Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 DEAR SIR, WITH THE PERMISSION OF OUR GURUJ WE WILL START LEARNING. D.JAYAKUMAR lion_draco1983 <lion_draco1983 wrote: Dear group and learned memebrs . I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas . So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi yogas started and many members contributed in it . Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the kemadrooma yoga is formed . and some exceptions are given also . It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited . so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of this . some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still learning here .And also sharing what we know best . thanks to all in advance . regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . D.JAYAKUMAR Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dear Raghavan ji, I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in the vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th signs from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, this yoga is nullified. What do you think? And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma. Regards, Krishna lion_draco1983 <lion_draco1983 wrote: Dear group and learned memebrs . I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas . So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi yogas started and many members contributed in it . Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the kemadrooma yoga is formed . and some exceptions are given also . It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited . so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of this . some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still learning here .And also sharing what we know best . thanks to all in advance . regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically. Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the native may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may be having a comfortable living in the eyes of others. Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the neighbour of Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him relatively poor. Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among Diogenes and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches... chandra hari , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Raghavan ji,> > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in the vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th signs from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, this yoga is nullified. What do you think?> > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma.> > Regards,> Krishna> > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983 wrote:> > Dear group and learned memebrs .> > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas .> So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi yogas started and many members contributed in it .> Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the kemadrooma yoga is formed .> and some exceptions are given also .> It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited .> > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of this .> some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not .> pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us .> some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still learning here .And also sharing what we know best .> > thanks to all in advance .> regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur .> > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dea Jayakumar ji, Guruji?!!! I wonder who is guruji here!!! Dear Jaya kumar there is NO gurus and sishyas here. Even if you ask there is no guruji to give or take permission here :=) Love, Sreenadh , doraiswamy jayakumar <jayajaya006 wrote: > > DEAR SIR, > WITH THE PERMISSION OF OUR GURUJ WE WILL START LEARNING. > > D.JAYAKUMAR > > > > > lion_draco1983 <lion_draco1983 wrote: > > Dear group and learned memebrs . > > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas . > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi yogas started and many members contributed in it . > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the kemadrooma yoga is formed . > and some exceptions are given also . > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited . > > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of this . > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still learning here .And also sharing what we know best . > > thanks to all in advance . > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . > D.JAYAKUMAR > > > Forgot the famous last words? Access your message archive online. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 3, 2007 Report Share Posted December 3, 2007 Dear All, I have the following opinions regarding this yoga - * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara) * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma yoga happens. * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the results would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some other yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is present the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of wealth) results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma yoga is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still the native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such horoscope is available. Love and regards, Sreenadh , " chandra_hari18 " <chandra_hari18 wrote: > > > Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects > manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks > dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically. > > Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the native > may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may be > having a comfortable living in the eyes of others. > > Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the neighbour of > Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him relatively > poor. > > Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among Diogenes > and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and > Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches... > > chandra hari > > > > > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Dear Raghavan ji, > > > > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in the > vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th signs > from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, this > yoga is nullified. What do you think? > > > > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ wrote: > > > > Dear group and learned memebrs . > > > > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas . > > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi > yogas started and many members contributed in it . > > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the > kemadrooma yoga is formed . > > and some exceptions are given also . > > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly > families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This > is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its > some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited . > > > > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already > experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of > this . > > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . > > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again > i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . > > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv > their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still > learning here .And also sharing what we know best . > > > > thanks to all in advance . > > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See > how. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 DEAR LEARNED MEMBERS, It is said that kemadruma yoga exists if there are no planets in kendra,no planets in 2nd and 12th (rah, ketu and sun are exempt and they cannot be taken into consideration even if they are in 2nd or 12th from moon). Now what is the effect when moon is alone without any benefic aspects on it. the native will be constantly thinking and some times he may feel that he is in a different world. they talk to themselves while walking or sitting or doing any other work. they are over sensitive. so sometimes it can affect their concenteration power and dull their reasoning abilities. otherwise this kemadruma yoga doesnt have a great negative impact on life. this is what i have seen. maybe learned members can share their experience with such horoscopes. good luck, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 dear gayathriji, the chart u have provided doesnt have kemadruma yoga. because saturn is with moon. for kemadruma yoga no planets along with moon and no planets in 2nd and 12th from moon and no planets in kendra. good luck, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools.search./newsearch/category.php?category=shopping Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Dear Gayatri ji, We are discussing Kemadruma Yoga in this group for LEARNING purpose. So when ever you present some chart which matches with the current thread of discussion, please ensure that it would be of a grown up individual, at least enough to verify the combination and results. Now take your example - the major result attributed to Kemadruma yoga is " poverty in the Dasa or antara of Moon " - and what you are presenting is the chart of a 4 year old kid!!! Do you think it will serve any purpose - of would value add to our discussions, I wonder?! Further the kid took birth in Rahu Dasa and Moon Dasa will never ever happen in his life!! Please be realistic while providing example charts (related to combinations under discussion), otherwise it won't serve any purpose. Love and regards, Sreenadh , Gayathri Karra <gr_karra wrote: > > Dear members > Namaste > > Iam giving a chart having kemadruma yoga > d o b ..13 11 2003 > t o b...16 26 00 > p o b...Hyderabad > > lagna...mesha...rahu > mithuna...moon and saturn > > simham...jupiter > > tula..sun and ketu > vrichikum...mercury and venus > kumbham..mars > > regard > gayathri > > > Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: > Dear All, > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga - > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara) > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma yoga > happens. > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the results > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some other > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is present > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of wealth) > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma yoga > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still the > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > horoscope is available. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " chandra_hari18 " > <chandra_hari18@> wrote: > > > > > > Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects > > manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks > > dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically. > > > > Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the > native > > may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may > be > > having a comfortable living in the eyes of others. > > > > Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the > neighbour of > > Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him > relatively > > poor. > > > > Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among > Diogenes > > and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and > > Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches... > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raghavan ji, > > > > > > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in > the > > vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th > signs > > from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, > this > > yoga is nullified. What do you think? > > > > > > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear group and learned memebrs . > > > > > > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important > yogas . > > > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on > chadradi > > yogas started and many members contributed in it . > > > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the > > kemadrooma yoga is formed . > > > and some exceptions are given also . > > > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in > kingly > > families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably > poor .This > > is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way > its > > some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are > invited . > > > > > > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already > > experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity > of > > this . > > > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . > > > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they > got .Again > > i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . > > > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior > can giv > > their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still > > learning here .And also sharing what we know best . > > > > > > thanks to all in advance . > > > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > Mail. See > > how. > > > > > > Be a better sports nut! Let your teams follow you with Mobile. Try it now. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 Dear krishna ji . yes according to exceptions ,if any planets in kendra or may be even trkona should support or minimise or cancell this yoga ,as i find in bill gates chart also this yoga . But he lagna is disputed as in astrological magazine itself i find may be 5 different lagnas some writers used to justify what ever discussions they may be doing . But moon will be in meena rasi as it need min 2 days(21/4 days total) to change sign and so for us we r not worried abt the lagna . And his moon dasa yet to come may be now sun is running . so wat i wanted to stress is there is no planet from moon in 12th or 2nd house and but there is another good chandradi yogas are there which again promising prsoperity ,see in 6th jup and in 7th exalted mercury and mars and in 8th sun ,sat (exalted ) and venus in own sign . from moon venus is 8th lord and in 8th house .and he has come up in venus dasa and now sun dasa denilated tho its cancelled in many ways . So i think this yoga is all abt the support moon ( the mind --chandra hari also mentioned here ) .and Now we can see may be wat moon has in store for him in later years . so what we must see in any chart is whether any one who had loses irrespectiv of raja yogas and may be even benefic dasas ,and if moon dasa when will come or at the time of mishapps whether moon dasa was running. regrds Vijayaraghavan guruvayur . , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Raghavan ji,> > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in the vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th signs from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, this yoga is nullified. What do you think?> > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma.> > Regards,> Krishna> > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983 wrote:> > Dear group and learned memebrs .> > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas .> So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi yogas started and many members contributed in it .> Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the kemadrooma yoga is formed .> and some exceptions are given also .> It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited .> > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of this .> some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not .> pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us .> some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still learning here .And also sharing what we know best .> > thanks to all in advance .> regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur .> > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See how.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2007 Report Share Posted December 4, 2007 dear chandrahari ji , yes ,its what i wanted to discuss and whether this is dasa dependent or chartdependent and when or how it can fruitify . we hav to see charts with good yogas with moon is powerful and not . Thank u . regrds Vijaya raghavan guruvayur . , "chandra_hari18" <chandra_hari18 wrote:>> > Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects> manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks> dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically.> > Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the native> may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may be> having a comfortable living in the eyes of others.> > Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the neighbour of> Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him relatively> poor.> > Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among Diogenes> and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and> Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches...> > chandra hari> > > > > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear Raghavan ji,> >> > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in the> vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th signs> from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, this> yoga is nullified. What do you think?> >> > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> >> > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ wrote:> >> > Dear group and learned memebrs .> >> > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important yogas .> > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on chadradi> yogas started and many members contributed in it .> > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the> kemadrooma yoga is formed .> > and some exceptions are given also .> > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in kingly> families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably poor .This> is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way its> some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are invited .> >> > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already> experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity of> this .> > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not .> > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they got .Again> i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us .> > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior can giv> their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still> learning here .And also sharing what we know best .> >> > thanks to all in advance .> > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur .> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside Mail. See> how.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear friends, here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me), who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his fifteies is currently undergoing MD of Moon. u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far. 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m. 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m. Best regards, vinita , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga - > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara) > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma yoga > happens. > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the results > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some other > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is present > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of wealth) > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma yoga > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still the > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > horoscope is available. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " chandra_hari18 " > <chandra_hari18@> wrote: > > > > > > Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects > > manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks > > dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically. > > > > Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the > native > > may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may > be > > having a comfortable living in the eyes of others. > > > > Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the > neighbour of > > Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him > relatively > > poor. > > > > Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among > Diogenes > > and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and > > Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches... > > > > chandra hari > > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy > > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Raghavan ji, > > > > > > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in > the > > vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th > signs > > from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, > this > > yoga is nullified. What do you think? > > > > > > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma. > > > > > > Regards, > > > Krishna > > > > > > > > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear group and learned memebrs . > > > > > > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important > yogas . > > > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on > chadradi > > yogas started and many members contributed in it . > > > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the > > kemadrooma yoga is formed . > > > and some exceptions are given also . > > > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in > kingly > > families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably > poor .This > > is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way > its > > some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are > invited . > > > > > > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already > > experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity > of > > this . > > > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not . > > > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they > got .Again > > i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us . > > > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior > can giv > > their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still > > learning here .And also sharing what we know best . > > > > > > thanks to all in advance . > > > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > Mail. See > > how. > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Vinita ji, In the first case, Moon is exalted and has Sun, Mars and Jupiter in Kendras. Having three planets in Kendras might have helped the native to a great extent. In the second case, Moon has Sun and Jupiter in Kendras, though Moon itself is in a dusthana. Again, good amount of modification is seen here. Thanks for sharing these charts. It is interesting to see the bhanga yogas are active here. Regards, Krishnavinita kumar <shankar_mamta wrote: Dear friends,here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me), who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his fifteies is currently undergoing MD of Moon.u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far.3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.Best regards,vinita , "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:>> Dear All,> I have the following opinions regarding this yoga -> * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara)> * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma yoga > happens. > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the results > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some other > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is present > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of wealth) > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma yoga > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still the > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > horoscope is available. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , "chandra_hari18" > <chandra_hari18@> wrote:> >> > > > Yoga may be correct. But its application has to be careful. Effects> > manifests only when other Rajayogas are not there and Moon lacks> > dignity. Amala Yoga is said to cancel Kemadruma specifically.> > > > Also, the Yoga's effect may be internal and not external i.e. the > native> > may be always aggrieved of his lack of affluence even though he may > be> > having a comfortable living in the eyes of others.> > > > Also, Yoga may manifest in a relative sense. Like say the > neighbour of> > Ambanis or Bill Gates can have Kemadruma Yoga that makes him > relatively> > poor.> > > > Poverty is a mental state rather than living condition. Among > Diogenes> > and Alexander who had Kemadruma Yoga? Diogenes was satisfied and> > Alexander was avaricious and running to have more and more riches...> > > > chandra hari> > > > > > > > > > , Krishnamurthy> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Raghavan ji,> > >> > > I thin the essence of the yoga is that - there are no planets in > the> > vicinity of the moon. Hence, I feel that even if the 2nd and 12th > signs> > from Moon are empty, if there is a planet in the same sign as Moon, > this> > yoga is nullified. What do you think?> > >> > > And, should we count Rahu/Ketu here is another dilemma.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > >> > >> > > lion_draco1983 lion_draco1983@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear group and learned memebrs .> > >> > > I woud like every one of us to discuss various and important > yogas .> > > So we can start with chandra yogas ,which some discusson on > chadradi> > yogas started and many members contributed in it .> > > Every body knows when 12th and 2nd house from moon is empty the> > kemadrooma yoga is formed .> > > and some exceptions are given also .> > > It says this yoga is daridra yoga and even if some one born in > kingly> > families they finaly has to go tru penury and die miserably > poor .This> > is the result more or less written in sastras >If u read that way > its> > some what clear its not dasa dependent yoga .But all views are > invited .> > >> > > so let us discuss it in grp with some sample charts of already> > experincing persons who is old enough or dead to prove the validity > of> > this .> > > some says its dasa dependent yoga and some says its not .> > > pls post every one their views ,findings and teaching they > got .Again> > i request every one to participate and learned one to guide us .> > > some one can post charts also and learend and respected senior > can giv> > their views ,Pls dont think its testing some body ,we r all still> > learning here .And also sharing what we know best .> > >> > > thanks to all in advance .> > > regrds vijayaraghavan guruvayur .> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > Be a better pen pal. Text or chat with friends inside > Mail. See> > how.> > >> >> Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Vinita ji, Krishna is correct. But still note the following and please confirm whether true or false. Chart 1: 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m. Moon Dasa from 3 to 13 years of age. During this period his mother lost some family property and there was problems in family. The family (his father and mother) suffered financial setbacks during this period possibly along with some house/building destruction/construction etc as well. (3 to 13 years is too young a period in the life of a native for a yoga predicting 'less wealth' to take effect. Thus the result of such a Dasa should be applied to the family and especially mother during that period, than to the native) Chart 2: 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m. Moon Dasa from 58 to 68 years of age. The native lost some property during this period and is more dependent of children and could be with them. There occurred some loss of deposited money possibly due to bank/share-market collapse/crash etc. A good amount deposited money was withdrawn and spend for children and other purposes. Limited income and less growth of money. (Of course there is time remaining for this to manefest because Moon's Dasa started in 2006 only and will end only by 2016) Please revert and clarify that whether these statements are true or not - If true note that certainly Kemadruma is in action with diluted/modified effects. If false, I would have to agree that it not mere simple modification but a major modification almost equal to cancellation with many planets in Kendra of Moon. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Vinita ji,> > In the first case, Moon is exalted and has Sun, Mars and Jupiter in Kendras. Having three planets in Kendras might have helped the native to a great extent.> > In the second case, Moon has Sun and Jupiter in Kendras, though Moon itself is in a dusthana. Again, good amount of modification is seen here.> > Thanks for sharing these charts. It is interesting to see the bhanga yogas are active here.> > Regards,> Krishna> > vinita kumar shankar_mamta wrote:> Dear friends,> > here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me), > who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of > Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his fifteies is > currently undergoing MD of Moon.> > u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these > natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far.