Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Renu ji, Suni ji,That was a good example. But the correctness of birth data of public figures is always doubtful. I feel this may not be a correct birth time. Since lagna degrees are near the borderline...if we take pisces as lagna, I guess we may come closer to what he is… 9H of dharma holds 11L (foreignness) Saturn, 8L venus (loss of dharma) and a debilitated moon. Explains how a Christian Solomon Bhandarnaike became a Buddhist to camouflage his pro-Christian, anti-Hindu and anti-Tamil policies. How he became a puppet in the foreign hands! More or less, it was like Apartheid in South Africa. In 1956, the Sri Lankan government brought the Sinhala Only Act (which declared Sinhala to be the only official language) and Tamilians were relegated to second position. They introduced the standardisation theory. That insisted that a Tamil child should have 60 per cent marks while for Sinhalese children, 35 per cent was enough to get admissions in colleges. In 1957, the Sri Lankan government entered into two agreements with Tamils, before the ink could dry the agreement was thrown into the dustbin by Bhandarnaike. The armed struggle of Tamil youth is the contribution of the Sinhala government's racist attitude the foundation of which was laid by Solomon Bhandarnaike. 10H has a digbali sun (bhagya lord of 10H and karmlord of 9H) giving a strong rajyog in 4-10 with 4th and 7th lord mercury in rahu/ketu axis – a perfect combination for political rise. Exchange of trikona lords but LL lord gone to 8H and 5/9 lords debilitated: Explains how he had the bhagya and poorv janm support to rise yet with certain preconditions which he could not even sustain and had a medium life that met a sudden end.We can have other opinions on this.Regards Neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear All,How a debilitated mars in transit will behave? 29th april to 21 June (deep debilitation at 28 degrees on 17-18 June) is the period under scrutiny. Let us take the example of Hillary Clinton who already has a debilitated mars in 2H with Saturn. Mars for is the malefic 6/11 lord, debilitated in 2H with 8L/9L Saturn. It afflicts her 2L, 5H, 8H and 9H. HAving gained strength in navamsh, this mars, apparantly has not deprived her of its significations. So far she has not got her mars MD, but the Mars antars have mostly got unnoticed for her as short phases. Jupiter's benefic aspect on the mars-saturn conjunction has been her saviour in some of the difficult situations…like monica episode.There are 27 SAV points in cancer hence the current transit is not likely to give very auspicious results. Mars has contributed only 3 benefic bindus. There is no benefic aspect on this transit and no rajyogas being formed. Thought of applying the transits to her Sarvatobhadra Chakra, which was revealing: (may be excused for any error in application) Mars being in pushya and Saturn in magha:Her popular name letter – h, has two malefic vedhas, from mars and Saturn. Name swar is O which has one malefic vedha from Mars Name tithi is Jaya, which again has a malefic vedha from Saturn Janam tara is Ubhad, which has no vedha Janm rashi pisces again has a malefic vedha from mars. According to results given in Phaldeepika: If out of the five, i.e., name, swar, tithi, tara and rashi, there is malefic vedha on: One: difficulty, troubled-mind Two: Fear Three: Losses Four: Sickness Five: Death or death-like situationEffects of 5 vedhas separately: Name-vedha – losses Tara vedha – trouble by deception of thoughts, ruffled mind Swar-vedha – losses Tithi vedha – Fear Rashi vedha – Major troubleIf all five come under malefic vedha, the native may not survive. Vedha by mars causes financial loss and by Saturn causes sickness and pain. A vedha by rahu-ketu gives obstructions and roadblocks We see that four of the five critical points are having malefic vedhas and most of them by a debilitated mars, and there is no benefic vedha. Do we see a problem with her? Can we predict difficulties for her in this period? In the wake of ongoing elections, do we see her sliding down in this period, facing troubles and obstructions? Is there also sickness, litigations and financial loss, mars being 6/11 lord?? There is status quo for her from 29th april to 27th May. RegardsNeelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear friend, We can predict to Hillary that something will be bad and the rest fine. Astrology shall have the win irrespective of her loss or win. If she moves to White House, we can claim that she lost her domestic peace and the private moments and family happiness with Bill. If she is doomed by Obama in elections, we can say that 'Her family won'. Astrology is a game of logic. When we don't know to see Rasi chart and Vargas properly, we are going to Sarvatobhadra Chakra and reading Panchavedha to predict. Is there anything that can be clearly predicted from her Rasi chart? Tell clearly whether she is going to win? Don't beat around the bush and give results of 5 Vedhas. It is meaningless. None can decide whether she is having a tooth ache or not? How she is fighting with Bill and the rest of her life to decide whether the Vedha effects are ok. Only thing that will be known to the external world is her win or loss. Predict that if possible. Astrology has enough Chakras and so called 8-Vargas to justify anything and fool the public and astrologer's thinking. Whenever I see chart I find an idiot sitting in my brain to devise arguments to justify both + and _ which could not have been judged with clarity earlier. chandra hari , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear All, > > How a debilitated mars in transit will behave? 