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Dear Renu ji,Thanks for your feedback and confirmation. I'll explain briefly how I arrived at tis conclusion:Probability

of sickness — based only the rashi chart:

Lagna is afflicted by

a strong mars from 6H, 8L JupiterLL is badly afflicted in R/K axis and papkatri. Moon

and sun both afflicted. 1,5,9 and luminaries affliction

showing a fructification of past birth karma.8L Jupiter afflicted

by 6L/7L strong Saturn, and venus who is dispositor of Saturn and rahu. The lord of 9H and

aries, himself gone to 6H of diseases, and aspects hospitals and lagna.So there seems to be a promise of major illness in the native's life

Disease

producing planets:

Saturn is number one.

Being marak 6L/7L in 3H. Aspects 5L/8L Jupiter, 9H, is in 12H from LL sun.

Afflicts 2/12 houses from sun. Saturn also afflicts moon and cancer and 12H. Jupiter in his dasha

will become a target of Saturn as the sambandh is completely effective.Both Saturn (karakatwa) and Jup

(8th lordship) become karaks of chronic illness.

Whereabouts

of disease:

All the planets are

pointing towards aries-taurus junction (also see this in bhava chart). So that is

the point of affliction. Could be head area upto beginning of neck. May be

the medulla oblongata which is the extension of brain in the vertebral column and

pivotal point of the neck.

I say this

for following reasons:

Jupiter with venus,

mars, saturn with moon all pointing at aries-taurusJupiter is 8L with 3/10L venus (saturn's dispositor) aspects 9H and aries.Saturn (marak) 6L/7L

exalted in 3H also a dusthana, aspecting 8L Jupiter in 5H, 9H and 12H of

hospitals. So Saturn makes the native pay for his past deeds by affecting his

prarabdh also. Both Jupiter and Saturn become responsible for chronic illness. Jupiter gives a

tumour, but Saturn does not let it grow too much, so may be it remains in the

form of a hard, overgrown cyst.

Timing of

disease:

The disease would start

in the dasha chhidra of Rahu-mars. See how they are connected with rahu

aspecting mars and 6H. Some symptoms would surely start with rahu-mars coinciding with transit of rahu over natal rahu.Rahu afflicts LL sun also. And goes to 9H in bhava-chalit.

In transit, rahu is

over natal rahu in 2002-03. So one can see the brewing of worms.Since the sat-Ju combo

is not directly involved in Rahu-mars dasha, we see the manifestation only when Jupiter MD starts

and Saturn antar takes him to hospital with mars also aspecting 12H, gives

operation.Rahu is quietly doing

its job in transit also, as you'll notice that at the beginning of Saturn dasha, when the

operation would take place, rahu is conjunct natal rahu (in the last week of

July 2003)In this period, Saturn aspects lagna,

mars aspects lagna, Jupiter has been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and

mercury, venus all joining him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week of july or immediately after.

This is only analyzing

the rashi chart. If we look at vargas, it can become even more revealing…I'll be glad to have your feedback on this.regardsneelamOn 25/03/2008, sunil nair <

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Dear Sunil ji,Thanks, its all fun and learning hand in hand.Please join in when you're free so that we get your valuable inputs.RegardsneelamOn 25/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote:

 

 

 

 

 

hare ramakrishna

dear neelam ji ,

 

congrats ,as usual i am jealous

 

keep it up ,these days i am busy lil ,will catch with grp soon .

 

regrds sunil nair

om shreem mahalaxmai namah

, " renunw " <renunw wrote:

>> Dear Neelam ji,> > I am absolutely amazed at your observation....which no astrologer, > not even the best in Sri Lanka could neither predict nor could do a > post mortem!!!....Congratulations !!! Yes, it was the head area,

> just above the neck...> > My blessings to you for... enhancement of your knowledge to serve > mankind...> > Renu> > > > > , " neelam gupta "

> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > thanks for all the details/.> > Before I proceed please tell me if this boy had some kind of cyst > or tumour> > in the head area/brain which showed up as soon as his Jup MD

> started??> > Setting of a chronic ailment is quite clear in this case.> > Regards> > neelam> > > > On 24/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam ji,

> > >> > > Thanks....Looking forward to your observations..> > >> > > blessings,> > >> > > Renu> > >> > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " neelam gupta " > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > > >> > > > Thanks Renu ji,> > > >> > > > I hope you know the other one. Sent by Sreenivas ji:> > > 21.11.1984/20.15/Vizag> > > > ...it is Gemini lagna and I think yours is leo lagna

> > > >> > > > I'll make the chart and give you my observations.> > > >> > > > regards> > > > neelam> > > >> > > >

> > > >> > > >> > > > On 24/03/2008, renunw <renunw@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > >> > > > > " That makes two of 21 st nov 1984 borns known to us. We could

> > > compare and> > > > > see the results of the same saturn for different lagnas/or > may> > > be same> > > > > lagna??...time twins!!!. Why don't you give the birth data of

> > > this boy. " > > > > >> > > > > Willingly...> > > > >> > > > > The mother of the boy is a very nice lady....hence would not

> > > mind giving> > > > > his son's chart if it is going to be useful for our studies:)> > > > >> > > > > 21st November 1984 @ 1.21 AM in Colombo, Sri Lanka.

> > > > >> > > > > I will send you the charts of these kids later ...tonight > most> > > probably:)> > > > >> > > > > blessings

> > > > >> > > > > Renu> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " neelam gupta " > > > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote:

> > > > > >> > > > > > Very interesting Renu ji,> > > > > >> > > > > > That makes two of 21 st nov 1984 borns known to us. We > could

> > > compare and> > > > > see> > > > > > the results of the same saturn for different lagnas/or may > be> > > same> > > > > > lagna??...time twins!!!. Why don't you give the birth data

> of> > > this boy.> > > > > >> > > > > > Also, since you also have an exalted saturn, makes you 54-> 55> > > born....> > > > > you

> > > > > > may not see so much of movement towards west....with the > world> > > becoming> > > > > > smaller now and easy access to faraway places...it seems

> > > saturn is> > > > > having a> > > > > > good time with these kids...> > > > > >> > > > > > If you have some charts of that age group...having gone

> more> > > than half> > > > > way> > > > > > through their lives, we could analyse some happenings in > those> > > charts> > > > > > vis-s-vis the newer generation.

> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > neelam> > > > > >> > > > > > On 24/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote:> > > > > > >

> > > > > > > Dear Sreeram ji,> > > > > > >> > > > > > > You are always welcome to our discussions as your spices> > > make our> > > > > curries

> > > > > > > more tasteful :)> > > > > > >> > > > > > > The Virgo boy I mentioned finished his degree in> > > engineering, though> > > > > > > initially he wanted to do electronics. But all of them

> > > offered Maths> > > > > stream> > > > > > > for their A/L examination.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > A boy known to me born on *21st Nov 84, *in Sri Lanka

> tried> > > to go to> > > > > West> > > > > > > with the commencement of his Jupiter Dasa, but due to a> > > malignant> > > > > tumour

> > > > > > > [now cured] he finished his degree in SL....lives in the> > > West of the> > > > > > > country. May be his Sa dasa will take him to West. He did

> > > Business> > > > > > > Management.> > > > > > >> > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Renu

> > > > > > >> > > > > > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " sreeram> > > srinivas " > > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Namaste Madam(s) ji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Let me contribute another set of data to this all

> females> > > > > discussioin.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Female, Gemini Lagna, 21-Nov.-1984, 20:15hrs,> > > Visakhapatnam also

> > > > > called> > > > > > > > Visag or Waltair {sub village of city Visakhapatnam> > > {correct> > > > > > > > spelling}now merged into one original city, some people

> > > even spell> > > > > it as> > > > > > > > - VisHakapatnam}.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > She {graduate in electronics & communication engg} got

> > > recruited> > > > > during> > > > > > > > campus interview mid Year 2005 and out of many Indian> > > offices that> > > > > were

> > > > > > > > possible she was asked to report to Mumbai office. i.e.> > > West side to> > > > > > > > Hyderabad. She was also running Saturn Mahadasha from

> Year> > > 2003.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Let me know if this small set of hororscopes in > discussion> > > have any> > > > > > > > relation to Electronics or Communication Engg. Though

> it is> > > > > connected> > > > > > > > to 5H, not seen much interest in further studies in the> > > cases that I> > > > > > > > came across.

> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " neelam> > > gupta " > > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > > Thanks for confirming the results.> > > > > > > > > The real culprit appears to be saturn in Libra.

> Though> > > mars seems> > > > > to> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > played its role depending on its lordship.> > > > > > > > > Saturn in Libra in natural seventh house, exalted,

> gives> > > its full> > > > > > > > support> > > > > > > > > for westwards travel. Saravali also says that a > person> > > with saturn

> > > > > in> > > > > > > > libra> > > > > > > > > will earn money and honours in foreign lands. In 83-> 84> > > borns, the

> > > > > > > > aspect of> > > > > > > > > Jupiter is missing, rather saturn aspects Jupiter, > thus> > > having its> > > > > > > > way.

> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > In your first case of aquarius lagna, the girl would> > > work and earn> > > > > > > > abroad

> > > > > > > > > as:> > > > > > > > > Saturn as LL and 12L in 9H will give long journeys,> > > which a person> > > > > > > > will

> > > > > > > > > undertake with his own efforts for work (mars with> > > saturn as 3L> > > > > and> > > > > > > > 10L).> > > > > > > > > Since saturn and mars form a Rajyog in 9H, and this

> > > saturn aspects> > > > > 2L> > > > > > > > and> > > > > > > > > 11L jupiter in 11th house, the native will get good> > > money and

> > > > > position> > > > > > > > > abroad. Rest will depend on the dasha sequence.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > neelam> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > On 23/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > " Another point I would like to tell you, while on

> 83-> > > 84 natives> > > > > is> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > affliction to libra. For a long time you get mars

> with> > > saturn.> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Though saturn is exalted, most of them are also > doing> > > well, but

> > > > > I> > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > generally seen:> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > - *These natives have gone away from their birth

> > > places for> > > > > study> > > > > > > > > > etc. in their early years. " *> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > I agree with you and I have come across the given

> > > combination in> > > > > > > > quite a> > > > > > > > > > number of horoscopes. To name a few,> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Aquarius lagna girl born in 84= Sa + Ma in 9H Libra> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Virgo lagna boy born in 84 = Sa + Ma in 2H Libra

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > Saggitarius lagna 2 boys born in 84 = Sa + Ma in > 11H> > > Libra> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Pisces lagna boy born in 84 = Sa + Ma in 8H Libra> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > But tell me why would Mars + Saturn in *Libra*

> > > would 'ship' the> > > > > > > > children> > > > > > > > > > abroad for studies?> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > I am fascinated by your correct analysis :)> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " neelam gupta " > > > > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for your feedback. I have seen this in

> many> > > cases...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Another point I would like to tell you, while on > 83-> > > 84 natives

> > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > > > affliction to libra. For a long time you get mars> > > with saturn.

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Though saturn is exalted, most of them are also> > > doing well,> > > > > but I

> > > > > > > > > > have> > > > > > > > > > > generally seen:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > - These natives have gone away from their birth

> > > places for> > > > > study> > > > > > > > > > etc.> > > > > > > > > > > in their early years.> > > > > > > > > > > - The girls are generally facing problems

> related to> > > > > reproductive> > > > > > > > > > > system...disturbances in the menstrual cycle (as > in> > > this> > > > > present

> > > > > > > > > > case),> > > > > > > > > > > cysts in uterus (one girl already had a surgery > to> > > remove the> > > > > > > > > > cyst), other

> > > > > > > > > > > problems...etc.> > > > > > > > > > > - They are likely to marry a person with a more > than> > > normal> > > > > age

> > > > > > > > > > > difference. (one of the girls recently got > married,> > > her> > > > > husband is> > > > > > > > > > 5 years

> > > > > > > > > > > elder to her (saturn), but looks young like a > school> > > boy> > > > > (mars)> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > ...keep and eye and please keep me posted...> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > regards

> > > > > > > > > > > neelam> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > On 23/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > First of all let me say sorry to you regarding

> the> > > girl's> > > > > > > > > > horoscope and> > > > > > > > > > > > dualities in her life..> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I contacted her mother and confirms your > findings.> > > Yes, this> > > > > > > > > > girl, is very> > > > > > > > > > > > attached to her grand mother. When she was

> small> > > she would> > > > > not> > > > > > > > > > allow grandma> > > > > > > > > > > > to leave her etc.etc.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > When it came to her shcooling at 5+, she had > got> > > admission> > > > > to 2

> > > > > > > > > > very good> > > > > > > > > > > > & popular schools, when mostly others would > have> > > to fight> > > > > with

> > > > > > > > > > the support> > > > > > > > > > > > of bogus documents to get a good school.> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > It is kind of she would not stick to her first> > > selection.> > > > > Even> > > > > > > > > > when it

> > > > > > > > > > > > came to her university education, first she was> > > studying in> > > > > > > > > > California and> > > > > > > > > > > > then half way [as she missed her boy friend]

> she> > > came to Sri> > > > > > > > > > Lanka and> > > > > > > > > > > > joined a private university here to complete > her

> > > major. She> > > > > > > > > > changed her> > > > > > > > > > > > major..half way.> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > She has had 2 serious relationships with and > both> > > ended, not> > > > > due> > > > > > > > > > to her

> > > > > > > > > > > > fault. In fact she is keen to ger married but > with> > > all her> > > > > > > > > > beauty,brains and> > > > > > > > > > > > money...she has not found the right partner.

