Make_Your_Own_Horoscope_Saturn

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Dear member,

 

Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,

to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??

You need to also tell us, why you want it to placed in that house. {

Just a merry go around - discussion}

 

Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in a

sequence.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, " pashu_sanju "

<pashu_sanju wrote:

>

> Namaskar,

> Nairji,

> I read this thread in other " group " , which contained urs response. In

> one such reply u said following:

>

> {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the

> property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The

> relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He

> will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his

> vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a

> ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)

>

>

> I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to

> him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)

> Birth data given below:

> DoB:5/8/1966

> ToB:16-10 Hrs

> Place: Gwalior

>

> Please explain.

> Regards,

> Sanjeev

>

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Dear Members:. If I may, let me start this game. I have taken liberty in choosing the Asc also. For a capricorn ASc, would like saturn to be at Li 19 deg 55 in Swati Nak, 4 pada. LL and 2L will be exhalted and in the 10th and friendly house.Swati Nak Lord is Rahu who is also a co-compadre of saturn. It will also be in Puskara Nav ending up in Pisces NAV.If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn would be Aq,1 NAV.Regards,anantha krishnansreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear

member, Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma, to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ?? You need to also tell us, why you want it to placed in that house. { Just a merry go around - discussion} Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in a sequence. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , "pashu_sanju" <pashu_sanju wrote: > > Namaskar, > Nairji, > I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In > one such reply u said following: > > {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the > property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The > relative may talk bad abt him or he

will cause bad name for them .He > will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his > vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a > ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI) > > > I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to > him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned) > Birth data given below: > DoB:5/8/1966 > ToB:16-10 Hrs > Place: Gwalior > > Please explain. > Regards, > Sanjeev >

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Sir I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because we believe astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth even parents since parents are only medium. Regards Mk Viswanatsreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear member,Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??You need to also tell us, why you

want it to placed in that house. {Just a merry go around - discussion}Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in asequence.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivas , "pashu_sanju"<pashu_sanju wrote:>> Namaskar,> Nairji,> I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In> one such reply u said following:>> {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his> vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a> ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED

FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)>>> I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to> him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> Birth data given below:> DoB:5/8/1966> ToB:16-10 Hrs> Place: Gwalior>> Please explain.> Regards,> Sanjeev>

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Sree MK Viswanath.. Namaskar!First, Mr. Sreenivas was asking a Hypothetical and Reasonable question. Which place you like to offer to dreaded shanidev.Second, Mr. Sreenivas did not say that we can pick our own horoscope in reality. We all understand that we cannot pick our own. To this, every body agrees with you...NOW.... if you wish to participate in this discussion--- Lets assume that Bramhadeva gives you a chance- which of your Kundali house you offer to Shanideva?Please take this in light heart...Raj Upadhrasta.****--- On Thu, 4/24/08, MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair wrote:MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nairRe:

Make_Your_Own_Horoscope_Saturn Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 7:42 AM

 

Sir I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because we believe astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth even parents since parents are only medium. Regards Mk Viswanatsreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote: Dear member,Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??You need to also tell us, why you

want it to placed in that house. {Just a merry go around - discussion}Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in asequence.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivasancient_indian_ astrology, "pashu_sanju"<pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote:>> Namaskar,> Nairji,> I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In> one such reply u said following:>> {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his> vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as

a> ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED

FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)>>> I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to> him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> Birth data given below:> DoB:5/8/1966> ToB:16-10 Hrs> Place: Gwalior>> Please explain.> Regards,> Sanjeev> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India.

 

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Dear Sreeramji,I would offer my 10th House to Shanideva, irrespective of Lagna. If other possibilities were offerred, I would Like Cancer Lagna and ask for Mangal too in the same 10th house... so that I can become Leader of Soldiers.Raj Upadhrasta.***--- On Thu, 4/24/08, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote:sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 Make_Your_Own_Horoscope_Saturn Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 6:34 AM

 

 

Dear member,

 

Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,

to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??

