Sri Chandra Hari on real research and Others Who ridicule REAL research

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Hare rama krishna

dear Name is ego ji .

 

very good and wonderful post .

 

I do remeber i provoke u many times ,actualy it was meant for open discussion of ur new theory ( or may be ur family secret which u r ready to share ) and we can combinely do reserch and perfect in case we want .Or we can giv maximum reach to that theory and i want this grp to be breeding ground for it .

 

So we r open to ur articles and i am also looking forward for it ;

even last week i had a scuffle with sri PVR Narasimha rao ji whom i respect most, over some ownership of rahu and ketu and i find he was using mixed sytems .

 

where as i use each system ( wat ever i now ) to arrive at the results and then i compare what is the result with each scheme Than mixing a cock tail and applying and leading no where .

 

So pls devote enogh time for the writing and it will b a boon for next generation and i assume its what u want

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

 

, "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> > Friends,> > What lies undernethe Sri ChandraHari's post is genuine anger when a> researcher feels when his/her research is ridiculed and/or condemned> without a second thought.> > Whenever any original thinking person puts forth a theory based on> his/her findings, the established motley pseudo intellectuals condemn> them and their work outright.> They are not alone in this exercise. Their sycophantic supporters> take up the cudgels and wage a hate campaign.> This has been happening from time immemorial.> Indian Astrologers are no exception to this war waged by established> forces.> > I am a person who believes that knowledge is a flowing river. As it> flows and adopts and adapts, it grows in strength.> If it stagnates, it dries out and dies ultimately. There is nothing> called "Last word" in any branch of science.> Astrology too is an ever evolving science and it is of extreme> importance that people add something of their own (if they are> research minded) to enrich it.> > But this is easier said than done. Whenever a radical research is put> forth by anyone, so called Vidwans and Gurus declare this as> blasphamy and condemn the person and his work immediately.> The first recourse adopted by them is "Our Vedic astrology has been> given to us by Parashar , Jaimini and great rishis. No body can add> or take away anything from it.> I remember as an young man of 24, I had done some research on> HYDROCELE in men and took the article personally to Astrological> magazine's office to meet Sri B.V Raman.I was made to sit in the> outer office for two hours and at the end, a person handed back the> article saying "it is based more on logic than astrology" so we can't> print it.> Actually, I had taken all the examples from Astrology Magazine itself> and tried to prove that in all cases, Vrishaha rasi was occupied by> Sun and also other malefics and Venus was afflicted in all cases.> This simple thing was not considered by any person in AM.> Needless to say that Mr. Raman refused to meet me upon my request.> > I am writing this with a great pain in my heart because, the other> day, I was walking through the archives of my saved mails and also a> which has largest membership.> On question of Ayanamsha, the owner has outright ridiculed Sri> Chandrahari for daring to base his research on ayanamsha on Muladhara> chakra and basing his findings from MULA Nakshatra.> Many more of his yogic thoughts were also ridiculed without even> trying to work on the new Ayanmsha values suggested by Sri Chandra> Hari.> > > Same thing happened to myself when I put forth another radical theory> based on my findings in the form of Rahu centric Theory> I too have been ridiculed and hounded every time I mention or put> some concrete examples. However, I must admit that well known names> have not openly condemned my theory as yet.(This thought has> prevented me from posting on this forum eventhough all people here> have been encouraging)> > The sole purpose in writing this post is that my findings on Rahu-> Ketu corroborates what Sri ChandraHari has found in basing his> Theory on Muladhara chakra and Mula Nakshatra.I have allotted> Vrischik Rasi ownership to Rahu and Dhanur Rasi to Ketu.(Actually, as> per my theory, Rahu and Ketu are one)> Please read through my article on Mesha-Simha and Dhanur Rasi as to> know why Sri ChandraHari may be correct in basing his findings on> Mula Nakshatra .> > I will post a small writeup I wrote about 4 years back on Importance> of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur Rasi after knowing the reactions of> members.> > Tatvam-Asi>