> > > Mother is> > > > > worried> > > > > > > > > > that she> > > > > > > > > > > > would have two marriages....since she [mother]

> > > says that> > > > > life> > > > > > > > > > has been a> > > > > > > > > > > > duality so far....Congratulations on your

> > > analysis!!!> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > " This bit about two mothers is a Saravali > dictum,> > > which says

> > > > > > > > > > that a person> > > > > > > > > > > > having moon in gemini will have two mothers. " > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks for this..> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > " Since gemini is a dual sign and moon is for

> > > mother, I guess> > > > > it> > > > > > > > > > makes> > > > > > > > > > > > sense. " > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > I know another boy born a few hours after that> > > girl, but> > > > > Aries> > > > > > > > > > langna,

> > > > > > > > > > > > Moon in Gemini. He is more attached to his > grand> > > mother. He> > > > > > > > > > lived with his> > > > > > > > > > > > grandma for a long time.

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > So your anaysis holds good :)> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > " with sun in gemini, could see if there is any

> > > other> > > > > father-like> > > > > > > > > > figure> > > > > > > > > > > > apart from her father...you know the

> extensions... " > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > I would say 'yes' to this too. She always > would go

> > > for a> > > > > > > > > > father-like> > > > > > > > > > > > figure to give her protection and that is the > kind> > > of

> > > > > husband> > > > > > > > > > she is looking> > > > > > > > > > > > for. She is attached to her father too.> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > --- In

> > > > <%

> 40>,> > > " neelam> > > > > gupta " > > > > > > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renuji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > This bit about two mothers is a Saravali

> dictum,> > > which> > > > > says> > > > > > > > > > that a> > > > > > > > > > > > person> > > > > > > > > > > > > having moon in gemini will have two mothers.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > I have seen it hold good many cases. In one > case> > > the girl> > > > > went> > > > > > > > > > to stay

> > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > her grandmother, in another one after school > she> > > went> > > > > abroad

> > > > > > > > > > and stayed> > > > > > > > > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > > > > her aunt for a long time....

> > > > > > > > > > > > > Since gemini is a dual sign and moon is for> > > mother, I> > > > > guess it> > > > > > > > > > makes

> > > > > > > > > > > > sense.> > > > > > > > > > > > > I extended it further and asked you about> > > duality as she> > > > > has

> > > > > > > > > > many> > > > > > > > > > > > planets in> > > > > > > > > > > > > gemini including the luminaries, thus making

> > > gemini an> > > > > > > > > > important sign> > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > her.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > with sun in gemini, could see if there is any> > > other> > > > > > > > > > father-like figure> > > > > > > > > > > > apart

> > > > > > > > > > > > > from her father...you know the extensions...> > > > > > > > > > > > > Since gemini happens to be the 5H and 5L

> mercury> > > is also> > > > > > > > > > there, I> > > > > > > > > > > > extended> > > > > > > > > > > > > it to a probability of having twins. Some

> other> > > parameters> > > > > of> > > > > > > > > > having> > > > > > > > > > > > twins> > > > > > > > > > > > > are also applicable here.

> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Please do keep me informed about her.> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > On 21/03/2008, renunw renunw@ wrote:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji,

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanks so much for your analysis taking > 5HL as> > > lagna,

> > > > > which> > > > > > > > > > never came> > > > > > > > > > > > > > into my dull head. This is the advantage of> > > discussing

> > > > > > > > > > astrological> > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues with learned members:)> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > So it is quite clear that her 5H taken > either> > > way, i.e.> > > > > as> > > > > > > > > > Aquarius

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > lagna or as Gemini lagna....is afflicted.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " By the way, has this girl been brought up

> by> > > 2 mothers> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > some way?> > > > > > > > > > > > An> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aunt also taking care of her, or grand

> mother.> > > some> > > > > motherly> > > > > > > > > > > > association> > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart from biological mother "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > My answer is 'no' to the above question. > Her> > > mother had

> > > > > been> > > > > > > > > > & is with> > > > > > > > > > > > > > her always and the mother and daughter are > the

> > > best of> > > > > > > > > > friends. But> > > > > > > > > > > > > > kindly tell me..why you asked such a > question?

> > > What> > > > > > > > > > astrological> > > > > > > > > > > > > > principle indicates duality in her > life? ....I> > > cannot

> > > > > think> > > > > > > > > > of any> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dualities as such....Yet I will surely pass> > > the good

> > > > > news> > > > > > > > > > .... " she may> > > > > > > > > > > > > > bear twins herself!!!... " to her. She would

> > > love to hear> > > > > it.> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> <%> 40>

> > > > > > > > > > > > <%40>,> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > " neelam gupta "

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....My question is how can this hormone

> > > imbalance be> > > > > > > > > > explained from> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > her planetary> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > configuration in 5H?

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Let me try to analyse the situation.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I guess you get the answer when:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > You take 5H as ascendant. This has to be

> > > done as there> > > > > are> > > > > > > > > > 3> > > > > > > > > > > > > > conditions as> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > per classics:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - 1) There are many planets and maximum > no.> > > of planets

> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > 5H, that> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > makes it very strong.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - 2) The 5H is also the moon sign

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - 3) It is also the sun sign and becomes> > > importance> > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > health-related

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > issues> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > If you see from gemini as ascendant:

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Saturn is 8L and afflicts 5H and libra > by> > > placement,

> > > > > 7H> > > > > > > > > > by aspect,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 11 and aries by aspect, also 2H and > cancer

> > > by aspect> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - Jupiter is not a benefic for gemini, > and> > > it is> > > > > > > > > > retrograding in 6H

> > > > > > > > > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > scorpio. Thus afflicting the water > tatwa. As> > > a mark in

> > > > > 6H> > > > > > > > > > aspecting,> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 2H and> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > 12H