29th april to 21 June (deep > debilitation at 28 degrees on 17-18 June) is the period under scrutiny. > > Let us take the example of Hillary Clinton who already has a debilitated > mars in 2H with Saturn. Mars for is the malefic 6/11 lord, debilitated in 2H > with 8L/9L Saturn. It afflicts her 2L, 5H, 8H and 9H. HAving gained strength > in navamsh, this mars, apparantly has not deprived her of its > significations. > > So far she has not got her mars MD, but the Mars antars have mostly got > unnoticed for her as short phases. Jupiter's benefic aspect on the > mars-saturn conjunction has been her saviour in some of the difficult > situations…like monica episode. > > There are 27 SAV points in cancer hence the current transit is not likely to > give very auspicious results. Mars has contributed only 3 benefic bindus. > There is no benefic aspect on this transit and no rajyogas being formed. > > Thought of applying the transits to her Sarvatobhadra Chakra, which was > revealing: > (may be excused for any error in application) > > Mars being in pushya and Saturn in magha: > > - Her popular name letter – h, has two malefic vedhas, from mars and > Saturn. > - Name swar is O which has one malefic vedha from Mars > - Name tithi is Jaya, which again has a malefic vedha from Saturn > - Janam tara is Ubhad, which has no vedha > - Janm rashi pisces again has a malefic vedha from mars. > > According to results given in Phaldeepika: > > If out of the five, i.e., name, swar, tithi, tara and rashi, there is > malefic vedha on: > > - One: difficulty, troubled-mind > - Two: Fear > - Three: Losses > - Four: Sickness > - Five: Death or death-like situation > > Effects of 5 vedhas separately: > > - Name-vedha – losses > - Tara vedha – trouble by deception of thoughts, ruffled mind > - Swar-vedha – losses > - Tithi vedha – Fear > - Rashi vedha – Major trouble > > If all five come under malefic vedha, the native may not survive. > > Vedha by mars causes financial loss and by Saturn causes sickness and pain. > A vedha by rahu-ketu gives obstructions and roadblocks > > We see that four of the five critical points are having malefic vedhas and > most of them by a debilitated mars, and there is no benefic vedha. > Do we see a problem with her? > > Can we predict difficulties for her in this period? In the wake of ongoing > elections, do we see her sliding down in this period, facing troubles and > obstructions? > Is there also sickness, litigations and financial loss, mars being 6/11 > lord?? > > There is status quo for her from 29th april to 27th May. > > > Regards > > Neelam > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, "But the correctness of birth data of public figures is always doubtful. I feel this may not be a correct birth time. Since lagna degrees are near the borderline..." Thanks for your response madam, but his lagna is correct. Even if birth time differs it would not make a difference of couple of minutes here or there but not the lagna. "They introduced the standardisation theory. That insisted that a Tamil child should have 60 per cent marks while for Sinhalese children, 35 per cent was enough to get admissions in colleges. " Madam, I hate to talk politics as it is definitely not the path to 'nirvana' or moksha and now I doubt whether astrolgoy too is a path to moksha???????? Anyway you are mistaken with the figures here. Standardisation was introduced to limit the number of university admissions from shcools in developed cities thus giving more opportunity to students in rural areas with less educational facilities irrespective of whether it was in North or in South. This did create a problem for students who passed well from popular schools in popular areas irrespective of their race, relgion or caste. Even I a Sinhalese Buddhist was a vicitm of standardisation being schooled in a popular Colombo school. If I got the same average, from a rural area, Mannar, Batticaloa, Badulla, Nuwaraeliya....I would have got the opportunity to enter a local university. There were so many Sinhalese students who were victims of standardisation. It was absolutely NOT based on any race. The elite Tamil students went to posh schools like St. Bridgettes Convent, Royal College, St. Thomasas College etc. situated in Colombo and dwelled among the Sinhalese in harmony. "The armed struggle of Tamil youth is the contribution of the Sinhala government's racistattitude the foundation of which was laid by Solomon Bhandarnaike." May be