Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Friends, A female child was born as per following data. Female dOB: 26.2.2008 pob: Mehsana (Gujarat) tob :Midnight 12.45 am I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is interesting. Rgds Tatvam-Asi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear Nmae is ego ji The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> Friends,> > A female child was born as per following data.> > Female> dOB: 26.2.2008> pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is > interesting. > > Rgds> > Tatvam-Asi> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Mr.Nair, I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning. Sorry again. Tatvam-Asi , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > dear Nmae is ego ji > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , " nameisego " > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > Friends, > > > > A female child was born as per following data. > > > > Female > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat) > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am > > > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is > > interesting. > > > > Rgds > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Sunilji and other members: If you are looking for alpayu, see the following data (hope and pray it does not fit) Female DOB: 4/19/2002 (April 19) 7:20 AM Place: Philadelphia, USA. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Namaskar, Few days back when someone posted a chart for discusions, it was stated that this is group's policy not to encourage chart reading. In a thread posted by nameisego, a chart of recently born child has been put up for reading in disguise of finding interesting points. This was lapped by some other members. This is contravention of what was stated earlier goup memebers/owners/moderators, Now same is being overlooked. May be because, it involves a coterie of some members of the group, who have formed close group of discussing among themselves. In an otherwise well managed group, these flouting of rules by some while forcing others to follow rules is detrimental to the interest of the group. Many lost their merits due to this. I wish uniform convention following will help maintain group's reputation. Regards, Sanjeev , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > dear Nmae is ego ji > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > , " nameisego " > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > Friends, > > > > A female child was born as per following data. > > > > Female > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat) > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am > > > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is > > interesting. > > > > Rgds > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear name is ego ji I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest area .. Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . pls deny or correct the reading . I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> > Dear Mr.Nair,> > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning.> Sorry again.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , "nameisego"> > <nameisego@> wrote:> > >> > > Friends,> > >> > > A female child was born as per following data.> > >> > > Female> > > dOB: 26.2.2008> > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > >> > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is> > > interesting.> > >> > > Rgds> > >> > > Tatvam-Asi> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others,The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the native and his parents. Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position from other factors: I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious for the native: Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by Rahu, and afflictedRahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H.Other afflictions: Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in 6H )Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is lord of 22nd dreshkanMars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L and 12L venusAll malefics in Kendra and LL in 8HMoon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu.Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketuRahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4HFrom moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L mercury.From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. There seems to be a danger to mother and child. The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon is in 8H. Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother seems to have been separated from child at birth. Please give your feedback.regardsneelam On 01/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna dear name is ego ji I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest area .. Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . pls deny or correct the reading . I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " nameisego " <nameisego wrote: >> > Dear Mr.Nair,> > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning.> Sorry again.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , " nameisego " > > <nameisego@> wrote:> > >> > > Friends,> > >> > > A female child was born as per following data.> > >> > > Female> > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > >> > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is> > > interesting.> > > > > > Rgds> > >> > > Tatvam-Asi> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear All The 4th House relates to the House of Birth so it is there we must look. Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in the 2nd). Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or the basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the 5th and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its needs known if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets). Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful). Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences were to occur. The Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn opposing it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution is weakly and sickly. The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of a child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother must read between the lines so to speak. Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery power notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great). But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%) certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable. The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing the Rahu and Sun conjunction. Regards Hock Leong , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others, > > The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the native > and his parents. > Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position > from other factors: > > I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious > for the native: > > - Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L > (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. > - Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by > Rahu, and afflicted > - Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo > - Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H. > > Other afflictions: > > - Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in 6H > ) > - Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is lord > of 22nd dreshkan > - Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L and > 12L venus > - All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H > - Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu. > - Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu > - Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H > - From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L > mercury. > - From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. > - In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and > pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. > > There seems to be a danger to mother and child. > > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive > as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no > affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. > - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, > Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon > is in 8H. > - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes > loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also > in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother seems to have > been separated from child at birth. > > Please give your feedback. > > regards > > neelam > > > On 01/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear name is ego ji > > > > > > > > I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . > > > > > > > > THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha > > karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . > > > > > > > > And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . > > > > > > > > sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord > > > > > > > > 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest > > area > > > > > > > > . Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house > > lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is > > afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . > > > > > > > > or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be > > possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . > > > > > > > > pls deny or correct the reading . > > > > > > > > I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings > > and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > , " nameisego " > > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Nair, > > > > > > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > > > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning. > > > Sorry again. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > > > > > > > dear Nmae is ego ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nameisego " > > > > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A female child was born as per following data. > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > > > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat) > > > > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am > > > > > > > > > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is > > > > > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear neelam ji and hockleong ji . Thanks for trying the blind chart reading of the chart presented by Name is ego ji .Hope other learned memebrs will also try on it . let us not afraid we may go wrong .we are all learning and trying to establish the ancient principles .So every body pls take it in true sports man spirit . Also dont miss to try the chart put forwarded by neelam ji regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "hockleongk" <hockleongk wrote:>> Dear All> > The 4th House relates to the House of Birth so it is there we must look. > > Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry> much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. > It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in> the 2nd).> > Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or the> basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the> 5th and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its> needs known if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets).> > Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and> Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively> which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful> indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the> House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic> but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful).> Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the> child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius> in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the> necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences> were to occur.> > The Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn opposing> it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution is> weakly and sickly.> > The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of a> child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either> side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate> well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother> must read between the lines so to speak.> > Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery power> notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th> House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great).> > But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the> planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%)> certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to> the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution> of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable.> > The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through> Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The> Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing> the Rahu and Sun conjunction.> > Regards> Hock Leong> > , "neelam gupta"> neelamgupta07@ wrote:> >> > Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others,> > > > The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the> native> > and his parents.> > Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the> position> > from other factors:> > > > I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is> inauspicious> > for the native:> > > > - Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L> > (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No> benefic aspect.> > - Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by> > Rahu, and afflicted> > - Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo> > - Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H.> > > > Other afflictions:> > > > - Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is> in 6H> > )> > - Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is> lord> > of 22nd dreshkan> > - Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak> 7L and> > 12L venus> > - All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H> > - Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu.> > - Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu> > - Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H> > - From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L> > mercury.> > - From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars.> > - In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and> > pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house.> > > > There seems to be a danger to mother and child.> > > > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive> > as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there> is no> > affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna> is strong.> > - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4,> > Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H> and moon> > is in 8H.> > - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic> causes> > loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun> (separator) also> > in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother> seems to have> > been separated from child at birth.> > > > Please give your feedback.> > > > regards> > > > neelam> > > > > > On 01/03/2008, sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare rama krishna> > >> > > dear name is ego ji> > >> > >> > >> > > I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra> chart .> > >> > >> > >> > > THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha> > > karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system .> > >> > >> > >> > > And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running .> > >> > >> > >> > > sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord> > >> > >> > >> > > 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in> chest> > > area> > >> > >> > >> > > . Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th> house> > > lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru> karaka sun is> > > afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri .> > >> > >> > >> > > or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father> may be> > > possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering .> > >> > >> > >> > > pls deny or correct the reading .> > >> > >> > >> > > I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart> readings> > > and let us take it like a intellectual exercise .> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "nameisego"> > > <nameisego@> wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Mr.Nair,> > > >> > > > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to> > > > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning.> > > > Sorry again.> > > >> > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > , "sunil nair"> > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > >> > > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > >> > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "nameisego"> > > > > <nameisego@> wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Friends,> > > > > >> > > > > > A female child was born as per following data.> > > > > >> > > > > > Female> > > > > > dOB: 26.2.2008> > > > > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > > > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > > > > >> > > > > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this> chart is> > > > > > interesting.> > > > > >> > > > > > Rgds> > > > > >> > > > > > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Namaste Neelam ji, That is really fantastic! You have looked at so many things in the chart. You have left out nothing at all. I totally agree with your analysis. Both luminaries are in the nakshatra of Rahu and Rahu afflicts both of them in the chart as well! In addition, accomplice and retrograde Saturn aspects both the luminaries and occupies Leo along with Ketu. There is a parivartana between Sun and Saturn as well. As you have rightly pointed out, I beleive that it is a strong case of congenital problem. The areas to look for are the Rahu/Ketu axis as well as the 12th house occupied by Moon. A heart problem or deformed legs is most likely. Other problem could be related to bones in general. Regards, Krishnaneelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others,The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the native and his parents. Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position from other factors: I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious for the native: Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by Rahu, and afflicted Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H. Other afflictions: Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in 6H ) Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is lord of 22nd dreshkan Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L and 12L venus All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu. Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L mercury. From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. There seems to be a danger to mother and child. The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon is in 8H. Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother seems to have been separated from child at birth. Please give your feedback. regards neelam On 01/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Hare rama krishna dear name is ego ji I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest area . Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . pls deny or correct the reading . I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> > Dear Mr.Nair,> > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning.> Sorry again.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , "nameisego"> > <nameisego@> wrote:> > >> > > Friends,> > >> > > A female child was born as per following data.> > >> > > Female> > > dOB: 26.2.2008> > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > >> > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is> > > interesting.> > >> > > Rgds> > >> > > Tatvam-Asi> > >> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear Hockleong,I was going through your observations and analysis, and I could not figure out a few things. Whether we get to the correct analysis or not, our statements should not be ambiguous...If you don't mind, please explain the following points. I have given my points in blue and marked what is not clear in red. Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in the 2nd). .....Overall does not cry much, but active and alert…is it a summary statement and...finally is everything ok? I feel if jupiter is strong in own second house, ruling the vocal chords, the first use of this will be for crying... Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or the basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the 5th and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its needs known if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets). ....The connection between the impurity of blood and making his needs known…when required...is not clear. ....Why have you taken blood only, it could be heart trouble or more likely chronic problem in the chest area? Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively (how) which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful).Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences were to occur. ….whether the child will finally be nourished or not is not clearThe Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn opposing it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution is weakly and sickly. …Could be a pointer for congenital heart problem also?The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of a child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother must read between the lines so to speak. ....How will she make her needs known as said in pt. 2. Even if the child doesn't cry much, he can be fed constantly and kept in good condition…what is the result of this statement, is not clear…Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery power notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great). …does it mean that the child is likely to be fine…But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%) certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable. The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing the Rahu and Sun conjunction. ....Result of 7/8/9 is not clear…what happens to the child?...finallyI hope you'll clarify a bit more...we are basically trying to see what is happening and why?. RegardsNeelam On 01/03/2008, hockleongk <hockleongk wrote: Dear All The 4th House relates to the House of Birth so it is there we must look. Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in the 2nd). Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or the basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the 5th and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its needs known if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets). Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful). Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences were to occur. The Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn opposing it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution is weakly and sickly. The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of a child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother must read between the lines so to speak. Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery power notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great). But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%) certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable. The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing the Rahu and Sun conjunction. Regards Hock Leong , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others, > > The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the native > and his parents. > Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position > from other factors: > > I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious > for the native: > > - Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L > (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. > - Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by > Rahu, and afflicted > - Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo > - Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H. > > Other afflictions: > > - Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in 6H > ) > - Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is lord > of 22nd dreshkan > - Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L and > 12L venus > - All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H > - Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu. > - Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu > - Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H > - From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L > mercury. > - From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. > - In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and > pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. > > There seems to be a danger to mother and child. > > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive > as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no > affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. > - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, > Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon > is in 8H. > - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes > loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also > in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother seems to have > been separated from child at birth. > > Please give your feedback. > > regards > > neelam > > > On 01/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > dear name is ego ji > > > > > > > > I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . > > > > > > > > THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha > > karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . > > > > > > > > And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . > > > > > > > > sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord > > > > > > > > 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest > > area > > > > > > > > . Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house > > lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is > > afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . > > > > > > > > or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be > > possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . > > > > > > > > pls deny or correct the reading . > > > > > > > > I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings > > and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > , " nameisego " > > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr.Nair, > > > > > > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > > > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning. > > > Sorry again. > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > > > > > > > dear Nmae is ego ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > , " nameisego " > > > > <nameisego@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Friends, > > > > > > > > > > A female child was born as per following data. > > > > > > > > > > Female > > > > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > > > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat) > > > > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am > > > > > > > > > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is > > > > > interesting. > > > > > > > > > > Rgds > > > > > > > > > > Tatvam-Asi > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear members: Instead of being repetitious, I would contain myself to what others have not mentioned. There are many negative as well as positive aspects to this chart. Basically, I do not consider longevity at all and am assuming that the child is alive. Infant mortality is a thing of the past here in US and it will be in future in India. A child born today can be expected to live 100 plus years; so even the term “alpa ayus” becomes relative. Mars, the lagna lord in the eighth house in a bitter enemy’s house does not auger well but then again aspected by Jupiter removes the dosha to certain extent. They are also yogakarakas. 5L and LL in mutual aspect. Four out of seven planets are in pushkara navamsa ( Jup, Ven, Me, and Moon). With the exception of Ke and Sun, all the planets are placed in benefic houses in the Nav which by itself good. Venus, the kalathrakaraka is in the friend’s house joined with another friend Me. In Nav, they are in the tenth house, the 10L with 11L in the 10th house. In the six vargas, (D1,2,3,7,9,10) Ve and Me are together in a friendly/ own house. Her education and matrimonial life looks very promising. Moksha trikona and Karma trikona Lords are in parivartana and the ninth Lord in the twelfth house are the negative aspects. Then again, a partial Vepreetha Raja yoga is there. Sixth Lord in the eigth house and the sixth Lord aspecting 8th and 12th Lords. Eventually, she should overcome her obstacles to a certain extent. Yes, the fourth house is afflicted. However, fourth house co-Lord Ra is in its own house and it also aspected by its Lord Sa. Even though it is afflicted, it is well fortified. But the co depositor of Rahu, Sa is in a bitter enemy’s house, so one can expect some tough time till feb 2011 for the baby. It can be related to health since sixth Lord is in the 8th house. Best wishes anantha krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear anantha Krishnan ji Pls explain abt pushkar navamsa and its usage >Tho i know ,i need ur obeservations . Do u consider pushkar navamsa for rasis also .( this is one area i wanted to do a reserch ,if some one knows already then i can save my time ) . Hope u can do it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear members:> Instead of being repetitious, I would contain myself to what others have not mentioned.> There are many negative as well as positive aspects to this chart.> Basically, I do not consider longevity at all and am assuming that the child is alive. Infant mortality is a thing of the past here in US and it will be in future in India. A child born today can be expected to live 100 plus years; so even the term "alpa ayus" becomes relative.> Mars, the lagna lord in the eighth house in a bitter enemy's house does not auger well but then again aspected by Jupiter removes the dosha to certain extent. They are also yogakarakas. 5L and LL in mutual aspect. > Four out of seven planets are in pushkara navamsa ( Jup, Ven, Me, and Moon). With the exception of Ke and Sun, all the planets are placed in benefic houses in the Nav which by itself good. > Venus, the kalathrakaraka is in the friend's house joined with another friend Me. In Nav, they are in the tenth house, the 10L with 11L in the 10th house. In the six vargas, (D1,2,3,7,9,10) Ve and Me are together in a friendly/ own house. Her education and matrimonial life looks very promising.> Moksha trikona and Karma trikona Lords are in parivartana and the ninth Lord in the twelfth house are the negative aspects. Then again, a partial Vepreetha Raja yoga is there. Sixth Lord in the eigth house and the sixth Lord aspecting 8th and 12th Lords. Eventually, she should overcome her obstacles to a certain extent.> > Yes, the fourth house is afflicted. However, fourth house co-Lord Ra is in its own house and it also aspected by its Lord Sa. Even though it is afflicted, it is well fortified.