Prediction for India 2007 - Journal of Astrology

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India

In the case of India, it appears much worse. The New Year horoscope of 2007 shows affliction to the lagna by both Saturn and Mars with benefic in kendra and the best planet Jupier in the eighth house. It is a war like situation.

India has always to remind itself that Pakistan has made it clear through actions and statements that the threat of war between these two countries will remain until the Kashmir issue is resolved.

The word "resolved" has two meanings as it has been since the days of Jawaharlal Nehru. India cannot part with this piece of territory and Pakistan must claim it as its or see it as an independent country.

Though Al Quaeda may have been partly annihilated as an organization, it is well recognized that, the Al Quaeda spirit remains unsubdued and will keep creating waves after waves of jehadis which is a world problem for whole of USA, Europe and a major non- Muslim country like India.

In the middle of 2007, particularly in the month of August, Saturn Ketu conjunction in Simha with Mars in Vrisha and Mithuna are most dangerous potents for the safety of India and particularly the capital , Delhi.

The year in which Mars retrogrades and stays long in two rashis are notable for violent incidents is what we must also remember. It is worthwhile reminding ourselves about what the Hindi poet, Ghagh, an excellent astrologer, had said many centuries ago.

Jo Shani Simha karasi vasa,To gardh Dilli hosi nasa

Meaning when Saturn stays in Simha, the fort of Delhi (meaning the territory and the rulers) is destroyed.

Saturn in Simha has given enough problems to India and Indian government both in 1949 and 1979 with the government either shaken up by the rush of refugees or unstable governments.

In 2007, it will be more dangerous, because it will be with Ketu and aspected by Mars. In any case, the kendra positions of malefics is always disturbing. In the New Year horoscope of 2007 of India all this is happening also in the kendras.

Earthquakes

Though there has been no replicable astrological research on earthquakes, all indications in 2007 are of earthquakes in India and elsewhere. The city of Delhi falls now under a dangerous seismic belt, with a prominent fault, as seismologists has pointed out running from east Delhi towards Meerut. Delhi will in any case suffer some destruction, whether it is earthquake or war.

Can it be an indication of a terrible earthquake affecting Delhi, destroying it partly or fully ?

(Imagine the fate of people in Delhi, Trans-Yamuna area if they were to take the prediction seriously. Astrologer says no replicable research on Earthquakes but still he is publishing such irresponsible predictions to Public.

Then think over the replicable research he had on India since 1947 and the fate of the 2007 predictions. Anyone may predict anything and go on requoting the 10% hit that anybody may make)

chandra hari

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dear learnt fraternal friends

 

would appreciate if specific answers are given to the following

queries:

 

1. what is the basis of casting a horsocope for a PIECE OF LAND. any

ancient scriptural sanction for casting charts of geographies.

 

2. was there any original chart of bharat khand that existed long

ago. in medieval period, several kingdoms existed as mentioned in

astrology classics too (kalyanavarma states what planet ruling which

kingdom in his saravali) and each territory or province had their own

kings and each kingdom has its own chart. was there any unified

india chart earlier at all, as there were separate kingdoms based on

geographies. of course under ashoka era, he annexed (like present

china) all kingdoms from afghanistan and downwards.

 

3. after separation of pakistan, india got another chart. bangladesh

gets another chart later. so the indian chart changed several times

and what everyone analysing is the last modified or rectified or last

amended in august 1947. if the original chart of thousands of years

ago remained same and only some parts are lost and formed as separate

countires, how come we treat india's 1947 chart as a new chart as if

some new kingdom is born whereas in reality, this larger fatherlike

india existed long long ago and its old original birth chart must be

retained and the new countries formed separately can have their new

charts.

 

4. dozens of states of this country too have their own formation days

and have their own birthcharts. does india chart work in one way and

the individual chart work another way like two different charts of a

father and a son.

 

5. uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh and bihar had only one chart

earlier. later uttarnchal, chattisgarh and jharkhand got created and

have thier own birthtimes. so new charts of these three states are

created. does it mean these new states are like children of the old

states and the analysis of the old chart becomes nonapplicable to

this new state which now got is own chart.

 

6. since many an astrologer are creating charts for geographies, some

astrologers started casting horoscopes for companies aka corporate

astrology. here too i dont know what exactly has to be reckoned

whether the formation of the company, time of registration or time of

commencement of manufacturing. can any astrologer casting charts of

companies advise on this.

 

7. if horoscopes can be charted for geographies and corporate

entities, can horoscopes be cast for political parties as well since

each party must be having a formation day and then astrologers can

start giving political party predictions as well based on the party

birth charts.