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Dear nameisego ji,I take the liberty of assuming that your post was intended towards me. If not, then please completely ignore this message. First of all, it seems you are assuming that I am a disciple of KNRao or other such gurus. I even dont know who this guy is let alone know what he has done. You must have very well known by my posts that I am a novice in astrology, hence havent studied all these theories proposed by Rao or any other person. All I was saying to Chandrahari ji was that he could argue against other person's theories and calmly prove them wrong rather than ranting and raging. Even I feel like shouting at people who propose stupid theories, but still we should give some respect and calmly prove their theories wrong with arguments rather than calling them names. Its sad that your work was not even seen by Ramanji but that is no reason for you to get disheartened. Even in the technical field that I am studying people ridicule when we talk

something different, but there is no need for us to call others names because we were ridiculed. Ranting and raging shows one's weakness, hence its best to put all your efforts in arguments and debates, otherwise we become like the same people whom we were calling names. There would be no difference between them and us. Hope you and chandrahari ji take my post in positive sense and let us all concentrate on astrology and you can share your knowledge with us all, which is the true aim of this group.Regards,Vijay.nameisego <nameisego wrote: Friends, What lies undernethe Sri ChandraHari's post is genuine anger when a researcher feels when his/her research is ridiculed and/or condemned without a second thought. Whenever any original thinking person puts forth a theory based on his/her findings, the established motley pseudo intellectuals condemn them and their work outright. They are not alone in this exercise. Their sycophantic supporters take up the cudgels and wage a hate campaign. This has been happening from time immemorial. Indian Astrologers are no exception to this war waged by established forces. I am a person who believes that knowledge is a flowing river. As it flows and adopts and adapts, it grows in strength. If it stagnates, it dries out and dies ultimately. There is nothing called "Last word" in any branch of science. Astrology too is an ever evolving science and it is of extreme

importance that people add something of their own (if they are research minded) to enrich it. But this is easier said than done. Whenever a radical research is put forth by anyone, so called Vidwans and Gurus declare this as blasphamy and condemn the person and his work immediately. The first recourse adopted by them is "Our Vedic astrology has been given to us by Parashar , Jaimini and great rishis. No body can add or take away anything from it. I remember as an young man of 24, I had done some research on HYDROCELE in men and took the article personally to Astrological magazine's office to meet Sri B.V Raman.I was made to sit in the outer office for two hours and at the end, a person handed back the article saying "it is based more on logic than astrology" so we can't print it. Actually, I had taken all the examples from Astrology Magazine itself and tried to prove that in all cases, Vrishaha

rasi was occupied by Sun and also other malefics and Venus was afflicted in all cases. This simple thing was not considered by any person in AM. Needless to say that Mr. Raman refused to meet me upon my request. I am writing this with a great pain in my heart because, the other day, I was walking through the archives of my saved mails and also a which has largest membership. On question of Ayanamsha, the owner has outright ridiculed Sri Chandrahari for daring to base his research on ayanamsha on Muladhara chakra and basing his findings from MULA Nakshatra. Many more of his yogic thoughts were also ridiculed without even trying to work on the new Ayanmsha values suggested by Sri Chandra Hari. Same thing happened to myself when I put forth another radical theory based on my findings in the form of Rahu centric Theory I too have been ridiculed and hounded every time I mention or put

some concrete examples. However, I must admit that well known names have not openly condemned my theory as yet.(This thought has prevented me from posting on this forum eventhough all people here have been encouraging) The sole purpose in writing this post is that my findings on Rahu- Ketu corroborates what Sri ChandraHari has found in basing his Theory on Muladhara chakra and Mula Nakshatra.I have allotted Vrischik Rasi ownership to Rahu and Dhanur Rasi to Ketu.(Actually, as per my theory, Rahu and Ketu are one) Please read through my article on Mesha-Simha and Dhanur Rasi as to know why Sri ChandraHari may be correct in basing his findings on Mula Nakshatra . I will post a small writeup I wrote about 4 years back on Importance of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur Rasi after knowing the reactions of members. Tatvam-Asi

