Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Namaskar, It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on this based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one such person. Birth data is given below: DoB:29/7/1996 ToB: 3:35 AM Place: Gwalior Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in D-10, involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this person with reference to above querry. Regards, Sanjeev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear sanju ji Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch and experience .Also u posted a small boys chart . I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify the areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard planets we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon and jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in good position also ) Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we take as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga ) regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "pashu_sanju" <pashu_sanju wrote:>> Namaskar,> It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on this > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one such > person. Birth data is given below:> DoB:29/7/1996> ToB: 3:35 AM> Place: Gwalior> > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in D-10, > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this person > with reference to above querry.> Regards,> Sanjeev> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Dear Sunil Ji, Namaskar, Chart of the person is gemini lagna and Re-Ju is in 7th house with moon. Ju is in Mool trikona sthan. Does it qualify as Panch Mahapurusha Yoga?(classical definition says exalted Ju in kendra is one of pancha Mahapurusha yoga)while in this case it is in mool trikona sthan. Beside Ju is retro. Some does take mool trikona also in Panch MP yoga. Reagrds, sanjeev , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > dear sanju ji > > > > Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch and > experience .Also u posted a small boys chart . > > > > I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify the > areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may > reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard planets > > > > we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon and > jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without > vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and > moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in good > position also ) > > > > Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga > > > > JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we take > as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga ) > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > , " pashu_sanju " > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > Namaskar, > > It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of > > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny > > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on this > > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one such > > person. Birth data is given below: > > DoB:29/7/1996 > > ToB: 3:35 AM > > Place: Gwalior > > > > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in > D-10, > > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this person > > with reference to above querry. > > Regards, > > Sanjeev > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 27, 2008 Report Share Posted February 27, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear sanju ji . Technicaly when a planet is in strenght like own house .mool trikona or exlatation and also in a kendra from lagna is qulified for Pancha maha purusha raja yoga ( means tra grahas exceept sun ,moon or nodes ) But i personaly feels if its aspected by malefics ,the yoga s are reduced unless all planets in 4 kendras ( it gives another yoga known as amsa vatar yoga or chuttu sagara yoga or iqbali yoga ( in north india we call ikka vali )( tajik ) ( iqbal means lucky -i think in arabic ) regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "pashu_sanju" <pashu_sanju wrote:>> Dear Sunil Ji,> Namaskar,> Chart of the person is gemini lagna and Re-Ju is in 7th house with > moon. Ju is in Mool trikona sthan. Does it qualify as Panch > Mahapurusha Yoga?(classical definition says exalted Ju in kendra is > one of pancha Mahapurusha yoga)while in this case it is in mool > trikona sthan. Beside Ju is retro. Some does take mool trikona also > in Panch MP yoga.> Reagrds,> sanjeev> > > , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna> > > > dear sanju ji> > > > > > > > Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch > and> > experience .Also u posted a small boys chart .> > > > > > > > I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify > the> > areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may> > reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard > planets> > > > > > > > we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon > and> > jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without> > vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and> > moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in > good> > position also )> > > > > > > > Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga> > > > > > > > JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we > take> > as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga )> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > > > > > > > > > , "pashu_sanju"> > <pashu_sanju@> wrote:> > >> > > Namaskar,> > > It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of> > > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny> > > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on > this> > > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one > such> > > person. Birth data is given below:> > > DoB:29/7/1996> > > ToB: 3:35 AM> > > Place: Gwalior> > >> > > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in> > D-10,> > > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this > person> > > with reference to above querry.