the foundation was laid by SWRD Badaranaike for his selfish reasons to gain power. A major cause for armed struggle of Tamil youth was the caste discrimination suffered by those who are labled as lower class people in Jaffna. The same was the cause for 1971 JVP outcome, the caste discrimination suffered by some sectors of the society in the South. That was the root cause. The struggle was between the HAVES AND THE HAVE NOTS AND NOT AMONG RACES. There is nothing against Hinduism or Tamils. Most of the top jobs are held by Tamil professionals in Sri Lanka, even in the government sector. Unbiased, statesman like Lakshman Kadiragamar was ruthlessly killed by so called struggling Tamil youths. I am sorry to bring this out. But hatred will not lead us anywhere. Only through love hatred can be conquered. War is not the path to peace. Whether Tamil or Sinhalese thousands of innocent lives are been sacrificed daily to keep the light burning for the chosen Sinhala & Tamil politicians. I may have strayed away from astrology...... but I thought astrologers do genuinely seek the path to 'moksha' through astrology and do not be biased/affected by any racial issues brought out by less evolved sectors of the society. It should be their duty to lessen such unhealthy attitudes among mankind and show them there is nothing and no one called 'I' or 'We' in this world. Thanks once again for your analysis which I appreciate very much. blessings Renu , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji, Suni ji,> > That was a good example.> > But the correctness of birth data of public figures is always doubtful. I> feel this may not be a correct birth time. Since lagna degrees are near the> borderline...> > if we take pisces as lagna, I guess we may come closer to what he is…> > 9H of dharma holds 11L (foreignness) Saturn, 8L venus (loss of dharma) and a> debilitated moon. Explains how a Christian Solomon Bhandarnaike became a> Buddhist to camouflage his pro-Christian, anti-Hindu and anti-Tamil> policies. How he became a puppet in the foreign hands! More or less, it was> like Apartheid in South Africa. In 1956, the Sri Lankan government brought> the Sinhala Only Act (which declared Sinhala to be the only official> language) and Tamilians were relegated to second position. They introduced> the standardisation theory. That insisted that a Tamil child should have 60> per cent marks while for Sinhalese children, 35 per cent was enough to get> admissions in colleges. In 1957, the Sri Lankan government entered into two> agreements with Tamils, before the ink could dry the agreement was thrown> into the dustbin by Bhandarnaike. The armed struggle of Tamil youth is the> contribution of the Sinhala government's racist> attitude the foundation of which was laid by Solomon Bhandarnaike.> > 10H has a digbali sun (bhagya lord of 10H and karmlord of 9H) giving a> strong rajyog in 4-10 with 4th and 7th lord mercury in rahu/ketu axis – a> perfect combination for political rise.> > Exchange of trikona lords but LL lord gone to 8H and 5/9 lords debilitated:> Explains how he had the bhagya and poorv janm support to rise yet with> certain preconditions which he could not even sustain and had a medium life> that met a sudden end.> > We can have other opinions on this.> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > On 16/04/2008, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala wrote:> >> > **> >> > *Hare rama krishna *> >> > *dear renu ji *> >> > **> >> > * Thanxs for the quick reply .*> >> > **> >> > *As regrds to time correction i asked is ther is any time adjustment> > happened after independence or some thing Like that .*> >> > *As regrds to his assassination till today i was thinking it was a budist> > monk ,even medias are spreading this kind of false news .I rarely find> > budhist monks fanatic .Even while i chat with some western frnds who follows> > eastern religions they always says u can find a budhist monk always smiling> > than a hindu sanyasi .*> >> > **> >> > *yes may be his policies are back firing now as polititions always look> > for sudden and immdiate future only .*> >> > **> >> > *That is the curse of a democracy i always feel .*> >> >> >> > *thanxs and regrds *> >> > *sunil anir *> >> > **> >> >> > , "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sunil ji,> > >> > > Yes, you are correct...that was the chart of Sir S. W. R. D.> > > Bandaranaike....and thanks for the quick response. I posted this as it> > > is related to the current topic....only.> > >> > > do u know is it was his first marriage or is there was any disparity or> > > anything regrds to marriage ?? or a major delay ??,> > >> > > He had only one marriage and there is no rumour involving as to my> > > knowledge regarding infidelity from his side....though there had been> > > some talk regarding his wife...But then one cannot accurately say that> > > these are true when politics is involved. He got married in 1940...hence> > > you can say it was a late marriage.