Re:Bhava nasha karo Jeeva , Bhava vriddhi karau Shani

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Dear Friends,

This dictum is slightly misunderstood. I MAY LIKE TO GIVE MY VIEWS:

1. Word Nasho is a Sanskrit word which , in nutshell , means that one gets the

results but does not reap the benefit from it.

Kindly consult any Sanskrit Dictionary.

2. Whenever Jupiter occupies a Bhava , person becomes indifferent to the traits

of that house, naturally the signification of that house

suffers

3 Saturn's placement of any house activate the signification of the house , thus

person put utmost efforts ,and

finally gains.

4. In the nativities , this dictum predominantly operative if Jupiter and Saturn

exchange the signs.

5. In transit , this dictum works very well.

Regards,

 

 

G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998

 

Sunday, 9 March, 2008 9:34:38 PM

Re: Re: 5H_Saturn....Rare case...Addendum

Mr. Krishna

 

Dear Nameisego ji,

 

Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also heard about

" Karakao bhava naashya.. " , hence the confusion.

 

Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that Jupiter destroys

the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house it occupies. Do you think it

is applicable to all charts or is there a rider or something else to look for

before applying the dictum? And, should we look at Rasi chart or Bhava chart to

apply this dictum? I am asking this question because Jupiter changes house in my

Bhava chart. Please clarify.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

 

nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Mr. Krishna

 

Where did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?

 

The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani: "

clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits

and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Nameisego ji,

>

> I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th

house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father.

Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for

father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't understand how this

can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> nameisego <nameisego@. ..> wrote:

> Dear Krishnaji,

>

> The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic

> rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that.

> In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was

done.

> The woman carried the child all along.

>

> I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this

> jathaka has Guru in 9th.

> I do follow the dictum, " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva "

>

> TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.

>

> One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.

> And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)

>

> Be blessed

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nameiego ji,

> >

> > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow

> instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before.

> Thanks for sharing.

> >

> > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's

> father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed

> that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took

> place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the

> father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi

> (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is

> also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.

> >

> > Also, I did not understand what is TBOMK.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> :

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Good Day Mr. Goel,

 

What you have written below is interesting

and certainly brand new to me so I would like to make sure I really understand

what you are saying.

 

Am I to assume that when I see Jupiter in

any natal chart, the house that it is sitting in and the signification of that

house suffers? Saturn’s placement is opposite.

 

Am I really understanding this? If Jupiter

was in the third house the relationship with younger siblings would suffer? If

in the 8th house there may be no interest in metaphysics?

 

Thank you for considering my simple questions.

 

Phyllis

 

 

 

 

 

sohamsa [sohamsa ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel

April 15, 2008 3:53 AM

 

Cc: vedic astrology ;

sohamsa

Re:Bhava nasha

karo Jeeva , Bhava vriddhi karau Shani

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Dear

Friends,

This

dictum is slightly misunderstood. I MAY LIKE TO GIVE MY VIEWS:

1. Word

Nasho is a Sanskrit word which , in nutshell , means that one gets the results

but does not reap the benefit from it.

Kindly consult any Sanskrit Dictionary.

2.

Whenever Jupiter occupies a Bhava , person becomes indifferent to the traits of

that house, naturally the signification of that house

 

suffers

3

Saturn's placement of any house activate the signification of the house , thus

person put utmost efforts ,and

finally

gains.

4. In the

nativities , this dictum predominantly operative if Jupiter and Saturn exchange

the signs.

5. In

transit , this dictum works very well.

Regards,

 

 

 

 

G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

 

 

----- Original Message

----

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 >

 

Sunday, 9 March, 2008 9:34:38 PM

Re: Re: 5H_Saturn....Rare

case...Addendum Mr. Krishna

 

 

Dear Nameisego ji,

 

 

 

 

 

Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also heard

about " Karakao bhava naashya.. " , hence the confusion.

 

 

 

 

 

Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that Jupiter

destroys the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house it occupies. Do you

think it is applicable to all charts or is there a rider or something else to

look for before applying the dictum? And, should we look at Rasi chart or Bhava

chart to apply this dictum? I am asking this question because Jupiter changes

house in my Bhava chart. Please clarify.

 

 

 

Regards,

 

 

Krishna

 

 

 

 

nameisego

<nameisego > wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Krishna

 

Where did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?

 

The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani: "

clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits

and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

ancient_indian_

astrology, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Nameisego ji,

>

> I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th

house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father.

Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for

father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't understand how this

can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> nameisego <nameisego@. ..> wrote:

> Dear Krishnaji,

>

> The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic

> rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that.

> In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was

done.

> The woman carried the child all along.

>

> I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this

> jathaka has Guru in 9th.

> I do follow the dictum, " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva "

>

> TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.

>

> One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.