> > But the co depositor of Rahu, Sa is in a bitter enemy's house, so one can expect some tough time till feb 2011 for the baby. It can be related to health since sixth Lord is in the 8th house. > > Best wishes> anantha krishnan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear Krishna ji,You're right. Looks like a heart-related problem. If sun is afflicted in aquarius and rahu is involved, it gives rise to heart-related problems. Since saturn is connected and ketu is supporting, it could be muscle atrophy in heart or chest area. I think further analysis may be possible once we get a feed back from nameisego ji. best regardsneelamOn 01/03/2008, Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Namaste Neelam ji, That is really fantastic! You have looked at so many things in the chart. You have left out nothing at all. I totally agree with your analysis. Both luminaries are in the nakshatra of Rahu and Rahu afflicts both of them in the chart as well! In addition, accomplice and retrograde Saturn aspects both the luminaries and occupies Leo along with Ketu. There is a parivartana between Sun and Saturn as well. As you have rightly pointed out, I beleive that it is a strong case of congenital problem. The areas to look for are the Rahu/Ketu axis as well as the 12th house occupied by Moon. A heart problem or deformed legs is most likely. Other problem could be related to bones in general. Regards, Krishnaneelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others,The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the native and his parents. Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position from other factors: I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious for the native: Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by Rahu, and afflicted Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H. Other afflictions: Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in 6H ) Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is lord of 22nd dreshkan Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L and 12L venus All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu. Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L mercury. From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. There seems to be a danger to mother and child. The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon is in 8H. Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The mother seems to have been separated from child at birth. Please give your feedback. regards neelam On 01/03/2008, sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna dear name is ego ji I am getting scorpio lagna with moon in libra ,swathi nakshatra chart . THis girl born in krishna paksha nite .so weakness to deha karaka moon may promote weakness in body and system . And rahu dasa -moon antara -sat pratyanta running . sat is in mritu bhaga and 3rd and 4th lord 4th house is afflicted .so i assume may be some health problems in chest area . Also there is a parivarthana between 4thhouse Lord sani and 10th house lord sun and rahu /ketu axis is inflicting this areas ,pitru karaka sun is afflicted .Also prahtyantara Lord sani is vakri . or this sat is also marka for parents ,so some problems to father may be possible .Longitivity factor i am not considering . pls deny or correct the reading . I also request other memebrs in grp to try on this blind chart readings and let us take it like a intellectual exercise . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , " nameisego " <nameisego wrote: >> > Dear Mr.Nair,> > I am sorry. I should have made it clear. The birth according to > Indian system is 26th night. But as per western, it is 27th Morning.> Sorry again.> > Tatvam-Asi> > > > > , " sunil nair " > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , " nameisego " > > <nameisego@> wrote:> > >> > > Friends,> > >> > > A female child was born as per following data.> > >> > > Female> > > dOB: 26.2.2008 > > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > >> > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is> > > interesting.> > >> > > Rgds> > >> > > Tatvam-Asi> > >> >> Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Dear Sunil Ji:As per my understanding, if a planet is in Pushkara navamsa in the rasi chart it is assured a benefic house in the navamsa; it could also be vargothamma.(planets in Ta-5rd nav , Cn-1 nav and Sg-9th nav will be both vargothamma and a benefic house in the navamsa)The planets can be any one of the following Navamsas in the rasi chart to be classified as being in Puskara nav.:Aries- 7 & 9 nav; Ta-3 & 5 nav; Ge-6 & 8 Nav; Cn-1 & 3 and the cycle repeats itself every four rasis. Even the lagna can be added to the consideration. Very rarely you will see more than six out of ten in Pushkara nav. Anything more than 3 is good and anything more than five can be very good." Navamsa and Nadi Astrology" by Chandulal S. Patel describes this in detail.Hope this helps,Best wishes,anantha krishnansunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare rama krishna dear anantha Krishnan ji Pls explain abt pushkar navamsa and its usage >Tho i know ,i need ur obeservations . Do u consider pushkar navamsa for rasis also .( this is one area i wanted to do a reserch ,if some one knows already then i can save my time ) . Hope u can do it regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear members:> Instead of being repetitious, I would contain myself to what others have not mentioned.> There are many negative as well as positive aspects to this chart.> Basically, I do not consider longevity at all and am assuming that the child is alive. Infant mortality is a thing of the past here in US and it will be in future in India. A child born today can be expected to live 100 plus years; so even the term "alpa ayus" becomes relative.> Mars, the lagna lord in the eighth house in a bitter enemy's house does not auger well but then again aspected by Jupiter removes the dosha to certain extent. They are also yogakarakas. 5L and LL in mutual aspect. > Four out of seven planets are in pushkara navamsa ( Jup, Ven, Me, and Moon). With the exception of Ke and Sun, all the planets are placed in benefic houses in the Nav which by itself good. > Venus, the kalathrakaraka is in the friend's house joined with another friend Me. In Nav, they are in the tenth house, the 10L with 11L in the 10th house. In the six vargas, (D1,2,3,7,9,10) Ve and Me are together in a friendly/ own house. Her education and matrimonial life looks very promising.> Moksha trikona and Karma trikona Lords are in parivartana and the ninth Lord in the twelfth house are the negative aspects. Then again, a partial Vepreetha Raja yoga is there. Sixth Lord in the eigth house and the sixth Lord aspecting 8th and 12th Lords. Eventually, she should overcome her obstacles to a certain extent.> > Yes, the fourth house is afflicted. However, fourth house co-Lord Ra is in its own house and it also aspected by its Lord Sa. Even though it is afflicted, it is well fortified.> > But the co depositor of Rahu, Sa is in a bitter enemy's house, so one can expect some tough time till feb 2011 for the baby. It can be related to health since sixth Lord is in the 8th house. > > Best wishes> anantha krishnan> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hi Neelam I do not have (or not aware of ) how to mark this blog in different colours so I have given my reply in CAPS below. If the effect of the answer seems loud, I apologise. Thanks. Hock Leong , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Hockleong, > I was going through your observations and analysis, and I could not figure > out a few things. Whether we get to the correct analysis or not, our > statements should not be ambiguous...If you don't mind, please explain the > following points. I have given my points in blue and marked what is not > clear in red. > > > 1. Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry > much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. > It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in > the 2nd). > ....Overall does not cry much, but active and alert…is it a summary > statement and...finally is everything ok? I feel if jupiter is strong in > own second house, ruling the vocal chords, the first use of this will be for > crying... JUPITER IS STANDING ON ITS OWN AND ONLY ASPECTING SATURN AND FOR MARS ONLY WIDELY. IT IS ALSO NOT RULING ANY OTHER PLANETS. ITS EFFECTS IS MINIMAL UNLIKE SATURN AND RAHU. > 2. Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or > the basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the 5th > and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its needs known > if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets). > ...The connection between the impurity of blood and making his needs > known…when required...is not clear. > ....Why have you taken blood only, it could be heart trouble or more > likely chronic problem in the chest area? YES IT CAN BE ANYTHING TIED UP WITH THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM (AS THE SUN RULES THAT), NOT ONLY BLOOD. AQUARIUS ALSO RULES THE CIRCULATORY SYSTEM (THE SIGN OPPOSITE THE SIGN THE PLANET IS RULING WOULD SOMEHOW INHERIT THE SAME AILMENTS). SO IT CAN ALSO INCLUDE THE HEART. IN ADDITION, THE LEO-AQUARIUS AXIS HAS SOME RELATIONSHIP WITH THE BACK. RAHU AND KETU IN ASSOCIATION OF ANY PLANETS ALWAYS MAKE THAT PLANET LESS PURE. RAHU AND THE SUN ARE ENEMIES (JUST LIKE SATURN AND THE SUN). THESE TWO PLANETS ALWAYS LESSEN THE PURITY OF WHAT THE SUN STANDS FOR WHICH UNLIKE MARS AND JUPITER WHICH WOULD ACCENTUATE THE SUN'S PURITY (WHAT IT STANDS FOR BE IT CHARACTER OR OTHERWISE). BUT HERE WE ARE TALKING ABOUT CONSTITUTION. ON ANOTHER POINT, UNDER TROPICAL ASTROLOGY THE SUN IS ACTUALLY IN PISCES (AS I SAID LILLY ASTROLOGY HAS A LIST DEALING WITH DISEASES OF VARIOUS PLANETS PLACED IN TROPICAL SIGN). SO THE CHILD UNDER PISCES DEALS WITH DROPSY. DELINEATIONS SOMETIMES CAN BE COMBINED NOTWITHSTANDING WHAT I HAVE PROMISED SREENAM TO STICK TO ONE SYSTEM OF INTERPRETATION. > 3. Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and > Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively > (how) which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful > indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the > House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic > but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful). > 4. Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the > child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius > in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the > necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences > were to occur. > ….whether the child will finally be nourished or not is not clear YES, I CHANGE MY MIND. THE CHILD WILL EVENTUALLY NOT BE NOURISHED BECAUSE OF SATURN'S POWERFUL EFFECTS. > 5. The Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn > opposing it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution > is > weakly and sickly. > …Could be a pointer for congenital heart problem also? YES IT COULD BE (SEE MY ANSWER ABOVE). > 6. The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of > a child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either > side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate > well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother > must read between the lines so to speak. > ...How will she make her needs known as said in pt. 2. Even if the > child doesn't cry much, he can be fed constantly and kept in good > condition…what is the result of this statement, is not clear… HE CAN BE FED CONSTANTLY BUT BECAUSE OF HIS MALAISE (LIKE HIS ABOVE AVERAGE NEED FOR NOURISHMENT INDICATED BY THE PLANET SATURN - THIS PLANET ALWAYS SIGNIFIES STARVING - THEN FEEDING THE BABY CONSTANTLY MAY NOT RESULT IN THE BABY BEING FED ADEQUATELY. > 7. Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery > power notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th > House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great). > …does it mean that the child is likely to be fine… MARS HAS GREAT AFFINITY WITH THE 6TH HOUSE. IT IS UNFORTUNATE THAT IT IS PLACED ON THE 8TH HOUSE (A TRIKA HOUSE). THE FIGHT-OFF-DISEASE PROTECTION OF MARS HERE IS NOT STRONG. THE CHILD WOULD NOT BE FINE. > 8. But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the > planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%) > certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to > the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution > of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable. > 9. The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through > Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The > Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing > the Rahu and Sun conjunction. > ...Result of 7/8/9 is not clear…what happens to the child?...finally I NEVER PREDICT DEATH IN A CHART. THE CHILD WOULD BE SHORT-LIVED BASED ON MY ANALYSIS ESPECIALLY HER STARTING DASA SEQUANCE IS RA-SA-MO AND THE FOCAL POINT HERE IS ALL THREE PLANETS CAUSING MISERY TO THE SUN. > > I hope you'll clarify a bit more...we are basically trying to see what is > happening and why?. > Regards > Neelam > > > > On 01/03/2008, hockleongk <hockleongk wrote: > > > > Dear All > > > > The 4th House relates to the House of Birth so it is there we must look. > > > > Overall the chart points downwards showing the child does not cry > > much. But with many planets in the 3rd, the child is rather active. > > It is also alert and intelligent (Jupiter ruling 2nd and 5th placed in > > the 2nd). > > > > Rahu conjuncting the 4th House shows some impurity in the blood or the > > basic constitution of the child. But Rahu is ruling the 1st and the > > 5th and Leo is on the Midheaven, this means this child can make its > > needs known if required (both Rahu and Sun are extrovert planets). > > > > Saturn rules the 3rd and 4th House where 4 planets are situated (and > > Moon and Mars are in addition ruled by Venus and Mercury respectively > > which in turn is ruled by Saturn) making very Saturn very powerful > > indeed (it is right on top of the 10th House Angle - the middle of the > > House is generally more powerful than the edge of the House in Vedic > > but the angles like I mentioned is observable, is even more powerful). > > Saturn deals with a lack of nourishment and somehow or other, the > > child can never have enough of that (even with Jupiter in Saggittarius > > in the 2nd House of food). The mother would constantly provide the > > necessary nourishment for the child if nothing untoward consequences > > were to occur. > > > > The Sun rules the circulatory system. With a powerful Saturn opposing > > it and Rahu eating it up, we can conclude the child's constitution is > > weakly and sickly. > > > > The Moon governing the sympathetic and automatic motor response of a > > child is also weak being in the 12th House and no planets on either > > side. This shows that the child's reflexive action cannot co-ordinate > > well with her desires for eg. to cry when she need food. The mother > > must read between the lines so to speak. > > > > Mars ruling the 6th House is good and give fighting and recovery power > > notwithstanding it is on the 8th House (it is at the side of the 8th > > House so the effects of the 8th House on Mars is not great). > > > > But Rahu aspecting the Moon and Mars (trinal aspects), plus all the > > planets in the third house (the 12th House Aspect for Rahu is 100%) > > certainly also makes it very powerful. So the Sun is really pushed to > > the limit with Rahu and Saturn close to its heels. The constitution > > of the child is thus not guaranteed to be stable. > > > > The Moon in the 12th House also adds to the complexing through > > Saturn's forward sextile aspect (besides Rahu trinal spect). The > > Moon's motor function adds to the uptightness of the Saturn opposing > > the Rahu and Sun conjunction. > > > > Regards > > Hock Leong Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 1, 2008 Report Share Posted March 1, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear anantha krishna ji , I know abt pushkar navamsa .but my question is abt ur experience abt planet in pushkar navamsa . Did u practicaly see it in lite of pushkar navamsa -only good results happening ? I am aware that sri C S patel ji wrote abt it . Now i hope u may understand what i mean ?if u hav expereince on this pls write abt it . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , Anantha Krishnan <anantha_krishnan_98 wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji:> As per my understanding, if a planet is in Pushkara navamsa in the rasi chart it is assured a benefic house in the navamsa; it could also be vargothamma.