> > 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.> 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.> > Best regards,> vinita> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 dear shreenadh, i posted these details because according to JHL the moon vimsottari dasha for the first native started in 1982 when she was 13 years of age and for the second chart it started in 2005. how could there be so much difference in dasha periods? no, i am not aware that there were financial upheavals in the family...though in the second case the major part of the dasha remains to be over. thanks anyway, best regards, vinita , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Vinita ji, > Krishna is correct. But still note the following and please confirm > whether true or false. > > Chart 1: 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m. > Moon Dasa from 3 to 13 years of age. During this period his mother > lost some family property and there was problems in family. The family > (his father and mother) suffered financial setbacks during this period > possibly along with some house/building destruction/construction etc as > well. (3 to 13 years is too young a period in the life of a native for > a yoga predicting 'less wealth' to take effect. Thus the result of such > a Dasa should be applied to the family and especially mother during that > period, than to the native) > > Chart 2: 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m. > Moon Dasa from 58 to 68 years of age. The native lost some property > during this period and is more dependent of children and could be with > them. There occurred some loss of deposited money possibly due to > bank/share-market collapse/crash etc. A good amount deposited money was > withdrawn and spend for children and other purposes. Limited income and > less growth of money. (Of course there is time remaining for this to > manefest because Moon's Dasa started in 2006 only and will end only by > 2016) > > Please revert and clarify that whether these statements are true or not > - If true note that certainly Kemadruma is in action with > diluted/modified effects. If false, I would have to agree that it not > mere simple modification but a major modification almost equal to > cancellation with many planets in Kendra of Moon. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , Krishnamurthy > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote: > > > > Vinita ji, > > > > In the first case, Moon is exalted and has Sun, Mars and Jupiter in > Kendras. Having three planets in Kendras might have helped the native to > a great extent. > > > > In the second case, Moon has Sun and Jupiter in Kendras, though Moon > itself is in a dusthana. Again, good amount of modification is seen > here. > > > > Thanks for sharing these charts. It is interesting to see the bhanga > yogas are active here. > > > > Regards, > > Krishna > > > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta@ wrote: > > Dear friends, > > > > here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me), > > who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of > > Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his fifteies is > > currently undergoing MD of Moon. > > > > u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these > > natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far. > > > > 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m. > > 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m. > > > > Best regards, > > vinita > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Dear Vinita ji, ==> > how could there be so much difference in dasha periods? <== The minimum differ in case of birth in 1948 could be simply because I am always depend on True Ayanamsa of Suryasidhanta (proposed by Chandrahari). But such a big difference is not at all possible in case of that 1979 birth what ever Ayanamsa we use. Even if you are going by Lahari Ayanamsa the Moon's dasa was from 6 to 16 years of Age. ==> > i posted these details because according to JHL the moon vimsottari > dasha for the first native started in 1982 when she was 13 years of > age and for the second chart it started in 2005. <== This happened simply because either you entered wrong data in JHora or because you supplied wrong birth details here. Please note the very big mistake in your above statement - as per the supplied data the child is born in 1979 and you are stating that his/her age was 13 years in 1982!!! One aging upto 13 years of age in just 3 years!! I wonder how it could be.. ;=) Please cross verify the data. Love, Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> dear shreenadh,> > i posted these details because according to JHL the moon vimsottari > dasha for the first native started in 1982 when she was 13 years of > age and for the second chart it started in 2005.> > how could there be so much difference in dasha periods?> > no, i am not aware that there were financial upheavals in the > family...though in the second case the major part of the dasha > remains to be over.> > thanks anyway,> > best regards,> vinita > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Krishna is correct. But still note the following and please > confirm> > whether true or false.> > > > Chart 1: 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.> > Moon Dasa from 3 to 13 years of age. During this period his > mother> > lost some family property and there was problems in family. The > family> > (his father and mother) suffered financial setbacks during this > period> > possibly along with some house/building destruction/construction > etc as> > well. (3 to 13 years is too young a period in the life of a native > for> > a yoga predicting 'less wealth' to take effect. Thus the result of > such> > a Dasa should be applied to the family and especially mother during > that> > period, than to the native)> > > > Chart 2: 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.> > Moon Dasa from 58 to 68 years of age. The native lost some > property> > during this period and is more dependent of children and could be > with> > them. There occurred some loss of deposited money possibly due to> > bank/share-market collapse/crash etc. A good amount deposited money > was> > withdrawn and spend for children and other purposes. Limited income > and> > less growth of money. (Of course there is time remaining for this > to> > manefest because Moon's Dasa started in 2006 only and will end only > by> > 2016)> > > > Please revert and clarify that whether these statements are true > or not> > - If true note that certainly Kemadruma is in action with> > diluted/modified effects. If false, I would have to agree that it > not> > mere simple modification but a major modification almost equal to> > cancellation with many planets in Kendra of Moon.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , Krishnamurthy> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:> > >> > > Vinita ji,> > >> > > In the first case, Moon is exalted and has Sun, Mars and Jupiter > in> > Kendras. Having three planets in Kendras might have helped the > native to> > a great extent.> > >> > > In the second case, Moon has Sun and Jupiter in Kendras, though > Moon> > itself is in a dusthana. Again, good amount of modification is seen> > here.> > >> > > Thanks for sharing these charts. It is interesting to see the > bhanga> > yogas are active here.