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Dear Vijaya Narasimha ji,==> All I was saying to Chandrahari ji was that he could argue against other person's theories and calmly prove them wrong rather than ranting and raging. <== I appreciate your originality and sincerity. But what extra PROOF do you want except systematic and scientific writings like the one presented by him against some of the theories proposed by KNRao ji in the mail /message/8906 ? Of KN Rao ji has his own merit and Chandra hari his own - and BOTH are doing their work (putting effort! Contributing to true research!). But what we are doing? Are we finding enough time to dedicate for astrology (a subject towards which we have ample respect and interest)? How much effort we are putting in to PROVE or DISPROVE theories? How much effort we are pouring into know the truth and essence of the subject we are interested in?? Is it that Hari or Rao is at disadvantage or we? Are we using even a small percentage of our actual efficiency to bring out and verify the facts? May be we should take a lesson from them and improve our effort - that is what I feel. If some one knows the truth and then too lying - he is sinful, he should be ashamed. If some one has the capability and interest and then too he is not putting in adequate effort - he should be ashamed. And I believe this is the case with us - and so let us take a few moments to look back at ourselves. I hope you see the pointLove and regards,Sreenadh , Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote:>> > Dear nameisego ji,> > I take the liberty of assuming that your post was intended towards me. If not, then please completely ignore this message. First of all, it seems you are assuming that I am a disciple of KNRao or other such gurus. I even dont know who this guy is let alone know what he has done. You must have very well known by my posts that I am a novice in astrology, hence havent studied all these theories proposed by Rao or any other person. All I was saying to Chandrahari ji was that he could argue against other person's theories and calmly prove them wrong rather than ranting and raging. Even I feel like shouting at people who propose stupid theories, but still we should give some respect and calmly prove their theories wrong with arguments rather than calling them names. Its sad that your work was not even seen by Ramanji but that is no reason for you to get disheartened. Even in the technical field that I am studying people ridicule when we talk something different, but there is no> need for us to call others names because we were ridiculed. Ranting and raging shows one's weakness, hence its best to put all your efforts in arguments and debates, otherwise we become like the same people whom we were calling names. There would be no difference between them and us. Hope you and chandrahari ji take my post in positive sense and let us all concentrate on astrology and you can share your knowledge with us all, which is the true aim of this group.> > Regards,> Vijay.> > nameisego nameisego wrote: > Friends,> > What lies undernethe Sri ChandraHari's post is genuine anger when a > researcher feels when his/her research is ridiculed and/or condemned > without a second thought.> > Whenever any original thinking person puts forth a theory based on > his/her findings, the established motley pseudo intellectuals condemn > them and their work outright.> They are not alone in this exercise. Their sycophantic supporters > take up the cudgels and wage a hate campaign.> This has been happening from time immemorial.> Indian Astrologers are no exception to this war waged by established > forces.> > I am a person who believes that knowledge is a flowing river. As it > flows and adopts and adapts, it grows in strength.> If it stagnates, it dries out and dies ultimately. There is nothing > called "Last word" in any branch of science.> Astrology too is an ever evolving science and it is of extreme > importance that people add something of their own (if they are > research minded) to enrich it.> > But this is easier said than done. Whenever a radical research is put > forth by anyone, so called Vidwans and Gurus declare this as > blasphamy and condemn the person and his work immediately.> The first recourse adopted by them is "Our Vedic astrology has been > given to us by Parashar , Jaimini and great rishis. No body can add > or take away anything from it.> I remember as an young man of 24, I had done some research on > HYDROCELE in men and took the article personally to Astrological > magazine's office to meet Sri B.V Raman.I was made to sit in the > outer office for two hours and at the end, a person handed back the > article saying "it is based more on logic than astrology" so we can't > print it. > Actually, I had taken all the examples from Astrology Magazine itself > and tried to prove that in all cases, Vrishaha rasi was occupied by > Sun and also other malefics and Venus was afflicted in all cases.> This simple thing was not considered by any person in AM.> Needless to say that Mr. Raman refused to meet me upon my request.> > I am writing this with a great pain in my heart because, the other > day, I was walking through the archives of my saved mails and also a > which has largest membership. > On question of Ayanamsha, the owner has outright ridiculed Sri > Chandrahari for daring to base his research on ayanamsha on Muladhara > chakra and basing his findings from MULA Nakshatra.> Many more of his yogic thoughts were also ridiculed without even > trying to work on the new Ayanmsha values suggested by Sri Chandra > Hari.> > Same thing happened to myself when I put forth another radical theory > based on my findings in the form of Rahu centric Theory> I too have been ridiculed and hounded every time I mention or put > some concrete examples. However, I must admit that well known names > have not openly condemned my theory as yet.(This thought has > prevented me from posting on this forum eventhough all people here > have been encouraging)> > The sole purpose in writing this post is that my findings on Rahu-> Ketu corroborates what Sri ChandraHari has found in basing his > Theory on Muladhara chakra and Mula Nakshatra.I have allotted > Vrischik Rasi ownership to Rahu and Dhanur Rasi to Ketu.(Actually, as > per my theory, Rahu and Ketu are one)> Please read through my article on Mesha-Simha and Dhanur Rasi as to > know why Sri ChandraHari may be correct in basing his findings on > Mula Nakshatra .> > I will post a small writeup I wrote about 4 years back on Importance > of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur Rasi after knowing the reactions of > members.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.>