 

8. in a similar debate earlier on the validity of casting horoscopes

for animals like pet dogs and cats, some learnt astrologers opined

that horoscopes can be cast only for humans and not animals, birds

and trees. can horoscopes be made to all other creatures other than

humans. does ancient scriptures mention casting charts for animals

and birds.

 

answers to above queries would help me understand better the way we

cast charts of non-life entities like countries, states, companies

and parties, and also for living creatures other than humans.

 

with best wishes and blessings

pandit arjun

 

, " chandra_hari18 "

<chandra_hari18 wrote:

>

>

> India

>

>

> In the case of India, it appears much worse. The New Year horoscope

of

> 2007 shows affliction to the lagna by both Saturn and Mars with

benefic

> in kendra and the best planet Jupier in the eighth house. It is a

war

> like situation.

>

> India has always to remind itself that Pakistan has made it clear

> through actions and statements that the threat of war between these

two

> countries will remain until the Kashmir issue is resolved.

>

> The word " resolved " has two meanings as it has been since the days

of

> Jawaharlal Nehru. India cannot part with this piece of territory and

> Pakistan must claim it as its or see it as an independent country.

>

> Though Al Quaeda may have been partly annihilated as an

organization, it

> is well recognized that, the Al Quaeda spirit remains unsubdued and

will

> keep creating waves after waves of jehadis which is a world problem

for

> whole of USA, Europe and a major non- Muslim country like India.

>

> In the middle of 2007, particularly in the month of August, Saturn

Ketu

> conjunction in Simha with Mars in Vrisha and Mithuna are most

dangerous

> potents for the safety of India and particularly the capital ,

Delhi.

>

> The year in which Mars retrogrades and stays long in two rashis are

> notable for violent incidents is what we must also remember. It is

> worthwhile reminding ourselves about what the Hindi poet, Ghagh, an

> excellent astrologer, had said many centuries ago.

>

> Jo Shani Simha karasi vasa,

> To gardh Dilli hosi nasa

>

> Meaning when Saturn stays in Simha, the fort of Delhi (meaning the

> territory and the rulers) is destroyed.

>

> Saturn in Simha has given enough problems to India and Indian

government

> both in 1949 and 1979 with the government either shaken up by the

rush

> of refugees or unstable governments.

>

> In 2007, it will be more dangerous, because it will be with Ketu and

> aspected by Mars. In any case, the kendra positions of malefics is

> always disturbing. In the New Year horoscope of 2007 of India all

this

> is happening also in the kendras.

>

>

> Earthquakes

>

>

> Though there has been no replicable astrological research on

> earthquakes, all indications in 2007 are of earthquakes in India and

> elsewhere. The city of Delhi falls now under a dangerous seismic

belt,

> with a prominent fault, as seismologists has pointed out running

from

> east Delhi towards Meerut. Delhi will in any case suffer some

> destruction, whether it is earthquake or war.

>

> Can it be an indication of a terrible earthquake affecting Delhi,

> destroying it partly or fully ?

>

> (Imagine the fate of people in Delhi, Trans-Yamuna area if they

were to

> take the prediction seriously. Astrologer says no replicable

research on

> Earthquakes but still he is publishing such irresponsible

predictions to

> Public.

>

> Then think over the replicable research he had on India since 1947

and

> the fate of the 2007 predictions. Anyone may predict anything and

go on

> requoting the 10% hit that anybody may make)

>

> chandra hari

>

[Guest guest]