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > >> > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > Dear friends,> > >> > > here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me),> > > who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of> > > Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his > fifteies is> > > currently undergoing MD of Moon.> > >> > > u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these> > > natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far.> > >> > > 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.> > > 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.> > >> > > Best regards,> > > vinita> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Vinitaji, JHora gives two entries for Bhopal with different coordinates. The correct one is 77E... Regards, KrishnaSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Vinita ji, ==> > how could there be so much difference in dasha periods? <== The minimum differ in case of birth in 1948 could be simply because I am always depend on True Ayanamsa of Suryasidhanta (proposed by Chandrahari). But such a big difference is not at all possible in case of that 1979 birth what ever Ayanamsa we use. Even if you are going by Lahari Ayanamsa the Moon's dasa was from 6 to 16 years of Age. ==> > i posted these details because according to JHL the moon vimsottari > dasha for the first native started in 1982 when she was 13 years of > age and for the second chart it started in 2005. <== This happened simply because either you entered wrong data in JHora or because you supplied wrong birth details here. Please note the very big mistake in your above statement - as per the supplied data the child is born in 1979 and you are stating that his/her age was 13 years in 1982!!! One aging upto 13 years of age in just 3 years!! I wonder how it could be.. ;=) Please cross verify the data. Love, Sreenadh , "vinita kumar" <shankar_mamta wrote:>> dear shreenadh,> > i posted these details because according to JHL the moon vimsottari > dasha for the first native started in 1982 when she was 13 years of > age and for the second chart it started in 2005.> > how could there be so much difference in dasha periods?> > no, i am not aware that there were financial upheavals in the > family...though in the second case the major part of the dasha > remains to be over.> > thanks anyway,> > best regards,> vinita > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Vinita ji,> > Krishna is correct. But still note the following and please > confirm> > whether true or false.> > > > Chart 1: 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.> > Moon Dasa from 3 to 13 years of age. During this period his > mother> > lost some family property and there was problems in family. The > family> > (his father and mother) suffered financial setbacks during this > period> > possibly along with some house/building destruction/construction > etc as> > well. (3 to 13 years is too young a period in the life of a native > for> > a yoga predicting 'less wealth' to take effect. Thus the result of > such> > a Dasa should be applied to the family and especially mother during > that> > period, than to the native)> > > > Chart 2: 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.> > Moon Dasa from 58 to 68 years of age. The native lost some > property> > during this period and is more dependent of children and could be > with> > them. There occurred some loss of deposited money possibly due to> > bank/share-market collapse/crash etc. A good amount deposited money > was> > withdrawn and spend for children and other purposes. Limited income > and> > less growth of money. (Of course there is time remaining for this > to> > manefest because Moon's Dasa started in 2006 only and will end only > by> > 2016)> > > > Please revert and clarify that whether these statements are true > or not> > - If true note that certainly Kemadruma is in action with> > diluted/modified effects. If false, I would have to agree that it > not> > mere simple modification but a major modification almost equal to> > cancellation with many planets in Kendra of Moon.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , Krishnamurthy> > Seetharama <krishna_1998@> wrote:> > >> > > Vinita ji,> > >> > > In the first case, Moon is exalted and has Sun, Mars and Jupiter > in> > Kendras. Having three planets in Kendras might have helped the > native to> > a great extent.> > >> > > In the second case, Moon has Sun and Jupiter in Kendras, though > Moon> > itself is in a dusthana. Again, good amount of modification is seen> > here.> > >> > > Thanks for sharing these charts. It is interesting to see the > bhanga> > yogas are active here.> > >> > > Regards,> > > Krishna> > >> > > vinita kumar shankar_mamta@ wrote:> > > Dear friends,> > >> > > here are birth particulars of two natives (both known well to me),> > > who have moon in isolation.....One of the natives underwent MD of> > > Moon from 13 to 23 yrs of age and the other native in his > fifteies is> > > currently undergoing MD of Moon.> > >> > > u may test the significance of this yoga in the context of these> > > natives, neither of whom have experienced poverty so far.> > >> > > 3rd December,1979, Bhopal, 1.45 a.m.> > > 16th October, 1948, Calcutta, 5.19 p.m.> > >> > > Best regards,> > > vinita> > >> >> Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 5, 2007 Report Share Posted December 5, 2007 Hi Sreenadh ji & others I am providing my own chart with kemadruma and i am aged 37 and already passed thru the Moon MD. However it is when i am roughly 2 year old to 12 year old. Hence, as some other members pointed , direct poverty is not experienced. Further, no losses for parents also. Details: Male, 1971 June 30 , 06:00 AM , 81E47 , 16N59 , Indian TIme Gemini : Asc, Mercury,Sun Cancer : ketu Virgo: Moon Scorpio: Jup ® Capricorn: Rahu, Mars Taurus: Sat , Venus Moon MD : 1973 - 1983 I used JHora with Lahiri ayanamsa Thanks Nag , " Srenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > Dear All, > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga - > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara) > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma yoga > happens. > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the results > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some other > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is present > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of wealth) > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma yoga > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still the > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > horoscope is available. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Nag ji, Yours also a horoscope with Bhanga yoga, because Mercury is there in kendra of Moon in 10th from moon in Natal Lagna in Gemini. Moon sign in Virgo and there is no planets in Libra and Leo and the 4th sign from Moon is Sagittarius and the lord of Sagittarius Ju is in Scorpio. This points to the following results for you due to Kemadruma (with bhanga yoga) present in your chart. * You many not inherit ANY maternal land property, and even if some maternal property is given to you won't have the luck to enjoy the benefits of the same in your life. * Your mother had to quarrel with your maternal family members (her mother/father/brothers etc) during your Moon dasa period (while you were 2 to 12 years of age) - due to some reason or the other. And the quarrels/problems in maternal root family especially related to inherited land property was prevalent at that time and caused disturbance. (In a way it was a loss to your mother and to you as well - because the inheritance was supposed to descend up to you). By the way Moon is in Uttara Phalguni star - a bit quarrelsome star - so it indicates that you/your mother is a bit quarrelsome towards others, and win in such fights/quarrels. A sloka bit "Nakshatram uttramatum Vijaya pradam" from Ramayana comes to mind and that is why this side track statement. Please clarify these result derivations. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "chiru71" <chiru71 wrote:>> Hi Sreenadh ji & others> > I am providing my own chart with kemadruma and i am aged 37 and > already passed thru the Moon MD. However it is when i am roughly 2 > year old to 12 year old. Hence, as some other members pointed , > direct poverty is not experienced. Further, no losses for parents > also.> > Details:> > Male, 1971 June 30 , 06:00 AM , 81E47 , 16N59 , Indian TIme> > Gemini : Asc, Mercury,Sun> Cancer : ketu> Virgo: Moon> Scorpio: Jup ®> Capricorn: Rahu, Mars> Taurus: Sat , Venus> > Moon MD : 1973 - 1983> > I used JHora with Lahiri ayanamsa> > Thanks> Nag> > > , "Srenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > Dear All,> > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga -> > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara)> > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma > yoga > > happens. > > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the > results > > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some > other > > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is > present > > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of > wealth) > > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma > yoga > > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still > the > > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > > horoscope is available. > > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Hi Sreenadh Ji, Thanks for commenting on my chart. Here are the observations: 1. Absolutely. No maternal inheritence. Infact even paternal inheritence is also virtually nill - just a small old house around which lots of Jnati Baadha. 2. Correct to a max extent - During my 2 - 10 years i.e., Moon MD, there are some issues over a disputed land with in my mothers' brothers & sisters. How ever i could not ask my mother whether she has quarelled or not. But net effect is that she has not received any share from it. 3. Regarding Uttara nakshtra, i think the result do not apply in my case as me & my mother avoid quarells. Pranams Nag , " Sreenadh " <sreesog wrote: > > > Dear Nag ji, > Yours also a horoscope with Bhanga yoga, because Mercury is there in > kendra of Moon in 10th from moon in Natal Lagna in Gemini. > Moon sign in Virgo and there is no planets in Libra and Leo and the > 4th sign from Moon is Sagittarius and the lord of Sagittarius Ju is in > Scorpio. This points to the following results for you due to Kemadruma > (with bhanga yoga) present in your chart. > * You many not inherit ANY maternal land property, and even if some > maternal property is given to you won't have the luck to enjoy the > benefits of the same in your life. > * Your mother had to quarrel with your maternal family members (her > mother/father/brothers etc) during your Moon dasa period (while you were > 2 to 12 years of age) - due to some reason or the other. And the > quarrels/problems in maternal root family especially related to > inherited land property was prevalent at that time and caused > disturbance. (In a way it was a loss to your mother and to you as well > - because the inheritance was supposed to descend up to you). > By the way Moon is in Uttara Phalguni star - a bit quarrelsome star - > so it indicates that you/your mother is a bit quarrelsome towards > others, and win in such fights/quarrels. A sloka bit " Nakshatram > uttramatum Vijaya pradam " from Ramayana comes to mind and that is why > this side track statement. > Please clarify these result derivations. > Love and regards, > Sreenadh > > , " chiru71 " <chiru71@> > wrote: > > > > Hi Sreenadh ji & others > > > > I am providing my own chart with kemadruma and i am aged 37 and > > already passed thru the Moon MD. However it is when i am roughly 2 > > year old to 12 year old. Hence, as some other members pointed , > > direct poverty is not experienced. Further, no losses for parents > > also. > > > > Details: > > > > Male, 1971 June 30 , 06:00 AM , 81E47 , 16N59 , Indian TIme > > > > Gemini : Asc, Mercury,Sun > > Cancer : ketu > > Virgo: Moon > > Scorpio: Jup ® > > Capricorn: Rahu, Mars > > Taurus: Sat , Venus > > > > Moon MD : 1973 - 1983 > > > > I used JHora with Lahiri ayanamsa > > > > Thanks > > Nag > > > > > > , " Srenadh " > > sreesog@ wrote: > > > > > > Dear All, > > > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga - > > > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will > > > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara) > > > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma > > yoga > > > happens. > > > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only > > > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if the > > > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the > > results > > > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some > > other > > > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas' > > > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is > > present > > > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life as > > > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction. > > > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of > > wealth) > > > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty. > > > > > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma > > yoga > > > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but still > > the > > > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any such > > > horoscope is available. > > > Love and regards, > > > Sreenadh > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear K.Gopu Sir, Sorry I am interrupting you in this chain of mail. some astrologers informed me i have kemdrum yoga in my chart which is giving adverse effects. please guide me for its remedies. for your kind information, giving you my details : DOB 10-11-1962 time 12:05(noon) place of birth near ranikhet in uttranchal state (formally part of U.P.) Very sincerely yours, K Gopu <kgopu_24 Sent: Thursday, 6 December, 2007 5:13:45 PMRe: Re: Pls discuss KEMADROOMA YOGA - dear nag,ur chart doesnt show kemadruma yoga though the housesare empty before and after moon, but from lagna moonis in kendra,mercury is in kendra.from rasi mercury isin kendra.good luck,k.gopu____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Search. http://tools. search.. com/newsearch/ category. php?category= shopping Meet people who discuss and share your passions. Join them now.