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - venus herself is not comfortable in leo> > > and her> > > > > signs> > > > > > > > > > are both

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > afflicted and dispositor afflicted in > lagna.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In the navamsha, taurus rises with

> venus> > > is in lagna> > > > > > > > > > with D-1 LL> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > mercury, maintain aspect by mars, saturn,

> > > and jupiter.> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - In shashtamsha, saturn debilitates in > 8H> > > with r/k,> > > > > > > > > > aspects

> > > > > > > > > > > > moon-mer> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > again in gemini and malefics flank venus > in> > > taurus,

> > > > > with> > > > > > > > > > Jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > still> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > maintaining the sambandh.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - See Jupiter is inimical in vargas --> > > rashi, navamsh,> > > > > > > > > > shatamsh> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > When moon & mars both are afflicted, > there> > > are

> > > > > menstrual> > > > > > > > > > problems> > > > > > > > > > > > > > (seen in> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > manifestation), depending upon the

> severity> > > of> > > > > affliction.> > > > > > > > > > Generally> > > > > > > > > > > > > > 90% of

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > menstrual problems are due to hormonal> > > disturbances.> > > > > Here> > > > > > > > > > venus

> > > > > > > > > > > > (karak> > > > > > > > > > > > > > for> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > hormones and reproductive system) is also

> > > afflicted> > > > > and so> > > > > > > > > > many> > > > > > > > > > > > > > planets get> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > involved with lagna lord totally combust,

> > > sun being 3L> > > > > who> > > > > > > > > > is the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > dispositor> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > of venus. The doctors may go into rounds

> of> > > diagnosis,> > > > > > > > > > with the> > > > > > > > > > > > > > presence of> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ketu, never really getting to the

> problem.> > > Till it> > > > > solves> > > > > > > > > > itself> > > > > > > > > > > > after> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > marriage.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This is what I feel. Would like your> > > feedback on this.

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > By the way, has this girl been brought > up by> > > 2 mothers> > > > > in> > > > > > > > > > some way?

> > > > > > > > > > > > An> > > > > > > > > > > > > > aunt> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > also taking care of her, or grand mother.

> > > some> > > > > motherly> > > > > > > > > > association> > > > > > > > > > > > > > apart> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > from biological mother...

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the dualities in her > life...it'll be> > > > > interesting

> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > > note...she may> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > bear twins herself!!!

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > neelam

> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >

> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >

> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >>

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Dear Neelam ji,

 

That was brilliant analysis...Hope this is going to be helpful to

many of us here.

 

I will give you the feedback and my views after confirming the dates

with boy's mom.

 

blessings

 

Renu

 

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji,

>

> Thanks for your feedback and confirmation. I'll explain briefly

how I

> arrived at tis conclusion:

>

> Probability of sickness — based only the rashi chart:

>

> - Lagna is afflicted by a strong mars from 6H, 8L Jupiter

> - LL is badly afflicted in R/K axis and papkatri.

> - Moon and sun both afflicted.

> - 1,5,9 and luminaries affliction showing a fructification of

past

> birth karma.

> - 8L Jupiter afflicted by 6L/7L strong Saturn, and venus who is

> dispositor of Saturn and rahu.

> - The lord of 9H and aries, himself gone to 6H of diseases, and

> aspects hospitals and lagna.

> - So there seems to be a promise of major illness in the

native's life

>

> Disease producing planets:

>

> - Saturn is number one. Being marak 6L/7L in 3H. Aspects 5L/8L

> Jupiter, 9H, is in 12H from LL sun. Afflicts 2/12 houses from

sun. Saturn

> also afflicts moon and cancer and 12H.

> - Jupiter in his dasha will become a target of Saturn as the

sambandh

> is completely effective.

> - Both Saturn (karakatwa) and Jup (8th lordship) become karaks

of

> chronic illness.

>

>

> Whereabouts of disease:

>

> All the planets are pointing towards aries-taurus junction (also

see this in

> bhava chart). So that is the point of affliction.

>

> Could be head area upto beginning of neck. May be the medulla

oblongata

> which is the extension of brain in the vertebral column and

pivotal point of

> the neck.

>

> I say this for following reasons:

>

> - Jupiter with venus, mars, saturn with moon all pointing at

> aries-taurus

> - Jupiter is 8L with 3/10L venus (saturn's dispositor) aspects

9H and

> aries.

> - Saturn (marak) 6L/7L exalted in 3H also a dusthana, aspecting

8L

> Jupiter in 5H, 9H and 12H of hospitals. So Saturn makes the

native pay for

> his past deeds by affecting his prarabdh also. Both Jupiter and

Saturn

> become responsible for chronic illness.

> - Jupiter gives a tumour, but Saturn does not let it grow too

much, so

> may be it remains in the form of a hard, overgrown cyst.

>

>

> Timing of disease:

>

> - The disease would start in the dasha chhidra of Rahu-mars.

See how

> they are connected with rahu aspecting mars and 6H. Some

symptoms would

> surely start with rahu-mars coinciding with transit of rahu

over natal

> rahu.

> - Rahu afflicts LL sun also. And goes to 9H in bhava-chalit.

> - In transit, rahu is over natal rahu in 2002-03. So one can

see the

> brewing of worms.

> - Since the sat-Ju combo is not directly involved in Rahu-mars

dasha, we

> see the manifestation only when Jupiter MD starts and Saturn

antar takes him

> to hospital with mars also aspecting 12H, gives operation.

> - Rahu is quietly doing its job in transit also, as you'll

notice that

> at the beginning of Saturn dasha, when the operation would take

place, rahu

> is conjunct natal rahu (in the last week of July 2003)

> - In this period, Saturn aspects lagna, mars aspects lagna,

Jupiter

> has been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and mercury,

venus all

> joining him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week

of july

> or immediately after.

>

> This is only analyzing the rashi chart. If we look at vargas, it

can become

> even more revealing…

> I'll be glad to have your feedback on this.

>

> regards

> neelam

>

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Dear Neelam ji,

 

With the help of Sreeram ji's table on MB degrees, I noticed that

this boy's Jupiter is very close to MB degree of Jupiter in

Saggitarius. So is his lagna Leo. May be this was another reason why

Jupiter did not give him a healthy life at the beginning of its dasa.

 

blessings

 

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Dear Renu ji,It could be....can't be confident about it as the difference in both cases is more than 1 degree.Normally we consider a tolerance limit of 1 degree on both sides of MB. That is why I didn't consider that.

