Concept of Bhava Vargottama

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Dear All, Me too reject the concept of 'Bhava vargottama' - based on the clear guideline put forward by Pandit ji. To quote his own words - "This makes a assumption that bhavas exist in divisions. The reason I say it as assumption is that there are quite a few who do not think bhavas should be used in divisions". Yes, I am one among those who think that Divisions (Amsas) are of Signs and NOT Bhavas. Thus there DOES NOT and CANNOT exist something called Bhava vargottama because the very word Vargottama points to "DIVISION assigned to a SIGN falling it it own SIGN itself"; The concept of Bhava is IRRELEVENT here. Thus I second Chandra hari ji, Madhav ji and Pandit ji in this regard and is of the opinian that Goal ji's words are absolute rebbish without proper understanding of the view of ancient classics in this regard. I Chandra hari puts is me too will call it only as "Goel distortions" or may be possibly as "SJC distortion".Regards,Sreenadh , "vrajleela" <vrajleela wrote:

Re: Concept of Vargottama

Dear membersI have already said that there exists a processor which is old and corrupted, and I also warned that it should be thrown into dustbin but not recycle bin and if neglected it will lead to radiation hazard. Now you can see, it already started showing its effects in the name of Bhava Vargottama I agree with Chandra Hariji totally, this is absolute stupidity in the name of research and discussion.Sushka Vaadamyah sastra vidhim utsrjya vartate kaama kaaratah |na sa siddhim avaapnoti na sukham na paraam gatim || Bhagavat Gita 16.23Purport: He who discards scriptural injunctions and acts according to his own whims attains neither perfection, nor happiness, nor the supreme destinationJai JaiminiJai VarahamihiraJairadhe> , "chandra_hari18"> chandra_hari18@ wrote:> >> >> > Dear Sri Goel,> >> > You are talking absolute rubbish with such discoveries like> > 'Bhava-vargottama'. Is it your product or of some Guru of yours? Those> > who make spurious creations in Jyotisha are bound to fall in hell.> > Beware of 'grahas' - they can doom those who ill-serve Jyotisha.> >> > There is a limit for even nonsense and you have exceeded even that in> > making such distortions and placing it before public.> >> > I know some sattvic people in the group will be hurt by my harsh> words.> > I don't care that when such people are not affected by the Goel> > distortions.> >> > chandra hari> >> >> >> >> > , Gopal Goel> > gkgoel1937@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > > The concept of Vargottama is considered in following manner:> > > �> > > 1.When ever any planet in same bhava , irrespective of sign is> called> > Bhava Vargottama.> > > If, Ketu is in 3H in D-1 AND D-3 , it will promote and give co-borns> > > Example:� Male:25.11.1973,8.46.24AM,Delhi> > > Ketu is in 7H ind-1 and d-9 charts . the native was married in Ketu> > dasa.> > > 2. If same sign is rising in two Vargas , then these two vargas are> > called Vargottama� varga.> > > If ascending signs in these vargas are aspected by number of> > planets� ,it gives� rajyoga concerning these vardgas.> > > � � � 3 Similarly ,if Moon is VARGOTTAMA� i.e> occupying> > same sign in two vargas , then they will� be called Moon> VARGOTTAMA> > CHARTS> > > 4� When ever any planet is in same� sign in two vargas ,> its is> > called sign vargottama,> > > � Notes:> > > a. If a planet is sign Vargottama it� become auspicious and> give> > good results> > > b, Bava vargottama shows the connectivity in two vargas,say planet> is> > bava vargottama� in D-9 and D-10.> > > It shows native's profession will flourish due to his skills and> > spouse.> > > Regards,> > > � G.K.GOEL> > > Ph: 09350311433> > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > INDIA> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep@> > > > > > Wednesday, 23 April, 2008 10:46:20 PM> > > Re: PUSKAR NAVAMSA> > >> > >> > > Namaste Goel Ji and Sreeram ji> > >> > > One comment regarding Bhava Vargottama.Any planet can be in a so> > > called ''Bhava Vargottama'' if and only if Lagna is Vargottama.> > >> > > Thus it is Lagna, or a planet that can be in Vargottama.> > >> > > Please give your comments.> > >> > > Regds> > > Pradeep> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "sreeram> srinivas"> > > sreeram64@ ..> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Namaste Mr. Goel ji,> > > >> > > > Kindly tell us about> > > >> > > > 1) Bhava Vargottama> > > >> > > > 2) Sign Vargottama> > > >> > > > to my knowledge, read about Vargottama, i.e. Sign Vargottam { i.e.> > > > Planets in Singing mode} in the classical hindu astrology.> > > >> > > > //This is the reason ,if exalted planet is lord of 6H,8H and 12H ,> > > THE> > > > NATIVE IS PLACED IN IMMENSE DIFFICULTIES. //> > > >> > > > Further, I have cases, where people have raised to greater heights> > > > during the dasha of 6H & 8H exalted Lords. Can share few cases,> > > that I> > > > came across.> > > >> > > > //When ever a planet is placed in the signs of Natural Benefic> > > Planets> > > > ...... Drekkana charts , these planets//> > > >> > > >> > > > Goel Saab, kindly tell us the importance of Drekkana in a chart on> > > >> > > > 1) What is importance of Drekkana> > > >> > > > 2) How it is to be used> > > >> > > > 3) How and What can be interpreted from it> > > >> > > > With regards,> > > >> > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Bring your gang together. Do your thing. Find your favourite > > group at http://in.promos./groups/> > >> >>