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 DOB 10-11-1962 time 12:05(noon) place of birth near ranikhet u dont have kemadruma yoga. fromlagna u have moon in the fourth and in 10th u have venus mercury and in 7th u have mars. from moon u have venus an dmercury which is kendra and also mars in kendra. so u dont have to perform any remedies for kemadruma yoga. good lcuk, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now. http://mobile./;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR8HDtDypao8Wcj9tAcJ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Respected Sirs, Thanks for your analysis and so prompt clarification. I was most worrying for this as there is no stability in jobs in hand and this is what i was asking you. some one astrologer in last year has calculated kendrum yoga in this chart and suggested the reason for my problem. may i ask you what is reason behind my problem and what should b remedy. very sincerely yours, K Gopu <kgopu_24 Sent: Friday, 7 December, 2007 6:23:30 AMRe: Re: Pls discuss KEMADROOMA YOGA - DOB 10-11-1962time 12:05(noon)place of birth near ranikhet u dont have kemadruma yoga. fromlagna u have moon inthe fourth and in 10th u have venus mercury and in 7thu have mars. from moon u have venus an dmercury whichis kendra and also mars in kendra. so u dont have toperform any remedies for kemadruma yoga.good lcuk,k.gopu____________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _________ _Be a better friend, newshound, and know-it-all with Mobile. Try it now.. http://mobile. / ;_ylt=Ahu06i62sR 8HDtDypao8Wcj9tA cJ Bollywood, fun, friendship, sports and more. You name it, we have it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 6, 2007 Report Share Posted December 6, 2007 Dear Nag ji, Thanks for the confirmation. I request others to note this - because it (and other similar examples) confirms that - Kemadruma yoga NEVER gets cancelled but only gets MODIFIED, giving some what dialuted results. Note: About the application of Ramayana quote in astrology and negated results, if you like take it an example to know that how mystology fails in actual application. :)Love,Sreenadh , "chiru71" <chiru71 wrote:>> Hi Sreenadh Ji,> > Thanks for commenting on my chart. Here are the observations:> > 1. Absolutely. No maternal inheritence. Infact even paternal > inheritence is also virtually nill - just a small old house around > which lots of Jnati Baadha.> > 2. Correct to a max extent - During my 2 - 10 years i.e., Moon MD, > there are some issues over a disputed land with in my mothers' > brothers & sisters. How ever i could not ask my mother whether she > has quarelled or not. But net effect is that she has not received > any share from it. > > 3. Regarding Uttara nakshtra, i think the result do not apply in my > case as me & my mother avoid quarells.> > Pranams> Nag> > > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Nag ji,> > Yours also a horoscope with Bhanga yoga, because Mercury is > there in> > kendra of Moon in 10th from moon in Natal Lagna in Gemini.> > Moon sign in Virgo and there is no planets in Libra and Leo > and the> > 4th sign from Moon is Sagittarius and the lord of Sagittarius Ju > is in> > Scorpio. This points to the following results for you due to > Kemadruma> > (with bhanga yoga) present in your chart.> > * You many not inherit ANY maternal land property, and even if > some> > maternal property is given to you won't have the luck to enjoy the> > benefits of the same in your life.> > * Your mother had to quarrel with your maternal family members > (her> > mother/father/brothers etc) during your Moon dasa period (while > you were> > 2 to 12 years of age) - due to some reason or the other. And the> > quarrels/problems in maternal root family especially related to> > inherited land property was prevalent at that time and caused> > disturbance. (In a way it was a loss to your mother and to you as > well> > - because the inheritance was supposed to descend up to you).> > By the way Moon is in Uttara Phalguni star - a bit quarrelsome > star -> > so it indicates that you/your mother is a bit quarrelsome towards> > others, and win in such fights/quarrels. A sloka bit "Nakshatram> > uttramatum Vijaya pradam" from Ramayana comes to mind and that is > why> > this side track statement. > > Please clarify these result derivations.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > > > , "chiru71" > <chiru71@>> > wrote:> > >> > > Hi Sreenadh ji & others> > >> > > I am providing my own chart with kemadruma and i am aged 37 and> > > already passed thru the Moon MD. However it is when i am roughly > 2> > > year old to 12 year old. Hence, as some other members pointed ,> > > direct poverty is not experienced. Further, no losses for parents> > > also.> > >> > > Details:> > >> > > Male, 1971 June 30 , 06:00 AM , 81E47 , 16N59 , Indian TIme> > >> > > Gemini : Asc, Mercury,Sun> > > Cancer : ketu> > > Virgo: Moon> > > Scorpio: Jup ®> > > Capricorn: Rahu, Mars> > > Taurus: Sat , Venus> > >> > > Moon MD : 1973 - 1983> > >> > > I used JHora with Lahiri ayanamsa> > >> > > Thanks> > > Nag> > >> > >> > > , "Srenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear All,> > > > I have the following opinions regarding this yoga -> > > > * Kemadruma Yoga is DASA DEPENDENT (Thus its major effects will> > > > happen ONLY in Moon's Dasa, or Moon's Antara)> > > > * If no planet is there in 2-12 from Moon FOR SURE Kemadruma> > > yoga> > > > happens.> > > > * There is nothing called cancellation of results, but only> > > > modification. Thus if this yoga is present in horoscope and if > the> > > > Dasa matches for sure the RESULTS APPLY. It is only that the> > > results> > > > would be a bit diluted (modified) due to the presents of some> > > other> > > > yogas - i.e. so called 'banga yogas'> > > > * Moon being the SEED for results - if Kemadruma yoga is> > > present> > > > the results can be applied in a minor way through out the life > as> > > > well - but this cannot be taken seriously in prediction.> > > > * If Kemadruma yoga is present WORLDLY POVERTY (absence of> > > wealth)> > > > results and it is not about physical/mental poverty.> > > >> > > > I request the members to provide a horoscope in which Kemadruma> > > yoga> > > > is present, the Moon's vimsottari dasa period happened, but > still> > > the> > > > native was saved from poverty and suffering - if at all any > such> > > > horoscope is available.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 7, 2007 Report Share Posted December 7, 2007 currently ur runnign saturn maha dasa. After May 08 u will have improvementin ur job,and after jun 09 there will be a better improvement. u can offer ur prayers to Lord shaneeswara on saturdays. good luck, k.gopu ______________________________\ ____ Never miss a thing. Make your home page. http://www./r/hs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 8, 2007 Report Share Posted December 8, 2007 Dear Sreenadh, Vijayaraghavan & fellow Members, First I thank Vijayaraghavan for initiating this topic. Sir, I wish to post my chart here which I believe is having Kemadruma Yoga for studying purpose. Details: Male, 23-March-1965, 06:15 PM IST, 80E06, 17N14. Virgo : Ascendent Scorpio : Moon, Ketu Aquarius : Sat Pisces : Sun, Mercury, Venus Taurus : Jupiter, Rahu Leo : Mars Currently running Moon MahaDasa : 17-10-2007 to 17-10-2017 I am aged 42 and currently running Mahadasa of Moon. I know just few basics of Astrology. Sir, Since the following conditions fulfilled, I feel there exists Kemadruma Yoga in my chart and I am feeling that it is operative to some extent. a. there are no plannets in 2, 12 houses from the Moon, b. The Moon is without an association with other plannets (since shadow plannets Rahu and Ketu are not considered here). Though I can say that there is no poverty but most of my attempts for earnings endup unsuccessfully. Also is a fact that because of father only I am not feeling poverty(I am getting support from my father). With best Regards, Sreenivasa Rao. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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