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Dear Vijay ji,

I think my answer to the query posed by you is already present in the

mail:

/message/9235

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Note: If someone can live without the furnace within and still purify

gold then well and good; but usually that does not happen †" A

worldly fact.

Love and regards,

Sreenadh

 

, Vijayanarasimha H Pakka

<hpvijaynarasimha wrote:

>

> Dear Shreenadhji,

>

> I am glad that all of us agree here that research should be done and

false theories need to be counter-argued and put down. My point was no

at all regarding the theories put forward by Raoji or Chandra hariji,

since I have said earlier that I havent read any of their theories. All

I am saying is that debates should be done professionally rather than

personal abuses. I appreciate that chandrahariji has taken the

initiative to disprove some theory wrong, but it doesnt mean that we

sway down the path of personal abuses. Professionalism is the need of

the hour. What if someone after 10 years disproves chandrahriji's

theories, do you feel that that person should first abuse chandrahariji

and then disprove his theories. No theory is perfect, hence

professionally and decently disproving them is like a slap to the face

of the fraudster, so personal abuses arent quite required, they divert

the mind and rather take our attention away from the actual debates.

Please note that I am

> only concerned about unnecessary abuses and spams, hope you appreciate

my concern.

>

> Regards,

> Vijay.

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What is the real name of this nameisego?

 

Nameisego ji, what is your real name?

 

, " sunil nair "

<astro_tellerkerala wrote:

>

>

>

>

> Hare rama krishna

>

> dear Name is ego ji .

>

>

>

> very good and wonderful post .

>

>

>

> I do remeber i provoke u many times ,actualy it was meant for open

> discussion of ur new theory ( or may be ur family secret which u r ready

> to share ) and we can combinely do reserch and perfect in case we want

> .Or we can giv maximum reach to that theory and i want this grp to be

> breeding ground for it .

>

>

>

> So we r open to ur articles and i am also looking forward for it ;

>

> even last week i had a scuffle with sri PVR Narasimha rao ji whom i

> respect most, over some ownership of rahu and ketu and i find he was

> using mixed sytems .

>

>

>

> where as i use each system ( wat ever i now ) to arrive at the results

> and then i compare what is the result with each scheme Than mixing a

> cock tail and applying and leading no where .

