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Dear Neelam,

 

Please confirm the location of Baroda 1) 22N18 073E 12 = Baroda>Vadodara,

Gujarat OR 2) 25N30, 076 E 39 = Baroda, Pradash.

 

Thanking you in advance.

 

Lorraine Valente

 

 

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neelam gupta <neelamgupta07

 

Tue, 29 Apr 2008 2:07 pm

Re: Re: Let us blind chart :)

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear All,

 

Let's start then, here's the native:

 

Female: 4 April 1961/ 00.17 hrs /Baroda

 

Lets make it a freestyle exercise….use any technique, any method… but you

should be able to explain your observations logically.

 

Just repeating again, in case anyone has missed it:

 

 

 

The chart may or may not be of a famous person, it is genuine and identifiable.

 

The time and details of birth are absolutely correct.

 

It is somebody whose life details are known to me and I can vouch for the

correctness of events and their dates.

 

I'll be able to answer all queries about the findings in the chart.

 

We are trying to delineate the following points:

 

 

Looks & physical features

 

Personality traits and nature

 

Family, parents, etc

 

Siblings

 

Education

 

Profession

 

Marriage

 

Children

 

Assets like properties etc.

 

Financial Status

 

Social Status

 

Any other peculiarity

 

All the best and have fun!

 

Regards

Neelam

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Dear Lorraine

This is Baroda, Gujarat. 22N18 073E 12

Regards

Neelam

 

2008/4/30 Lorraine <FuchsiaStars:

 

> Dear Neelam,

>

> Please confirm the location of Baroda 1) 22N18 073E 12 = Baroda>Vadodara,

> Gujarat OR 2) 25N30, 076 E 39 = Baroda, Pradash.

>

> Thanking you in advance.

>

> Lorraine Valente

>

>

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dear Leeam,

I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to

request all the members of the forum that the

prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The

prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The

environment under which one is developed, the age and

the circumstances under which one is working and back

ground of the family and his status and present

position in the society play a major role to

prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these

things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data

of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala

and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%

correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do

only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the

Astrology and Brahmand till today.

These are my personal views, you are free to defer

with me.

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Hare rama krishna

dear kursija ji

 

yes we know ,but take it as fun and apply all astrological rules ,may be we may falter in extent of rise and amnt of money like this if we dont know the person

 

Treat it as academic exerscise and if u hav no worry for failures u can participate

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> dear Leeam,> I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> request all the members of the forum that the> prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> environment under which one is developed, the age and> the circumstances under which one is working and back> ground of the family and his status and present> position in the society play a major role to> prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> Astrology and Brahmand till today.> These are my personal views, you are free to defer> with me.>

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Dear All.OK, I'll tell you that the native has lived in India only in a metro city.Neelam2008/4/30 sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala:

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hare rama krishna

dear kursija ji

 

yes we know ,but take it as fun and apply all astrological rules ,may be we may falter in extent of rise and amnt of money like this if we dont know the person

 

Treat it as academic exerscise and if u hav no worry for failures u can participate

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, " S.C. Kursija " <sckursija wrote:>> dear Leeam,> I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to

> request all the members of the forum that the> prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> environment under which one is developed, the age and

> the circumstances under which one is working and back> ground of the family and his status and present> position in the society play a major role to> prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these

> things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do

> only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> Astrology and Brahmand till today.> These are my personal views, you are free to defer> with me.>

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Dear friend,

You are 100% correct. None will differ. But some may like to add a bit to what you have said - no prediction is easy. Even when Desakalapatram is known, it is difficult to predict.

For an average person it is easy if prediction means

1. You will get married. (But when? When a mother or father turns up to consult with the chart that my daughter is 27 + and nothing is fruitful.. then the average age+average delay phenomenon rescue the astrologer's prediction in some case and in others he fails.

2. You will have a kid in 1 or 1.5 years after your marriage. (no astrology is required)

3. Your longevity is fine (as long as you live)

4. You will make money (How much ? only God knows)

5. Your wife will be beautiful and kids will be very intelligent (every fool thinks so)

6. You are great but people miss your greatness - some yoga this way that way has suppressed your potential.

7. Then a set of pariharams so that the failure of the prediction can be at last attributed to something mysterious.

.... my casual thoughts..

, "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> dear Leeam,> I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> request all the members of the forum that the> prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> environment under which one is developed, the age and> the circumstances under which one is working and back> ground of the family and his status and present> position in the society play a major role to> prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> Astrology and Brahmand till today.> These are my personal views, you are free to defer> with me.>

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Dear Chandra Hari ji,

"Your wife will be beautiful and kids will be very intelligent (every fool thinks so)"

How true!!!....But women don't think that their husbands are handsome:)

blessings

Renu , "chandra_hari18" <chandra_hari18 wrote:>> > Dear friend,> > You are 100% correct. None will differ. But some may like to add a bit> to what you have said - no prediction is easy. Even when Desakalapatram> is known, it is difficult to predict.> > For an average person it is easy if prediction means> > 1. You will get married. (But when? When a mother or father turns up to> consult with the chart that my daughter is 27 + and nothing is> fruitful.. then the average age+average delay phenomenon rescue the> astrologer's prediction in some case and in others he fails.> > 2. You will have a kid in 1 or 1.5 years after your marriage. (no> astrology is required)> > 3. Your longevity is fine (as long as you live)> > 4. You will make money (How much ? only God knows)> > 5. Your wife will be beautiful and kids will be very intelligent (every> fool thinks so)> > 6. You are great but people miss your greatness - some yoga this way> that way has suppressed your potential.> > 7. Then a set of pariharams so that the failure of the prediction can be> at last attributed to something mysterious.> > ... my casual thoughts..> > > , "S.C. Kursija"> sckursija@ wrote:> >> > dear Leeam,> > I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> > request all the members of the forum that the> > prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> > prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> > environment under which one is developed, the age and> > the circumstances under which one is working and back> > ground of the family and his status and present> > position in the society play a major role to> > prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> > things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> > of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> > and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> > correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> > only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> > Astrology and Brahmand till today.> > These are my personal views, you are free to defer> > with me.> >>

