4th house and one famous chart sai 27408

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during 1955 saturn and jupiter has exalted and mars and sun moon there is every possibility of exaltation and some very ordinary life style people has mars jupiter saturn in exatation and one who know 11 5 1967 where moon sun and jupiter exaltation very low life with no job lo low income in the moern days with all eligibilitiesi could observe one old man said in a discussion if any planet exaltion and in 10th to it very powerful planets the exaltation struggle to work it is called *PARASPARA KARAGHATHVAM according to that old man and i have seen people having many and pow3erful planets in 10th house struggles in life much may be it is 8th to the 3rd house of efforts also the younger borns suffers a lot one such having mithuna lagna having sun mars mercury in meena 10th his brother died of premature accident at 30 years (moon in 4th jupiter and venus in 11th 9th saturn lagna raghu 7th kethu( march 1964)th3ere are so many factors to be

considered while discussing hors. all the better is to know some back ground and trend of hors. y could see many vips in all through for morethan 30 40 years the saturn transit 8th etc and bad dasa bukthi etc nothing affects house comforts money food clothing and all basics well taken care but all oerdinary people always worried by seeing the transits of planets in magazine predictions which very rarely suitsjust like a doctor we should know the back ground of the nativfe and trend of planets and confirm some valid incidents so that we can help out to give confidence about the next events to come thank y with regards vinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear Neelamji, Though i do not know much to hazard an opinion on this forum, i am partly in agreement with what sairamji has said. There must be others born with an exaltation of the same 3 planets, since lagna does not change for 2 hours. Of course, the vargas would change....but then one has to get into assessing the degree by degree importance in various signs....and study the divisionals...which is generally missed out in a general analyis. i do remember in some forum somebody presenting a chart with 4 exalted planets, and the native being an "ordinary" housewife. As for the Vimamsa, some charts of spiritually advanced souls is given at the following link. Maybe we could draw some conclusions from this on Amma's chart. http://lakshmikary.com/articles/vimsa.pdf The fourth house is the seat of the heart....and we know something of Amma's heart from her actions and her huge, infectious smile, don't we? Not only is Amma's Moon exalted in 8th house in D-1, it is 10th H in D-9 in the sign of Acquarius whose lord is exalted in D-1; (Sun too is exalted in D-9 in 12th house of Moksha while sign of exaltation of Moon is rising in D-9). In D-20 Moon is with Sun in 9th house in Pisces...the 12th house of the Kaala Purursha.... Besides, as already pointed out by you, Moon is in the Naksthatra of Sun and Sun is in the Nakshatra of Moon....further adding to the strenght of the luminaries. Just some stray thoughts.... Though this may be at the risk of deviating from the thread, can we also explore the importance of Saturn and Rahu-Ketu in the chart of spiritual

personages? Regards and best wishes, vinita , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sairaman ji,> > You are right. On the hindsight we get to see many things in the horoscopes.> It might be difficult to delineate ordinary charts. But not a chart like> this. With this chart> > The beauty of the chart lies in the exaltation of 3 key planets in chart i.e> the 5L, 9L and 10L in the lagna and houses of moksha 8H and 12H.> This seems to be the key to her status.> > I have no doubt about the timings also. It couldn't be anything else.> > Then as I have said, from moon and sun also the same situation is enforced.> Do you see the meaning behind it? From lagna, it is the 5-9-10 whic are> exalted. Lagna is the physical level of

existence. Here it is not about the> physicality, but the being and his sanchit, prarabdh and karma that work for> her.> > But from moon and sun, the lagna lord is also exalted. Thus establishing the> exalted status of her manas and atman.> > The involvement of luminaries in the unique yogas make this chart special.> > I have not got into the sun/moon yogas or other yogas. We'll find plenty of> them here.> > All these things make this chart unique and you won't find such placements> easily. If you have why don't you send them in the forum.> > Regards> > Neelam> > > > If you read my opening sentence, that itself will tell you how difficult it> will be to find such a person and who still maintains an ordinary status.> > 2008/4/27 sairam nat sairaman53:> > > Thank y very much for good

learning of hors. by neelamgupta> >> > all points well explained and acceptable in general terms> >> > there is lot ot learn and to understand> >> > HOW3EVER ................PLS DO NOT MISTAKE ME FOR THE FOLLOWING> >> > --------the background is well known to all the person is identified and> > with that background everythingis explained> >> > when nothing is known and can all similar hors.of people born in> > same place time date can be explained in similar fashion> >> > all the more if the same hor. is given in blind chart to narrate the> > background and life style of the person how many could have passed> > successfuly> >> > if we come across any such person with similar hor. having known his> > bad life style it may be explained that 10th lord in 8th 4th raghu mars>

> venus combination etc etc .......> >> > what can be guidelines for hors. of achievers and vips and very> > ordinary as thre are millions of people very very few or vips and great> > persons mostly ordinary persons> >> > in every family there can be many gajaswekari yogas vipareetha raja> > yogs etc ....no doubt there is some improvements not to the extend of such> > great persons like Ma.. Anantha maye> >> > every one has some raja and dhana yogas what is the quantity 1000 lakh> > or crores or how many crores> >> > there shall be some research in this line in the modern day context as> > there are somany fields in education employment etc etc .....> >> >> > we should go in for very similarr or identitical hors,. and find the> > results> >> > in our family also many twins

as per traditional line no difference> > at all but complegte life is absolutely different where is the answer i am> > unable to provide and convince them> >> > as the planets stay on for many days in same houses and conditions and> > the lagna runas for nearly 2 hours many many can be born in very identitical> > conditions> >> > as such with little known like a doctor it seems possible to elaborate> > and that too after coming to a ripe stage in life and not definitely about> > 20 to 30 years earlier in life> >> > i could see peniless people with out job and status in the present day> > market with wounderful horoscopes and that is the frustration i am writing> > like this> >> > pls forgive me if i am wrong anywhere> >> > i am everyday facing friends and relatives with best hors. and

ordinary> > life styles> >> > however the science of astrology gives boost and hopes in life no doubt> >> > thank y with my best regards once again for giving opporotunity to go> > through nice reading of a good horoscope with valid good points> >> >> >> > thank y Sir> >> > SAIRAMAN 27 TH APRIL 8 29 AM>

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