] Sama-Saptaka-To Vijay Das Pradeep/Sreenadh ji

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Dear Vijayadas ji,

I would like to add -

Navamsa = 1/9 th of a sign.

Navamsaka = The sign to which that 1/9 th part is assigned to.

Love,

Sreenadh

 

, " vijayadas_pradeep "

<vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

>

> Dear Sreenadh ji

>

> As usual,you are sharing lots of classical verses.When we have

> support of Pramana,we are in the right track.

> Thanks a lot for correcting the grammar.Hope to learn more.

>

> Pradeep

>

>

> , sree nadh

> <sreesog@> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Vijayadas ji,

> > Please go through my message on " How to predict with Navamsa " .

> That also support and substantiate your view and understanding.

> > For example:

> > If Su in in 9 deg Aries, then -

> > Navamsa = 3rd Navamsa of Aries.

> > Navamsa " ka " = Gemini (Since the navamsa of Sun falls in

> Gemini)

> > There is no need to say " Navamshaka Rashi " . The word navamsaka

> itself indicte a Rasi. Go through the classical quotes, and you

will

> understand this point.

> >

> > As you said:

> > 1) Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi.

> > Therefore Ju has Mithuna navamsaka. That is the navamsa OF

> some sign falls IN Mithuna.

> > 2) Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna

> > Yap. But there is no need of the word Rashi.

> > " Navamsaka OF Ju is Mithuna " , that is enough. Since the

> planets does not have navamsa but only signs, I would be better

> pleased if you use the terminology -

> > " Navamsaka FOR Ju is Mithuna "

> > To conclude and clarify -

> > Agin think that Su is in 9 deg Aries. Then -

> > 1) Su is IN 3rd navamsa OF Aries.

> > 2) Navamsaka OF Aries 3rd navamsa IS Gemini.

> > 3) Navamsaka FOR Su IS Gemini

> > Love,

> > Sreenadh

> >

> > vijayadas_pradeep <vijayadas_pradeep@> wrote:

> > Dear Madhu ji

> >

> > Thanks for sharing your valuable understanding as a confirmation

> to my

> > views.

> >

> > Regds

> > Pradeep

> >

> > , VYASAJI

> <vyasatvm@>

> > wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Vijay,

> > > I fully agree with your views and this is exactly what is

> being

> > followed by well known Astrologers of Kerala.

> > > Best Regards

> > > Madhu N Nair

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > vijayadas_pradeep vijayadas_pradeep@ wrote:

> > > Dear Narasimha ji & Sanjay ji

> > >

> > > Narasimha ji,i would like to second your opinion here.Sama-

> Saptaka is

> > > just pointing to mutual 1/7th.Sama is to qualify the ''similar''

> > > distance from one another and saptaka explains the distance

> > > viz,seven.This is the only relationship in jyotish,where the

> distance

> > is

> > > similar and hence the usage of sama.

> > >

> > > Sanjayji -Myself had expressed similar concern over your

> explanation

> > of

> > > karakamsha''ka'',for which you were not interested in a reply.In

> > Kerala

> > > the age old tradition(parampara) uses the word ''Amshakam'' for

> the

> > > Navamsha of planets.(Sathya is Sathyam as per our usage and

hence

> > > Amashaka is Amshakam for us).They also say ''Amshichirkkunna

> Rashi'' -

> > > Literally meaning :the Rashi on to which a planet is having

> amsha.

> > > Thus Navamsha or Karakamsha qualifies the source(planet or

lagna)

> > while

> > > Navamshaka or Karakamshaka qualifies the destination

(Rashi).Thus

> we

> > can

> > > express navamsha in two grammatical forms.

> > >

> > > a)Navamsha of Jupiter is IN Mithuna Rashi

> > > b)Navamsha''ka'' Rashi OF jupiter is Mithuna - (Kindly note the

> > > grammatical difference )

> > >

> > > You are free to hold different views.

> > >

> > > Thanks

> > > Pradeep

> > >

> > >

> > > , " Narasimha P.V.R. Rao " pvr@

> > > wrote:

> > > >

> > > > Pranaams Sanjay,

> > > >

> > > > > Sama-Saptaka " means mutual seventh and refers to the

> placement of

> > > two

> > > > > 'otherwise friendly planets' in mutual one-seventh houses

> from

> > each

> > > other.

> > > > > The placement of two diremalefics in such places is not

> considered

> > > > > 'sama-saptaka'. For this purpose the planets must have at

> least

> > > 'SAMA'

> > > > > relationship in the Graha Maitrya (five types of

> relationship)

> > > table.

> > > >

> > > > Is this simply your thinking or based on a classic or

> tradition?

> > > >

> > > > Sama seems to suggest equality of placement (i.e. 7 and 7

> instead of

> > 6

> > > and 8 or 8 and 6 or 2 and 12 etc) rather than neutrality of

> > > relationship. Instead of saying " sapta-saptakam " (like

> > " shad-ashtakam " ),

> > > they say " sama saptakam " . It does not seem to suggest that

> planets

> > > should have atleast " sama " relationship. That would seem like a

> > > far-fetched interpretation. Moreover, I have seen learned

elders

> using

> > > the term " Ravi-Shani sama saptakam " when Sun and Saturn are in

> Cp-Cn

> > or

> > > Sg-Ge etc.

> > > >

> > > > Thus, I will be skeptical about what you said, unless you

have

> some

> > > kind of strong basis. Please let us know the basis for your

> statement.

> > > >

> > > > May the light of Brahman shine within,

> > > > Narasimha

> > >

> > >

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