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Dear Kursija ji, You are correct, but know that "nothing could give you as much confidence and trust in astrology except something like correctly predicting based on a blind chart" - a fact from astrologer's perspective. :) By the way I will give my own reading in the next mail; I request Neelam ji NOT to reveal the facts till I provide my reading; I am also much eager to participate in this exercise; but today seems to be a day with hectic work; at night I will sit back, relax and go through this chart, and will post the response tomarrow.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "S.C. Kursija" <sckursija wrote:>> dear Leeam,> I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> request all the members of the forum that the> prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> environment under which one is developed, the age and> the circumstances under which one is working and back> ground of the family and his status and present> position in the society play a major role to> prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> Astrology and Brahmand till today.> These are my personal views, you are free to defer> with me.>

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Dear Neelam ji, No details please - let it be a complete blind chart reading. Please don't reveal details even for clarification; till some very detailed readings comes.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear All.> > OK, I'll tell you that the native has lived in India only in a metro city.> > Neelam> > 2008/4/30 sunil nair astro_tellerkerala:> > > **> >> > *Hare rama krishna*> >> > *dear kursija ji *> >> > **> >> > * yes we know ,but take it as fun and apply all astrological rules ,may> > be we may falter in extent of rise and amnt of money like this if we dont> > know the person *> >> > **> >> > *Treat it as academic exerscise and if u hav no worry for failures u can> > participate *> >> > **> >> > *regrds sunil nair *> >> > *om shreem mahalaxmai namah *> >> >> > , "S.C. Kursija"> > sckursija@ wrote:> > >> > > dear Leeam,> > > I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> > > request all the members of the forum that the> > > prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> > > prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> > > environment under which one is developed, the age and> > > the circumstances under which one is working and back> > > ground of the family and his status and present> > > position in the society play a major role to> > > prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> > > things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> > > of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> > > and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> > > correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> > > only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> > > Astrology and Brahmand till today.> > > These are my personal views, you are free to defer> > > with me.> > >> > > >>

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Dear Sreenadha,

When the result is out, you may be inspired to give us some title like Chandra_Hari The Blind100, X_YThe Blind 95, A_B The blind 94 and so on as the readings may look like intellectual offsprings of blind astrologers.

To some guys you may give titles like Linda Goodman, Linda Goodwoman etc. because they have read the chart as if they are providing sunsign readings ...

chandra hari

, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear Neelam ji,> No details please - let it be a complete blind chart reading. Please> don't reveal details even for clarification; till some very detailed> readings comes.> Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "neelam gupta"> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear All.> >> > OK, I'll tell you that the native has lived in India only in a metro> city.> >> > Neelam> >> > 2008/4/30 sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@:> >> > > **> > >> > > *Hare rama krishna*> > >> > > *dear kursija ji *> > >> > > **> > >> > > * yes we know ,but take it as fun and apply all astrological rules> ,may> > > be we may falter in extent of rise and amnt of money like this if we> dont> > > know the person *> > >> > > **> > >> > > *Treat it as academic exerscise and if u hav no worry for failures u> can> > > participate *> > >> > > **> > >> > > *regrds sunil nair *> > >> > > *om shreem mahalaxmai namah *> > >> > >> > > , "S.C. Kursija"> > > sckursija@ wrote:> > > >> > > > dear Leeam,> > > > I am sorry to intervene in the thread.I would like to> > > > request all the members of the forum that the> > > > prediction of a blind chart is not an easy job.The> > > > prediction depends on the Desh, Kaala and Patra. The> > > > environment under which one is developed, the age and> > > > the circumstances under which one is working and back> > > > ground of the family and his status and present> > > > position in the society play a major role to> > > > prediction. If an astrologer does not know all these> > > > things his prediction may go wrong. So with the data> > > > of the native one should also supply the Desh, Kaala> > > > and some thing about the patra also for the 70% to 80%> > > > correct prediction. !00% correct prediction can do> > > > only Brahma, because we have limited knowledge of the> > > > Astrology and Brahmand till today.> > > > These are my personal views, you are free to defer> > > > with me.> > > >> > >> > >> >>

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Dear Friends ,Instead of doing a blind chart , can we not follow the Dymock Brose model of astrological puzzles ? He gives a chart , and four to five incidents . He also gives the date on which the incident happened in the life of native . We can discern any method of astrology to decide what was the event out of the choices given and give our astrological reasoning in writing .

Let me know . Regards ,Anand

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Dear Anand ji, Many members present in this group are REAL astrologers and there fore we are NOT interested in (useless) Post mortem analysis methods - whether supplied by some indian or European. We have our own way of learning. Hope this helps. Regards,Sreenadh , "Anand Ghurye" <anand.ghurye wrote:>> Dear Friends ,> > Instead of doing a blind chart , can we not follow the Dymock Brose model> of astrological puzzles ? He gives a chart , and four to five incidents . He> also gives the date on which the incident happened in the life of native .> We can discern any method of astrology to decide what was the event out of> the choices given and give our astrological reasoning in writing .> > Let me know .> > Regards ,> > Anand>

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