>

>

>

> So pls devote enogh time for the writing and it will b a boon for next

> generation and i assume its what u want

>

>

>

> regrds sunil nair

>

>

>

> om shreem mahalaxmai namah .

>

>

>

>

> , " nameisego "

> <nameisego@> wrote:

> >

> >

> > Friends,

> >

> > What lies undernethe Sri ChandraHari's post is genuine anger when a

> > researcher feels when his/her research is ridiculed and/or condemned

> > without a second thought.

> >

> > Whenever any original thinking person puts forth a theory based on

> > his/her findings, the established motley pseudo intellectuals condemn

> > them and their work outright.

> > They are not alone in this exercise. Their sycophantic supporters

> > take up the cudgels and wage a hate campaign.

> > This has been happening from time immemorial.

> > Indian Astrologers are no exception to this war waged by established

> > forces.

> >

> > I am a person who believes that knowledge is a flowing river. As it

> > flows and adopts and adapts, it grows in strength.

> > If it stagnates, it dries out and dies ultimately. There is nothing

> > called " Last word " in any branch of science.

> > Astrology too is an ever evolving science and it is of extreme

> > importance that people add something of their own (if they are

> > research minded) to enrich it.

> >

> > But this is easier said than done. Whenever a radical research is put

> > forth by anyone, so called Vidwans and Gurus declare this as

> > blasphamy and condemn the person and his work immediately.

> > The first recourse adopted by them is " Our Vedic astrology has been

> > given to us by Parashar , Jaimini and great rishis. No body can add

> > or take away anything from it.

> > I remember as an young man of 24, I had done some research on

> > HYDROCELE in men and took the article personally to Astrological

> > magazine's office to meet Sri B.V Raman.I was made to sit in the

> > outer office for two hours and at the end, a person handed back the

> > article saying " it is based more on logic than astrology " so we can't

> > print it.

> > Actually, I had taken all the examples from Astrology Magazine itself

> > and tried to prove that in all cases, Vrishaha rasi was occupied by

> > Sun and also other malefics and Venus was afflicted in all cases.

> > This simple thing was not considered by any person in AM.

> > Needless to say that Mr. Raman refused to meet me upon my request.

> >

> > I am writing this with a great pain in my heart because, the other

> > day, I was walking through the archives of my saved mails and also a

> > which has largest membership.

> > On question of Ayanamsha, the owner has outright ridiculed Sri

> > Chandrahari for daring to base his research on ayanamsha on Muladhara

> > chakra and basing his findings from MULA Nakshatra.

> > Many more of his yogic thoughts were also ridiculed without even

> > trying to work on the new Ayanmsha values suggested by Sri Chandra

> > Hari.

> >

> >

> > Same thing happened to myself when I put forth another radical theory

> > based on my findings in the form of Rahu centric Theory

> > I too have been ridiculed and hounded every time I mention or put

> > some concrete examples. However, I must admit that well known names

> > have not openly condemned my theory as yet.(This thought has

> > prevented me from posting on this forum eventhough all people here

> > have been encouraging)

> >

> > The sole purpose in writing this post is that my findings on Rahu-

> > Ketu corroborates what Sri ChandraHari has found in basing his

> > Theory on Muladhara chakra and Mula Nakshatra.I have allotted

> > Vrischik Rasi ownership to Rahu and Dhanur Rasi to Ketu.(Actually, as

> > per my theory, Rahu and Ketu are one)

> > Please read through my article on Mesha-Simha and Dhanur Rasi as to

> > know why Sri ChandraHari may be correct in basing his findings on

> > Mula Nakshatra .

> >

> > I will post a small writeup I wrote about 4 years back on Importance

> > of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur Rasi after knowing the reactions of

> > members.

