Guest guest Posted May 2, 2008 Report Share Posted May 2, 2008 Dear Sunil-ji and other friends, The discussions are giving us some idea how experts look at the charts for interpretation. It is really great for beginners like us. A question ..... I have seen few astrologers giving some emphasis on 'Panchang' before going for detailed chart analysis. Here, none has discussed Panchang. The inference I draw is - Panchang has very limited use. Am I correct ? regards chakraborty PS - Sunil-ji, few days back, I had sent you a pm, asking for professional help. Have you received that mail ? Please do tell me. sunil nair [astro_tellerkerala]Friday, May 02, 2008 10:42 AM Subject: Re: Prediction for India 2007 - Journal of Astrology Hare rama krishna dear Pt.arjun ji, From time imommorial the astrologers ( i mean raja jyothishies ) were making diffrnt chart for princely states of india .And many were predicting successfully too But they mix some formation yrs of kingdom ( like the day the kingdom aquired by present kingly family ,then his ascention chart and new yr chart ( i think mesha sankaranthi is best ) The logik behind it is suppose a muhurtha chart can influence marriage or any events ,then formation of a country chart can influence those countries . what baffles me is rishis used vimshottary (120 yrs dasa -as a humans max longitivity is 120 yrs as king od dasa ) for humans ,but is it applicable to nations too ,or should we use some kind of expanded dasa ??Now US is more than 300 yrs old ,so how vimshottary dasa 2 times almost finished for it ,and may be 3rd round of repetition ,so how we could use it for countries which is older than 120 yrs ?? also i am yet to find some one use other dasa like yogini or charadasa or conditional dasas for delinating the results of nations why no one dare to use it ?? For other animals and pets parashara always says consider their longitivity and use dasas ( but no model is given ) ,so a dog has 12 yrs logitivity ,so we may need to reduce the 120 yrs into 12 yrs and use some compressed dasa ,but again how to use transits ??sade sathi ??etc comes in question . But i find other methods like prashna works well for national or political charts and combine it with transits and mesha samkranthi charts ( but need to perfect some fool proof methods ). my 2 paisa opinion on it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear learnt fraternal friends> > would appreciate if specific answers are given to the following > queries:> > 1. what is the basis of casting a horsocope for a PIECE OF LAND. any > ancient scriptural sanction for casting charts of geographies.> > 2. was there any original chart of bharat khand that existed long > ago. in medieval period, several kingdoms existed as mentioned in > astrology classics too (kalyanavarma states what planet ruling which > kingdom in his saravali) and each territory or province had their own > kings and each kingdom has its own chart. was there any unified > india chart earlier at all, as there were separate kingdoms based on > geographies. of course under ashoka era, he annexed (like present > china) all kingdoms from afghanistan and downwards. > > 3. after separation of pakistan, india got another chart. bangladesh > gets another chart later. so the indian chart changed several times > and what everyone analysing is the last modified or rectified or last > amended in august 1947. if the original chart of thousands of years > ago remained same and only some parts are lost and formed as separate > countires, how come we treat india's 1947 chart as a new chart as if > some new kingdom is born whereas in reality, this larger fatherlike > india existed long long ago and its old original birth chart must be > retained and the new countries formed separately can have their new > charts.> > 4. dozens of states of this country too have their own formation days > and have their own birthcharts. does india chart work in one way and > the individual chart work another way like two different charts of a > father and a son.> > 5. uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh and bihar had only one chart > earlier. later uttarnchal, chattisgarh and jharkhand got created and > have thier own birthtimes. so new charts of these three states are > created. does it mean these new states are like children of the old > states and the analysis of the old chart becomes nonapplicable to > this new state which now got is own chart.> > 6. since many an astrologer are creating charts for geographies, some > astrologers started casting horoscopes for companies aka corporate > astrology. here too i dont know what exactly has to be reckoned > whether the formation of the company, time of registration or time of > commencement of manufacturing. can any astrologer casting charts of > companies advise on this.> > 7. if horoscopes can be charted for geographies and corporate > entities, can horoscopes be cast for political parties as well since > each party must be having a formation day and then astrologers can > start giving political party predictions as well based on the party > birth charts.> > 8. in a similar debate earlier on the validity of casting horoscopes > for animals like pet dogs and cats, some learnt astrologers opined > that horoscopes can be cast only for humans and not animals, birds > and trees. can horoscopes be made to all other creatures other than > humans. does ancient scriptures mention casting charts for animals > and birds.> > answers to above queries would help me understand better the way we > cast charts of non-life entities like countries, states, companies > and parties, and also for living creatures other than humans.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun This Message was sent from Indian Oil Messaging Gateway. 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