RegardsneelamOn 25/03/2008, renunw <renunw wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam ji,

 

With the help of Sreeram ji's table on MB degrees, I noticed that

this boy's Jupiter is very close to MB degree of Jupiter in

Saggitarius. So is his lagna Leo. May be this was another reason why

Jupiter did not give him a healthy life at the beginning of its dasa.

 

blessings

 

Renu

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dear neelamji,

thanks for ur excellent analysis of the boy's illness.

I am giving u my sister's daughter's birth details.

 

dob ;16th june 1983

time: 4.10pm,

palce chennai.

she has exalted saturn in lagna.(libra)

at the age of 2 she had malarial fever and due to

delay in the diagnosis and treatment by the doctor,

she developed cerebral encephalopathy. she was

operated upon by a neuro surgeon to drain the fluid

and at the same time a drain pump was kept. after

operation she went to a stage of unconsciousness and

all her movements were involuntary. she was in this

state of condition for 6weeks after which she was

discharged without any improvement. the doctor said

only prayers can save her life. 2 months after her

discharge she developed jaundice and during the

treatment suddenly she came back to normal. All this

happened in venus mahadasa and venus bhukthi. is it

because of jupiter's aspect on jupiter and venus being

8th lord.

U can kindly give ur opinion whenever u find time.

at present the girl is perfectly normal she has

completed her postgraduation and works in a leading

software firm.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

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Dear K Gopu ji,I am giving below my analysis of the event in the native's life.

The culprit is not Saturn

in this case.

Native: Female,

16.6.1983/16.10/ChennaiThe analysis is based

on libra lagna at 28.46 degrees and vishakha nakshatra using lahiri's

ayanamsha.(Using only natal chart.)

Let us first see how the

planets are for this chart:

Venus is good for the

native as LL in 10H (very good) and as 8L in 10H is also good for profession (8th

is 11th from 10th), except for some changes in career. As

8L for longevity is also strong.

Saturn is strong yog

karak in lagna and aspects LL venus in 10H, thus producing a good Rajyoga.

So there's no problem with

venus and saturn

Jupiter is retrograde

3L and 6L in marak sthan. It aspects own 6H (enhancing disease producing

element) and 8H (by lordship curtails longevity), and LL and 8L venus. It also

disposits ketu. Jupiter is evil.

Mars is the planet to

watch out for. It is natural malefic, malefic for libra and venus. Here it is 2nd

and 7th lord in 8H of venus. Disposits disease karak Jupiter and aspects

this own 2nd house and ketu. Also aspects moon (causing balarisht).

Mars is with 9L and 12L mercury (as 9L in 8H will create problems). Also we

should not forget that Mars is very close to Rahu-sun close conjunctionIn navamsh,

Jupiter is in libra (D-1 lagna) and both venus and Saturn are in scorpio again

(sign of mars who disposits evil Jupiter).Another factor that

aggravates the problem is these three connected planets (venus, jup and mars) are

close to MB degrees.

Mars aided by Jupiter are the

real culprits

The girl is born with

a precarious set of planets and one can sense that there would be a matter of

life and death sometime. Mars-Jupiter combination could give evil results. But

at the same time venus-saturn are great saviours.

Now the question is

why did the girl fall ill in Jup PD and not mars PD?

Firstly, a malefic

always gives its results in the antar/pratyantar of another related malefic. (laghu

parashari, KNR)

Secondly one needs to

check when the transits are worse.

In this case, the first

rule applies and mars uses Jupiter to cause problems. As for second, I don't

have the exact dates of her sickness and treatment.

If you check the

transits of planets, I think Saturn was doing its rounds of retrogression and

passed from libra to scorpio in transition, it could be a heen Saturn in

Jupiter's nakshatra that let Jupiter have its way and later when Saturn

recovered, the child stabilized again. Rahu ketu axis was also on lagna, ketu

in lagna will give mysterious nature of disease. (if you can provide the time

of sickness and recovery, we could see further).

Ketu transiting in

lagna also becomes a key player as mars aspects ketu also in natal chart. Ketu

is the karak for malaria, the disease which in itself is hard to detect. Then

other planets caused complications. With so many planets, there are also many

dimensions to the sickness. Mainly the disease relates to ketu, mars and

Jupiter.

The transits in the

end of Jun 1985: LL venus gone to 7H (in mars'sign aries), close to Ra/ke

degrees, Saturn also with R/K and disease lord Jupiter debilitates in 4H, also

close to R/K. Mars keeps its aspect on Jupiter even in transit where he sits in

Gemini with sun and mercury. Jupiter is in control of ketu and Saturn through

nakshata (both in vishakha) and also Saturn through sign (jup in Capricorn).Since, there is no

danger to life as seen in the natal chart, the child recovers when the planets

disperse in transit and in dasha she gets VE-VE-SAT

Mars and

Jupiter should be watched for this native, as they would have the tendency to

give troubles in their antars and pratyantars, whenever transits are

unfavourable.

I hope I have made myself clear. Would look for your feedback....RegardsNeelamOn 26/03/2008, K Gopu <kgopu_24 wrote:

 

 

 

 

dear neelamji,

thanks for ur excellent analysis of the boy's illness.

I am giving u my sister's daughter's birth details.

 

dob ;16th june 1983

time: 4.10pm,

palce chennai.

she has exalted saturn in lagna.(libra)

at the age of 2 she had malarial fever and due to

delay in the diagnosis and treatment by the doctor,

she developed cerebral encephalopathy. she was

operated upon by a neuro surgeon to drain the fluid

and at the same time a drain pump was kept. after

operation she went to a stage of unconsciousness and

all her movements were involuntary. she was in this

state of condition for 6weeks after which she was

discharged without any improvement. the doctor said

only prayers can save her life. 2 months after her

discharge she developed jaundice and during the

treatment suddenly she came back to normal. All this

happened in venus mahadasa and venus bhukthi. is it

because of jupiter's aspect on jupiter and venus being

8th lord.

U can kindly give ur opinion whenever u find time.

at present the girl is perfectly normal she has

completed her postgraduation and works in a leading

software firm.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

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Namaste K Gopu

 

If I may just add to Neelam’s comments

……..

 

Event occurring in Ven/Ven/Jup is

understandable as period links LL,6th & 8th Lords

together ……. Would you mind checking as to whether it occurred between

19th June – 13th July ’85 ie during

Ven/Ven/Jup/Mer period which would include 12th Lord as well? See Trimsamsa

(D30) chart ……

 

Regarding Sani – being retro wouldn’t

say its aspects would be benefic always plus being 8th/9th

Lord in Navamsa with Venus in 6th hse …… Certainly around

2yrs of age Sani was transiting her Asc degree in Navamsa Lagna whilst Sun was being

eclipsed by natal Rahu ……..