> And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)

>

> Be blessed

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> ancient_indian_

astrology, Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nameiego ji,

> >

> > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow

> instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before.

> Thanks for sharing.

> >

> > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's

> father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed

> that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took

> place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the

> father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi

> (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is

> also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.

> >

> > Also, I did not understand what is TBOMK.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> :

> >

>

>

>

>

>

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Good Day Mr. Goel,

 

 

 

What you have written below is interesting and certainly brand new to me so

I would like to make sure I really understand what you are saying.

 

 

 

Am I to assume that when I see Jupiter in any natal chart, the house that it

is sitting in and the signification of that house suffers? Saturn's

placement is opposite.

 

 

 

Am I really understanding this? If Jupiter was in the third house the

relationship with younger siblings would suffer? If in the 8th house there

may be no interest in metaphysics?

 

 

 

Thank you for considering my simple questions.

 

 

 

Phyllis

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

_____

 

vedic astrology

[vedic astrology ] On Behalf Of Gopal Goel

April 15, 2008 3:53 AM

 

Cc: vedic astrology ; sohamsa

[vedic astrology] Re:Bhava nasha karo Jeeva , Bhava vriddhi karau

Shani

 

 

 

Dear Friends,

This dictum is slightly misunderstood. I MAY LIKE TO GIVE MY VIEWS:

1. Word Nasho is a Sanskrit word which , in nutshell , means that one gets

the results but does not reap the benefit from it.

Kindly consult any Sanskrit Dictionary.

2. Whenever Jupiter occupies a Bhava , person becomes indifferent to the

traits of that house, naturally the signification of that house

suffers

3 Saturn's placement of any house activate the signification of the house ,

thus person put utmost efforts ,and

finally gains.

4. In the nativities , this dictum predominantly operative if Jupiter and

Saturn exchange the signs.

5. In transit , this dictum works very well.

Regards,

 

G.K.GOEL

Ph: 09350311433

Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

NEW DELHI-110 076

INDIA

 

 

Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998@

<krishna_1998%40> >

ancient_indian_ <%40>

astrology

Sunday, 9 March, 2008 9:34:38 PM

Re: Re: 5H_Saturn....Rare

case...Addendum Mr. Krishna

 

Dear Nameisego ji,

 

Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also heard

about " Karakao bhava naashya.. " , hence the confusion.

 

Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that Jupiter

destroys the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house it occupies. Do

you think it is applicable to all charts or is there a rider or something

else to look for before applying the dictum? And, should we look at Rasi

chart or Bhava chart to apply this dictum? I am asking this question because

Jupiter changes house in my Bhava chart. Please clarify.

 

Regards,

Krishna

 

nameisego <nameisego > wrote:

Dear Mr. Krishna

 

Where did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?

 

The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani: "

clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits

and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.

 

Tatvam-Asi

 

ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998@ ...> wrote:

>

> Dear Nameisego ji,

>

> I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th

house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father.

Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for

father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't understand how this

can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> nameisego <nameisego@. ..> wrote:

> Dear Krishnaji,

>

> The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic

> rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that.

> In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was

done.

> The woman carried the child all along.

>

> I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this

> jathaka has Guru in 9th.

> I do follow the dictum, " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva "

>

> TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.

>

> One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.

> And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)

>

> Be blessed

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> ancient_indian_ astrology, Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama <krishna_1998@ > wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nameiego ji,

> >

> > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow

> instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before.

> Thanks for sharing.

> >

> > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's

> father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed

> that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took

> place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the

> father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi

> (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is

> also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.

> >

> > Also, I did not understand what is TBOMK.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> :

> ------------ --------- --------- ---

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Try it now.

>

 

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Namaste Mr. Geol ji,

 

I would request you to kindly give an example for the nice description

of the concept, which now sounds logical.

 

Example: Consider Sagittarius Lagna, with Jupiter going to

Debilitation later this year, i.e. Jupiter{T} would be placed in 2H.

What would be its effect.

 

T= Transit

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

 

, Gopal Goel

<gkgoel1937 wrote:

>

> Dear Friends,

> This dictum is slightly misunderstood. I MAY LIKE TO GIVE MY VIEWS:

> 1. Word Nasho is a Sanskrit word which , in nutshell , means that one

gets the results but does not reap the benefit from it.

> Kindly consult any Sanskrit Dictionary.

> 2. Whenever Jupiter occupies a Bhava , person becomes indifferent to

the traits of that house, naturally the signification of that house

> suffers

> 3 Saturn's placement of any house activate the signification of the

house , thus person put utmost efforts ,and

> finally gains.

> 4. In the nativities , this dictum predominantly operative if Jupiter

and Saturn exchange the signs.

> 5. In transit , this dictum works very well.

> Regards,

>

>

> G.K.GOEL

> Ph: 09350311433

> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR

> NEW DELHI-110 076

> INDIA