> >

> > Tatvam-Asi

> >

>

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Dear All, A name is a name is a name - that all to it; But it is the contributions and the memory (history) of contributions that make an individual worth listening to (identified by a real name or pen name or pesudo name). If some one wants to be anonymous - let that be so. Net allows us that much freedom. In groups what we value is the knowledge shared rather than the names and identities. (I remember 'pranasoup' in search of whom me and vinita ji was for some days - and anonymous knowledge store). But if the identity (name + worldly contributions and other details) is known that could be more helpful in evaluating and understanding most of the times; that could be much helpful in developing personal relationships most of the times; but at times it could be a hurdle in creating a healthy relationship as well - if ideologies differ or if conflicts already present. Note: Every organism has its own way of existence - Internet has its own; and one of its micro module has its own. :)Love and regards,Sreenadh , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> What is real and what is not real?> What purpose does it serve to know real name?> > If I say my name is Vishal Brahmabhatt, will it make you happy?> So be it.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > , "kiran.rama" > kiran.rama@ wrote:> >> > What is the real name of this nameisego?> > > > Nameisego ji, what is your real name?> > > > , "sunil nair"> > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote:> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > > > dear Name is ego ji .> > > > > > > > > > > > very good and wonderful post .> > > > > > > > > > > > I do remeber i provoke u many times ,actualy it was meant for open> > > discussion of ur new theory ( or may be ur family secret which u > r ready> > > to share ) and we can combinely do reserch and perfect in case we > want> > > .Or we can giv maximum reach to that theory and i want this grp > to be> > > breeding ground for it .> > > > > > > > > > > > So we r open to ur articles and i am also looking forward for > it ;> > > > > > even last week i had a scuffle with sri PVR Narasimha rao ji whom > i> > > respect most, over some ownership of rahu and ketu and i find he > was> > > using mixed sytems .> > > > > > > > > > > > where as i use each system ( wat ever i now ) to arrive at the > results> > > and then i compare what is the result with each scheme Than > mixing a> > > cock tail and applying and leading no where .> > > > > > > > > > > > So pls devote enogh time for the writing and it will b a boon for > next> > > generation and i assume its what u want> > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , "nameisego"> > > <nameisego@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Friends,> > > >> > > > What lies undernethe Sri ChandraHari's post is genuine anger > when a> > > > researcher feels when his/her research is ridiculed and/or > condemned> > > > without a second thought.> > > >> > > > Whenever any original thinking person puts forth a theory based > on> > > > his/her findings, the established motley pseudo intellectuals > condemn> > > > them and their work outright.> > > > They are not alone in this exercise. Their sycophantic > supporters> > > > take up the cudgels and wage a hate campaign.> > > > This has been happening from time immemorial.> > > > Indian Astrologers are no exception to this war waged by > established> > > > forces.