modified or rectified or

last

> > amended in august 1947. if the original chart of thousands of

years

> > ago remained same and only some parts are lost and formed as

separate

> > countires, how come we treat india's 1947 chart as a new chart

as if

> > some new kingdom is born whereas in reality, this larger

fatherlike

> > india existed long long ago and its old original birth chart

must be

> > retained and the new countries formed separately can have their

new

> > charts.

> >

> > 4. dozens of states of this country too have their own formation

days

> > and have their own birthcharts. does india chart work in one way

and

> > the individual chart work another way like two different charts

of a

> > father and a son.

> >

> > 5. uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh and bihar had only one chart

> > earlier. later uttarnchal, chattisgarh and jharkhand got created

and

> > have thier own birthtimes. so new charts of these three states

are

> > created. does it mean these new states are like children of the

old

> > states and the analysis of the old chart becomes nonapplicable

to

> > this new state which now got is own chart.

> >

> > 6. since many an astrologer are creating charts for geographies,

some

> > astrologers started casting horoscopes for companies aka

corporate

> > astrology. here too i dont know what exactly has to be reckoned

> > whether the formation of the company, time of registration or

time of

> > commencement of manufacturing. can any astrologer casting charts

of

> > companies advise on this.

> >

> > 7. if horoscopes can be charted for geographies and corporate

> > entities, can horoscopes be cast for political parties as well

since

> > each party must be having a formation day and then astrologers

can

> > start giving political party predictions as well based on the

party

> > birth charts.

> >

> > 8. in a similar debate earlier on the validity of casting

horoscopes

> > for animals like pet dogs and cats, some learnt astrologers

opined

> > that horoscopes can be cast only for humans and not animals,

birds

> > and trees. can horoscopes be made to all other creatures other

than

> > humans. does ancient scriptures mention casting charts for

animals

> > and birds.

> >

> > answers to above queries would help me understand better the way

we

> > cast charts of non-life entities like countries, states,

companies

> > and parties, and also for living creatures other than humans.

> >

> > with best wishes and blessings

> > pandit arjun

>

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear gaurav,

 

Thanks a lot.

 

regards

 

Chakraborty

 

 

[gaurav.ghosh]

Friday, May 02, 2008 12:01 PM

 

Re: Prediction for India 2007 - Jo urnal

of Astrology

 

 

 

||Jai Ramakrishna||

Dear Chakraborty,

panchanga means five limbs --Tithi, Bar, Nakshatra, Yoga & Karan---

Of these 5, generally we use only Nakshatra. If you read classical

texts like Jatak Parijata, you will find tithi,bar, yoga & karan

results.

If you want to know the use of tithi & yoga, read New Techniques of

Prediction by HR Sheshadri Iyer. Its discusses how should these 2 b

used for astrological predictions.

Thank you,

 

http://gauravastro. <http://gauravastro.150m.com> 150m.com

 

ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology , " Chakraborty, PL "

<CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:

>

> Dear Sunil-ji and other friends,

>

> The discussions are giving us some idea how experts look at the

charts for

> interpretation.

>

> It is really great for beginners like us.

>

> A question .....

>

> I have seen few astrologers giving some emphasis on 'Panchang'

before going

> for detailed

> chart analysis. Here, none has discussed Panchang.

>

> The inference I draw is - Panchang has very limited use. Am I

correct ?

>

> regards

>

> chakraborty

>

> PS - Sunil-ji, few days back, I had sent you a pm, asking for

professional

> help.

> Have you received that mail ? Please do tell me.

>

[Guest guest]

Hare rama krishna

dear chakraborty ji

 

yes ,BPHS and horas takes everything into consideration ,evn sripathy padhathi has given lot of imp to varhsathipa (year lord ),masadhipa (monthlord ) ,day lord ,upto hora lord ( means planetary hr ) and its results mathematicaly in computation of results .But they dont disclose the real technics .

 

But much of the technics is in parmpara and some astrologers even if they know may not be willing to share tru net grps .

 

some insight is in sheshadri iyyers revealed technics what guarav gosh says

 

i will write to u later ( i think i did answer to u and mail may be missed )

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

 

, "Chakraborty, PL" <CHAKRABORTYP2 wrote:>> Dear Sunil-ji and other friends,> > The discussions are giving us some idea how experts look at the charts for> interpretation.> > It is really great for beginners like us.> > A question .....> > I have seen few astrologers giving some emphasis on 'Panchang' before going> for detailed> chart analysis. Here, none has discussed Panchang.> > The inference I draw is - Panchang has very limited use. Am I correct ?> > regards> > chakraborty> > PS - Sunil-ji, few days back, I had sent you a pm, asking for professional> help.> Have you received that mail ? Please do tell me. > > > > > > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]> Friday, May 02, 2008 10:42 AM> > Re: Prediction for India 2007 - Journal> of Astrology> > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear Pt.arjun ji,> > > > From time imommorial the astrologers ( i mean raja jyothishies )> were making diffrnt chart for princely states of india .And many were> predicting successfully too > > > > But they mix some formation yrs of kingdom ( like the day the kingdom> aquired by present kingly family ,then his ascention chart and new yr chart> ( i think mesha sankaranthi is best ) > > > > The logik behind it is suppose a muhurtha chart can influence marriage or> any events ,then formation of a country chart can influence those countries> ..> > > > what baffles me is rishis used vimshottary (120 yrs dasa -as a humans max> longitivity is 120 yrs as king od dasa ) for humans ,but is it applicable to> nations too ,or should we use some kind of expanded dasa ??Now US is more> than 300 yrs old ,so how vimshottary dasa 2 times almost finished for it> ,and may be 3rd round of repetition ,so how we could use it for countries> which is older than 120 yrs ??> > > > also i am yet to find some one use other dasa like yogini or charadasa or> conditional dasas for delinating the results of nations why no one dare to> use it ??> > > > For other animals and pets parashara always says consider their longitivity> and use dasas ( but no model is given ) ,so a dog has 12 yrs logitivity ,so> we may need to reduce the 120 yrs into 12 yrs and use some compressed dasa> ,but again how to use transits ??sade sathi ??etc comes in question .> > > > But i find other methods like prashna works well for national or political> charts and combine it with transits and mesha samkranthi charts ( but need> to perfect some fool proof methods ).> > > > my 2 paisa opinion on it > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > >

[Guest guest]

Dear Sunil,

 

I had a humbug theory published - Great Pyramid as 0 degree longitude

and then you can see India is ruled by Taurus. Pyramid is at 30E00 or so

and Delhi from Pyramid will be 46 deg or so. Rohini star will mark Delhi

and Mathura. 90E00 will be in Gemini and so on. For latitudes some

other mechanism had to be devised. But it is all hit and miss.

 

I know I can cull out few events and place a theory. But it cannot be of

any truth in it. It may help only to fool some innocent people...

 

One idiot in Kerala who bears my name, a self styled Brahmasri or so

has proved that Newton's laws are wrong. And he has many followers...

see the fate of Kerala's literacy... we need remedial measures for

Kerala. Avidya too take avtar.

 

chandra hari

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear chakraborty ji

>

>

>

> yes ,BPHS and horas takes everything into consideration ,evn sripathy

> padhathi has given lot of imp to varhsathipa (year lord ),masadhipa

> (monthlord ) ,day lord ,upto hora lord ( means planetary hr ) and its

> results mathematicaly in computation of results .But they dont

disclose

> the real technics .

>

>

>

> But much of the technics is in parmpara and some astrologers even if

> they know may not be willing to share tru net grps .

>

>

>

> some insight is in sheshadri iyyers revealed technics what guarav gosh

> says

>

>

>

> i will write to u later ( i think i did answer to u and mail may be

> missed )

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, " Chakraborty, PL "

> CHAKRABORTYP2@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Sunil-ji and other friends,

> >

> > The discussions are giving us some idea how experts look at the

charts

> for

> > interpretation.

> >

> > It is really great for beginners like us.

> >

> > A question .....

> >

> > I have seen few astrologers giving some emphasis on 'Panchang'

before

> going

> > for detailed

> > chart analysis. Here, none has discussed Panchang.

> >

> > The inference I draw is - Panchang has very limited use. Am I

correct

> ?

> >

> > regards

> >

> > chakraborty

> >

> > PS - Sunil-ji, few days back, I had sent you a pm, asking for

> professional

> > help.

> > Have you received that mail ? Please do tell me.

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala@]

> > Friday, May 02, 2008 10:42 AM

> >

> > Re: Prediction for India 2007 -

> Journal

> > of Astrology

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Hare rama krishna

> >

> > dear Pt.arjun ji,

> >

> >

> >

> > From time imommorial the astrologers ( i mean raja jyothishies )

> > were making diffrnt chart for princely states of india .And many

were

> > predicting successfully too

> >

> >

> >

> > But they mix some formation yrs of kingdom ( like the day the

kingdom

> > aquired by present kingly family ,then his ascention chart and new

yr

> chart

> > ( i think mesha sankaranthi is best )

> >

> >

> >

> > The logik behind it is suppose a muhurtha chart can influence

marriage

> or

> > any events ,then formation of a country chart can influence those

> countries

> > ..

> >

> >

> >

> > what baffles me is rishis used vimshottary (120 yrs dasa -as a

humans

> max

> > longitivity is 120 yrs as king od dasa ) for humans ,but is it

> applicable to

> > nations too ,or should we use some kind of expanded dasa ??Now US is

> more

> > than 300 yrs old ,so how vimshottary dasa 2 times almost finished

for

> it

> > ,and may be 3rd round of repetition ,so how we could use it for

> countries

> > which is older than 120 yrs ??

> >

> >

> >

> > also i am yet to find some one use other dasa like yogini or

charadasa

> or

> > conditional dasas for delinating the results of nations why no one

> dare to

> > use it ??

> >

> >

> >

> > For other animals and pets parashara always says consider their

> longitivity

> > and use dasas ( but no model is given ) ,so a dog has 12 yrs

> logitivity ,so

> > we may need to reduce the 120 yrs into 12 yrs and use some

compressed

> dasa

> > ,but again how to use transits ??sade sathi ??etc comes in question

..

> >

> >

> >

> > But i find other methods like prashna works well for national or

> political

> > charts and combine it with transits and mesha samkranthi charts (

but

> need

> > to perfect some fool proof methods ).

> >

> >

> >

> > my 2 paisa opinion on it

> >

> >

> >

> > regrds sunil nair

> >

> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah

> >

> >

>