You need to also tell us, why you want it to placed in that house. {

Just a merry go around - discussion}

 

Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in a

sequence.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, "pashu_sanju"

<pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote:

>

> Namaskar,

> Nairji,

> I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In

> one such reply u said following:

>

> {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the

> property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The

> relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He

> will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his

> vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a

> ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)

>

>

> I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to

> him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)

> Birth data given below:

> DoB:5/8/1966

> ToB:16-10 Hrs

> Place: Gwalior

>

> Please explain.

> Regards,

> Sanjeev

>

 

 

 

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Pranam Saab Thanks for your mail and understand your wisdom along the lines of your mail. One thing we should understand is that we should try to learn astrology in the forum and not to try to bring about foolish and funny issues which does not serve any purpose for astro-fraternity. I, with all the politeness and humblessness at my command, as an astro-student, treat these messages are like FTP (full time pass). If one is sincere, let him share his astro experience and try to help the forum members. Definitely they will be treated with high esteem. Regards Mk Viswanat Raj Upadhrasta <suryanayaka wrote: Sree MK Viswanath.. Namaskar!First, Mr. Sreenivas was asking a Hypothetical and Reasonable question. Which place you like to offer to dreaded shanidev.Second, Mr. Sreenivas did not say that we can pick our own horoscope in reality. We all understand that we cannot pick our own. To this, every body agrees with you...NOW.... if you wish to participate in this discussion--- Lets assume that Bramhadeva gives you a chance- which of your Kundali house you offer to Shanideva?Please take this in light heart...Raj Upadhrasta.****--- On Thu, 4/24/08, MK Viswanat

<astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair (AT) (DOT) co.in>Re: Make_Your_Own_Horoscope_Saturn Date: Thursday, April 24, 2008, 7:42 AM Sir I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because we believe astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth even parents since parents are only medium. Regards Mk Viswanatsreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote: Dear member,Let us start a new thread on this.

Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??You need to also tell us, why you want it to placed in that house. {Just a merry go around - discussion}Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in asequence.With regards,Sreeram_Srinivasancient_indian_ astrology, "pashu_sanju"<pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote:>> Namaskar,> Nairji,> I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In> one such reply u said following:>> {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> will cause sorrow for

father and mother,his will loose his house ,his> vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a> ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)>>> I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to> him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> Birth data given below:> DoB:5/8/1966> ToB:16-10 Hrs> Place: Gwalior>> Please explain.> Regards,> Sanjeev> From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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Dear Mr. Anantha Krishnan ji,

//If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn would be Aq,1 NAV//

Sreeram Comment: To your saturn, I would put 8HL Mars with it to upset your Saturn !! Trying to play God here....!! to spoil your wish list !!

Anantha ji, you have not stated your reason when you stated your choice.....would like to know it......for me to make few comments what you would lose should you intend to go with your choice...

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear Members:> . > If I may, let me start this game. I have taken liberty in choosing the Asc also. For a capricorn ASc, would like saturn to be at Li 19 deg 55 in Swati Nak, 4 pada. LL and 2L will be exhalted and in the 10th and friendly house.> Swati Nak Lord is Rahu who is also a co-compadre of saturn. It will also be in Puskara Nav ending up in Pisces NAV.> If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn would be Aq,1 NAV.> Regards,> anantha krishnan>

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Dear Viswanat ji,

 

I agree to your point, here the thread is only to stimulate given a

chance of choosing your own hororscope, even then - there is NOTHING

like a ideal hororscope and every combination has its " pound of

negatives " inherent....

 

It is small exercise that to bring realization on those who are happy or

unhappy with their horoscopes

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, MK Viswanat

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

>

> Sir

>

> I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because we

believe astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth even

parents since parents are only medium.

>

> Regards

> Mk Viswanat

>

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Namaste Raj Upadhrasta ji,

In the given scenario, you would end up Leader of Soldiers with poor sense of judgement and prone to mistakes !!!

I would put Moon in 6H i.e. Gemini Sign to complicate things for you !!!?? !! Hypothetically - playing God for a moment.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

Dear Sreeramji,I would offer my 10th House to Shanideva, irrespective of Lagna. If other possibilities were offerred, I would Like Cancer Lagna and ask for Mangal too in the same 10th house... so that I can become Leader of Soldiers.Raj Upadhrasta.

