Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear Krishna ji, You are right and the reference your statement is present in : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana The year 5000, reference is simply part of the fanatic hindu propogenda in an effort to port Rama to BC 3000 or 5000 (as per different groups) than accepting the fact that the currently available Ramayana is a text created around AD 150 possibly in Sunga period. When the prefixed idea of porting Rama to Vedic period or before is already present in mind, what ever the evidences mean - they would be ignored and we try looking far back!! Anyway the fact that Hindu religion was present in many parts of the world for long is true and fact supported by evidence - Indonesia, Java, Nepal, Afghanistan, Mali, Srilanka etc to name a few. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Re: RAMAYAN-------------------------OF---------------------------INDONESIYA Dear Amrit, Good to see your interest on the ancient works. I am not clear on one point. Why do you claim that this was written about 5000 years back? The web page you gave says that the work was done during the year 870, based on the Indian work done during 6th/7th century AD. Regards, KrishnaA-M-R-I-T <amritmmm wrote: Dear I am informing you about the Ramayan of Indonesiya , which had been written about 5000 years ago by devotee Kakawin. Indonesiya has very old Hindu history and all Kings of Indonesiya were Hindu. Indonesiya is country of many islands among which three are major - Bali , Sumatra & Java. In ancient India Indonesdiya was known as Swarn-Dwip. It was turned into muslim country when Arebian attacks started in 10th century , at that time many hindus were killed and many of them changed their religion. Although Indonesiya has now been turned into a muslim country , yet there is a few population is Hindu still now. In 1950 population of Hindus was 40% in Bali Island. Bali is called Bali because in Ramayan-era it was the place of Bali and Sumatra was the place of Sugreev. These were attached with main Indian land mass , but after ciontinuous movement of plates of earth some parts were dettached from India. Actually these were nearby the east of Tamilnadu. Hindus are also living in Indonesiya still now and there populatin is only 5%. All muslims of Indonesiya are changed Hindu , who were compelled to change their religion. In India also many Hindus were compelled to change their religion. A temple of lord Vishnu which is in Bali is 2700 B.C. and a temple near the sea-shore had been built by the King of Indonesiya in Dravir style in 2200 B.C. Although many temples have been changed into mosques , but name of Many cities and many words are of Sanskrit. Indonesiyan language is very much closer to Tamil. After a greaqt labour I have searched the web-page for Ramayan of Indonesiya. I am sending URL of that page , please you see this URL and tell your other friends aboput this. URL : http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana ________________ Amrit Kumar Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji, You could be correct when you say the available texts of Ramayana could have been written during early 150 AD. However, that is not a conclusive proof for Rama being from that time frame. Please note that I have little knowledge on history or timing of Rama or Krishna. I just made a remark based on your comments. Regards, KrishnaSreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Krishna ji, You are right and the reference your statement is present in : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana The year 5000, reference is simply part of the fanatic hindu propogenda in an effort to port Rama to BC 3000 or 5000 (as per different groups) than accepting the fact that the currently available Ramayana is a text created around AD 150 possibly in Sunga period. When the prefixed idea of porting Rama to Vedic period or before is already present in mind, what ever the evidences mean - they would be ignored and we try looking far back!! Anyway the fact that Hindu religion was present in many parts of the world for long is true and fact supported by evidence - Indonesia, Java, Nepal, Afghanistan, Mali, Srilanka etc to name a few. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote: Re: RAMAYAN-------------------------OF---------------------------INDONESIYA Dear Amrit, Good to see your interest on the ancient works. I am not clear on one point. Why do you claim that this was written about 5000 years back? The web page you gave says that the work was done during the year 870, based on the Indian work done during 6th/7th century AD. Regards, KrishnaA-M-R-I-T <amritmmm (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote: Dear I am informing you about the Ramayan of Indonesiya , which had been written about 5000 years ago by devotee Kakawin. Indonesiya has very old Hindu history and all Kings of Indonesiya were Hindu. Indonesiya is country of many islands among which three are major - Bali , Sumatra & Java. In ancient India Indonesdiya was known as Swarn-Dwip. It was turned into muslim country when Arebian attacks started in 10th century , at that time many hindus were killed and many of them changed their