Jupiter in 12th house

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Respected Pandits, I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November,

2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life? Girl’s Birth details DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973) TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs) POB: MADRAS Boy’s birth details DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971) TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs) Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU C Nagarajan sunil nair <astro_tellerkerala wrote: Hare ramakrishana . dear tatvamasi ji . No i cant digest this adage jupiter destroys and sani protect the sign or house . In this chart there is enough afflictions are there and only jup dasa has given her marriage .U see the house ,karaka ,Lord scheme and see how its afflicted or in papakartary also u can see that rahu in 4th house .And her dasa after birth dasha was 6yrs some thing mars and then rahu ( ur favrite and same rahu dont giv marriage in its

period so who is protecting and destroying houses also u can see that those who follow rahu is owner of aqua scheme again rahu dont giv family happiness --if its owner of the house ) ,may be rahu can giv delay in education or a lov failure .Then this jupiter period Has given the marriage . From moon also u can see it ,the relevent house in PKY .also see from venus the karaka in 7th house sani is debilated . so delay for marriage is there and rite dasas also has operate . regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "nameisego" <nameisego wrote:>> Friends,>

> I have a chart of a female jathaka with Guru in 12th which is Shayya > Sukha sthana. > Bhava Nasha Karo Jeeva dictum is being discussed here .> This girl got married in 37th year .She got married in June 2006.in > Guru dasa.> Guru in 12th can also result in delayed/failed marriage.> > Female> DOB...25th Nov 1970> TOB....7.45 am> POB....Bangalore> > Tatvam-Asi> > , "Sreenadh" > sreesog@ wrote:> >> > > > Dear Chandrahari ji,> > I apprecioate your view. But note that Jupiter is the lord of > 9th> > house in the natural horoscope. 9th house is considered as the > house of> > luck, and as a house providing good husband and children especially > for> > women. Being significator of male some even consider Jupiter as

> the> > natural significator of husband - even though this argument is not > wide> > spread. So the point I would suggest is the - verification of > results> > from the known horoscopes. Apart from quoting the sloka, and > pointing> > to the possibility of a natural benefic giving inauspicious > results, I> > don't had any other intention. But now I feel that we can make it a> > point of research, so that it can be confirmed or negated based on > known> > charts with the same combination.> > Note: Those who provide the charts with Jupiter in 12th, please > ensure> > that the dasa of Jupiter already happened that too after marriage in> > those horoscopes.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> > , "chandra_hari18"> >

<chandra_hari18@> wrote:> > >> > > Dear Friends,> > >> > > Quoted above is absolute nonsense. Jupiter in the 12th is> > > benevolnent for the 8th house of Mangalyam because of Jupiter's> > > beneficial full aspect on the 9th house. 12th house Jupiter is a> > > kind of antidote even for dire malefics in the 8th house. So there> > > is no question of 12th house Jupiter causing widowhood.> > >> > > chandra hari> > >> > >> > > , Kiran R> > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadhji,> > > >> > > > "Jupiter in 12th house may make a woman a widow" - This does not> > > hold good if Jupiter is in own house or exalted - and even if in> > >

12th house, it can cause widowhood only in its dasa.> > > >> > > > That is the problem today with mechanical interpretation of> > > slokas - The exceptions are usually in a sloka at the end of 2> > > succeeding chapters !!!> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Kiran> > > >> > > > Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote: Dear> > > Arjun ji,> > > > ==>> > > > > if a native has an exalted benefic planet> > > > > in su or swasthana with no negative affliction and his > mahadasa> > > is> > > > > running, the native shall get good results but if sadesathi is> > > > > running, the native does not enjoy the good results and rather> > > > > witness some negative results.> > > > <==> > > >