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Dear Srinivas ji,

 

Namaste,

 

That's very tricky!! For this we need to outsmart Brahmaji. Brahmaji will

say, take Shani Dev wherever you want as long as you abide by the rule of

the srishti... you have to suffer or enjoy your karmas…

 

Like the proverbial Savitri…we'll be stuck…what to do then? How'll the

desired placement help us? We can't do everything with Shani maharaj alone.

And what if he comes to stay in the house desired by us but there are other

forces (planets) out on war with him? If we get him to be a yogkarak and

brahma ji does not bless his dasha at the right time? My lagna or moon may

be weak / afflicted to let me enjoy the fruits…and then the age, if age is

not on my side, what will shani maharaj do?

 

Brahmaji!!! Help… so many ifs and buts…

 

I'd rather leave this privilege with Brahma ji and let him place Shani

Maharaj anywhere he likes, but will ask him to give me a meaningful life

with good karmas and strength to suffer previous karmas.

 

Regards

 

Neelam

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Dear Mr. Viswanat ji,

 

1) This is the only group which takes astrology seriously { can add

another group also but for lack of leadership/guiding role there}....see

the archives.....it is all knowledge only

 

2) Knowing Left & Righ hander is surely a idle and meaningless exercise

that people have been participating, in which you were also interested

and shared a bit in that topic, but there these observations are NOT

mentioned..... either afraid of that " lunatic guru " there or some self

interest there ?? .... anyway still not much time lost, to post your

observations even now.....should it be case of over sight...

 

3) Probably, you were not aware why this thread started by me, for to

bring a realization amongst the members, that there is NO ideal

hororscope. Watch this thread... you may likely change opinion.

 

4) Can you analyse why Mr. Raj Upadrashta ji's preference to Saturn &

Mars in 10H for Cancer Lagna, should make him a Leader of Soldiers ??

Why Not Leader of Masses ?? Is it possbile for a Cancer sign to think

on those lines ??

 

Would wait for your astro_comments......on the above.....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, MK Viswanat

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

>

> Pranam Saab

>

> Thanks for your mail and understand your wisdom along the lines of

your mail.

> One thing we should understand is that we should try to learn

astrology in the forum and not to try to bring about foolish and funny

issues which does not serve any purpose for astro-fraternity.

>

> I, with all the politeness and humblessness at my command, as an

astro-student, treat these messages are like FTP (full time pass).

>

> If one is sincere, let him share his astro experience and try to help

the forum members. Definitely they will be treated with high esteem.

>

> Regards

> Mk Viswanat

>

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Namaste madam ji,

 

You hit the bullseye..... just started this thread to make people

realize that there is 50% good and bad in every placement that you may

choose voluntarily.... Lord Brahma still wields to play spoil sport in

the vargas...... just follow the karma.....pre-ordained by the God.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Srinivas ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> That's very tricky!! For this we need to outsmart Brahmaji. Brahmaji

will

> say, take Shani Dev wherever you want as long as you abide by the rule

of

> the srishti... you have to suffer or enjoy your karmas…

>

> Like the proverbial Savitri…we'll be stuck…what to do then?

How'll the

> desired placement help us? We can't do everything with Shani maharaj

alone.

> And what if he comes to stay in the house desired by us but there are

other

> forces (planets) out on war with him? If we get him to be a yogkarak

and

> brahma ji does not bless his dasha at the right time? My lagna or moon

may

> be weak / afflicted to let me enjoy the fruits…and then the age,

if age is

> not on my side, what will shani maharaj do?

>

> Brahmaji!!! Help… so many ifs and buts…

>

> I'd rather leave this privilege with Brahma ji and let him place Shani

> Maharaj anywhere he likes, but will ask him to give me a meaningful

life

> with good karmas and strength to suffer previous karmas.