> > >> > > .also mars in conct with sani in 10th after the exchnge of effect it is> > > resulting in agnimaruta yoga in 10th house involving Lagna Lord ,12th L> > > ( sat ) and Mars the 10th Lord .Involving the 4th and 9th Lord venus (> > > is involvement of 9th Lord of dharma was the reason he was assassinated> > > by a budhist monk ????and one of the reason for cause of death is also> > > problems in mother land as its also 4th lord )> > >> > > He was assassinated by someone who pretended to be a Buddhist monk and> > > not by a true Buddhist monk. [Yet, even if the assassin was a Buddhist> > > monk...I would not call him so since Buddhism is not a religion and by> > > taking another living beings life, the 1st precept of 'pancha seela' was> > > broken]. Anyway the link to 9L of dharma may explain this. He was born> > > to Anglican parents but changed his religion to Buddhism to enter into> > > politics. His 'Sinhala' only policy which won the votes of the working> > > class is the main cause of communal SL's current communal problems.> > >> > > also is time needs any correction ??> > >> > > I cannot exactly say that this is 100% accurate....but there cannot be a> > > major discrepancy regarding birth time.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Neelam ji, It is really interesting to see the depths you have gone to analyse this chart. But, unfortunately, there is a lot of debate on the correctness of the birth time for her. Most astrologers believe that 8am (Libra lagna) is most appropriate. Hmmm... I wonder how a similar analysis looks if one uses Libra lagna... Regards, Krishnaneelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear All,How a debilitated mars in transit will behave? 29th april to 21 June (deep debilitation at 28 degrees on 17-18 June) is the period under scrutiny. Let us take the example of Hillary Clinton who already has a debilitated mars in 2H with Saturn. Mars for is the malefic 6/11 lord, debilitated in 2H with 8L/9L Saturn. It afflicts her 2L, 5H, 8H and 9H. HAving gained strength in navamsh, this mars, apparantly has not deprived her of its significations. So far she has not got her mars MD, but the Mars antars have mostly got unnoticed for her as short phases. Jupiter's benefic aspect on the mars-saturn conjunction has been her saviour in some of the difficult situations…like monica episode. There are 27 SAV points in cancer hence the current transit is not likely to give very auspicious results. Mars has contributed only 3 benefic bindus. There is no benefic aspect on this transit and no rajyogas being formed. Thought of applying the transits to her Sarvatobhadra Chakra, which was revealing: (may be excused for any error in application) Mars being in pushya and Saturn in magha: Her popular name letter – h, has two malefic vedhas, from mars and Saturn. Name swar is O which has one malefic vedha from Mars Name tithi is Jaya, which again has a malefic vedha from Saturn Janam tara is Ubhad, which has no vedha Janm rashi pisces again has a malefic vedha from mars. According to results given in Phaldeepika: If out of the five, i.e., name, swar, tithi, tara and rashi, there is malefic vedha on: One: difficulty, troubled-mind Two: Fear Three: Losses Four: Sickness Five: Death or death-like situationEffects of 5 vedhas separately: Name-vedha – losses Tara vedha – trouble by deception of thoughts, ruffled mind Swar-vedha – losses Tithi vedha – Fear Rashi vedha – Major troubleIf all five come under malefic vedha, the native may not survive. Vedha by mars causes financial loss and by Saturn causes sickness and pain. A vedha by rahu-ketu gives obstructions and roadblocks We see that four of the five critical points are having malefic vedhas and most of them by a debilitated mars, and there is no benefic vedha. Do we see a problem with her? Can we predict difficulties for her in this period? In the wake of ongoing elections, do we see her sliding down in this period, facing troubles and obstructions? Is there also sickness, litigations and financial loss, mars being 6/11 lord?? There is status quo for her from 29th april to 27th May. RegardsNeelam Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Neelamji and Renuji, Despite the details available of Hillary, why the astrologers are not sure of Lagna? Can't we decide whether she has the features of Budha in her (dominant) or of Venus? or between Gemini and Libra her lagna cannot be decided? What then is astrology? If one is not sure of birth lagna, why do we go into discussing Kuchera data? In no other science spurious data is used for research. Hillary's photo, Law education, Legal luminary by profession, First lady of white house, ... astrologers are not sure of Lagna! What a joke astrology is? chandra hari , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > " But the correctness of birth data of public figures is always doubtful. > I feel this may not be a correct birth time. Since lagna degrees are > near the borderline... " > > Thanks for your response madam, but his lagna is correct. Even if birth > time differs it would not make a difference of couple of minutes here or > there but not the lagna. > > " They introduced the