> > > Regards,> > > Sanjeev> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi With regards to GK, I think it is common but not for the opposition aspect between Moon and Jupiter. This particular aspect is considered par excellence irregardless of all other varied GK aspect involving any planet in its own sign, exaltation or moolatrikona in reference to Lagna or the Moon square or conjunct Jupiter. The opposition aspect between Chandra and Guru can potentially ward off almost all evil irregardless of whether they are placed in Angular Houses or not. Such has been my observation. Jupiter being an inherently beneficial, even in Retro, cannot do much harm to this opposition aspect. (Retro of a planet means the planet is out of mischief and goes out of hand but Jupiter being the significator of the 5th and the 9th would tone down Guru's anarchic behaviour). But I also agree that when the Moon opposes Jupiter, no other malefic planets should be at any of the four arms of the cross where one of the axis of the cross is the Moon and Jupiter in opposition. Regards Hock Leong , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear sanju ji . > > Technicaly when a planet is in strenght like own house .mool trikona > or exlatation and also in a kendra from lagna is qulified for Pancha > maha purusha raja yoga ( means tra grahas exceept sun ,moon or nodes ) > > But i personaly feels if its aspected by malefics ,the yoga s are > reduced unless all planets in 4 kendras ( it gives another yoga known as > amsa vatar yoga or chuttu sagara yoga or iqbali yoga ( in north india we > call ikka vali )( tajik ) ( iqbal means lucky -i think in arabic ) > > > > regrds sunil nair > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > , " pashu_sanju " > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sunil Ji, > > Namaskar, > > Chart of the person is gemini lagna and Re-Ju is in 7th house with > > moon. Ju is in Mool trikona sthan. Does it qualify as Panch > > Mahapurusha Yoga?(classical definition says exalted Ju in kendra is > > one of pancha Mahapurusha yoga)while in this case it is in mool > > trikona sthan. Beside Ju is retro. Some does take mool trikona also > > in Panch MP yoga. > > Reagrds, > > sanjeev > > > > > > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > > > > > dear sanju ji > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch > > and > > > experience .Also u posted a small boys chart . > > > > > > > > > > > > I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify > > the > > > areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may > > > reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon > > and > > > jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without > > > vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and > > > moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in > > good > > > position also ) > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we > > take > > > as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > , " pashu_sanju " > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of > > > > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny > > > > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on > > this > > > > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one > > such > > > > person. Birth data is given below: > > > > DoB:29/7/1996 > > > > ToB: 3:35 AM > > > > Place: Gwalior > > > > > > > > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in > > > D-10, > > > > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this > > person > > > > with reference to above querry. > > > > Regards, > > > > Sanjeev > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi Hock Leongk, I guess I have such combination could you please suggest if this is favorable for me or not. I personally observed I always get some delays and trouble in most of my works. My birth details are: 26/10/1976 5:50 am Kanpur (Uttar Pradesh), India Regards Sandeep On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, hockleongk <hockleongk wrote: HiWith regards to GK, I think it is common but not for the oppositionaspect between Moon and Jupiter. This particular aspect is consideredpar excellence irregardless of all other varied GK aspect involving any planet in its own sign, exaltation or moolatrikona in reference toLagna or the Moon square or conjunct Jupiter.The opposition aspect between Chandra and Guru can potentially wardoff almost all evil irregardless of whether they are placed in Angular Houses or not. Such has been my observation.Jupiter being an inherently beneficial, even in Retro, cannot do muchharm to this opposition aspect. (Retro of a planet means the planetis out of mischief and goes out of hand but Jupiter being the significator of the 5th and the 9th would tone down Guru's anarchicbehaviour). But I also agree that when the Moon opposes Jupiter, noother malefic planets should be at any of the four arms of the crosswhere one of the axis of the cross is the Moon and Jupiter in opposition. RegardsHock Leong , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: >> > > > Hare rama krishna> > dear sanju ji .