(planets in Ta-5rd nav , Cn-1 nav and Sg-9th nav will be both vargothamma and a benefic house in the navamsa)> The planets can be any one of the following Navamsas in the rasi chart to be classified as being in Puskara nav.:> Aries- 7 & 9 nav; Ta-3 & 5 nav; Ge-6 & 8 Nav; Cn-1 & 3 and the cycle repeats itself every four rasis. Even the lagna can be added to the consideration. Very rarely you will see more than six out of ten in Pushkara nav. Anything more than 3 is good and anything more than five can be very good.> " Navamsa and Nadi Astrology" by Chandulal S. Patel describes this in detail.> Hope this helps,> Best wishes,> anantha krishnan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 3, 2008 Report Share Posted March 3, 2008 Dear Sanjeev ji, I agree with your observation - and is in favor of following the group policies.Love and regards,Sreenadh , "pashu_sanju" <pashu_sanju wrote:>> Namaskar,> Few days back when someone posted a chart for discusions, it was > stated that this is group's policy not to encourage chart reading. In > a thread posted by nameisego, a chart of recently born child has been > put up for reading in disguise of finding interesting points. This > was lapped by some other members. This is contravention of what was > stated earlier goup memebers/owners/moderators, Now same is being > overlooked. May be because, it involves a coterie of some members of > the group, who have formed close group of discussing among themselves.> In an otherwise well managed group, these flouting of rules by some > while forcing others to follow rules is detrimental to the interest > of the group.> > Many lost their merits due to this. I wish uniform > convention following will help maintain group's reputation.> > Regards,> Sanjeev> > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear Nmae is ego ji> > > > > > > > The day of birth is it 27th morning ?pls clarify> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> > > > > > , "nameisego"> > <nameisego@> wrote:> > >> > > Friends,> > >> > > A female child was born as per following data.> > >> > > Female> > > dOB: 26.2.2008> > > pob: Mehsana (Gujarat)> > > tob :Midnight 12.45 am> > >> > > I invite learned friends to find and post as to why this chart is> > > interesting.> > >> > > Rgds> > >> > > Tatvam-Asi> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, Pls go through this message. I has replied to nameisego ji with my reading on that chart. This is from scorpio lagna and libra moon. Of course the strange incident is beyond imagination, hence beyond prediction, but this was my conclusion of that reading: There seems to be a danger to mother and child. - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon is in 8H. - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also in the 4H. The mother seems to have been separated from child at birth. Regards neelam On 01/03/2008, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others, > > The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the > native and his parents. > Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position > from other factors: > > I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious > for the native: > > - Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L > (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect. > - Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by > Rahu, and afflicted > - Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo > - Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H. > > Other afflictions: > > - Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in > 6H ) > - Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is > lord of 22nd dreshkan > - Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L > and 12L venus > - All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H > - Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu. > - Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu > - Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H > - From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L > mercury. > - From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars. > > - In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and > pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house. > > > There seems to be a danger to mother and child. > > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive > as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no > affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong. > - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4, > Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon > is in 8H. > - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic > causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun > (separator) also in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The > mother seems to have been separated from child at birth. > > Please give your feedback. > > regards > > neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear neelam ji yes i do read ur predictions and congrats for predicting more sharply .But i was thinking options as the incident was unusual and even got national media attention and then the child is survived . I am sure the child is alive on tara bala of the question was appeared in grp . But my problem was u know moon is Amk and sat is GK so the libra was aspected by all this planets . were as rahu was giving amsa to lagna ,moon was in rahus nakshatra and sat the pd lord is in mrityu bhaga aspected by jupiter .Again showing a devine intervention . so some bad incident is possible ,but how far we can explain ( as astrologers we shud b able --is it not ??) so was the question and further doubts . And as astrologer still this doubts will haunt me till i may be able to find a solution regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> Pls go through this message. I has replied to nameisego ji with my reading> on that chart. This is from scorpio lagna and libra moon. Of course the> strange incident is beyond imagination, hence beyond prediction, but this> was my conclusion of that reading:> > There seems to be a danger to mother and child.> > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive> as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no> affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong.> - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4,> Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon> is in 8H.> - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic causes> loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun (separator) also> in the 4H. The mother seems to have been separated from child at birth.> > Regards> neelam> > > On 01/03/2008, neelam gupta neelamgupta07 wrote:> >> > Dear nameisego ji, sunil ji, and others,> >> > The chart shows multiple afflictions which do not augur well for the> > native and his parents.> > Not having gone into longevity calculations, I am only seeing the position> > from other factors:> >> > I'll start with dasha sequence of Ra-Mo-Sa which obviously is inauspicious> > for the native:> >> > - Rahu is aspecting AD nath moon (mother) in 12H who is also 9L> > (bhagya). The moon is weak, KP night and in kemdrum yog. No benefic aspect.> > - Saturn 3L/4L, the pratyantarnath is retrograde and is aspected by> > Rahu, and afflicted> > - Rahu also afflicts LL mars in 8H and both the luminaries and leo> > - Saturn afflicts moon, sun, leo, 7H and 12H.> >> > Other afflictions:> >> > - Mars as LL and 6L in 8H. (for scorpio lagna, the MT of mars is in> > 6H )> > - Mars is also in 64th navamsh lord and aspects 8L mercury who is> > lord of 22nd dreshkan> > - Mars from 8H aspects 8L mercury in Gemini, virgo rashi, marak 7L> > and 12L venus> > - All malefics in Kendra and LL in 8H> > - Moon in swati (rahu's nakshatra) aspected by Rahu.> > - Saturn in ketu's nakshatra, magha, posited with ketu> > - Rahu himself in mars's nakshatra in 4H> > - From moon also, Rashish is also 8L venus is in 4H, with 9L/12L> > mercury.> > - From 4H, 8L mercury is in 12H with 4L venus all afflicted by mars.> >> > - In the navamsh, the position becomes clearer, moon is in 8H and> > pratyantarnath Saturn in 12H of navamsh and affliction to 4th house.> >> >> > There seems to be a danger to mother and child.> >> > - The child might be born with a congenital sickness but will survive> > as there is aspect of 5L Jupiter in sagitarius from 2H and there is no> > affliction to lagna. Lagna is also in shubhkatri. Navamsh lagna is strong.