standardisation theory. That insisted that a Tamil > child should have 60 per cent marks while for Sinhalese children, 35 per > cent was enough to get admissions in colleges. " > > Madam, I hate to talk politics as it is definitely not the path to > 'nirvana' or moksha and now I doubt whether astrolgoy too is a path to > moksha???????? > > Anyway you are mistaken with the figures here. Standardisation was > introduced to limit the number of university admissions from shcools in > developed cities thus giving more opportunity to students in rural areas > with less educational facilities irrespective of whether it was in North > or in South. This did create a problem for students who passed well from > popular schools in popular areas irrespective of their race, relgion or > caste. Even I a Sinhalese Buddhist was a vicitm of standardisation being > schooled in a popular Colombo school. If I got the same average, from a > rural area, Mannar, Batticaloa, Badulla, Nuwaraeliya....I would have got > the opportunity to enter a local university. There were so many > Sinhalese students who were victims of standardisation. It was > absolutely NOT based on any race. The elite Tamil students went to posh > schools like St. Bridgettes Convent, Royal College, St. Thomasas College > etc. situated in Colombo and dwelled among the Sinhalese in harmony. > > " The armed struggle of Tamil youth is the contribution of the Sinhala > government's racist > attitude the foundation of which was laid by Solomon Bhandarnaike. " > > May be the foundation was laid by SWRD Badaranaike for his selfish > reasons to gain power. > > A major cause for armed struggle of Tamil youth was the caste > discrimination suffered by those who are labled as lower class people in > Jaffna. The same was the cause for 1971 JVP outcome, the caste > discrimination suffered by some sectors of the society in the South. > That was the root cause. The struggle was between the HAVES AND THE > HAVE NOTS AND NOT AMONG RACES. There is nothing against Hinduism or > Tamils. Most of the top jobs are held by Tamil professionals in Sri > Lanka, even in the government sector. Unbiased, statesman like Lakshman > Kadiragamar was ruthlessly killed by so called struggling Tamil youths. > > I am sorry to bring this out. But hatred will not lead us anywhere. Only > through love hatred can be conquered. War is not the path to peace. > Whether Tamil or Sinhalese thousands of innocent lives are been > sacrificed daily to keep the light burning for the chosen Sinhala & > Tamil politicians. > > I may have strayed away from astrology...... but I thought astrologers > do genuinely seek the path to 'moksha' through astrology and do not be > biased/affected by any racial issues brought out by less evolved sectors > of the society. It should be their duty to lessen such unhealthy > attitudes among mankind and show them there is nothing and no one called > 'I' or 'We' in this world. > > Thanks once again for your analysis which I appreciate very much. > > blessings > > Renu > > > > > > , " neelam gupta " > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > Dear Renu ji, Suni ji, > > > > That was a good example. > > > > But the correctness of birth data of public figures is always > doubtful. I > > feel this may not be a correct birth time. Since lagna degrees are > near the > > borderline... > > > > if we take pisces as lagna, I guess we may come closer to what he > is… > > > > 9H of dharma holds 11L (foreignness) Saturn, 8L venus (loss of dharma) > and a > > debilitated moon. Explains how a Christian Solomon Bhandarnaike became > a > > Buddhist to camouflage his pro-Christian, anti-Hindu and anti-Tamil > > policies. How he became a puppet in the foreign hands! More or less, > it was > > like Apartheid in South Africa. In 1956, the Sri Lankan government > brought > > the Sinhala Only Act (which declared Sinhala to be the only official > > language) and Tamilians were relegated to second position. They > introduced > > the standardisation theory. That insisted that a Tamil child should > have 60 > > per cent marks while for Sinhalese children, 35 per cent was enough to > get > > admissions in colleges. In 1957, the Sri Lankan government entered > into two > > agreements with Tamils, before the ink could dry the agreement was > thrown > > into the dustbin by Bhandarnaike. The armed struggle of Tamil youth is > the > > contribution of the Sinhala government's racist > > attitude the foundation of which was laid by Solomon Bhandarnaike. > > > > 10H has a digbali sun (bhagya lord of 10H and karmlord of 9H) giving a > > strong rajyog in 4-10 with 4th and 7th lord mercury in rahu/ketu axis > – a > > perfect combination for political rise. > > > > Exchange of trikona lords but LL lord gone to 8H and 5/9 lords > debilitated: > > Explains how he had the bhagya and poorv janm support to rise yet with > > certain preconditions which he could not even sustain and had a medium > life > > that met a sudden end. > > > > We can have other opinions on this. > > > > Regards > > Neelam > > > > > > > > > > On 16/04/2008, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *Hare rama krishna * > > > > > > *dear renu ji * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > * Thanxs for the quick reply .* > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *As regrds to time correction i asked is ther is any time adjustment > > > happened after independence or some thing Like that .* > > > > > > *As regrds to his assassination till today i was thinking it was a > budist > > > monk ,even medias are spreading this kind of false news .I rarely > find > > > budhist monks fanatic .Even while i chat with some western frnds who > follows > > > eastern religions they always says u can find a budhist monk always > smiling > > > than a hindu sanyasi .* > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *yes may be his policies are back firing now as polititions always > look > > > for sudden and immdiate future only .* > > > > > > ** > > > > > > *That is the curse of a democracy i always feel .* > > > > > > > > > > > > *thanxs and regrds * > > > > > > *sunil anir * > > > > > > ** > > > > > > > > > , " renunw " renunw@ > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil ji, > > > > > > > > Yes, you are correct...that was the chart of Sir S. W. R. D. > > > > Bandaranaike....and thanks for the quick response. I posted this > as it > > > > is related to the current topic....only. > > > > > > > > do u know is it was his first marriage or is there was any > disparity or > > > > anything regrds to marriage ?? or a major delay ??, > > > > > > > > He had only one marriage and there is no rumour involving as to my > > > > knowledge regarding infidelity from his side....though there had > been > > > > some talk regarding his wife...But then one cannot accurately say > that > > > > these are true when politics is involved. He got married in > 1940...hence > > > > you can say it was a late marriage. > > > > > > > > .also mars in conct with sani in 10th after the exchnge of effect > it is > > > > resulting in agnimaruta yoga in 10th house involving Lagna Lord > ,12th L > > > > ( sat ) and Mars the 10th Lord .Involving the 4th and 9th Lord > venus ( > > > > is involvement of 9th Lord of dharma was the reason he was > assassinated > > > > by a budhist monk ????and one of the reason for cause of death is > also > > > > problems in mother land as its also 4th lord ) > > > > > > > > He was assassinated by someone who pretended to be a Buddhist monk > and > > > > not by a true Buddhist monk. [Yet, even if the assassin was a > Buddhist > > > > monk...I would not call him so since Buddhism is not a religion > and by > > > > taking another living beings life, the 1st precept of 'pancha > seela' was > > > > broken]. Anyway the link to 9L of dharma may explain this. He was > born > > > > to Anglican parents but changed his religion to Buddhism to enter > into > > > > politics. His 'Sinhala' only policy which won the votes of the > working > > > > class is the main cause of communal SL's current communal > problems. > > > > > > > > also is time needs any correction ?? > > > > > > > > I cannot exactly say that this is 100% accurate....but there > cannot be a > > > > major discrepancy regarding birth time. > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2008 Report Share Posted April 16, 2008 Dear Chandra Hariji You are very right, we should study a horoscope with reliable data like birth time, query time etc or sun chart (the percentage of predictability decreases correspondingly) Well said Hope got the point Jairadhe chandra_hari18 <chandra_hari18 Wednesday, 16 April, 2008 9:19:28 PM Re: mars & moon debilitate Dear Neelamji and Renuji, Despite the details available of Hillary, why the astrologers are not sure of Lagna? Can't we decide whether she has the features of Budha in her (dominant) or of Venus? or between Gemini and Libra her lagna cannot be decided? What then is astrology? If one is not sure of birth lagna, why do we go into discussing Kuchera data? In no other science spurious data is used for research. Hillary's photo, Law education, Legal luminary by profession, First lady of white house, ... astrologers are not sure of Lagna! What a joke astrology is? chandra hari Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Dear Sreeram ji, You always come out with some wise thought.. " My submission is that when Time is Good, anything you attempt would turn gold.....so reverse of it is also true......When Time is bad, anything you attempt would turn into ashes... " ....and this is why people basically go to astrologers...to find out good times and bad times.. blessings Renu , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste Mr. Chandra ji, > > Why blame astrology for individual's lack of decision ?? So far, of all > the posting that I have seen in any other group, the members in this > group has been more forthcoming on their use of birth data, with > possible technical explanations. i.e. specific reference is made for > Ms. Renu & Ms. Neelam. > > I know many others use internet data where the veracity of birth data > posed is unknown, yet many