religion. Although Indonesiya has now been turned into a muslim country , yet there is a few population is Hindu still now. In 1950 population of Hindus was 40% in Bali Island. Bali is called Bali because in Ramayan-era it was the place of Bali and Sumatra was the place of Sugreev. These were attached with main Indian land mass , but after ciontinuous movement of plates of earth some parts were dettached from India. Actually these were nearby the east of Tamilnadu. Hindus are also living in Indonesiya still now and there populatin is only 5%. All muslims of Indonesiya are changed Hindu , who were compelled to change their religion. In India also many Hindus were compelled to change their religion. A temple of lord Vishnu which is in Bali is 2700 B.C. and a temple near the sea-shore had been built by the King of Indonesiya in Dravir style in 2200 B.C. Although many temples have been changed into mosques , but name of Many cities and many words are of Sanskrit. Indonesiyan language is very much closer to Tamil. After a greaqt labour I have searched the web-page for Ramayan of Indonesiya. I am sending URL of that page , please you see this URL and tell your other friends aboput this. URL : http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana ________________ Amrit Kumar Never miss a thing. Make your homepage. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Hare ramakrishna < dear krishna and sreenadh ji , Ramayana and storey of rama was there in every culture in world it seems .The oldest kings of egypt were always using Ram ( rather ramses) as their title . and there is 100s of ramayanas . Most of the versions were updated from time to time and got mixed making it difficult to ascertain the era of its origin . But i blv is its very old .Than what we blv . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah . , Krishnamurthy Seetharama <krishna_1998 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> > You could be correct when you say the available texts of Ramayana could have been written during early 150 AD. However, that is not a conclusive proof for Rama being from that time frame. Please note that I have little knowledge on history or timing of Rama or Krishna. I just made a remark based on your comments.> > Regards,> Krishna> > Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> Dear Krishna ji,> You are right and the reference your statement is present in : http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana> The year 5000, reference is simply part of the fanatic hindu propogenda in an effort to port Rama to BC 3000 or 5000 (as per different groups) than accepting the fact that the currently available Ramayana is a text created around AD 150 possibly in Sunga period.> When the prefixed idea of porting Rama to Vedic period or before is already present in mind, what ever the evidences mean - they would be ignored and we try looking far back!! Anyway the fact that Hindu religion was present in many parts of the world for long is true and fact supported by evidence - Indonesia, Java, Nepal, Afghanistan, Mali, Srilanka etc to name a few. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> > , Krishnamurthy Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> > Re: RAMAYAN-------------------------OF---------------------------INDONESIYA > > Dear Amrit,> > Good to see your interest on the ancient works. I am not clear on one point. Why do you claim that this was written about 5000 years back? The web page you gave says that the work was done during the year 870, based on the Indian work done during 6th/7th century AD.> > Regards,> Krishna> A-M-R-I-T amritmmm wrote:> Dear > I am informing you about the Ramayan of Indonesiya , which had been written about 5000 years ago by devotee Kakawin.> Indonesiya has very old Hindu history and all Kings of Indonesiya were Hindu.> Indonesiya is country of many islands among which three are major - Bali , Sumatra & Java.> In ancient India Indonesdiya was known as Swarn-Dwip.> It was turned into muslim country when Arebian attacks started in 10th century , at that time many hindus were killed and many of them changed their religion. Although Indonesiya has now been turned into a muslim country , yet there is a few population is Hindu still now.> In 1950 population of Hindus was 40% in Bali Island.> Bali is called Bali because in Ramayan-era it was the place of Bali and Sumatra was the place of Sugreev.> These were attached with main Indian land mass , but after ciontinuous movement of plates of earth some parts were dettached from India.> Actually these were nearby the east of Tamilnadu.> Hindus are also living in Indonesiya still now and there populatin is only 5%.> All muslims of Indonesiya are changed Hindu , who were compelled to change their religion.> In India also many Hindus were compelled to change their religion.> A temple of lord Vishnu which is in Bali is 2700 B.C. and a temple near the sea-shore had been built by the King of Indonesiya in Dravir style in 2200 B.C.> Although many temples have been changed into mosques , but name of Many cities and many words are of Sanskrit.> Indonesiyan language is very much closer to Tamil.> After a greaqt labour I have searched the web-page for Ramayan of Indonesiya.