> > Technicaly when a planet is in strenght like own house .mooltrikona> or exlatation and also in a kendra from lagna is qulified for Pancha > maha purusha raja yoga ( means tra grahas exceept sun ,moon or nodes )> > But i personaly feels if its aspected by malefics ,the yoga s are> reduced unless all planets in 4 kendras ( it gives another yoga known as > amsa vatar yoga or chuttu sagara yoga or iqbali yoga ( in north india we> call ikka vali )( tajik ) ( iqbal means lucky -i think in arabic )> > > > regrds sunil nair> > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > , " pashu_sanju " > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > >> > Dear Sunil Ji,> > Namaskar,> > Chart of the person is gemini lagna and Re-Ju is in 7th house with> > moon. Ju is in Mool trikona sthan. Does it qualify as Panch> > Mahapurusha Yoga?(classical definition says exalted Ju in kendra is > > one of pancha Mahapurusha yoga)while in this case it is in mool> > trikona sthan. Beside Ju is retro. Some does take mool trikona also> > in Panch MP yoga.> > Reagrds,> > sanjeev > >> >> > , " sunil nair " > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > >> > >> > >> > >> > > Hare ramakrishna> > >> > > dear sanju ji> > >> > >> > >> > > Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch > > and> > > experience .Also u posted a small boys chart .> > >> > >> > >> > > I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify > > the> > > areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may> > > reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard> > planets> > > > > >> > >> > > we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon> > and> > > jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without > > > vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and> > > moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in> > good> > > position also ) > > >> > >> > >> > > Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga> > >> > >> > >> > > JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we > > take> > > as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga )> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > regrds sunil nair > > >> > >> > >> > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah.> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , " pashu_sanju " > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote:> > > >> > > > Namaskar,> > > > It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of> > > > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny > > > > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on> > this> > > > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one> > such> > > > person. Birth data is given below: > > > > DoB:29/7/1996> > > > ToB: 3:35 AM> > > > Place: Gwalior> > > >> > > > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in > > > D-10,> > > > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this> > person> > > > with reference to above querry.> > > > Regards,> > > > Sanjeev > > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 28, 2008 Report Share Posted February 28, 2008 Hi It is the group's motto not to accept readings in this web site. But since it is tied to this thread of conversation on Retrogade Jupiter involvement in Rajyoga, I will answer your request to shed light on the matter for the group's benefit and for further discussion. Your opposition of Moon to Jupiter the orb is wide (about 17 degrees). Orbs count in Vedic as well, so it is less strong the wider the orb. Jupiter in the 8th House is fully combust. Again this weakens the aspect although I did mention that the opposition is regardless of where the planets are placed. But if Trika Houses are involved, that's a different thing. Eight House deals with obstacles and delays. Most of your planets are in the 1st quadrant of the chart. This shows you are an activity person. You like to do things fast. Not only that, Mercury, Rahu and Mars are all impatient planets (Uranus is also there and it is also impatient) and they all in the 1st House. But Venus, Moon and Jupiter (Jupiter is opposite the 2nd) are all placid, watery planets. This shows as a person you are impatient waiting for results (1st House rules disposition) but resources marshaled that come to your aid in performing your tasks tend to be achieved slowly. The resources do not fall in place as quickly as what you want and expect (Neptune is also placid). But somehow or other you manage to work around the delays to achieve your aim. Saturn the YK (ruling 4th and 5th) is in the 10th House of Aims. Saturn is patient and accepts limitations even in one's self and in this case it is ruling the best Housess in the chart. But in the 10th it may thwart your aims somewhat. Regards Hock Leong , " s g " <sg.1000 wrote: > > Hi Hock Leongk, > > I guess I have such combination could you please suggest if this is > favorable for me or not. I personally observed I always get some delays and > trouble in most of my works. > > My birth details are: > > 26/10/1976 > 5:50 am > Kanpur (Uttar Pradesh), India > Regards > Sandeep > On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 5:39 PM, hockleongk <hockleongk wrote: > > > Hi > > > > With regards to GK, I think it is common but not for the opposition > > aspect between Moon and Jupiter. This particular aspect is considered > > par excellence irregardless of all other varied GK aspect involving > > any