True. > > > > ==>> > > > > regarding the mangal dosha, the mail i wrote was only for> > > theoretical> > > > > knowledge of the members as to how the hype was made out of > it.> > > > <==> > > > I agree with you. But still would say that definitely > badly> > > placed Malefics will give inauspicious results for sure. Why> > > malefics alone, even natural benefics can give many inauspicious> > > results. For example -> > > > Ande gurur hi Vidhavam, dinakrit daridram> > > > Chandro dhana vyayakara kuladam cha rahuH> > > > (Sthri Jatakam)> > > > Meaning, if Jupiter is in 12th house the woman may become a> > > widow; if Sun is in 12th house the woman may become penniless; if> > > Moon in 12th there could be much expence; if

Rahu in 12th house > the> > > women may cause bad name for her family.> > > > Note that all these results manifest ONLY IF the dasa also> > > matches. If Jupiter in 7th in Capricorn for Cancer lagna, the > same> > > can cause death of wife/husband in its dasa. If Jupiter or Venus > is> > > in 8th from lagna for an women the chances for abortion is high. > So> > > in matching what should be considered - the position of the > malefics> > > (like Mars) alone or the specific results indicated by the various> > > (benefic and malefic) planets? This is the point one should> > > meditate upon if they are approaching astrology sincerely and> > > systematically. I agree with you to a great extend - and feel that> > > from two different perspectives, you and Sunil ji are presenting > one>

> > and the same point.> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > > , "panditarjun2004"> > > <panditarjun2004@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > > dear kiranji> > > > >> > > > > astrology in olden days even with all these 1001 principles > and> > > > > exceptions used to be a simple job for the traditionally > learnt> > > > > people but with the computer revolution making a hundred page> > > > > comprehensive astro analysis at the click of a button and each> > > page> > > > > giving an ambivalent view, the native gets confused with the> > > > > conflicting reports from each section. the astrologer has to> >

> spend> > > > > lot of time in seeing, checking, overseeing all areas and then> > > come> > > > > to a cohesive conclusion. if a native has an exalted benefic> > > planet> > > > > in su or swasthana with no negative affliction and his > mahadasa> > > is> > > > > running, the native shall get good results but if sadesathi is> > > > > running, the native does not enjoy the good results and rather> > > > > witness some negative results.> > > > >> > > > > once i could not find any reason for the various sufferings of> > > the> > > > > native and then i asked him to check whether his brother has> > > mars in> > > > > the 8th house and then he confirmed it. so sometimes even just> > > > > checking

the individual chart is not sufficient as other > charts> > > too> > > > > have vicarious impact.> > > > >> > > > > regarding the mangal dosha, the mail i wrote was only for> > > theoretical> > > > > knowledge of the members as to how the hype was made out of > it.> > > > >> > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > pandit arjun> > > > >> > > > > , Kiran R> > > > > kiran.rama@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Well said Panditji....> > > > > >> > > > > > samya will not work in all cases -> > > > > > Samya is usually done for 1, 2, 4, 7, 8, 12 houses for> > >

marriage -> > > > > logic being 7th is spouse, 8th is sustenance of marriage, 4th > is> > > > > sukha, 2nd is kutumba, 12th is pleasure and 1st is native > himself> > > > > >> > > > > > Suppose X has 2nd lord in dustana and malefic in 2nd house -> > > he is> > > > > going to have problems in earned wealth - if he marries > another> > > girl> > > > > with 2nd lord in dustana/malefic in 2nd house - both will> > > > > have "Daridrathana"> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > I think it makes sense logically for a person who has a bad> > > 2nd> > > > > house to look to marry someone with good 2nd house so that it> > > gets> > > > > cancelled - and same logic to all houses

as well> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regarding doshas, mere presence of malefic in 1,2,4,7,8,12> > > houses> > > > > does not cause papatwa - what if the house lord is in sustana?> > > There> > > > > can be benefic aspecting the house? the malefic planet dasa> > > maybe> > > > > over? the malefic maybe lord of two sustanas...etc> > > > > >> > > > > > So maybe a better idea to judge all the houses and come to> > > > > conclusion> > > > > >> > > > > > panditarjun2004 panditarjun2004@> > > > > wrote: dear friends> > > > > >> > > > > > this mangal dosha is purportedly caused by merely mars > finding> > > a> > >

