Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Dear Kishore Ji, //Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc. However,the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as marriage.// I presume you are talking about Jup+Ve+Mo in 11TH of natural Kalapursha chart... aspecting 5TH.. But i have a chart of native whom i know very well from the childhood and till today..And here in this chart, Libra Lagna and 5TH (11TH of natural kalapurusha chart) is occupied by Jup+Ve+Moon his is a Love marriage and that too in the same cast but frm diff district in India..Marriage happened in a very traditional way completing all marriage rituals as per the traditions... Marriage is still surviving with daily arguments/fights btwn Mars (Husband) and Venus (Wife) if we consider " Men are from Mars and Women are from Venus " Just your above comments made me to write this actual things which i witnessed (Marriage)and have been noticing,(Fights) Regards Chandu , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Dear all, > > It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn > depresses " Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in > this statement. > > To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: > > Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit > positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - > here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, > the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as > marriage. > > Rahu in 11th gives an early job > > Mars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. > If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn > lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On > the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and > antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder > brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, > since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! > > Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will > depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two > reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger > planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. > > I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members > to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 23, 2008 Report Share Posted February 23, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear chandu ji , It so nice to see u that u are following all discussions and trying on all known charts . can u post the details of the charts with data and some of Your feed back s and observation s and events with dates ( if possible ) for the benefits of memebers . thank u in advance regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah. , "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> > Dear Kishore Ji,> > //Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in > benefit positions, can lead to one or more romances out side > your "community"- here, community denoting caste, religion, country, > language etc. However,the same combination also ensures that this > romance never fructifies as marriage.//> > I presume you are talking about Jup+Ve+Mo in 11TH of natural > Kalapursha chart... aspecting 5TH..> > But i have a chart of native whom i know very well from the childhood > and till today..And here in this chart, Libra Lagna and 5TH (11TH of > natural kalapurusha chart) is occupied by Jup+Ve+Moon> > his is a Love marriage and that too in the same cast but frm diff > district in India..Marriage happened in a very traditional way > completing all marriage rituals as per the traditions...> > Marriage is still surviving with daily arguments/fights btwn Mars > (Husband) and Venus (Wife) if we consider "Men are from Mars and > Women are from Venus"> > Just your above comments made me to write this actual things which i > witnessed (Marriage)and have been noticing,(Fights) > > Regards> > Chandu Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Dear Chanduji, I presume you are talking about Jup+Ve+Mo in 11TH of natural Kalapursha chart... aspecting 5TH..No. I am talking of the Jupiter in 11th house of the natal chart. If the lagna is say, libra, then I am talking of Jupiter being in Pisces. Of course, here the nature of the Jupiter will change from Lagna to Lagna depending upon the sign and Lordship. But the scope of the discussion is not thatI am just trying to discuss the generic nature of the planets as presented in the statement I have mentioned at the head of my post. Also, I am not talking of exclusive conjunction of Jup, Venus and Moon. Just Venus and Moon should occupy benefic positions so as to enable the native to have an affair, in the first place. Now, coming to the chart in point, the details presented by you are lagna is libra and Aquarius is occupied by Jupiter,Venus and Moon. Aquarius is the 5th house. As such, Venus in Aquarius will slow down one as a person and as a sexual being. . Jupiter being in the house of romance expanded to facilitate the love with an out of " commimnity' person but since unlike in 11th, He is not aspecting 7th house. And hence, he would not care to control the endogamous marriage. The position of LL in 5th house along with 10th lord is very good.But again, you are having conjuction of 8th Lord with 6th Lord in a not very dynamic sign afflicting the moon(mind) This will lead to some psychological problems, though nothing that can not be solved- since Aquarius is also a fixed sign. The career is connected with vayu tatwa- an immediate guess is the native might be working as a scientist or computer operator in satellite projects. regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 24, 2008 Report Share Posted February 24, 2008 Dear Sri Kishore Ji, Appreciate your feedback and some clarificatons. Indeed i was bit confused (due to my understanding) when i read your post hence my " Presumptions " Still i can't understand this.. You wrote: //No. I am talking of the Jupiter in 11th house of the natal chart. If the lagna is say, libra, then I am talking of Jupiter being in Pisces.// How can Pisces be 11H for Libra lagna? or am i not understanding what you are trying to say? And Ju in Pisces for Libra Lagna is Ju in 6TH. Pls correct me if i am wrong.. //Of course, here the nature of the Jupiter will change from Lagna to Lagna depending upon the sign and Lordship.// I agree with you since i learned/learning about this //The career is connected with vayu tatwa- an immediate guess is the native might be working as a scientist or computer operator in satellite projects.