> > - But, the 4H is severely afflicted, even in all vargas. In D-4,> > Scorpio only rises and saturn is in lagna aspected by sun from 7H and moon> > is in 8H.> > - Although Saturn as 4L is strong and aspects 4H, but a malefic> > causes loss of jeev even in own house. Then there is rahu and sun> > (separator) also in the 4H. And finally the dasha sequence seems to The> > mother seems to have been separated from child at birth.> >> > Please give your feedback.> >> > regards> >> > neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Dear Sunil ji, You're absolutely right. And we mostly end up doing posthumous studies...any how that's learning also. Having seen the danger to life, the following considerations could've been taken into account for a better reading: - 3H is the house from where we see mode of death. In a death-like situation I think the clue could come from this house. - 22nd Dreshkan from the ascendant is also seen for mode of death. Here Mercury is the 22nd dreshkan lord, posited in 3H only. Thus 3H assumes much significance in relation to the mode of death…or coming out of death… in this case. - 3H is also important also as it is aspected by LL mars from 8H, it is 12th from MD nath rahu, the planets in 3H mercury and venus are closely comjunct, both in the nakshatra of moon, the AD lord. That the house belongs to PD lord Saturn, makes the picture of the team complete. - So we have dasha lords Rahu-mo-sat calling shots where LL mars is in dumps in 8H looking up to benefics venus and mercury for support from 3H (8 th from 8th). The malefics therein might have put the nail in the coffin, but the benefics in friends house, did support the native, but how? - 3H with mer and venus would mean transport, journey, communications, relatives, media, courage, physical strength, loss of mother, etc. It is also Capricorn, so would mean surface transport or trains in particular. (I think during Sanjay Gandhi's death due to plane crash, in his varshphal there were several planets influencing an airy sign in 3H) - In dreshkan, scorpio rising and venus-mercury in 7H in Taurus, indicate success of efforts. Mars, the LL is in 8H in dreshkan also. One should look at all the players in the team affecting an event...all of them have to play their roles. What is happening in which house when we freeze a moment is important...that's the lesson I guess. regards neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 4, 2008 Report Share Posted March 4, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear neelam ji Thanks for the mail .I need to study the mode of death and possible escape more . what u foresee in this chart .Is the kid is completly out of danger ,esp next Pd from may onwards it wil be merc . Also i need to pull out the books deals with the situations at the time of delivery .Off cource this chart interest me .It discribes birth in many odd place s even nauka ,forest like this ,unattended birth ,the oil in lamp and number of lamps ( these days we hav to equate to electrical -how i dont know ),the number of mid wifes attending delivery . even face of door of delivery room ,the surroundings .fahter or relatives present at the time of birth etc many many things .These days mostly are hospital births and no need to split our hair . Also death was one area i purpose fully avoids which i got interest recently . any way it was a nice experience to do this blind chart also ,also it arised many questions regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sunil ji,> > You're absolutely right. And we mostly end up doing posthumous studies...any> how that's learning also.> Having seen the danger to life, the following considerations could've been> taken into account for a better reading:> > - 3H is the house from where we see mode of death. In a death-like> situation I think the clue could come from this house.> - 22nd Dreshkan from the ascendant is also seen for mode of death.> Here Mercury is the 22nd dreshkan lord, posited in 3H only. Thus 3H> assumes much significance in relation to the mode of death…or coming out of> death… in this case.> - 3H is also important also as it is aspected by LL mars from 8H, it> is 12th from MD nath rahu, the planets in 3H mercury and venus are> closely comjunct, both in the nakshatra of moon, the AD lord. That the house> belongs to PD lord Saturn, makes the picture of the team complete.> - So we have dasha lords Rahu-mo-sat calling shots where LL mars is in> dumps in 8H looking up to benefics venus and mercury for support from 3H (8> th from 8th). The malefics therein might have put the nail in the> coffin, but the benefics in friends house, did support the native, but how?> - 3H with mer and venus would mean transport, journey, communications,> relatives, media, courage, physical strength, loss of mother, etc. It is> also Capricorn, so would mean surface transport or trains in particular. (I> think during Sanjay Gandhi's death due to plane crash, in his varshphal> there were several planets influencing an airy sign in 3H)> - In dreshkan, scorpio rising and venus-mercury in 7H in Taurus,> indicate success of efforts. Mars, the LL is in 8H in dreshkan also.> > > One should look at all the players in the team affecting an event...all of> them have to play their roles. What is happening in which house when we> freeze a moment is important...that's the lesson I guess.> > regards> > neelam> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 5, 2008 Report Share Posted March 5, 2008 Dear Madam, I knew you were talking about that kid from the first mail itself. Good example. The mothers 5th house could be Simha as Saturn and Ketu are present and they signify loss. The kid's health therefore could be in danger even as we discuss because there is a collection of planets in Simha and Kumbha happening now. However it is also an auspiscious day as we worship "neelkanth" on Mahashivratri tomorrow. Thanks & Regards. Chiranjiv Mehta.--- On Wed, 5/3/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote: neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: A child birth.....Blind Chart Date: Wednesday, 5 March, 2008, 12:08 AMDear Sunil ji, You're absolutely right. And we mostly end up doing posthumous studies...any how that's learning also. Having seen the danger to life, the following considerations could've been taken into account for a better reading: - 3H is the house from where we see mode of death. In a death-like situation I think the clue could come from this house. - 22nd Dreshkan from the ascendant is also seen for mode of death. Here Mercury is the 22nd dreshkan lord, posited in 3H only. Thus 3H assumes much significance in relation to the mode of death…or coming out of death… in this case. - 3H is also important also as it is aspected by LL mars from 8H, it is 12th from MD nath rahu, the planets in 3H mercury and venus are closely comjunct, both in the nakshatra of moon, the AD lord. That the house belongs to PD lord Saturn, makes the picture of the team complete. - So we have dasha lords Rahu-mo-sat calling shots where LL mars is in dumps in 8H looking up to benefics venus and mercury for support from 3H (8 th from 8th). The malefics therein might have put the nail in the coffin, but the benefics in friends house, did support the native, but how? - 3H with mer and venus would mean transport, journey, communications, relatives, media, courage, physical strength, loss of mother, etc. It is also Capricorn, so would mean surface transport or trains in particular. (I think during Sanjay Gandhi's death due to plane crash, in his varshphal there were several planets influencing an airy sign in 3H) - In dreshkan, scorpio rising and venus-mercury in 7H in Taurus, indicate success of efforts. Mars, the LL is in 8H in dreshkan also. One should look at all the players in the team affecting an event...all of them have to play their roles. What is happening in which house when we freeze a moment is important...that's the lesson I guess. regards neelam Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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