Dear Friend, You are correct that one should make predictions wih a sense or responsibility, specially those who has a good standing in public and whose words are taken seriously by general public. No need to issue statements that might create panic in the minds of people, specially when nothing much can be done about it. In addition, predictions lie this also affect the credebility of Astrology and Astrologers in general. Regards, Krishna chandra_hari18 <chandra_hari18 wrote: India In the case of India, it appears much worse. The New Year horoscope of 2007 shows affliction to the lagna by both Saturn and Mars with benefic in kendra and the best planet Jupier in the eighth house. It is a war like situation. India has always to remind itself that Pakistan has made it clear through actions and statements that the threat of war between these two countries will remain until the Kashmir issue is resolved. The word "resolved" has two meanings as it has been since the days of Jawaharlal Nehru. India cannot part with this piece of territory and Pakistan must claim it as its or see it as an independent country. Though Al Quaeda may have been partly annihilated as an organization, it is well recognized that, the Al Quaeda spirit remains unsubdued and will keep creating waves after waves of jehadis which is a world problem for whole of USA, Europe and a major non- Muslim country like India. In the middle of 2007, particularly in the month of August, Saturn Ketu conjunction in Simha with Mars in Vrisha and Mithuna are most dangerous potents for the safety of India and particularly the capital , Delhi. The year in which Mars retrogrades and stays long in two rashis are notable for violent incidents is what we must also remember. It is worthwhile reminding ourselves about what the Hindi poet, Ghagh, an excellent astrologer, had said many centuries ago. Jo Shani Simha karasi vasa,To gardh Dilli hosi nasa Meaning when Saturn stays in Simha, the fort of Delhi (meaning the territory and the rulers) is destroyed. Saturn in Simha has given enough problems to India and Indian government both in 1949 and 1979 with the government either shaken up by the rush of refugees or unstable governments. In 2007, it will be more dangerous, because it will be with Ketu and aspected by Mars. In any case, the kendra positions of malefics is always disturbing. In the New Year horoscope of 2007 of India all this is happening also in the kendras. Earthquakes Though there has been no replicable astrological research on earthquakes, all indications in 2007 are of earthquakes in India and elsewhere. The

city of Delhi falls now under a dangerous seismic belt, with a prominent fault, as seismologists has pointed out running from east Delhi towards Meerut. Delhi will in any case suffer some destruction, whether it is earthquake or war. Can it be an indication of a terrible earthquake affecting Delhi, destroying it partly or fully ? (Imagine the fate of people in Delhi, Trans-Yamuna area if they were to take the prediction seriously. Astrologer says no replicable research on Earthquakes but still he is publishing such irresponsible predictions to Public. Then think over the replicable research he had on India since 1947 and the fate of the 2007 predictions. Anyone may predict anything and go on requoting the 10% hit that anybody may

make) chandra hari

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Hare rama krishna

dear Pt.arjun ji,

 

From time imommorial the astrologers ( i mean raja jyothishies ) were making diffrnt chart for princely states of india .And many were predicting successfully too

 

But they mix some formation yrs of kingdom ( like the day the kingdom aquired by present kingly family ,then his ascention chart and new yr chart ( i think mesha sankaranthi is best )

 

The logik behind it is suppose a muhurtha chart can influence marriage or any events ,then formation of a country chart can influence those countries .

 

what baffles me is rishis used vimshottary (120 yrs dasa -as a humans max longitivity is 120 yrs as king od dasa ) for humans ,but is it applicable to nations too ,or should we use some kind of expanded dasa ??Now US is more than 300 yrs old ,so how vimshottary dasa 2 times almost finished for it ,and may be 3rd round of repetition ,so how we could use it for countries which is older than 120 yrs ??

 

also i am yet to find some one use other dasa like yogini or charadasa or conditional dasas for delinating the results of nations why no one dare to use it ??

 

For other animals and pets parashara always says consider their longitivity and use dasas ( but no model is given ) ,so a dog has 12 yrs logitivity ,so we may need to reduce the 120 yrs into 12 yrs and use some compressed dasa ,but again how to use transits ??sade sathi ??etc comes in question .

 

But i find other methods like prashna works well for national or political charts and combine it with transits and mesha samkranthi charts ( but need to perfect some fool proof methods ).

 

my 2 paisa opinion on it

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

 