// No. He did his Deploma (Comp Science) and very weak in Computers just knows the basic operations. He is into Power related Industry i.e. UPS/Batteries... worked on large-scale UPS manufacturing Co..Now doing his own business.. May be it is evident (at least in my own observation with my limited charts and study though one astrologer confirmed as well...) that, Sat-Mars aspect in a chart can give a career in electrical/power related industry. AND also this aspect is very Good for the Native's Younger Brother(s). which makes them RICH, career etc. particulerly if the aspect is 3/9 Sa-Ma and i found it is quite true with my practical observation(s). As advised by Sri Sunil Ji and for your further insights i am providing the bith details.. DOB: 11th Feb 1975 TOB: 11:44 PM (Night) POB: Gadag, Karnataka India Once again thank you for your valuable points. Regards Chandu Now, coming to the chart in point, the details presented by you are lagna is libra and Aquarius is occupied by Jupiter,Venus and Moon. Aquarius is the 5th house. As such, Venus in Aquarius will slow down one as a person and as a sexual being. . Jupiter being in the house of romance expanded to facilitate the love with an out of " commimnity' person but since unlike in 11th, He is not aspecting 7th house. And hence, he would not care to control the endogamous marriage. The position of LL in 5th house along with 10th lord is very good.But again,you are having conjuction of 8th Lord with 6th Lord in a not very dynamic sign afflicting the moon(mind) This will lead to some psychological problems, though nothing that can not be solved- since Aquarius is also a fixed sign. The career is connected with vayu tatwa- an immediate guess is the native might be working as a scientist or computer operator in satellite projects. regards, Kishore patnaik Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 Dear Kishore, What kind of influence will happen if all said planets (Rahu, Mars, Jupiter and Saturn) are placed in the same house? I have this situation in my birthchart. These planets are in 12th house Leo, and Langa is Virgo. Sun, the lord of 12th house, is exalted in the Aries. , " kishore patnaik " <kishorepatnaik09 wrote: > > Dear all, > > It is said " Jupiter expands, Rahu accerlates, Mars excites and Saturn > depresses " Thinking of the same, I feel there is much truth involved in > this statement. > > To start with, let us look at these planets in the 11th house: > > Jupiter in 11th aspects the 5th house and with Venus and Moon in benefit > positions, can lead to one or more romances out side your " community " - > here, community denoting caste, religion, country, language etc . However, > the same combination also ensures that this romance never fructifies as > marriage. > > Rahu in 11th gives an early job > > Mars in 11th may give certain abdominal problems such as ulcers, gas etc. > If he is YK especially for Leo, he is likely to encourage the person to earn > lots of income through not very straight forward methods, if not illegal. On > the other hand, a weak Mars in 11th for Cancer, during his dasa and > antardasas, a wonderful boost to the career of, wait a minute, the elder > brother. At the same time, the income for the native will be depleted, > since Mars is the vyaya (12th lord) for the 11th house!!! > > Saturn in 11th, if he is not YK, can ensure a very late career and will > depress the income. If he is YK, his ill effects gets camouflaged for two > reasons- that he is YK on one hand and that , he is in the houses of bigger > planets than he ie Jupiter or Sun. > > I hope the group will find these comments useful and I invite the members > to discuss the effects in 11th as well as in other houses, > > regards, > > Kishore patnaik > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 25, 2008 Report Share Posted February 25, 2008 You wrote: //No. I am talking of the Jupiter in 11th house of the natal chart. If the lagna is say, libra, then I am talking of Jupiter being in Pisces.// How can Pisces be 11H for Libra lagna? or am i not understanding what you are trying to say? And Ju in Pisces for Libra Lagna is Ju in 6TH. Pls correct me if i am wrong..No My mistake absolutely No. He did his Deploma (Comp Science) and very weak in Computers just knows the basic operations. He is into Power related Industry i.e. UPS/Batteries... worked on large-scale UPS manufacturing Co..Now doing his own business... that is interesting. I said vayu tatwa since the beginning of the career is 5th which is Aquarius and then again, he must be involved in mega projects such as satellites, since Jupiter is involved. However, here it looks like he is involved with fire but at the same time the involvement of Guru is still there(bulk) as discussed. That is why we should not say anything without looking at the entire chart. This probably depended more on his Mars placement (may be connected with 10th house or aspecting 10th L ie moon) please confirm Kishore patnaik -- Love is a fruit in season at all times, and within the reach of every hand.~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 26, 2008 Report Share Posted February 26, 2008 Sri Kishore Ji, Thank you for the clarifications...Ya i do agree with you one cannot judge without looking at the entire chart... But i did mentioned about Mars position and its aspect on YK SaR sitting in 9th Actually i was and still expecting some insights from you on this:-) If you missed by any chance, here it is.. Mars is placed in 3rd (Sagg) and aspected by SaR in 9th. Regards Chandu2Chill No My mistake absolutely //No. He did his Deploma (Comp Science) and very weak in Computers just knows the basic operations. He is into Power related Industry i.e. UPS/Batteries... worked on large-scale UPS manufacturing Co..Now doing his own business...// that is interesting. I said vayu tatwa since the beginning of the career is 5th which is Aquarius and then again, he must be involved in mega projects such as satellites, since Jupiter is involved. However, here it looks like he is involved with fire but at the same time the involvement of Guru is still there(bulk) as discussed. That is why we should not say anything without looking at the entire chart. This probably depended more on his Mars placement (may be connected with 10th house or aspecting 10th L ie moon) please confirm Kishore patnaik > Love is a fruit in season at all times, > and within the reach of every hand. > ~:~ Mother Theresa ~:~ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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