postulations are made to prove their > theories. > > Recently, an internet famous was using a south Indian cinema actor's, > birth data, unknown to any one i.e. commoners like us, and makes > predictions, later drum beats it, when the predictions are nothing > spectacular - for he himself mentions big IF, ....the dasha is OK or > good, then polictics is ok... > > My submission is that when Time is Good, anything you attempt would turn > gold.....so reverse of it is also true......When Time is bad, anything > you attempt would turn into ashes... > > So, everytime raising high pitch on astrology is incorrect and strongly > disagree on that... > > Give credence to those also who give take time to respond with > technicals.... one can keep continuously pricking on use of words....but > you also know any use of words is a limiting of an expression...... > > Other people also have equally high moral grounds, ....but they have > been modest....does not mean they are weak or lost in arguments.....it > is their quality and innate good nature....kindly acknowledge it.... > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > , " chandra_hari18 " > <chandra_hari18@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Neelamji and Renuji, > > > > Despite the details available of Hillary, why the astrologers are not > > sure of Lagna? Can't we decide whether she has the features of Budha > in > > her (dominant) or of Venus? or between Gemini and Libra her lagna > cannot > > be decided? > > > > What then is astrology? If one is not sure of birth lagna, why do we > go > > into discussing Kuchera data? In no other science spurious data is > used > > for research. > > > > Hillary's photo, Law education, Legal luminary by profession, First > lady > > of white house, ... astrologers are not sure of Lagna! What a joke > > astrology is? > > > > chandra hari > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Namaste madam, 1) Can only attribute it to ignorance........ 2) There are some, who inspite of their knowledge believe they can fight planets with few colorful stones ardoning their fingers would suffice 3) So we have a " Jyotish Remedies " group also.... Sometimes, I " feel " , like in stock markets, where the buyer & seller both think & feel that they are doing the most intelligent things....when they trade shares..... Same felling may also be there in those who consult and give advices in astrology i.e. Consulter = happy he has done the right thing for future planning, Astrologer = happy he has given the best advice..... Inbetween, many of them forget the God.....which is single point of all unhappiness !! Which our Mr. Chandra Hari....keeps pointing out in his Hair Raising mails Hope you now agree with me...as I continue to score again....!!??!! With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " renunw " <renunw wrote: > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > You always come out with some wise thought.. > > " My submission is that when Time is Good, anything you attempt would > turn gold.....so reverse of it is also true......When Time is bad, > anything you attempt would turn into ashes... " > > ...and this is why people basically go to astrologers...to find out > good times and bad times.. > > blessings > > Renu > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2008 Report Share Posted April 17, 2008 Dear Sreeram ji, " Inbetween, many of them forget the God.....which is single point of all unhappiness !! Which our Mr. Chandra Hari....keeps pointing out in his Hair Raising mails " I was thoroughly enjoying the little 'combat' between Chandra Hariji & Neelam ji since both contributed something valuable to my rather empty knowledge bank. I like Chandra Hari ji's sarcasam and at the same time respect Neelam ji's diplomacy Two different way of giving the message... Then you took over the batting and as usual " continues to score again " .....passing the message through humour & talent in juggling of words... Wonder if anyone is capable to send you a googly! blessings Renu , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste madam, > > 1) Can only attribute it to ignorance........ > > 2) There are some, who inspite of their knowledge believe they can fight > planets with few colorful stones ardoning their fingers would suffice > > 3) So we have a " Jyotish Remedies " group also.... > > Sometimes, I " feel " , like in stock markets, where the buyer & seller > both think & feel that they are doing the most intelligent > things....when they trade shares..... > > Same felling may also be there in those who consult and give advices in > astrology i.e. Consulter = happy he has done the right thing for future > planning, Astrologer = happy he has given the best advice..... > > Inbetween, many of them forget the God.....which is single point of all > unhappiness !! Which our Mr. Chandra Hari....keeps pointing out in his > Hair Raising mails > > Hope you now agree with me...as I continue to score again....!!??!! > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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