Planetary Wars

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Hi

 

A planetary war is when the two planets are within 1 degree of each other.

 

This concept has many interpretations but foremost are the following :-

 

(1) The planet with the higher degree (longtitude) wins the war.

 

(2) The planet with the higher Northern Declination wins the war.

 

(3) Some Vedic group includes Rahu and Ketu; some don't.

 

Actually my interpretation is that both (1) and (2) are important with

the caveat that people living in the Northern Hemisphere should use

'Northern Declination' and people in the Souther Hemisphere should use

'Southern Declination' as the earth is shaped like a sphere, so

depending of which half of the side of the Equator your are born, you

are more likely to see the planet that is nearer towards the

appropriate pole (be it North or South). (Yes, the concept of any

celestial body more visible in the sky crops up again).

 

But (1) has greater weight than (2) because Relative Velocity (a

concept similar to visibility from the vantage point on the surface of

the Earth ie. us) depends on speed and direction as what we study in

Mathematics. Since the planet moves rather slowly along the

Declination but faster circling round the earth as seen by us, I would

accord more weight in (1). That is why most Vedic Astrologers use (1).

 

As to (3) whether to include Rahu and Ketu, if one chooses (2), then

the point is moot. Rahu and Ketu are always at the plane of the

equator. But if one were to choose (1), then they can be included.

But bear in mind that even if the other true planet wins the war

against Ketu or Rahu, the planet would still be swallowed up by them

as in Vedic interpretation. Hence the win is rather small indeed.

 

Regards

Hock Leong

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hi Hock Leong, What I have learned in Bhartiya Vidhya Bhawan is that plannet with lesser degree wins the planetary war. Is there any typo error in your message or I have learned it wrong!!! Regards, Vvekhockleongk <hockleongk wrote: HiA planetary war is when the two planets are within 1 degree of each other.This concept has many interpretations but foremost are the following

:-(1) The planet with the higher degree (longtitude) wins the war.(2) The planet with the higher Northern Declination wins the war.(3) Some Vedic group includes Rahu and Ketu; some don't.Actually my interpretation is that both (1) and (2) are important withthe caveat that people living in the Northern Hemisphere should use'Northern Declination' and people in the Souther Hemisphere should use'Southern Declination' as the earth is shaped like a sphere, sodepending of which half of the side of the Equator your are born, youare more likely to see the planet that is nearer towards theappropriate pole (be it North or South). (Yes, the concept of anycelestial body more visible in the sky crops up again).But (1) has greater weight than (2) because Relative Velocity (aconcept similar to visibility from the vantage point on the surface ofthe Earth ie. us) depends on speed and direction as what we study

inMathematics. Since the planet moves rather slowly along theDeclination but faster circling round the earth as seen by us, I wouldaccord more weight in (1). That is why most Vedic Astrologers use (1). As to (3) whether to include Rahu and Ketu, if one chooses (2), thenthe point is moot. Rahu and Ketu are always at the plane of theequator. But if one were to choose (1), then they can be included. But bear in mind that even if the other true planet wins the waragainst Ketu or Rahu, the planet would still be swallowed up by themas in Vedic interpretation. Hence the win is rather small indeed.RegardsHock Leong

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Yes. I agree with Vivek. The explanation is that the one behind is chasing the one with higher longitude. Also another interpretation could be that one with lesse longitude is able to see the other and not vice versa.Regards,

UdupaOn Fri, Mar 28, 2008 at 5:00 PM, Vvek <vivekiift2001 wrote:

 

 

 

 

hi Hock Leong, What I have learned in Bhartiya Vidhya Bhawan is that plannet with lesser degree wins the planetary war. Is there any typo error in your message or I have learned it wrong!!!

Regards, Vvekhockleongk <hockleongk wrote:

HiA planetary war is when the two planets are within 1 degree of each other.This concept has many interpretations but foremost are the following

:-(1) The planet with the higher degree (longtitude) wins the war.(2) The planet with the higher Northern Declination wins the war.(3) Some Vedic group includes Rahu and Ketu; some don't.

