Guest guest Posted March 24, 2008 Report Share Posted March 24, 2008 B = boy; G= girl Lahiri Ayanamsa; JHora G1: 23rd June 1984 @ 9.59 PM in Colombo, Sri Lanka Aquarius lagna - Sa + Ma in 9H. Left Sri Lanka to settle down in the States with her mom & dad in Venus/Saturn/Saturn dasa. [Jan 2002]. Now doing exceptionally well there. Gifted with many talents and leadership qualities. No siblings ...Born after 17 years when her parents lost their first child, a son. Math major and Theatre minor graduate...post graduate in Maths. G2: 4th July 1984 @ 8.27 AM in Colombo, Sri Lanka Cancer lagna- Sa + Ma in 4H. You will notice that the afflicted 4H did not allow her mother to live long. She died of cancer. I cannot remember the date exactly....but roughly during Moon/Venus period...both representing mother here. She left to India [West from SL] in Ma/Ra/Ke period. Information Technology degree...and now gone to Australia for MBA. B1: 14th December 1984 @ 8.26 AM in Colombo, SL Saggitarius lagna - Sa in 11H. Ma exalted in 2H. Exchange of 2HL & 11HL. Jupiter in lagna. Joined college in USA during Ve/Me/Mo. The dispositor of Ve is exalted Sa. Me is placed in 12H indicating residence abroad. Moon is placed in 9H, a friendly house, and dispositor being Sun placed in 12H. He is doing very well now and will be graduating this year in Economics and Business and Biology major. Hoping to continue his studies. The above three had fine leadership qualities while in school. Talented in many fields. Let us concentrate on 2 horoscopes where the boys wanted to go to West but failed. B2: 21st November 1984 @ 1.21 AM in Colombo, SL. Leo lagna - Sa in 3H. He was prevented from going to the States after applying to colleges over there due to an illness which no astrologer could explain todate. This was during Ju/Ju/Sa dasa. During this time trasit Ju, his 5HL was in lagna. B3: 18th November 1984 @ 8.40 AM in Colombo, SL. Saggitarius lagna - He was very keen to go to the States. Tried very hard. But he was not selected to colleges/universities he applied during Mars/Saturn period. Now reading for Electronic Engineering degree in SL. He is planning to go to West for post graduate studies. I did not include my son's chart born in 84, now studying in the States. He is Pisces lagna. Hence Sa + Ma in 8H. Left SL in Ju/Ju/ Sa. I suppose these are enough for the time being:) Hope you will find them useful. Meanwhile I too will study for common traits in these charts. One common quality in all of them was they were all leaders, did well in studies, talented in many fields....and all of them are good friends. blessings Renu , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Very interesting Renu ji, > > That makes two of 21 st nov 1984 borns known to us. We could compare and see > the results of the same saturn for different lagnas/or may be same > lagna??...time twins!!!. Why don't you give the birth data of this boy. > > Also, since you also have an exalted saturn, makes you 54-55 born.... you > may not see so much of movement towards west....with the world becoming > smaller now and easy access to faraway places...it seems saturn is having a > good time with these kids... > > If you have some charts of that age group...having gone more than half way > through their lives, we could analyse some happenings in those charts > vis-s-vis the newer generation. > > Regards > neelam > > On 24/03/2008, renunw renunw wrote: > > > > Dear Sreeram ji, > > > > You are always welcome to our discussions as your spices make our curries > > more tasteful > > > > The Virgo boy I mentioned finished his degree in engineering, though > > initially he wanted to do electronics. But all of them offered Maths stream > > for their A/L examination. > > > > A boy known to me born on *21st Nov 84, *in Sri Lanka tried to go to West > > with the commencement of his Jupiter Dasa, but due to a malignant tumour > > [now cured] he finished his degree in SL....lives in the West of the > > country. May be his Sa dasa will take him to West. He did Business > > Management. > > > > blessings > > > > Renu > > > > , " sreeram srinivas " > > sreeram64@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > Namaste Madam(s) ji, > > > > > > Let me contribute another set of data to this all females discussioin. > > > > > > Female, Gemini Lagna, 21-Nov.