> > > >> > > > I am a person who believes that knowledge is a flowing river. > As it> > > > flows and adopts and adapts, it grows in strength.> > > > If it stagnates, it dries out and dies ultimately. There is > nothing> > > > called "Last word" in any branch of science.> > > > Astrology too is an ever evolving science and it is of extreme> > > > importance that people add something of their own (if they are> > > > research minded) to enrich it.> > > >> > > > But this is easier said than done. Whenever a radical research > is put> > > > forth by anyone, so called Vidwans and Gurus declare this as> > > > blasphamy and condemn the person and his work immediately.> > > > The first recourse adopted by them is "Our Vedic astrology has > been> > > > given to us by Parashar , Jaimini and great rishis. No body can > add> > > > or take away anything from it.> > > > I remember as an young man of 24, I had done some research on> > > > HYDROCELE in men and took the article personally to Astrological> > > > magazine's office to meet Sri B.V Raman.I was made to sit in the> > > > outer office for two hours and at the end, a person handed back > the> > > > article saying "it is based more on logic than astrology" so we > can't> > > > print it.> > > > Actually, I had taken all the examples from Astrology Magazine > itself> > > > and tried to prove that in all cases, Vrishaha rasi was > occupied by> > > > Sun and also other malefics and Venus was afflicted in all > cases.> > > > This simple thing was not considered by any person in AM.> > > > Needless to say that Mr. Raman refused to meet me upon my > request.> > > >> > > > I am writing this with a great pain in my heart because, the > other> > > > day, I was walking through the archives of my saved mails and > also a> > > > which has largest membership.> > > > On question of Ayanamsha, the owner has outright ridiculed Sri> > > > Chandrahari for daring to base his research on ayanamsha on > Muladhara> > > > chakra and basing his findings from MULA Nakshatra.> > > > Many more of his yogic thoughts were also ridiculed without even> > > > trying to work on the new Ayanmsha values suggested by Sri > Chandra> > > > Hari.> > > >> > > >> > > > Same thing happened to myself when I put forth another radical > theory> > > > based on my findings in the form of Rahu centric Theory> > > > I too have been ridiculed and hounded every time I mention or > put> > > > some concrete examples. However, I must admit that well known > names> > > > have not openly condemned my theory as yet.(This thought has> > > > prevented me from posting on this forum eventhough all people > here> > > > have been encouraging)> > > >> > > > The sole purpose in writing this post is that my findings on > Rahu-> > > > Ketu corroborates what Sri ChandraHari has found in basing his> > > > Theory on Muladhara chakra and Mula Nakshatra.I have allotted> > > > Vrischik Rasi ownership to Rahu and Dhanur Rasi to Ketu.> (Actually, as> > > > per my theory, Rahu and Ketu are one)> > > > Please read through my article on Mesha-Simha and Dhanur Rasi > as to> > > > know why Sri ChandraHari may be correct in basing his findings > on> > > > Mula Nakshatra .> > > >> > > > I will post a small writeup I wrote about 4 years back on > Importance> > > > of Mesha, Simha and Dhanur Rasi after knowing the reactions of> > > > members.> > > >> > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > >> > >> >>