> I am sending URL of that page , please you see this URL and tell your other friends aboput this.> URL : > > http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana> > > ________________> Amrit Kumar > > > > > > > > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 One More thing I want to say about different Ramayans Of East Asia. There are many countries in which Ramayan is very religious book. Some Examples of these countries are now I am giving. COUOUNTRY NAME OF RAMAYAN _______________________ INDONESIYA KAKAWIN RAMAYAN _______________________ MALASIYA HEREKIT-SERIRAM _______________________ LAOS FALAN _______________________ VIETNAM RAMAYAN OF VIETNAM _______________________ KAMBODIA RAMAYAN OF KAMBODIYA _______________________ THAILAND RAM KI YAAN _______________________] SCANDNAVIA(EUROPE) RAMAYAN OF SCANDNAVIA ______________ Amrit Kumar , "sunil nair" <astro_tellerkerala wrote:>> > > > Hare ramakrishna <> > dear krishna and sreenadh ji ,> > > > Ramayana and storey of rama was there in every culture in world it> seems .The oldest kings of egypt were always using Ram ( rather ramses)> as their title .> > and there is 100s of ramayanas .> > Most of the versions were updated from time to time and got mixed making> it difficult to ascertain the era of its origin .> > But i blv is its very old .Than what we blv .> > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> >> > You could be correct when you say the available texts of Ramayana> could have been written during early 150 AD. However, that is not a> conclusive proof for Rama being from that time frame. Please note that I> have little knowledge on history or timing of Rama or Krishna. I just> made a remark based on your comments.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> >> > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > Dear Krishna ji,> > You are right and the reference your statement is present in :> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana> > The year 5000, reference is simply part of the fanatic hindu> propogenda in an effort to port Rama to BC 3000 or 5000 (as per> different groups) than accepting the fact that the currently available> Ramayana is a text created around AD 150 possibly in Sunga period.> > When the prefixed idea of porting Rama to Vedic period or before is> already present in mind, what ever the evidences mean - they would be> ignored and we try looking far back!! Anyway the fact that Hindu> religion was present in many parts of the world for long is true and> fact supported by evidence - Indonesia, Java, Nepal, Afghanistan, Mali,> Srilanka etc to name a few.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , Krishnamurthy> Seetharama krishna_1998@ wrote:> >> > Re: > RAMAYAN-------------------------OF---------------------------INDONESIYA> >> > Dear Amrit,> >> > Good to see your interest on the ancient works. I am not clear on one> point. Why do you claim that this was written about 5000 years back? The> web page you gave says that the work was done during the year 870, based> on the Indian work done during 6th/7th century AD.> >> > Regards,> > Krishna> > A-M-R-I-T amritmmm@ wrote:> > Dear> > I am informing you about the Ramayan of Indonesiya , which had been> written about 5000 years ago by devotee Kakawin.> > Indonesiya has very old Hindu history and all Kings of Indonesiya were> Hindu.> > Indonesiya is country of many islands among which three are major -> Bali , Sumatra & Java.> > In ancient India Indonesdiya was known as Swarn-Dwip.> > It was turned into muslim country when Arebian attacks started in 10th> century , at that time many hindus were killed and many of them changed> their religion. Although Indonesiya has now been turned into a muslim> country , yet there is a few population is Hindu still now.> > In 1950 population of Hindus was 40% in Bali Island.> > Bali is called Bali because in Ramayan-era it was the place of Bali> and Sumatra was the place of Sugreev.> > These were attached with main Indian land mass , but after ciontinuous> movement of plates of earth some parts were dettached from India.> > Actually these were nearby the east of Tamilnadu.> > Hindus are also living in Indonesiya still now and there populatin is> only 5%.> > All muslims of Indonesiya are changed Hindu , who were compelled to> change their religion.> > In India also many Hindus were compelled to change their religion.> > A temple of lord Vishnu which is in Bali is 2700 B.C. and a temple> near the sea-shore had been built by the King of Indonesiya in Dravir> style in 2200 B.C.> > Although many temples have been changed into mosques , but name of> Many cities and many words are of Sanskrit.> > Indonesiyan language is very much closer to Tamil.> > After a greaqt labour I have searched the web-page for Ramayan of> Indonesiya.> > I am sending URL of that page , please you see this URL and tell your> other friends aboput this.> > URL :> >> > http://id.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kakawin_Ramayana> >> >> > ________________> > Amrit Kumar> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> > > > Never miss a thing. Make your homepage.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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