> > > place in 1,2,4,7,8,12 houses (half of the houses) that too> > > seen> > > > > from> > > > > > lagna, moon and some say even from venus. some states in > india> > > do> > > > > > not reckon 2nd house and similarly some astrologers dont see> > > mars> > > > > in> > > > > > these houses from chandra and sukra to brand a native > manglik.> > > > > >> > > > > > there are more than a dozen rules where this so called > mangli> > > yoga> > > > > > gets nullified through a mangli bhang yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > no ancient classic has any yoga by this name and the genesis> > > of> > > > > this> > > > > > yoga lies in the individual

narration of how mars gives> > > results> > > > > when> > > > > > placed in the houses 1,4,7,8,12. if any astrologer reads> > > > > carefully> > > > > > the entire probable dispositions of mars in these houses in> > > > > speicific> > > > > > relation to marriage, we find only 7,8,12 house placed mars> > > giving> > > > > > some problems and not the other houses especially the> > > vaidhavya> > > > > yoga.> > > > > >> > > > > > logically kiranji's observation is valid that two wrongs > cant> > > make> > > > > a> > > > > > right. a completely blind man marrying a completely blind> > > woman> > > > > does> > > > > > not

remove their blindness and let them see the world. on a> > > > > positive> > > > > > side, if the mars placement in a male chart suggests that > the> > > man> > > > > is> > > > > > a womaniser, he would find good company in marrying a woman> > > with> > > > > > similar yoga in her chart as both are broadminded!> > > > > >> > > > > > in all matrimonial websites and advertisements mangliks> > > > > specifically> > > > > > search only for mangliks thinking that both are made for > each> > > > > other> > > > > > or both are best compatible to each other.> > > > > >> > > > > > the much hyped verse "lagne vyayecha patale jamitrech > ashtame> > > >

> kuje,> > > > > > kanya bhartru vinashaya, bharta kanya vinashakrut" does not> > > allow> > > > > a> > > > > > manglik to marry another manglik as it is internecine for > both.> > > > > >> > > > > > but two more verses appeared in modern astrology texts (not> > > > > ancient,> > > > > > not even medieval) that says as follows:> > > > > >> > > > > > kuja doshvatri deya kuja doshavate kila:> > > > > > nadista dosho na chanista dampatyo sukhavardhana.> > > > > >> > > > > > this verse says that if one manglik marries another manglik,> > > > > mangal> > > > > > does not do any evil and rather both enjoy love and > happiness.> > > > >

>> > > > > > bhauma tulyo yada bhauma, paapo va tadvasho bhavet> > > > > > udvaha subhada prokta chiraayu putra pautrada.> > > > > >> > > > > > this verse says that if a man's chart has a malefic mars and> > > if> > > > > the> > > > > > woman's chart has similar malefic mars or another malefic> > > planet> > > > > in> > > > > > equal proportion, marriage between both is auspicious.> > > > > >> > > > > > astrologers have been given so many choicest sholkas from> > > books to> > > > > > first fix a native manglik, check the dozens of mangli > bhanga> > > > > yogas> > > > > > and then find another manglik and make the marriage between> > >

both> > > > > > auspicious.> > > > > >> > > > > > with best wishes and blessings> > > > > > pandit arjun> > > > > > www.rudraksharemedy.com> > > > > >> > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > <sreesog@> wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Kiran ji,> > > > > > > > I have observed that if both male and female horoscope > has> > > > > same> > > > > > dosha> > > > > > > (e.g: Kuja dosha),> > > > > > > > then it gets cancelled.> > > > > > > I doubt that statement about your 'observation'; rather it> > > > > is

a> > > > > > > logical 'belief'; Ask Sunil ji to clarify you will get a> > > better> > > > > > picture.> > > > > > > I am not debating whether the results gets 'cancelled' or> > > not -> > > > > > that the> > > > > > > people who experienced it having the same combination will> > > > > clarify.> > > > > > > What I am stresssing is that, it is a logical 'belief';> > > rather> > > > > than> > > > > > > something 'observed' by the people.> > > > > > > Hope this helps.> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > >> > > > > > > ,