>

> Regards

>

> Neelam

>

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Sir I agree with the point that "left handed native" is a miscellaneous item. But even in the horoscope chart given by me has got left handed people and they are justified. But the rule specified is not sufficient enough to justify it. Merely saying 3rd lord in 10th does not constitute left handedness. But it will work in some cases and not in all cases. Why? Let us expore it. My view point is only about subject and its high level, and definitely not aimed at an individual. If the forum has to grow in quality and not in quantity, it should be captained by a senior person and who should control everyone, lead every one, participate and encourage research work. Many points brought out by many did not have any follow up, and those points disappeared into thin air. If the objective of the forum is to

educate members and promote astrology, one should be constructive. In the subject brought out by your esteemed side, let me make my humble opinion that there cannot be any ideal horoscope. Every action has got its equal and opposite reaction. Every positive house has got a negative house. Mere placement of Saturn in 4th (as our friend Mr. Nair says) or merely Jupiter in 10th exalted does not make a horscope elited. See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer. 5th lord Moon (putra sthana athipathi) in Asc aspected by exalted Jupiter (putra karaka). This is called rashi parivartana maha bhagya yoga. Then why he lost all the children before him. Some attribute it to "karako bhava nashya". Is this point correct? Definitely not. If one succeeds in one side, he fails in

another. Merely throwing questions or merely crticising is just simple. But we need positive, sincere and broad minded approach to promote astrology. Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to understand it, rather than working on fantacies. With all the respect I have for the Astroworld and our members, Kind regards MK Viswanat sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear

Viswanat ji,I agree to your point, here the thread is only to stimulate given achance of choosing your own hororscope, even then - there is NOTHINGlike a ideal hororscope and every combination has its "pound ofnegatives" inherent....It is small exercise that to bring realization on those who are happy orunhappy with their horoscopesWith regards,Sreeram_Srinivas , MK Viswanat<astrologervishy_nair wrote:>> Sir>> I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because webelieve astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth evenparents since parents are only medium.>> Regards> Mk Viswanat>

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Dear Mr. Vishwanat ji,

 

//If the forum has to grow in quality and not in quantity, it should be

captained by a senior person and who should control everyone, lead every

one, participate and encourage research work.//

 

Can you dare to post this in other ?? where you are

active ?? Truly, you do not want me to list out the groups with

details...

 

 

// Many points brought out by many did not have any follow up, and those

points disappeared into thin air//

 

This happens in other . We in this group, started thread

and ended it logically. Show me a case in this group.

 

//See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer//

 

Can you share the birth data of Mr. Tagore ?? We will able to comment

more. Many of us do not have that data.

 

 

// Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to

understand it, rather than working on fantacies//

 

But you are equally present in fantasy group and participating !!! i.e.

that " Lunatic_Group " where out of 4000 emails, 50% of them are of

moderators-2nos. only !! Has 7-8 moderators. Moderator cannot read a

single chart on his own, without help of his stooges. NO astro

content...yet you are happy there....

 

As for the lack of charts as examples..... I think we should ask all

our rishis and sages this question of WHY they have not included

it.......

 

This group has better policies implemented than any other....... 80% of

this group messages have astro content......many of them with references

to astro_classics or derivatives of that...... Can you show me ANY

other group ?? so, selective gospel teaching is NOT welcomed....

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

 

, MK Viswanat

<astrologervishy_nair wrote:

>

> Sir

>

>

>

> If the objective of the forum is to educate members and promote

astrology, one should be constructive.

>

> In the subject brought out by your esteemed side, let me make my

humble opinion that there cannot be any ideal horoscope. Every action

has got its equal and opposite reaction. Every positive house has got a

negative house.

> Mere placement of Saturn in 4th (as our friend Mr. Nair says) or

merely Jupiter in 10th exalted does not make a horscope elited.

>

> See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer. 5th

lord Moon (putra sthana athipathi) in Asc aspected by exalted Jupiter

(putra karaka). This is called rashi parivartana maha bhagya yoga. Then

why he lost all the children before him. Some attribute it to " karako

bhava nashya " . Is this point correct? Definitely not.

>

> If one succeeds in one side, he fails in another. Merely throwing

questions or merely crticising is just simple. But we need positive,

sincere and broad minded approach to promote astrology.