 

Also Jaundice related to Jupiter being

Karaka of Liver – hence again understandable getting this disease during

said period of Ven/Ven/Jup …….

 

Best regards …….

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of neelam gupta

26 March 2008 11:39

 

Re:

Re: cluster of planets in 5H + hormone imbalance

 

 

 

 

 

Dear K

Gopu ji,

 

I am giving below my analysis of the event in the native's life.

The culprit is not Saturn in this case.

Native: Female,

16.6.1983/16.10/Chennai

The analysis is

based on libra lagna at 28.46 degrees and vishakha nakshatra using lahiri's ayanamsha.(Using

only natal chart.)

Let us first see how the planets are for this chart:

Venus is good for the native as LL in 10H (very good)

and as 8L in 10H is also good for profession (8th is 11th

from 10th), except for some changes in career. As 8L for longevity

is also strong.

Saturn is strong yog karak in lagna and aspects LL

venus in 10H, thus producing a good Rajyoga.

So there's no

problem with venus and saturn

Jupiter is

retrograde 3L and 6L in marak sthan. It aspects own 6H (enhancing disease producing

element) and 8H (by lordship curtails longevity), and LL and 8L venus. It also

disposits ketu. Jupiter is evil.

 

Mars is the planet

to watch out for. It is natural malefic, malefic for libra and venus. Here it

is 2nd and 7th lord in 8H of venus. Disposits disease

karak Jupiter and aspects this own 2nd house and ketu. Also aspects

moon (causing balarisht). Mars is with 9L and 12L mercury (as 9L in 8H will

create problems). Also we should not forget that Mars is very close to Rahu-sun

close conjunction

In navamsh, Jupiter is in libra (D-1 lagna) and both venus and

Saturn are in scorpio again (sign of mars who disposits evil Jupiter).

Another factor

that aggravates the problem is these three connected planets (venus, jup and

mars) are close to MB degrees.

Mars aided by Jupiter are the real

culprits

The girl is born with a precarious set of planets and one can

sense that there would be a matter of life and death sometime. Mars-Jupiter

combination could give evil results. But at the same time venus-saturn are

great saviours.

Now the question is why did the girl fall ill in Jup PD and not mars

PD?

Firstly, a malefic always gives its results

in the antar/pratyantar of another related malefic. (laghu

parashari, KNR)

Secondly one needs to check when the transits

are worse.

In this case, the

first rule applies and mars uses Jupiter to cause problems. As for second, I

don't have the exact dates of her sickness and treatment.

If you check the

transits of planets, I think Saturn was doing

its rounds of retrogression and passed from libra to scorpio in transition, it

could be a heen Saturn in Jupiter's nakshatra that let Jupiter have its way and

later when Saturn recovered, the child stabilized again. Rahu ketu axis was

also on lagna, ketu in lagna will give mysterious nature of disease. (if

you can provide the time of sickness and recovery, we could see further).

Ketu transiting in lagna also becomes a key

player as mars aspects ketu also in natal chart. Ketu is the karak for malaria,

the disease which in itself is hard to detect. Then other planets caused complications. With

so many planets, there are also many dimensions to the sickness. Mainly the

disease relates to ketu, mars and Jupiter.

The transits in the end of Jun 1985: LL venus gone to

7H (in mars'sign aries), close to Ra/ke degrees, Saturn also with R/K and

disease lord Jupiter debilitates in 4H, also close to R/K. Mars keeps its

aspect on Jupiter even in transit where he sits in Gemini with sun and mercury.

Jupiter is in control of ketu and Saturn through nakshata (both in vishakha)

and also Saturn through sign (jup in Capricorn).

 

Since, there is no danger to life as seen in the natal chart, the child

recovers when the planets disperse in transit and in dasha she gets VE-VE-SAT

Mars and Jupiter should be watched for this

native, as they would have the tendency to give troubles in their antars and

pratyantars, whenever transits are unfavourable.

 

I hope I have made myself clear. Would look for your feedback....

 

Regards

 

Neelam

 

On 26/03/2008, K

Gopu <kgopu_24 (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

wrote:

 

 

 

 

dear neelamji,

thanks for ur

excellent analysis of the boy's illness.

I am giving u my sister's daughter's birth details.

 

dob ;16th june 1983

time: 4.10pm,

palce chennai.

she has exalted saturn in lagna.(libra)

at the age of 2 she had malarial fever and due to

delay in the diagnosis and treatment by the doctor,

she developed cerebral encephalopathy. she was

operated upon by a neuro surgeon to drain the fluid

and at the same time a drain pump was kept. after

operation she went to a stage of unconsciousness and

all her movements were involuntary. she was in this

state of condition for 6weeks after which she was

discharged without any improvement. the doctor said

only prayers can save her life. 2 months after her

discharge she developed jaundice and during the

treatment suddenly she came back to normal. All this

happened in venus mahadasa and venus bhukthi. is it

because of jupiter's aspect on jupiter and venus being

8th lord.

U can kindly give ur

opinion whenever u find time.

at present the girl is perfectly normal she has

completed her postgraduation and works in a leading

software firm.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

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Dear Neelam ji,

Let me brief you with how the events unfolded once the tumour was diagnosed ...as Ewing's Sarcoma of occipital skull.

"In this period, Saturn aspects lagna, mars aspects lagna, Jupiter has been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and mercury, venus all joining him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week of july or immediately after."

1. August 2003 - noticing a lump in the particular area, which no one thought would be malignant.

2. December 11, 2003 - 1st operation.

3. December 19, 2003 - Biopsy report with unexpeted results.

4. December 27, 2003 - 2nd operation - removing a vast area taking no chance of leaving a malignant cell..

5. Jan 19, 2004 - confirmation of the 1st biopsy report.

6. Feb 5 , 2004 - commencement of chemotherapy..lasted till July 2004 [in Singapore].

7. October 31, 2004 - commencement of radiation treatment.

Now he is completey cured, finished his Business Management degree and awaiting for a job.

One more step to go...that is to go for plastic surgery.