Kiran R> > > > > > > <kiran.rama@> wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Good post Sunilji,> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I have observed that if both male and female horoscope > has> > > > > same> > > > > > dosha> > > > > > > (e.g: Kuja dosha), then it gets cancelled. This is a > mystery> > > to> > > > > me> > > > > > as if> > > > > > > both have dosha both must suffer and have bad life. How > does> > > > > dosha> > > > > > get> > > > > > > cancelled if it is present in both?> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Thanks> > > > > > >

> Kiran> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > sunil nair astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > hare rama krishna ,> > > > > > > > dear grp and memebrs .> > > > > > > > This is my post long back published in another grp and > now> > > > > again> > > > > > many> > > > > > > requests happening in personal and grp mails i thought of > re> > > > > > posting it> > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > actualy sreenadhji was discussing abt it some days back> > > and i> > > > > > promised> > > > > > > him i will write and then do any modifications

required;> > > > > > > > so here is my post> > > > > > > > ==============> > > > > > > > In kerala and what i know generaly in south india we > start> > > by> > > > > > > matchting the rasi in 10 ways like rasi,rasyaadhipa(they > use> > > > > > differnet> > > > > > > than normal frndship concept),vasyam,ganam(nature like> > > > > > > godly,demonly),yoni(male /female),dinam,mahendra,stree> > > > > > > dergham(dooram),rejju and vedham these are 10 and giving> > > each> > > > > one> > > > > > mark> > > > > > > and see if there is more marks and still rejju > (ayurvedic -> > > vata> > > > > >

> ,pitta,kapha-i think)and vedha a must> > > > > > > > or u can use ashta koota methods prevalent in north .> > > > > > > > Then we go for papa samya> > > > > > > > lagana(body),2nd(family and speech),4th house (family> > > > > happiness> > > > > > and> > > > > > > sukha stan),7th house (house of marriage ) ,8th house> > > (deergha> > > > > > mangala> > > > > > > stan and maraka place and house of money of partner) and > 12> > > th> > > > > > house is> > > > > > > sayana sukha stan and house of expenditure------so there > is> > > 6> > > > > places> > > > > > > > we see any malifics are there in above said places

from> > > > > > > LAGANA,MOON(MIND) AND VENUS (INDICATOR OF MARRIAGE LIFE),> > > > > > > > some people will giv equal weightage to lagna and moon > (as> > > > > > considered> > > > > > > 2nd lagan) venus less weightage as some r of the opinion> > > that the> > > > > > > papatwa to venus cannot be remedied as a man with loose> > > morals> > > > > and> > > > > > girl> > > > > > > with equaly loose morals can not make good couples, they > see> > > 4th> > > > > > and 8th> > > > > > > matching only,Only see if too much points venus is gaining> > > esp> > > > > in> > > > > > the> > > > > > > case of girl,it may

boost immoral tendencies or deny > normal> > > > > family> > > > > > > happyness by giving separation or even illness--it depends> > > on the> > > > > > > horoscope,> > > > > > > > papatwa is considered in decressing order> > > 8/7/4/12/2/1.Most> > > > > > malefic is> > > > > > > mars(planet of aggression and sudden actions),then > sani,then> > > > > > sun,rahu> > > > > > > finaly ketu,> > > > > > > > also giv some marks like mars-4/sani-3/sun-2/rah and > ketu-> > > 1> > > > > also> > > > > > in> > > > > > > lagana-5/2nd house2/4th house-3,7th house-4/8th house-> 6/12th> > > > > house 1> >