>

> Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to

understand it, rather than working on fantacies.

>

> With all the respect I have for the Astroworld and our members,

>

> Kind regards

> MK Viswanat

>

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Hare rama krishna

dear vishy nair

u write in some other grp that sani in 4th house may giv some below dignity jobs (But onething I could say that when Sat aspects 10th house, it indicates littlelow profile in profession (unless Jupiter is connected).)

Then how u dare to utter this even without any classical back up to support ur case

When Sat is placed in 4th, the remedy isthat you need to take care of yourmother.RegardsMK Viswanat

Here also u utter same non sense ,why do u recommend remedy if sani is good ??

can u illuminate me half century into astrology astrologer ??

Stop personal jealousies and practise what u preach ,a nursery question to be answered in nursery level not with a write up of full vedic principles and no discussion is unilateral like a tutorial ,it has to evolve only dont b a fool to expect others will spend their time and will educate ur half century nonsense astrology brain

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah.

 

 

, MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair wrote:>> Sir> > I agree with the point that "left handed native" is a miscellaneous item. But even in the horoscope chart given by me has got left handed people and they are justified. But the rule specified is not sufficient enough to justify it. Merely saying 3rd lord in 10th does not constitute left handedness. But it will work in some cases and not in all cases. Why? Let us expore it.> > My view point is only about subject and its high level, and definitely not aimed at an individual.> > If the forum has to grow in quality and not in quantity, it should be captained by a senior person and who should control everyone, lead every one, participate and encourage research work.> > Many points brought out by many did not have any follow up, and those points disappeared into thin air.> > If the objective of the forum is to educate members and promote astrology, one should be constructive.> > In the subject brought out by your esteemed side, let me make my humble opinion that there cannot be any ideal horoscope. Every action has got its equal and opposite reaction. Every positive house has got a negative house.> Mere placement of Saturn in 4th (as our friend Mr. Nair says) or merely Jupiter in 10th exalted does not make a horscope elited.> > See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer. 5th lord Moon (putra sthana athipathi) in Asc aspected by exalted Jupiter (putra karaka). This is called rashi parivartana maha bhagya yoga. Then why he lost all the children before him. Some attribute it to "karako bhava nashya". Is this point correct? Definitely not. > > If one succeeds in one side, he fails in another. Merely throwing questions or merely crticising is just simple. But we need positive, sincere and broad minded approach to promote astrology.> > Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to understand it, rather than working on fantacies.> > With all the respect I have for the Astroworld and our members,> > Kind regards> MK Viswanat

