5H_Saturn....Rare case...Addendum Mr. Krishna

March 9, 2008

Dear Mr. Krishna

Where did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?

The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani: "

clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits

and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.

Tatvam-Asi

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Nameisego ji,

>

> I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th

house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father.

Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for

father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't understand how this

can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

> nameisego <nameisego wrote:

> Dear Krishnaji,

>

> The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic

> rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that.

> In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was

done.

> The woman carried the child all along.

>

> I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this

> jathaka has Guru in 9th.

> I do follow the dictum, " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva "

>

> TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.

>

> One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.

> And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)

>

> Be blessed

>

> Tatvam-Asi

>

> , Krishnamurthy

> Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Nameiego ji,

> >

> > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow

> instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before.

> Thanks for sharing.

> >

> > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's

> father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed

> that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took

> place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the

> father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi

> (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is

> also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.

> >

> > Also, I did not understand what is TBOMK.

> >

> > Regards,

> > Krishna

> :

>

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>

March 9, 2008

Dear Nameisego ji, Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also heard about "Karakao bhava naashya..", hence the confusion. Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that Jupiter destroys the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house it occupies. Do you think it is applicable to all charts or is there a rider or something else to look for before applying the dictum? And, should we look at Rasi chart or Bhava chart to apply this dictum? I am asking this question because Jupiter changes house in my Bhava chart. Please clarify. Regards, Krishna nameisego <nameisego wrote: Dear Mr. KrishnaWhere did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani:"clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.Tatvam-Asi , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Nameisego ji,> > I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father. Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't

understand how this can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...> > Regards,> Krishna> > nameisego <nameisego wrote:> Dear Krishnaji,> > The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic > rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that. > In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was done.> The woman carried the child all along.> > I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this > jathaka has Guru in 9th.> I do follow the dictum, "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva"> > TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.> > One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.> And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)> > Be blessed> > Tatvam-Asi> > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:> >> > Dear Nameiego ji,> > > > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow > instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before. > Thanks for sharing.> > > > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's > father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed > that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took > place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the > father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi > (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is > also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.> > > > Also, I did not understand

what is TBOMK.> > > > Regards,> > Krishna> :> >> > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.>

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March 9, 2008

The dictum is very clear . It says " Bhava " .

You need to check if it applies to not only you but also all friend's

and relatives charts to say that the dictum holds water or not.

For me, I have seen it giving resonably correct result as the dictum

says.

, Krishnamurthy

Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:

>

> Dear Nameisego ji,

>

> Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also

heard about " Karakao bhava naashya.. " , hence the confusion.

>

> Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that

Jupiter destroys the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house

it occupies. Do you think it is applicable to all charts or is there

a rider or something else to look for before applying the dictum?

And, should we look at Rasi chart or Bhava chart to apply this

dictum? I am asking this question because Jupiter changes house in my

Bhava chart. Please clarify.

>

> Regards,

> Krishna

>

March 10, 2008

Dear Nameisego ji, In my chart, Jupiter falls into 2nd bhava (either equal house bhava or Sripathi bhava). - My basic education was good, no failures, no sufferings - My finances are pretty good. Did not have to take any loan so far. Pretty comfortable in my fianances. I could plan my retirement at the age of 47. I am not working to earn money now. - My family life - no complaints so far, pretty normal. Married for past 24 years, two children, first one got married, have one grand daughter. I have been enjoying my free time with her. - My speech - No problems so far for the past 50 years. - My food habits - pretty normal, not alcoholic, not a drug addict, a vegetarian, non-smoker. More importantly, I have enough to eat. Please tell me if I am not looking at the right things or if I have missed out anything because of my

limited knowledge in Astrology. I don't see even a small hint about the dictum you have quoted. With this result, I think I don't need to look at more charts to explore it further. I guess Guru has done a pretty good job in my case. I am very thankful to him. Regards, Krishna nameisego <nameisego wrote: The dictum is very clear . It says "Bhava". You need to check if it applies to not only you but also all friend's and relatives charts to say that

the dictum holds water or not.For me, I have seen it giving resonably correct result as the dictum says. , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Nameisego ji,> > Ok, you are talking about a totally different dictum. I have also heard about "Karakao bhava naashya..", hence the confusion.> > Coming back to the dictum that you have quoted, it means that Jupiter destroys the house it occupies and Saturn blesses the house it occupies. Do you think it is applicable to all charts or is there a rider or something else to look for before applying the dictum? And, should we look at Rasi chart or Bhava chart to apply this dictum? I am asking this question because Jupiter changes house in my Bhava chart. Please clarify.> >

Regards,> Krishna>

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March 10, 2008

Dear Tatvam-Asi ji, As far as I know - No ancient classic provides a quote such as " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani:". Can you please let us know from which book you are quoting? Love and regards,Sreenadh , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> Dear Mr. Krishna> > Where did I say that Guru is the karaka of father?> > The dictum " Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva Bhava Vriddhhi karau shani:"> clearly means, that Guru tends to destroy the bhava in which he sits > and Sani increases the bhava where he sits.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear Nameisego ji,> > > > I still don't understand. Let me explain my point of view. 9th > house signifies many things like bhagya, dharma, guru and father. > Jupiter is the karaka for the first three and Sun is the karaka for > father. Sun is not sitting in the 9th. So I don't understand how this > can imply - Karako Bhava Naashya...> > > > Regards,> > Krishna> > > > nameisego nameisego@ wrote:> > Dear Krishnaji,> > > > The Simantham ceremony in the 7th month was celebrated as per vedic > > rites for this man's wife.She never delivered the child after that. > > In those days, no DNC or such operation to remove the foetus was > done.> > The woman carried the child all along.> > > > I added about untimely death of this jathaka's father because, this > > jathaka has Guru in 9th.> > I do follow the dictum, "Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva"> > > > TBOMK means to the best of my knowledge.> > > > One thing I would like add that his son was born in June 1971.> > And this jathaka died of Stomach cancer in 1983.(TBOMK)> > > > Be blessed> > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > > , Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Nameiego ji,> > > > > > It was astonishing to note that the foetus took 20 years to grow > > instead of nine months. I have never heard such an incident before. > > Thanks for sharing.> > > > > > On a side note, you commented that Guru killed the native's > > father. I don't understand the logic beind your statement. Agreed > > that Guru is the lord of 9th and occupies 9th. But, the death took > > place in Rahu-Venus period. Agreed that Guru could not save the > > father as Guru is a dusthana lord. Note that Venus occupies Sagi > > (ruled by Guru) and Rahu occupies Taurus (owned by Venus). Rahu is > > also in trines to Pitrukaraka Sun.> > > > > > Also, I did not understand what is TBOMK.> > > > > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > :> > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. > Try it now.> >>