, "panditarjun2004" <panditarjun2004 wrote:>> dear learnt fraternal friends> > would appreciate if specific answers are given to the following > queries:> > 1. what is the basis of casting a horsocope for a PIECE OF LAND. any > ancient scriptural sanction for casting charts of geographies.> > 2. was there any original chart of bharat khand that existed long > ago. in medieval period, several kingdoms existed as mentioned in > astrology classics too (kalyanavarma states what planet ruling which > kingdom in his saravali) and each territory or province had their own > kings and each kingdom has its own chart. was there any unified > india chart earlier at all, as there were separate kingdoms based on > geographies. of course under ashoka era, he annexed (like present > china) all kingdoms from afghanistan and downwards. > > 3. after separation of pakistan, india got another chart. bangladesh > gets another chart later. so the indian chart changed several times > and what everyone analysing is the last modified or rectified or last > amended in august 1947. if the original chart of thousands of years > ago remained same and only some parts are lost and formed as separate > countires, how come we treat india's 1947 chart as a new chart as if > some new kingdom is born whereas in reality, this larger fatherlike > india existed long long ago and its old original birth chart must be > retained and the new countries formed separately can have their new > charts.> > 4. dozens of states of this country too have their own formation days > and have their own birthcharts. does india chart work in one way and > the individual chart work another way like two different charts of a > father and a son.> > 5. uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh and bihar had only one chart > earlier. later uttarnchal, chattisgarh and jharkhand got created and > have thier own birthtimes. so new charts of these three states are > created. does it mean these new states are like children of the old > states and the analysis of the old chart becomes nonapplicable to > this new state which now got is own chart.> > 6. since many an astrologer are creating charts for geographies, some > astrologers started casting horoscopes for companies aka corporate > astrology. here too i dont know what exactly has to be reckoned > whether the formation of the company, time of registration or time of > commencement of manufacturing. can any astrologer casting charts of > companies advise on this.> > 7. if horoscopes can be charted for geographies and corporate > entities, can horoscopes be cast for political parties as well since > each party must be having a formation day and then astrologers can > start giving political party predictions as well based on the party > birth charts.> > 8. in a similar debate earlier on the validity of casting horoscopes > for animals like pet dogs and cats, some learnt astrologers opined > that horoscopes can be cast only for humans and not animals, birds > and trees. can horoscopes be made to all other creatures other than > humans. does ancient scriptures mention casting charts for animals > and birds.> > answers to above queries would help me understand better the way we > cast charts of non-life entities like countries, states, companies > and parties, and also for living creatures other than humans.> > with best wishes and blessings> pandit arjun

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Dear friend,

 

This is all part of Jyotisha business. If one wants to perpetuate his

name he needs some pseudoscience - ambiguous - this way that way

interpretable material for which he can manage an audience. If someone

has the resources to have a magazine any bull*.*t can be printed and

published. See what we see in the web - anyone can publish anything, no

referee is there.

 

For mundane predictions i.e the hit-miss dice game, what you need is a

chart to fool the public. If the prediction by accident turns true, then

he will go on highlighting it or esle he will leave such charts aside.

 

See how sure the astrologer was in predicting a doom of Delhi. A

catastrophic EQuake. Not even a tremor happened. Now for another 10

years if any EQ happens, he will claim it as a successful prediction.

BV Raman had predicted in 1983 AM Annual that Indira will have violent

death. But it did not happen in 1983 as per his Saturn_Mars or so

dasa-bhukti (not sure dasa, bhukti is fine). He repeated the same

prediction in 1984 Annual and bhukti he changed to Rahu. And when

tragedy happened, he claimed success. People believed him as none

recollected that he had said so in the previous year also.

 

Rao will go on predicting EQ and other disasters in his enthusiasm to

see a BIG Prediction coming true. Till date he has not predicted

anything good for India. India had no good planetary period since 1980s

when Rao began his prediction business?

 

Why then no luck is predicted and only disasters?

 

Because he knows that India cannot have any such good luck. India cannot

take a lottery ticket. Some accidental Equake is the only way to glory

for him. So he is repeating such nonsense now and then.

 

He may have predicted tragedy for Benazir at least ten times - since she

came into politics. Every year if we write that some south Asian PM is

going to die, once it may prove to be true.

 

chandra hari

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

, " panditarjun2004 "

<panditarjun2004 wrote:

>

> dear learnt fraternal friends

>

> would appreciate if specific answers are given to the following

> queries:

>

> 1. what is the basis of casting a horsocope for a PIECE OF LAND. any

> ancient scriptural sanction for casting charts of geographies.

>

> 2. was there any original chart of bharat khand that existed long

> ago. in medieval period, several kingdoms existed as mentioned in

> astrology classics too (kalyanavarma states what planet ruling which

> kingdom in his saravali) and each territory or province had their own

> kings and each kingdom has its own chart. was there any unified

> india chart earlier at all, as there were separate kingdoms based on

> geographies. of course under ashoka era, he annexed (like present

> china) all kingdoms from afghanistan and downwards.

>

> 3. after separation of pakistan, india got another chart. bangladesh

> gets another chart later. so the indian chart changed several times

> and what everyone analysing is the last modified or rectified or last

> amended in august 1947. if the original chart of thousands of years

> ago remained same and only some parts are lost and formed as separate

> countires, how come we treat india's 1947 chart as a new chart as if

> some new kingdom is born whereas in reality, this larger fatherlike

> india existed long long ago and its old original birth chart must be

> retained and the new countries formed separately can have their new

> charts.

>

> 4. dozens of states of this country too have their own formation days

> and have their own birthcharts. does india chart work in one way and

> the individual chart work another way like two different charts of a

> father and a son.