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Dear Viswanath ji, May be you are wrong. :=) It is the people who look in to the subjuct (and their innovative vision) more important than the subject itself. Even in trash you can find pearls (useful and innovative info) if one is enough intelligent and innovative. Actually if Srinivas ji or any other member in this group has any such thing to share why should we show the sour face in the beginning itself? Note: If not to search and prepare new wine from the old stuff known as ancient astrology - why we are here?!! So the total exercise is clearly in tune with the aim of the group. It is platform where people share their vision and learn to defend and corroborate their logical arguments with supportive evidence (thus learning to be research minded); Yes, this IS the path! Take any subject (how ever irrelevant and small), but if someone can present new and innovative understanding about the same based on old info; if someone can breach the horizons of "normal thinking" based on old info - definitely this is what required and we are in search of such talents. Hope you see the point. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , MK Viswanat <astrologervishy_nair wrote:>> Pranam Saab> > Thanks for your mail and understand your wisdom along the lines of your mail.> One thing we should understand is that we should try to learn astrology in the forum and not to try to bring about foolish and funny issues which does not serve any purpose for astro-fraternity.> > I, with all the politeness and humblessness at my command, as an astro-student, treat these messages are like FTP (full time pass).> > If one is sincere, let him share his astro experience and try to help the forum members. Definitely they will be treated with high esteem.> > Regards > Mk Viswanat> > Raj Upadhrasta suryanayaka wrote:> Sree MK Viswanath.. > Namaskar!> > First, Mr. Sreenivas was asking a Hypothetical and Reasonable question. Which place you like to offer to dreaded shanidev.> > Second, Mr. Sreenivas did not say that we can pick our own horoscope in reality. We all understand that we cannot pick our own. To this, every body agrees with you...> > NOW.... if you wish to participate in this discussion--- Lets assume that Bramhadeva gives you a chance- which of your Kundali house you offer to Shanideva?> > Please take this in light heart...> > Raj Upadhrasta.> > ****> > --- On Thu, 4/24/08, MK Viswanat astrologervishy_nair wrote:> MK Viswanat astrologervishy_nair Re: Make_Your_Own_Horoscope_Saturn> > Thursday, April 24, 2008, 7:42 AM> > > Sir> > I think Mr. Sriram Srinivas is having fun with astrology. Because we believe astrology is karma based and no one can dictate his birth even parents since parents are only medium.> > Regards> Mk Viswanat> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:> > Dear member,> > Let us start a new thread on this. Given a chance by the Lord Brahma,> to choose your own horoscope. Where will you like your Saturn to be ??> You need to also tell us, why you want it to placed in that house. {> Just a merry go around - discussion}> > Let us first start with Saturn and then carry on with other planets in a> sequence.> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "pashu_sanju"> <pashu_sanju@ ...> wrote:> >> > Namaskar,> > Nairji,> > I read this thread in other "group", which contained urs response. In> > one such reply u said following:> >> > {if some one has sani in 4th house (sukha stana) he will lose the> > property ,money and houses given by father or he cant enjoy it .The> > relative may talk bad abt him or he will cause bad name for them .He> > will cause sorrow for father and mother,his will loose his house ,his> > vehicles and livestock also get destroyed .And he may end up as a> > ruematic patient .} (U QUOTED FROM CHAMATKAR CHINTAMANI)> >> >> > I have one chart which has shani in 4H, but none of above happened to> > him.(Shani is not lagnesh for him, an exception u mentioned)> > Birth data given below:> > DoB:5/8/1966> > ToB:16-10 Hrs> > Place: Gwalior> >> > Please explain.> > Regards,> > Sanjeev> >> > > > > > > > From Chandigarh to Chennai - find friends all over India. > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. > > > > > > Get the freedom to save as many mails as you wish. Click here to know how.>

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Dear Neelam ji,==>I'd rather leave this privilege with Brahma ji and let him place ShaniMaharaj anywhere he likes, but will ask him to give me a meaningful lifewith good karmas and strength to suffer previous karmas.<== Beautifully said!!!Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Srinivas ji,> > Namaste,> > That's very tricky!! For this we need to outsmart Brahmaji. Brahmaji will> say, take Shani Dev wherever you want as long as you abide by the rule of> the srishti... you have to suffer or enjoy your karmas?> > Like the proverbial Savitri?we'll be stuck?what to do then? How'll the> desired placement help us? We can't do everything with Shani maharaj alone.> And what if he comes to stay in the house desired by us but there are other> forces (planets) out on war with him? If we get him to be a yogkarak and> brahma ji does not bless his dasha at the right time? My lagna or moon may> be weak / afflicted to let me enjoy the fruits?and then the age, if age is> not on my side, what will shani maharaj do?> > Brahmaji!!! Help? so many ifs and buts?> > I'd rather leave this privilege with Brahma ji and let him place Shani> Maharaj anywhere he likes, but will ask him to give me a meaningful life> with good karmas and strength to suffer previous karmas.> > Regards> > Neelam>