Actually my interpretation is that both (1) and (2) are important withthe caveat that people living in the Northern Hemisphere should use'Northern Declination' and people in the Souther Hemisphere should use

'Southern Declination' as the earth is shaped like a sphere, sodepending of which half of the side of the Equator your are born, youare more likely to see the planet that is nearer towards theappropriate pole (be it North or South). (Yes, the concept of any

celestial body more visible in the sky crops up again).But (1) has greater weight than (2) because Relative Velocity (aconcept similar to visibility from the vantage point on the surface ofthe Earth ie. us) depends on speed and direction as what we study

inMathematics. Since the planet moves rather slowly along theDeclination but faster circling round the earth as seen by us, I wouldaccord more weight in (1). That is why most Vedic Astrologers use (1).

As to (3) whether to include Rahu and Ketu, if one chooses (2), thenthe point is moot. Rahu and Ketu are always at the plane of theequator. But if one were to choose (1), then they can be included. But bear in mind that even if the other true planet wins the war

against Ketu or Rahu, the planet would still be swallowed up by themas in Vedic interpretation. Hence the win is rather small indeed.RegardsHock Leong Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.

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Dear Sir,

I am of the opinion the the lesser degree planet is the always winner, Sun and

Moon never enter into the planetary war and Mars is always winner in any

planetary war. Pl correct me if I am wrong.

With kind regards,

P R Swamy

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Dear Mr. Swamy, Parasara says: 'Should there be a war between two planets (Mars to Saturn),the difference between the Shadbala of the two should be added to the victor's shadbala and deducted from the shadbala of the vanquished.' Which planet out of the two will be considered as vanquished, we have to refer Surya Siddhant Chapter 7(seven), sloka's 18 t0 23. The gist of these slokas in brief is as under: When two planets out of the above mentioned five planets are within one degree of longitude , they are in interplanetary war. The planet having more southern declination is considered looser compared to the planet which has northern declination. If both has southern declination , the planet having lesser declination will win. If both have northern declination , the planet having higher declination will win. In spite of this rule the planet which is comparatively more

brightly visible in the sky will be victor.This is the reason that Venus almost always stand to win. The diameter of planets as visible from the Earth is as under; Planet Maximum Minimum Mars 27" 4" Saturn 21" 15" Mercury 12" 4" Jupiter 49" 20" Venus 74" 9" There is a direct relation of the motion of planet , its distance and visibility of diameter from the Earth. Regards, G.K.GOELsara wrote: Dear Sir, I am of the opinion the the lesser degree planet

is the always winner, Sun and Moon never enter into the planetary war and Mars is always winner in any planetary war. Pl correct me if I am wrong.With kind regards,P R Swamy!-

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Respected Goel Sahib,

A bundle of thanks for enlightening me, I was really ignorant about this aspect

of it. I will certainly try to look into this aspect before coming to

conclusion.

With great regards,

P R Swamy

 

 

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Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937

Monday, March 31, 2008 5:51 pm

Re: Planetary Wars

 

 

> Dear Mr. Swamy,

> Parasara says:

> 'Should there be a war between two planets (Mars to Saturn),the

> difference between the Shadbala of the two should be added to the

> victor's shadbala and deducted from the shadbala of the vanquished.'

> Which planet out of the two will be considered as vanquished, we

> have to refer

> Surya Siddhant Chapter 7(seven), sloka's 18 t0 23. The gist of

> these slokas in brief is as under:

> When two planets out of the above mentioned five planets are

> within one degree of longitude , they are in interplanetary war.

> The planet having more southern declination is considered looser

> compared to the planet which has northern declination.

> If both has southern declination , the planet having lesser

> declination will win.

> If both have northern declination , the planet having higher

> declination will win.

> In spite of this rule the planet which is comparatively more

> brightly visible in the sky will be victor.This is the reason that

> Venus almost always stand to win.

> The diameter of planets as visible from the Earth is as under;

> Planet Maximum Minimum

> Mars 27 " 4 "

> Saturn 21 " 15 "

> Mercury 12 " 4 "

> Jupiter 49 " 20 "

> Venus 74 " 9 "

> There is a direct relation of the motion of planet , its

> distance and visibility of diameter from the Earth.

> Regards,

> G.K.GOEL

>

> sara wrote:

> Dear Sir,

> I am of the opinion the the lesser degree planet is the always

> winner, Sun and Moon never enter into the planetary war and Mars

> is always winner in any planetary war. Pl correct me if I am wrong.

> With kind regards,

> P R Swamy

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