>

> 5. uttar pradesh, madhya pradesh and bihar had only one chart

> earlier. later uttarnchal, chattisgarh and jharkhand got created and

> have thier own birthtimes. so new charts of these three states are

> created. does it mean these new states are like children of the old

> states and the analysis of the old chart becomes nonapplicable to

> this new state which now got is own chart.

>

> 6. since many an astrologer are creating charts for geographies, some

> astrologers started casting horoscopes for companies aka corporate

> astrology. here too i dont know what exactly has to be reckoned

> whether the formation of the company, time of registration or time of

> commencement of manufacturing. can any astrologer casting charts of

> companies advise on this.

>

> 7. if horoscopes can be charted for geographies and corporate

> entities, can horoscopes be cast for political parties as well since

> each party must be having a formation day and then astrologers can

> start giving political party predictions as well based on the party

> birth charts.

>

> 8. in a similar debate earlier on the validity of casting horoscopes

> for animals like pet dogs and cats, some learnt astrologers opined

> that horoscopes can be cast only for humans and not animals, birds

> and trees. can horoscopes be made to all other creatures other than

> humans. does ancient scriptures mention casting charts for animals

> and birds.

>

> answers to above queries would help me understand better the way we

> cast charts of non-life entities like countries, states, companies

> and parties, and also for living creatures other than humans.

>

> with best wishes and blessings

> pandit arjun

>

> , " chandra_hari18 "

> chandra_hari18@ wrote:

> >

> >

> > India

> >

> >

> > In the case of India, it appears much worse. The New Year horoscope

> of

> > 2007 shows affliction to the lagna by both Saturn and Mars with

> benefic

> > in kendra and the best planet Jupier in the eighth house. It is a

> war

> > like situation.

> >

> > India has always to remind itself that Pakistan has made it clear

> > through actions and statements that the threat of war between these

> two

> > countries will remain until the Kashmir issue is resolved.

> >

> > The word " resolved " has two meanings as it has been since the days

> of

> > Jawaharlal Nehru. India cannot part with this piece of territory and

> > Pakistan must claim it as its or see it as an independent country.

> >

> > Though Al Quaeda may have been partly annihilated as an

> organization, it

> > is well recognized that, the Al Quaeda spirit remains unsubdued and

> will

> > keep creating waves after waves of jehadis which is a world problem

> for

> > whole of USA, Europe and a major non- Muslim country like India.

> >

> > In the middle of 2007, particularly in the month of August, Saturn

> Ketu

> > conjunction in Simha with Mars in Vrisha and Mithuna are most

> dangerous

> > potents for the safety of India and particularly the capital ,

> Delhi.

> >

> > The year in which Mars retrogrades and stays long in two rashis are

> > notable for violent incidents is what we must also remember. It is

> > worthwhile reminding ourselves about what the Hindi poet, Ghagh, an

> > excellent astrologer, had said many centuries ago.

> >

> > Jo Shani Simha karasi vasa,

> > To gardh Dilli hosi nasa

> >

> > Meaning when Saturn stays in Simha, the fort of Delhi (meaning the

> > territory and the rulers) is destroyed.

> >

> > Saturn in Simha has given enough problems to India and Indian

> government

> > both in 1949 and 1979 with the government either shaken up by the

> rush

> > of refugees or unstable governments.

> >

> > In 2007, it will be more dangerous, because it will be with Ketu and

> > aspected by Mars. In any case, the kendra positions of malefics is

> > always disturbing. In the New Year horoscope of 2007 of India all

> this

> > is happening also in the kendras.

> >

> >

> > Earthquakes

> >

> >

> > Though there has been no replicable astrological research on

> > earthquakes, all indications in 2007 are of earthquakes in India and

> > elsewhere. The city of Delhi falls now under a dangerous seismic

> belt,

> > with a prominent fault, as seismologists has pointed out running

> from

> > east Delhi towards Meerut. Delhi will in any case suffer some

> > destruction, whether it is earthquake or war.

> >

> > Can it be an indication of a terrible earthquake affecting Delhi,

> > destroying it partly or fully ?

> >

> > (Imagine the fate of people in Delhi, Trans-Yamuna area if they

> were to

> > take the prediction seriously. Astrologer says no replicable

> research on

> > Earthquakes but still he is publishing such irresponsible

> predictions to

> > Public.

> >

> > Then think over the replicable research he had on India since 1947

> and

> > the fate of the 2007 predictions. Anyone may predict anything and

> go on

> > requoting the 10% hit that anybody may make)

> >

> > chandra hari

> >

>