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Dear Sreenadh ji

 

As usual,you are sharing lots of classical verses.When we have

support of Pramana,we are in the right track.

Thanks a lot for correcting the grammar.Hope to learn more.

 

Pradeep

 

 

, sree nadh

<sreesog wrote:

>

> Dear Vijayadas ji,

> Please go through my message on " How to predict with Navamsa " .

That also support and substantiate your view and understanding.

> For example:

> If Su in in 9 deg Aries, then -

> Navamsa = 3rd Navamsa of Aries.

> Navamsa " ka " = Gemini (Since the navamsa of Sun falls in

Gemini)

> There is no need to say " Navamshaka Rashi " . The word navamsaka

itself indicte a Rasi. Go through the classical quotes, and you will

understand this point.

>

> As you said:

> 1) Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi.

> Therefore Ju has Mithuna navamsaka. That is the navamsa OF

some sign falls IN Mithuna.

> 2) Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna

> Yap. But there is no need of the word Rashi.

> " Navamsaka OF Ju is Mithuna " , that is enough. Since the

planets does not have navamsa but only signs, I would be better

pleased if you use the terminology -

> " Navamsaka FOR Ju is Mithuna "

> To conclude and clarify -

> Agin think that Su is in 9 deg Aries. Then -

> 1) Su is IN 3rd navamsa OF Aries.

> 2) Navamsaka OF Aries 3rd navamsa IS Gemini.

> 3) Navamsaka FOR Su IS Gemini

> Love,

> Sreenadh

>

> vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> Dear Madhu ji

>

> Thanks for sharing your valuable understanding as a confirmation

to my

> views.

>

> Regds

> Pradeep

>

> , VYASAJI

<vyasatvm@>

> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijay,

> > I fully agree with your views and this is exactly what is

being

> followed by well known Astrologers of Kerala.

> > Best Regards

> > Madhu N Nair

> >

> >

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> > Dear Narasimha ji & Sanjay ji

> >

> > Narasimha ji,i would like to second your opinion here.Sama-

Saptaka is

> > just pointing to mutual 1/7th.Sama is to qualify the ''similar''

> > distance from one another and saptaka explains the distance

> > viz,seven.This is the only relationship in jyotish,where the

distance

> is

> > similar and hence the usage of sama.

> >

> > Sanjayji -Myself had expressed similar concern over your

explanation

> of

> > karakamsha''ka'',for which you were not interested in a reply.In

> Kerala

> > the age old tradition(parampara) uses the word ''Amshakam'' for

the

> > Navamsha of planets.(Sathya is Sathyam as per our usage and hence

> > Amashaka is Amshakam for us).They also say ''Amshichirkkunna

Rashi'' -

> > Literally meaning :the Rashi on to which a planet is having

amsha.

> > Thus Navamsha or Karakamsha qualifies the source(planet or lagna)

> while

> > Navamshaka or Karakamshaka qualifies the destination(Rashi).Thus

we

> can

> > express navamsha in two grammatical forms.

> >

> > a)Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi

> > b)Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna - (Kindly note the

> > grammatical difference )

> >

> > You are free to hold different views.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Pranaams Sanjay,

> > >

> > > > Sama-Saptaka " means mutual seventh and refers to the

placement of

> > two

> > > > 'otherwise friendly planets' in mutual one-seventh houses

from

> each

> > other.

> > > > The placement of two diremalefics in such places is not

considered

> > > > 'sama-saptaka'. For this purpose the planets must have at

least

> > 'SAMA'

> > > > relationship in the Graha Maitrya (five types of

relationship)

> > table.

> > >

> > > Is this simply your thinking or based on a classic or

tradition?

> > >

> > > Sama seems to suggest equality of placement (i.e. 7 and 7

instead of

> 6

> > and 8 or 8 and 6 or 2 and 12 etc) rather than neutrality of

> > relationship. Instead of saying " sapta-saptakam " (like

> " shad-ashtakam " ),

> > they say " sama saptakam " . It does not seem to suggest that

planets

> > should have atleast " sama " relationship. That would seem like a

> > far-fetched interpretation. Moreover, I have seen learned elders

using

> > the term " Ravi-Shani sama saptakam " when Sun and Saturn are in

Cp-Cn

> or

> > Sg-Ge etc.

> > >

> > > Thus, I will be skeptical about what you said, unless you have

some

> > kind of strong basis. Please let us know the basis for your

statement.

> > >

> > > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > > Narasimha

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > Sneak preview the all-new .com. It's not radically

different.

> Just radically better.

> >

> >

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