planet in its own sign, exaltation or moolatrikona in reference to > > Lagna or the Moon square or conjunct Jupiter. > > > > The opposition aspect between Chandra and Guru can potentially ward > > off almost all evil irregardless of whether they are placed in Angular > > Houses or not. Such has been my observation. > > > > Jupiter being an inherently beneficial, even in Retro, cannot do much > > harm to this opposition aspect. (Retro of a planet means the planet > > is out of mischief and goes out of hand but Jupiter being the > > significator of the 5th and the 9th would tone down Guru's anarchic > > behaviour). But I also agree that when the Moon opposes Jupiter, no > > other malefic planets should be at any of the four arms of the cross > > where one of the axis of the cross is the Moon and Jupiter in opposition. > > > > Regards > > > > Hock Leong > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " sunil nair " > > <astro_tellerkerala@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > > > > > dear sanju ji . > > > > > > Technicaly when a planet is in strenght like own house .mool > > trikona > > > or exlatation and also in a kendra from lagna is qulified for Pancha > > > maha purusha raja yoga ( means tra grahas exceept sun ,moon or nodes ) > > > > > > But i personaly feels if its aspected by malefics ,the yoga s are > > > reduced unless all planets in 4 kendras ( it gives another yoga known as > > > amsa vatar yoga or chuttu sagara yoga or iqbali yoga ( in north india we > > > call ikka vali )( tajik ) ( iqbal means lucky -i think in arabic ) > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " pashu_sanju " > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Sunil Ji, > > > > Namaskar, > > > > Chart of the person is gemini lagna and Re-Ju is in 7th house with > > > > moon. Ju is in Mool trikona sthan. Does it qualify as Panch > > > > Mahapurusha Yoga?(classical definition says exalted Ju in kendra is > > > > one of pancha Mahapurusha yoga)while in this case it is in mool > > > > trikona sthan. Beside Ju is retro. Some does take mool trikona also > > > > in Panch MP yoga. > > > > Reagrds, > > > > sanjeev > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " sunil nair " > > > > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Hare ramakrishna > > > > > > > > > > dear sanju ji > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Pls no request for reading ,we can discuss on basis of reserch > > > > and > > > > > experience .Also u posted a small boys chart . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I also personaly blve retro planets gives a more effort to fruitify > > > > the > > > > > areas specified by them .when in invlove raja yoga or GK yoga it may > > > > > reduce the effect .More so if also afflicted by nodes or by hard > > > > planets > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > we can nnot say GK ( read as gaja kesari ) is good unless the moon > > > > and > > > > > jup represents good houses also with some strenght and also without > > > > > vakra and affliction or debilation .(for example lagna aries JUP and > > > > > moon in sag ,so here jup is 9th Lord and moon is 4th Lord and in > > > > good > > > > > position also ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Otherwise u can say GK with MOON is a common yoga > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > JUP in lagna kendra also can be taken as GK yoga and in strnght we > > > > take > > > > > as hamsa yoga (one of panch maha purush yoga ) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > " pashu_sanju " > > > > > <pashu_sanju@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > > Namaskar, > > > > > > It is said that Retro Ju has negative effects in fructfication of > > > > > > rajyoga if it is involved in rajyoga. It may delay results or deny > > > > > > results of rajyoga. Can members of this group throw some light on > > > > this > > > > > > based on their research/practical examples. I have chart of one > > > > such > > > > > > person. Birth data is given below: > > > > > > DoB:29/7/1996 > > > > > > ToB: 3:35 AM > > > > > > Place: Gwalior > > > > > > > > > > > > Above person has Gajkesari Yoga in D-1, while Grah malika yoga in > > > > > D-10, > > > > > > involving retro Ju. What can we say about D-1 and D-10 of this > > > > person > > > > > > with reference to above querry. > > > > > > Regards, > > > > > > Sanjeev > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Sandeep ji, We have been communicating about group's stand in NOT encouraging personal readings. Would request you NOT to ask/request further queries on your individual hororscope, for this may encourage others also to jump in. The initial response of Mr. Hock is sufficient enough for you to understand. Kindly adhere to the rules in the group....and focus more on the astro_subjects. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , " s g " <sg.1000 wrote: > > Hi Hock Leongk, > I guess I have such combination could you please suggest if this is favorable for me or not. I personally observed I always get some delays and trouble in most of my works. My birth details are: 26/10/1976 5:50 am Kanpur (Uttar Pradesh), India Regards Sandeep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Srinivis ji,My Intention was only to understand the effect of moon and Jupiter aspect on each as I happen to have similar combination. I requested to study its pros and cons.RegardsSandeep On Fri, Feb 29, 2008 at 8:01 AM, sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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