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Dear Vijay ji, That was a very good mail - but I feel myself more in tune with Jaya ji's than yours. As far as your words about publications and inventions are concerned - Sorry, I disagree; and feel that you are yet to get the facts right. There was a simple example quoted by me in this group before some days - * A 100% dependable Cure for AIDS virus is invented and even when crores of people are dying with that disease in the world every year it is NOT getting accepted or appreciated!! If you re-search the facts you will find that certainly that was the case in many instances regarding many great inventions and discoveries. Anonymous inventers who died of poverty and lack of acknowledgement; lacked facilities and environment is MORE than those handful of people who where lucky to have it; so still the few who could be counted in finger tips with multiple talents who where brave enough to fight for it win it (i.e. both worldly success and dedicated research satisfaction)Love and regards,Sreenadh , Vijayanarasimha H Pakka <hpvijaynarasimha wrote:>> Dear Jayaji,> > Thnx for pointing out that we need a blend of spices to get a good flavour, and maybe I am too bland a taste . Anyway, I am a fan of John Ruskin and just want to add up some similar quote:> "In all things that live there are certain irregularities and deficiencies which are not only signs of life, but sources of beauty. No human face is exactly the same in its lines on each side, no leaf perfect in its lobes, no branch in its symmetry. All admit irregularity as they admit change; and to banish imperfection is to destroy expression, to check exertion, to paralyse vitality." -John Ruskin.> > Hence I have always accepted different opinions, different ideas and different people, no question about that. But if we were to apply same principle, then, even KNRao is just another spice, maybe a 'fraud' spice . The issue here that I am pointing out, which, unfortunately all of you guys have misunderstood, is that calling names is different than disagreeing. I completely support anyone who is open for cut-throat debate. But debate should be professional, right.> > You said:> "Also you should try to know people before > advising as to whether you are in a position to do so. When we try > to advice people who had devoted their lives to this, we are > ridiculing ourselves. "> > I completely disagree with this. In fact this is the very basis for students not asking doubts in classrooms. They are so scared of professors that they feel they are doubting their integrity. Since I am studying in a different environment since the past 3 years (in UK), here, we are encouraged to openly question top scientists and clarify our doubts and some smart students infact point out mistakes of seniors who have dedicated their lives to research. There is no absolute compulsion that a person who has dedicated his life studying something is an expert. In that case, I guess KNRao has studied all his life, but still his theories were proved wrong by chandrahariji. If we were to follow your principle, then no one would have challenged KNRao. > > You said:> "If you sit down quietly an do the work, do > you think anyone publish your data? Not a chance, esp in Science, > you need big names and authority to get decent publication."> > I am sorry to say, but this is not at all true. Please recheck your facts. Getting publications is not an absolute pre-requisite to show to the world that you are a good researcher. Do you think Galileo had any publications before he claimed his findings. Do you think archimedes first published a paper with some BIG name and then became a good researcher. Publications are a by product of one's good research. However, people in scientific research prefer to debate hotly rather than call names, because they know that people can go terribly wrong in their theories and one needs to just point out their mistakes with authority rather than abuse. > That's the free world of research. > > Anyway I agree totally with your words that life is full of variety, I hope others appreciate your words too.> > Regards,> Vijay.> > > revati_n27 revati_n27 wrote: Dear Vijayji:> > Sreenadhji has explained the facts very well. It is better to > understand people as such. People react differently, that is why > the world is so colorful. Can you imagine how boring the world > would be, if it is inhabited by people just like Vijayji? (joking). > Curry gets its flavor from the right mix of different spices. We > need people like Sunilji with immense patience and incredible > experience, Sreeramji with his unique way of explaining astrology in > simple way (with a pich of sarcasm), Sreenadhji with abundant > knowledge (with a spoon of arrogance) and ofcourse Chadrahariji with > that raging and ranting anger (only refering few). > > To me, by his socalled "irrelevent mails" he is asking the new > comers to be vigilent against fraud and to stick to the original > wisdom from our ancestors rather than blindly believing the later > versions. A person with such authority in the field has the right > to do so. When you see that in the right perspective, you > understand and accept. Also you should try to know people before > advising as to whether you are in a position to do so. When we try > to advice people who had devoted their lives to this, we are > ridiculing ourselves. > > In the real life scenario (myself, from your post, I assume you are > a molecular Biologist), can you blame if any biochemist > call "Watson" names for what he did to make himself the father of > Molecular Biology. Would you dare to advice Tony Hunter if he rage > and rant at Watson? If you are in his lab, would you expect him to > do benchwork with you?. If you sit down quietly an do the work, do > you think anyone publish your data? Not a chance, esp in Science, > you need big names and authority to get decent publication. > > Try not to get offended, this is only my opinion, take it as if from > a big sis.> Best> Jaya> > , Vijayanarasimha H > Pakka hpvijaynarasimha@ wrote:> >> > Dear Shreenadhji,> > > > I am glad that all of us agree here that research should be done > and false theories need to be counter-argued and put down. My point > was no at all regarding the theories put forward by Raoji or Chandra > hariji, since I have said earlier that I havent read any of their > theories. All I am saying is that debates should be done > professionally rather than personal abuses. I appreciate that > chandrahariji has taken the initiative to disprove some theory > wrong, but it doesnt mean that we sway down the path of personal > abuses. Professionalism is the need of the hour. What if someone > after 10 years disproves chandrahriji's theories, do you feel that > that person should first abuse chandrahariji and then disprove his > theories. No theory is perfect, hence professionally and decently > disproving them is like a slap to the face of the fraudster, so > personal abuses arent quite required, they divert the mind and > rather take our attention away from the actual debates. Please note > that I am> > only concerned about unnecessary abuses and spams, hope you > appreciate my concern.> > > > Regards,> > Vijay.> > > >> > > > > > > You rock. That's why Blockbuster's offering you one month of Blockbuster Total Access, No Cost.>