Thanks so much for the 'study' you posted. This is what I call learning :)

blessings

Renu

, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji,> > Thanks for your feedback and confirmation. I'll explain briefly how I> arrived at tis conclusion:> > Probability of sickness — based only the rashi chart:> > - Lagna is afflicted by a strong mars from 6H, 8L Jupiter> - LL is badly afflicted in R/K axis and papkatri.> - Moon and sun both afflicted.> - 1,5,9 and luminaries affliction showing a fructification of past> birth karma.> - 8L Jupiter afflicted by 6L/7L strong Saturn, and venus who is> dispositor of Saturn and rahu.> - The lord of 9H and aries, himself gone to 6H of diseases, and> aspects hospitals and lagna.> - So there seems to be a promise of major illness in the native's life> > Disease producing planets:> > - Saturn is number one. Being marak 6L/7L in 3H. Aspects 5L/8L> Jupiter, 9H, is in 12H from LL sun. Afflicts 2/12 houses from sun. Saturn> also afflicts moon and cancer and 12H.> - Jupiter in his dasha will become a target of Saturn as the sambandh> is completely effective.> - Both Saturn (karakatwa) and Jup (8th lordship) become karaks of> chronic illness.> > > Whereabouts of disease:> > All the planets are pointing towards aries-taurus junction (also see this in> bhava chart). So that is the point of affliction.> > Could be head area upto beginning of neck. May be the medulla oblongata> which is the extension of brain in the vertebral column and pivotal point of> the neck.> > I say this for following reasons:> > - Jupiter with venus, mars, saturn with moon all pointing at> aries-taurus> - Jupiter is 8L with 3/10L venus (saturn's dispositor) aspects 9H and> aries.> - Saturn (marak) 6L/7L exalted in 3H also a dusthana, aspecting 8L> Jupiter in 5H, 9H and 12H of hospitals. So Saturn makes the native pay for> his past deeds by affecting his prarabdh also. Both Jupiter and Saturn> become responsible for chronic illness.> - Jupiter gives a tumour, but Saturn does not let it grow too much, so> may be it remains in the form of a hard, overgrown cyst.> > > Timing of disease:> > - The disease would start in the dasha chhidra of Rahu-mars. See how> they are connected with rahu aspecting mars and 6H. Some symptoms would> surely start with rahu-mars coinciding with transit of rahu over natal> rahu.> - Rahu afflicts LL sun also. And goes to 9H in bhava-chalit.> - In transit, rahu is over natal rahu in 2002-03. So one can see the> brewing of worms.> - Since the sat-Ju combo is not directly involved in Rahu-mars dasha, we> see the manifestation only when Jupiter MD starts and Saturn antar takes him> to hospital with mars also aspecting 12H, gives operation.> - Rahu is quietly doing its job in transit also, as you'll notice that> at the beginning of Saturn dasha, when the operation would take place, rahu> is conjunct natal rahu (in the last week of July 2003)> - In this period, Saturn aspects lagna, mars aspects lagna, Jupiter> has been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and mercury, venus all> joining him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week of july> or immediately after.> > This is only analyzing the rashi chart. If we look at vargas, it can become> even more revealing…> I'll be glad to have your feedback on this.> > regards> neelam>

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Dear Renu ji,

 

Thanks for your feedback. So we can see jupiter and saturn playing their

malefic role and this boy had problem in Ju-Ju which continued in Ju-Sa.

 

Most of the times, big events happen as soon as we have the new MD/AD.

Either it is the dasha of a karak and he gets the field to himself and does

good, or it is the hardcore malefic who himself plays havoc, or else it is

some vulnerable lord's dahsa and the others get a chance to pounce on it.

This is only my observation.

 

There was another case of Mr K Gopu, on which I have sent my comments today,

where Ve-Ve proved to be inauspicious.,,same 1983 born, but here venus was

the vulnerable lagna and 8L pitted against Jupiter and mars. Saturn is

yogkarak in this case.

 

Regards

neelam

 

On 26/03/2008, renunw <renunw wrote:

>

> Dear Neelam ji,

>

> Let me brief you with how the events unfolded once the tumour was

> diagnosed ...as Ewing's Sarcoma of occipital skull.

>

> " In this period, Saturn aspects lagna, mars aspects lagna, Jupiter has

> been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and mercury, venus all joining

> him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week of july or

> immediately after. "

>

> 1. August 2003 - noticing a lump in the particular area, which no one

> thought would be malignant.

>

> 2. December 11, 2003 - 1st operation.

>

> 3. December 19, 2003 - Biopsy report with unexpeted results.

>

> 4. December 27, 2003 - 2nd operation - removing a vast area taking no

> chance of leaving a malignant cell..

>

> 5. Jan 19, 2004 - confirmation of the 1st biopsy report.

>

> 6. Feb 5 , 2004 - commencement of chemotherapy..lasted till July 2004 [in

> Singapore].

>

> 7. October 31, 2004 - commencement of radiation treatment.

>

> Now he is completey cured, finished his Business Management degree and

> awaiting for a job.

>

> One more step to go...that is to go for plastic surgery.

>

> Thanks so much for the 'study' you posted. This is what I call learning :)

>

> blessings

>

> Renu

>

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dear Neelamji,

I thank u for the pin point analysis.

I am giving the date on which she fell ill and also

the date of full recovery.

 

My niece fell ill by end of dec 1984 and the condition

worsened around

10th jan 1985. Her operation was done by end of jan 85

and was in the

hospital till end of mar 85. she developed jaundice

around end of april85

and once again admitted in a hospital and after a week

maybe middle of

may 85 she regained all her faculties. However she was

back to normal

only by end of July85. as per ur analysis saturn & ketu

was in jup star by

jan 85 which made the condition worse. transit mars is

also aspectin

8th house of the natal chart.

if i see the transit on jun 15th 1985 saturn and ketu

is back to libra,

jup is in capricorn, and mars is in gemini. these

factors favoured her to come back to normalcy.

 

 

If I am not taking too much advantage, Can u please

tell me how will her

married life be. I find 7th lord mars in 8th along

with mercury in the natal chart with the aspect

of jupiter. but if i take the 7th lord from moon,

saturn is exalted, which appears to be favourable.

currently she runs sun mahadasa. will her marriage be

fixed during venus antar

dasa?

 

thank u once again,

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

Native: Female, 16.6.1983/16. 10/Chennai

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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dear shri ram,

thanks for the interest u had evinced in my niece's

horoscope> i am providing u the details u had asked

for.

 

My niece fell ill by end of dec 1984 and the condition

worsened around

10th jan 1985. Her operation was done by end of jan 85

and was in the

hospital till end of mar 85. she developed jaundice

around end of april85

and once again admitted in a hospital and after a week

maybe middle of

may 85 she regained all her faculties. However she was

back to normal

only by end of July85.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

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Namaste Mr. K Gopu_24 ji,

 

Kindly stand corrected, the credit goes to Ms Neelam madam ji for doing

the analysis, Ms. Renu madamji for starting the thread i.e. a old

thread back to life !! sustained through daily dailysis by Dr.