-1984, 20:15hrs, Visakhapatnam also called > > > Visag or Waltair {sub village of city Visakhapatnam {correct > > > spelling}now merged into one original city, some people even spell it as > > > - VisHakapatnam}. > > > > > > She {graduate in electronics & communication engg} got recruited during > > > campus interview mid Year 2005 and out of many Indian offices that were > > > possible she was asked to report to Mumbai office. i.e. West side to > > > Hyderabad. She was also running Saturn Mahadasha from Year 2003. > > > > > > Let me know if this small set of hororscopes in discussion have any > > > relation to Electronics or Communication Engg. Though it is connected > > > to 5H, not seen much interest in further studies in the cases that I > > > came across. > > > > > > With regards, > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas > > > > > > , " neelam gupta " > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > Thanks for confirming the results. > > > > The real culprit appears to be saturn in Libra. Though mars seems to > > > have > > > > played its role depending on its lordship. > > > > Saturn in Libra in natural seventh house, exalted, gives its full > > > support > > > > for westwards travel. Saravali also says that a person with saturn in > > > libra > > > > will earn money and honours in foreign lands. In 83-84 borns, the > > > aspect of > > > > Jupiter is missing, rather saturn aspects Jupiter, thus having its > > > way. > > > > > > > > In your first case of aquarius lagna, the girl would work and earn > > > abroad > > > > as: > > > > Saturn as LL and 12L in 9H will give long journeys, which a person > > > will > > > > undertake with his own efforts for work (mars with saturn as 3L and > > > 10L). > > > > Since saturn and mars form a Rajyog in 9H, and this saturn aspects 2L > > > and > > > > 11L jupiter in 11th house, the native will get good money and position > > > > abroad. Rest will depend on the dasha sequence. > > > > > > > > regards > > > > neelam > > > > > > > > On 23/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > > > " Another point I would like to tell you, while on 83-84 natives is > > > the > > > > > affliction to libra. For a long time you get mars with saturn. > > > > > > > > > > Though saturn is exalted, most of them are also doing well, but I > > > have > > > > > generally seen: > > > > > > > > > > - *These natives have gone away from their birth places for study > > > > > etc. in their early years. " * > > > > > > > > > > I agree with you and I have come across the given combination in > > > quite a > > > > > number of horoscopes. To name a few, > > > > > > > > > > Aquarius lagna girl born in 84= Sa + Ma in 9H Libra > > > > > > > > > > Virgo lagna boy born in 84 = Sa + Ma in 2H Libra > > > > > > > > > > Saggitarius lagna 2 boys born in 84 = Sa + Ma in 11H Libra > > > > > > > > > > Pisces lagna boy born in 84 = Sa + Ma in 8H Libra > > > > > > > > > > But tell me why would Mars + Saturn in *Libra* would 'ship' the > > > children > > > > > abroad for studies? > > > > > > > > > > I am fascinated by your correct analysis > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " neelam gupta " > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. I have seen this in many cases... > > > > > > > > > > > > Another point I would like to tell you, while on 83-84 natives is > > > > > the > > > > > > affliction to libra. For a long time you get mars with saturn. > > > > > > > > > > > > Though saturn is exalted, most of them are also doing well, but I > > > > > have > > > > > > generally seen: > > > > > > > > > > > > - These natives have gone away from their birth places for study > > > > > etc. > > > > > > in their early years. > > > > > > - The girls are generally facing problems related to reproductive > > > > > > system...disturbances in the menstrual cycle (as in this present > > > > > case), > > > > > > cysts in uterus (one girl already had a surgery to remove the > > > > > cyst), other > > > > > > problems...etc. > > > > > > - They are likely to marry a person with a more than normal age > > > > > > difference. (one of the girls recently got married, her husband is > > > > > 5 years > > > > > > elder to her (saturn), but looks young like a school boy (mars) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ...keep and eye and please keep me posted... > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 23/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > First of all let me say sorry to you regarding the girl's > > > > > horoscope and > > > > > > > dualities in her life.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I contacted her mother and confirms your findings. Yes, this > > > > > girl, is very > > > > > > > attached to her grand mother. When she was small she would not > > > > > allow grandma > > > > > > > to leave her etc.etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When it came to her shcooling at 5+, she had got admission to 2 > > > > > very good > > > > > > > & popular schools, when mostly others would have to fight with > > > > > the support > > > > > > > of bogus documents to get a good school. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > It is kind of she would not stick to her first selection. Even > > > > > when it > > > > > > > came to her university education, first she was studying in > > > > > California and > > > > > > > then half way [as she missed her boy friend] she came to Sri > > > > > Lanka and > > > > > > > joined a private university here to complete her major. She > > > > > changed her > > > > > > > major..half way. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > She has had 2 serious relationships with and both ended, not due > > > > > to her > > > > > > > fault. In fact she is keen to ger married but with all her > > > > > beauty,brains and > > > > > > > money...she has not found the right partner. Mother is worried > > > > > that she > > > > > > > would have two marriages....since she [mother] says that life > > > > > has been a > > > > > > > duality so far....Congratulations on your analysis!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " This bit about two mothers is a Saravali dictum, which says > > > > > that a person > > > > > > > having moon in gemini will have two mothers. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this.. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " Since gemini is a dual sign and moon is for mother, I guess it > > > > > makes > > > > > > > sense. " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I know another boy born a few hours after that girl, but Aries > > > > > langna, > > > > > > > Moon in Gemini. He is more attached to his grand mother. He > > > > > lived with his > > > > > > > grandma for a long time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So your anaysis holds good > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " with sun in gemini, could see if there is any other father-like > > > > > figure > > > > > > > apart from her father...you know the extensions... " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I would say 'yes' to this too. She always would go for a > > > > > father-like > > > > > > > figure to give her protection and that is the kind of husband > > > > > she is looking > > > > > > > for. She is attached to her father too. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " neelam gupta " > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renuji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This bit about two mothers is a Saravali dictum, which says > > > > > that a > > > > > > > person > > > > > > > > having moon in gemini will have two mothers. > > > > > > > > I have seen it hold good many cases. In one case the girl went > > > > > to stay > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > her grandmother, in another one after school she went abroad > > > > > and stayed > > > > > > > with > > > > > > > > her aunt for a long time.... > > > > > > > > Since gemini is a dual sign and moon is for mother, I guess it > > > > > makes > > > > > > > sense. > > > > > > > > I extended it further and asked you about duality as she has > > > > > many > > > > > > > planets in > > > > > > > > gemini including the luminaries, thus making gemini an > > > > > important sign > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > her. > > > > > > > > with sun in gemini, could see if there is any other > > > > > father-like figure > > > > > > > apart > > > > > > > > from her father...you know the extensions... > > > > > > > > Since gemini happens to be the 5H and 5L mercury is also > > > > > there, I > > > > > > > extended > > > > > > > > it to a probability of having twins. Some other parameters of > > > > > having > > > > > > > twins > > > > > > > > are also applicable here. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep me informed about her. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your analysis taking 5HL as lagna, which > > > > > never came > > > > > > > > > into my dull head. This is the advantage of discussing > > > > > astrological > > > > > > > > > issues with learned members:) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is quite clear that her 5H taken either way, i.e. as > > > > > Aquarius > > > > > > > > > lagna or as Gemini lagna....is afflicted. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " By the way, has this girl been brought up by 2 mothers in > > > > > some way? > > > > > > > An > > > > > > > > > aunt also taking care of her, or grand mother. some motherly > > > > > > > association > > > > > > > > > apart from biological mother " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answer is 'no' to the above question. Her mother had been > > > > > & is with > > > > > > > > > her always and the mother and daughter are the best of > > > > > friends. But > > > > > > > > > kindly tell me..why you asked such a question? What > > > > > astrological > > > > > > > > > principle indicates duality in her life? ....I cannot think > > > > > of any > > > > > > > > > dualities as such....Yet I will surely pass the good news > > > > > .... " she may > > > > > > > > > bear twins herself!!!... " to her. She would love to hear it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > " neelam gupta " > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....My question is how can this hormone imbalance be > > > > > explained from > > > > > > > > > > her planetary > > > > > > > > > > configuration in 5H? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me try to analyse the situation. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you get the answer when: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You take 5H as ascendant. This has to be done as there are > > > > > 3 > > > > > > > > > conditions as > > > > > > > > > > per classics: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - 1) There are many planets and maximum no. of planets in > > > > > 5H, that > > > > > > > > > > makes it very strong. > > > > > > > > > > - 2) The 5H is also the moon sign > > > > > > > > > > - 3) It is also the sun sign and becomes importance for > > > > > > > health-related > > > > > > > > > > issues > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you see from gemini as ascendant: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Saturn is 8L and afflicts 5H and libra by placement, 7H > > > > > by aspect, > > > > > > > > > > 11 and aries by aspect, also 2H and cancer by aspect > > > > > > > > > > - Jupiter is not a benefic for gemini, and it is > > > > > retrograding in 6H > > > > > > > in > > > > > > > > > > scorpio. Thus afflicting the water tatwa. As a mark in 6H > > > > > aspecting, > > > > > > > > > 2H and > > > > > > > > > > 12H > > > > > > > > > > - venus herself is not comfortable in leo and her signs > > > > > are both > > > > > > > > > > afflicted and dispositor afflicted in lagna. > > > > > > > > > > - In the navamsha, taurus rises with venus is in lagna > > > > > with D-1 LL > > > > > > > > > > mercury, maintain aspect by mars, saturn, and jupiter. > > > > > > > > > > - In shashtamsha, saturn debilitates in 8H with r/k, > > > > > aspects > > > > > > > moon-mer > > > > > > > > > > again in gemini and malefics flank venus in taurus, with > > > > > Jupiter > > > > > > > still > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the sambandh. > > > > > > > > > > - See Jupiter is inimical in vargas -- rashi, navamsh, > > > > > shatamsh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When moon & mars both are afflicted, there are menstrual > > > > > problems > > > > > > > > > (seen in > > > > > > > > > > manifestation), depending upon the severity of affliction. > > > > > Generally > > > > > > > > > 90% of > > > > > > > > > > menstrual problems are due to hormonal disturbances. Here > > > > > venus > > > > > > > (karak > > > > > > > > > for > > > > > > > > > > hormones and reproductive system) is also afflicted and so > > > > > many > > > > > > > > > planets get > > > > > > > > > > involved with lagna lord totally combust, sun being 3L who > > > > > is the > > > > > > > > > dispositor > > > > > > > > > > of venus. The doctors may go into rounds of diagnosis, > > > > > with the > > > > > > > > > presence of > > > > > > > > > > ketu, never really getting to the problem. Till it solves > > > > > itself > > > > > > > after > > > > > > > > > > marriage. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I feel. Would like your feedback on this. > > > > > > > > > > By the way, has this girl been brought up by 2 mothers in > > > > > some way? > > > > > > > An > > > > > > > > > aunt > > > > > > > > > > also taking care of her, or grand mother. some motherly > > > > > association > > > > > > > > > apart > > > > > > > > > > from biological mother... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the dualities in her life...it'll be interesting > > > > > to > > > > > > > > > note...she may > > > > > > > > > > bear twins herself!!! > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards > > > > > > > > > > neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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