Guest guest Posted June 1, 2006 Report Share Posted June 1, 2006 Dear Sreenadh ji This meaning is taking us further close.Our understandings are going in the right direction. Thanks Pradeep , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear Vijayadas ji, > I would like to add - > Navamsa = 1/9 th of a sign. > Navamsaka = The sign to which that 1/9 th part is assigned to. > Love, > Sreenadh > > , " vijayadas_pradeep " > <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji > > > > As usual,you are sharing lots of classical verses.When we have > > support of Pramana,we are in the right track. > > Thanks a lot for correcting the grammar.Hope to learn more. > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > , sree nadh > > <sreesog@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Vijayadas ji, > > > Please go through my message on " How to predict with Navamsa " . > > That also support and substantiate your view and understanding. > > > For example: > > > If Su in in 9 deg Aries, then - > > > Navamsa = 3rd Navamsa of Aries. > > > Navamsa " ka " = Gemini (Since the navamsa of Sun falls in > > Gemini) > > > There is no need to say " Navamshaka Rashi " . The word navamsaka > > itself indicte a Rasi. Go through the classical quotes, and you > will > > understand this point. > > > > > > As you said: > > > 1) Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi. > > > Therefore Ju has Mithuna navamsaka. That is the navamsa OF > > some sign falls IN Mithuna. > > > 2) Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna > > > Yap. But there is no need of the word Rashi. > > > " Navamsaka OF Ju is Mithuna " , that is enough. Since the > > planets does not have navamsa but only signs, I would be better > > pleased if you use the terminology - > > > " Navamsaka FOR Ju is Mithuna " > > > To conclude and clarify - > > > Agin think that Su is in 9 deg Aries. Then - > > > 1) Su is IN 3rd navamsa OF Aries. > > > 2) Navamsaka OF Aries 3rd navamsa IS Gemini. > > > 3) Navamsaka FOR Su IS Gemini > > > Love, > > > Sreenadh > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote: > > > Dear Madhu ji > > > > > > Thanks for sharing your valuable understanding as a confirmation > > to my > > > views. > > > > > > Regds > > > Pradeep > > > > > > , VYASAJI > > <vyasatvm@> > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Vijay, > > > > I fully agree with your views and this is exactly what is > > being > > > followed by well known Astrologers of Kerala. > > > > Best Regards > > > > Madhu N Nair > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote: > > > > Dear Narasimha ji & Sanjay ji > > > > > > > > Narasimha ji,i would like to second your opinion here.Sama- > > Saptaka is > > > > just pointing to mutual 1/7th.Sama is to qualify the ''similar'' > > > > distance from one another and saptaka explains the distance > > > > viz,seven.This is the only relationship in jyotish,where the > > distance > > > is > > > > similar and hence the usage of sama. > > > > > > > > Sanjayji -Myself had expressed similar concern over your > > explanation > > > of > > > > karakamsha''ka'',for which you were not interested in a reply.In > > > Kerala > > > > the age old tradition(parampara) uses the word ''Amshakam'' for > > the > > > > Navamsha of planets.(Sathya is Sathyam as per our usage and > hence > > > > Amashaka is Amshakam for us).They also say ''Amshichirkkunna > > Rashi'' - > > > > Literally meaning :the Rashi on to which a planet is having > > amsha. > > > > Thus Navamsha or Karakamsha qualifies the source(planet or > lagna) > > > while > > > > Navamshaka or Karakamshaka qualifies the destination > (Rashi).Thus > > we > > > can > > > > express navamsha in two grammatical forms. > > > > > > > > a)Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi > > > > b)Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna - (Kindly note the > > > > grammatical difference ) > > > > > > > > You are free to hold different views. > > > > > > > > Thanks > > > > Pradeep > > > > > > > > > > > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@ > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Pranaams Sanjay, > > > > > > > > > > > Sama-Saptaka " means mutual seventh and refers to the > > placement of > > > > two > > > > > > 'otherwise friendly planets' in mutual one-seventh houses > > from > > > each > > > > other. > > > > > > The placement of two diremalefics in such places is not > > considered > > > > > > 'sama-saptaka'. For this purpose the planets must have at > > least > > > > 'SAMA' > > > > > > relationship in the Graha Maitrya (five types of > > relationship) > > > > table. > > > > > > > > > > Is this simply your thinking or based on a classic or > > tradition? > > > > > > > > > > Sama seems to suggest equality of placement (i.e. 7 and 7 > > instead of > > > 6 > > > > and 8 or 8 and 6 or 2 and 12 etc) rather than neutrality of > > > > relationship. Instead of saying " sapta-saptakam " (like > > > " shad-ashtakam " ), > > > > they say " sama saptakam " . It does not seem to suggest that > > planets > > > > should have atleast " sama " relationship. That would seem like a > > > > far-fetched interpretation. Moreover, I have seen learned > elders > > using > > > > the term " Ravi-Shani sama saptakam " when Sun and Saturn are in > > Cp-Cn > > > or > > > > Sg-Ge etc. > > > > > > > > > > Thus, I will be skeptical about what you said, unless you > have > > some > > > > kind of strong basis. Please let us know the basis for your > > statement. > > > > > > > > > > May the light of Brahman shine within, > > > > > Narasimha > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically > > different. > > > Just radically better. > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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