Madam.....etc.

 

Let me also mention that this thread has been mostly " all females "

mostly, the best thread so far, with clear focus and NO side tracking of

issue { in any in the recent past time}.

 

I am only an onlooker.

 

With regards,

 

Sreeram_Srinivas

, K Gopu <kgopu_24

wrote:

>

> dear shri ram,

> thanks for the interest u had evinced in my niece's

> horoscope> i am providing u the details u had asked

> for.

>

> My niece fell ill by end of dec 1984 and the condition

> worsened around

> 10th jan 1985. Her operation was done by end of jan 85

> and was in the

> hospital till end of mar 85. she developed jaundice

> around end of april85

> and once again admitted in a hospital and after a week

> maybe middle of

> may 85 she regained all her faculties. However she was

> back to normal

> only by end of July85.

>

> good wishes,

> k.gopu

>

>

>

>

>

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dear shri ram jaswal,

thanks for the interest u had evinced in my niece's

horoscope> i am providing u the details u had asked

for.

 

My niece fell ill by end of dec 1984 and the condition

worsened around

10th jan 1985. Her operation was done by end of jan 85

and was in the

hospital till end of mar 85. she developed jaundice

around end of april85

and once again admitted in a hospital and after a week

maybe middle of

may 85 she regained all her faculties. However she was

back to normal

only by end of July85.

 

good wishes,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

 

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Dear Neelam ji,

 

Thanks for the notes based on your observations...which I feel are

pretty accurate.

 

Your analysis on Gopu ji's case is interesting and useful...thanks

once again.

 

Different planets bringing misfortune to different individuals only

proves that the cause for trouble is not the planets but one's own

past misdeeds or wrongful actions/thoughts.

 

blessings,

 

Renu

 

 

 

, " neelam gupta "

<neelamgupta07 wrote:

>

> Dear Renu ji,

>

> Thanks for your feedback. So we can see jupiter and saturn playing

their

> malefic role and this boy had problem in Ju-Ju which continued in

Ju-Sa.

>

> Most of the times, big events happen as soon as we have the new

MD/AD.

> Either it is the dasha of a karak and he gets the field to himself

and does

> good, or it is the hardcore malefic who himself plays havoc, or

else it is

> some vulnerable lord's dahsa and the others get a chance to pounce

on it.

> This is only my observation.

>

> There was another case of Mr K Gopu, on which I have sent my

comments today,

> where Ve-Ve proved to be inauspicious.,,same 1983 born, but here

venus was

> the vulnerable lagna and 8L pitted against Jupiter and mars.

Saturn is

> yogkarak in this case.

>

> Regards

> neelam

>

> On 26/03/2008, renunw <renunw wrote:

> >

> > Dear Neelam ji,

> >

> > Let me brief you with how the events unfolded once the tumour was

> > diagnosed ...as Ewing's Sarcoma of occipital skull.

> >

> > " In this period, Saturn aspects lagna, mars aspects lagna,

Jupiter has

> > been in 12H now for quite a while, now sun and mercury, venus

all joining

> > him in 12H. The stage seems to be set…in the last week of july or

> > immediately after. "

> >

> > 1. August 2003 - noticing a lump in the particular area, which

no one

> > thought would be malignant.

> >

> > 2. December 11, 2003 - 1st operation.

> >

> > 3. December 19, 2003 - Biopsy report with unexpeted results.

> >

> > 4. December 27, 2003 - 2nd operation - removing a vast area

taking no

> > chance of leaving a malignant cell..

> >

> > 5. Jan 19, 2004 - confirmation of the 1st biopsy report.

> >

> > 6. Feb 5 , 2004 - commencement of chemotherapy..lasted till July

2004 [in

> > Singapore].

> >

> > 7. October 31, 2004 - commencement of radiation treatment.

> >

> > Now he is completey cured, finished his Business Management

degree and

> > awaiting for a job.

> >

> > One more step to go...that is to go for plastic surgery.

> >

> > Thanks so much for the 'study' you posted. This is what I call

learning :)

> >

> > blessings

> >

> > Renu

> >

>

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Namaste K Gopu

 

thank you for the additional dates ......

 

Your Niece fell ill end of Dec '84 in Ven/Ven/Rahu/Sat ........ Hoping I am Not stretching the imagination regarding Rahu's involvement But using Ven as Paka (Asc Lord)/Temp (MD Lord) Asc then Rahu in 12th from it afflicting Sun (vitality) will definitely give rise to physical ill health ..... Note Rahu/Sat are 8th Lords from this Paka/Temp Asc ....... Also during Transits for this timeframe Natal Rahu was afflicting Transit Ven in Aqu to the degree and Transit Sani was with Ketu in the 2nd Hse ....

 

Interestingly relief seems to have occurred in Ven/Ven/Jup/Jup (mid May'85) even though Jup is 6th Lord from Both Natal Asc and Paka/Temp Asc and aspects Ven? Perhaps it being Retro may have helped?

 

Hope you don't mind my asking But has she been ok Health wise during her Ven/Rahu period (25/10/90 - 25/10/93)?

 

Best regards ......

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

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dear shri ram,thanks for the interest u had evinced in my niece's horoscope> i am providing u the details u had askedfor. My niece fell ill by end of dec 1984 and the conditionworsened around10th jan 1985. Her operation was done by end of jan 85and was in the hospital till end of mar 85. she developed jaundicearound end of april85and once again admitted in a hospital and after a weekmaybe middle of may 85 she regained all her faculties. However she wasback to normalonly by end of July85. good wishes,k.gopu________Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs

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dear shri Ram jaswal,

thanks for ur interest in the chart. Since my niece

underwent a major operation in the cerebral region,

she was always weak upto the age of 10yrs and

subsequently she has become healthy and quite active.

 

good wisehs,

k.gopu

 

 

 

 

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Namaste K Gopu

 

Glad to hear it – pass on my good

wishes to both her and her family …..

 

Jai Sita Ram

 

Ram

 

 

 

 

 

On Behalf Of K Gopu

29 March 2008 10:46

 

Re:

Re: cluster of planets in 5H + hormone imbalance

 

 

 

 

 

dear shri

Ram jaswal,

thanks for ur

interest in the chart. Since my niece

underwent a major operation in the cerebral region,

she was always weak upto the age of 10yrs and

subsequently she has become healthy and quite active.

 

good wisehs,

k.gopu

 

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