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Dear Srinivas ji, Let us avoid the 'other group' bashing and 'lunatic' bashing; it does not deserve it. Since we in this group has more worthy things to do - let us keep our mind clean, dedicated to the subject under discussion; providing value addition. Should we go for a discussion of such other groups and lunatics when we have other things to do? Apart from the fact that the said lunatic tried to spam this group several times (and got banned as a result) - why should we be concerned about things happening outside this group at all? Hope you see the point - such an exercise is not worth our time and effort. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Mr. Vishwanat ji,> > //If the forum has to grow in quality and not in quantity, it should be> captained by a senior person and who should control everyone, lead every> one, participate and encourage research work.//> > Can you dare to post this in other ?? where you are> active ?? Truly, you do not want me to list out the groups with> details...> > > // Many points brought out by many did not have any follow up, and those> points disappeared into thin air//> > This happens in other . We in this group, started thread> and ended it logically. Show me a case in this group.> > //See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer//> > Can you share the birth data of Mr. Tagore ?? We will able to comment> more. Many of us do not have that data.> > > // Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to> understand it, rather than working on fantacies//> > But you are equally present in fantasy group and participating !!! i.e.> that "Lunatic_Group" where out of 4000 emails, 50% of them are of> moderators-2nos. only !! Has 7-8 moderators. Moderator cannot read a> single chart on his own, without help of his stooges. NO astro> content...yet you are happy there....> > As for the lack of charts as examples..... I think we should ask all> our rishis and sages this question of WHY they have not included> it.......> > This group has better policies implemented than any other....... 80% of> this group messages have astro content......many of them with references> to astro_classics or derivatives of that...... Can you show me ANY> other group ?? so, selective gospel teaching is NOT welcomed....> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > , MK Viswanat> astrologervishy_nair@ wrote:> >> > Sir> >> >> >> > If the objective of the forum is to educate members and promote> astrology, one should be constructive.> >> > In the subject brought out by your esteemed side, let me make my> humble opinion that there cannot be any ideal horoscope. Every action> has got its equal and opposite reaction. Every positive house has got a> negative house.> > Mere placement of Saturn in 4th (as our friend Mr. Nair says) or> merely Jupiter in 10th exalted does not make a horscope elited.> >> > See the chart of Tagore. Asc lord exalted in 5th house in Cancer. 5th> lord Moon (putra sthana athipathi) in Asc aspected by exalted Jupiter> (putra karaka). This is called rashi parivartana maha bhagya yoga. Then> why he lost all the children before him. Some attribute it to "karako> bhava nashya". Is this point correct? Definitely not.> >> > If one succeeds in one side, he fails in another. Merely throwing> questions or merely crticising is just simple. But we need positive,> sincere and broad minded approach to promote astrology.> >> > Let us drive ourselves into these type of intricacies and try to> understand it, rather than working on fantacies.> >> > With all the respect I have for the Astroworld and our members,> >> > Kind regards> > MK Viswanat> >>

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Dear Mr. Sreenivas Ji:The best place for a planet to be in its own house, next best choice would be its exhalted place (if different) and the last best choice would be in a friendly house.Saturn in Aq is least disadvantageous under different ASc scenarios without considering, aspects from other planets. e.g. Aries Asc, it will be 10 and 11th Lord in the 11th house- both are OK. For Ta ASc, it will be 9 and 10th in the 10th-that is fine too. So on and so forth. So once decided on the rasi, I thought I would go for 1 Nav so that saturn will be exhalted in NAV.Regards,Anantha Krishnansreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Mr. Anantha Krishnan ji, //If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn would be Aq,1 NAV// Sreeram Comment: To your saturn, I would put 8HL Mars with it to upset your Saturn !! Trying to play God here....!! to spoil your wish list !! Anantha ji, you have not stated your reason when you stated your choice.....would like to know it......for me to make few comments what you would lose should you intend to go with your choice... With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear Members:> . > If I may, let me start this

game. I have taken liberty in choosing the Asc also. For a capricorn ASc, would like saturn to be at Li 19 deg 55 in Swati Nak, 4 pada. LL and 2L will be exhalted and in the 10th and friendly house.> Swati Nak Lord is Rahu who is also a co-compadre of saturn. It will also be in Puskara Nav ending up in Pisces NAV.> If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn would be Aq,1 NAV.> Regards,> anantha krishnan>

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Dear friends,

 

Looking at the best place of planets in terms of own house and

exaltation may not be the right approach.

 

Planets need not be in own house or exaltation, to give best results.

Rasi is a 30 degree classification and there can be potential degrees

for planets about which we don't know. But we know that planets in

houses other than own and exalt gives wonderful results in many cases.

 

chandra hari

 

 

 

 

, Anantha Krishnan

<anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:

>

> Dear Mr. Sreenivas Ji:

> The best place for a planet to be in its own house, next best choice

would be its exhalted place (if different) and the last best choice

would be in a friendly house.

> Saturn in Aq is least disadvantageous under different ASc scenarios

without considering, aspects from other planets. e.g. Aries Asc, it will

be 10 and 11th Lord in the 11th house- both are OK. For Ta ASc, it will

be 9 and 10th in the 10th-that is fine too. So on and so forth. So once

decided on the rasi, I thought I would go for 1 Nav so that saturn will

be exhalted in NAV.

> Regards,

> Anantha Krishnan

>

> sreeram srinivas sreeram64 wrote:

> Dear Mr. Anantha Krishnan ji,

> //If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn

would be Aq,1 NAV//

> Sreeram Comment: To your saturn, I would put 8HL Mars with it to upset

your Saturn !! Trying to play God here....!! to spoil your wish list !!

> Anantha ji, you have not stated your reason when you stated your

choice.....would like to know it......for me to make few comments what

you would lose should you intend to go with your choice...

> With regards,

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> , Anantha Krishnan

anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:

> >

> > Dear Members:

> > .

> > If I may, let me start this game. I have taken liberty in choosing

the Asc also. For a capricorn ASc, would like saturn to be at

> Li 19 deg 55 in Swati Nak, 4 pada. LL and 2L will be exhalted and in

the 10th and friendly house.

> > Swati Nak Lord is Rahu who is also a co-compadre of saturn. It will

also be in Puskara Nav ending up in Pisces NAV.

> > If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn

would be Aq,1 NAV.

> > Regards,

> > anantha krishnan

> >

>

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Dear Chandra hari, That was a scientific and systematic response considering the true posibilities of special degrees and vargas. Beautifully said!Love and regards,Sreenadh , "chandra_hari18" <chandra_hari18 wrote:>> > Dear friends,> > Looking at the best place of planets in terms of own house and> exaltation may not be the right approach.> > Planets need not be in own house or exaltation, to give best results.> Rasi is a 30 degree classification and there can be potential degrees> for planets about which we don't know. But we know that planets in> houses other than own and exalt gives wonderful results in many cases.> > chandra hari> > > > > , Anantha Krishnan> anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:> >> > Dear Mr. Sreenivas Ji:> > The best place for a planet to be in its own house, next best choice> would be its exhalted place (if different) and the last best choice> would be in a friendly house.> > Saturn in Aq is least disadvantageous under different ASc scenarios> without considering, aspects from other planets. e.g. Aries Asc, it will> be 10 and 11th Lord in the 11th house- both are OK. For Ta ASc, it will> be 9 and 10th in the 10th-that is fine too. So on and so forth. So once> decided on the rasi, I thought I would go for 1 Nav so that saturn will> be exhalted in NAV.> > Regards,> > Anantha Krishnan> >> > sreeram srinivas sreeram64@ wrote:> > Dear Mr. Anantha Krishnan ji,> > //If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn> would be Aq,1 NAV//> > Sreeram Comment: To your saturn, I would put 8HL Mars with it to upset> your Saturn !! Trying to play God here....!! to spoil your wish list !!> > Anantha ji, you have not stated your reason when you stated your> choice.....would like to know it......for me to make few comments what> you would lose should you intend to go with your choice...> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> >> > , Anantha Krishnan> anantha_krishnan_98@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Members:> > > .> > > If I may, let me start this game. I have taken liberty in choosing> the Asc also. For a capricorn ASc, would like saturn to be at> > Li 19 deg 55 in Swati Nak, 4 pada. LL and 2L will be exhalted and in> the 10th and friendly house.> > > Swati Nak Lord is Rahu who is also a co-compadre of saturn. It will> also be in Puskara Nav ending up in Pisces NAV.> > > If I do not have a choice in Asc, then my preference for saturn> would be Aq,1 NAV.> > > Regards,> > > anantha krishnan> > >> >>