> > > > > > Again this we hav to see exceptions ,own house> > > > > debilataion ,means> > > > > > good> > > > > > > strenght can decrees the value and planet neecha or moudya> > > > > (combust )> > > > > > > will get 100% value.Only aspect of benefics can reduce the> > > > > effects> > > > > > and> > > > > > > malifics will surely increase the effects.> > > > > > > > Main consideration while analysing----> > > > > > > > 1) Papa grahas should b some what equal position or> > > countering> > > > > > > position> > > > > > > > 2)If malefic is benefic from bhava concerned can giv> > > reduction> > > > > > > > 3)if malefic

is yoga karak again papatwa will be reduced> > > > > > > > 4)see major dasa of papas has passed and see their sub> > > period> > > > > and> > > > > > do> > > > > > > the assessments> > > > > > > > 5)If lady having widowhood in horoscope match with a> > > person> > > > > who> > > > > > has> > > > > > > two marriage or wife marana yaga( death of wife )> > > > > > > > 6)Main considerations shud b given to 7th and 8th > position> > > of> > > > > > malefics> > > > > > > > 7)Then in mans horo papa( malefics ) should b in 7th > house> > > > > > > > 8)Even if in female horoscope papas( malefics) r in 7th> > > and> >

> > > > 8th,if a> > > > > > > strong benefic in 9th then it s solved automaticaly .> > > > > > > > AS---- navame shubha samyukte sapape aste ashtamepi va> > > > > > > > pathi putra yuta nari modate natra samsaya> > > > > > > > 9)see if papa graha dasas coming immediatly after > marriage.> > > > > > > > 10)dasa santhi nirnayam> > > > > > > > see in both horoscopes same period dasa ends within 6> > > months> > > > > to> > > > > > one> > > > > > > years ends .See next dasa is maraka, or papa or weak then> > > those> > > > > > > horoscopes shud not b matched> > > > > > > > same period dasa of enemy of lagna lord is happening and> > >

see> > > > > its> > > > > > > promise in the horoscope.> > > > > > > > same period dasa of mutualy enemys like sun in and sani > in> > > > > > another or> > > > > > > rahu in one guru or venus and guru> > > > > > > > see the period of marakas in each horoscope and should > not> > > run> > > > > > > together at one time> > > > > > > > Also ones maraka dasa and anothers weak dasa of 7th > lord or> > > > > > > karaka,like papayuta,papakartari,neecha etc should not> > > happen at> > > > > > same> > > > > > > time.> > > > > > > > if malefics r in 8th house which can cause vaidhavya> > > > > >

(widowhood),see> > > > > > > the 8th lord and see in whose house he attained in > navamsa -> > > in> > > > > his> > > > > > > naisargika dasa can giv the effects.like moon within a> > > year,mars> > > > > > within> > > > > > > two year sun 50years ,guru-18th years after marriage> > > > > > > > or it can giv in dasa of malefics in 8th house> > > > > > > > then santana chinta (progency) and prosperity and yoga> > > chinta -> > > > > > like> > > > > > > this all kinds of stuff frm two horoscopes,longitivity> > > should b> > > > > > > calculated firstly before matchting> > > > > > > > then i hav see an elaborate prashna whether there

is> > > > > > daivaanukulyam> > > > > > > (wish of god ) for this union and see all kinds of > nimittas> > > and> > > > > > omens> > > > > > > > Now a days nimittas can happen only in villages and in> > > towns> > > > > its> > > > > > at> > > > > > > the discreation of astrologer to add or deduct according > to> > > his> > > > > > > experience and reasoning power .> > > > > > > > all good omens like bringings of perfumes,sandal and> > > > > > kumkum,somebody> > > > > > > is bringing mangal sutra,gold or new dress,married ladies > or> > > > > couples> > > > > > > coming,seeing of astamangala materials,some

come> > > singing,mangala> > > > > > dwani> > > > > > > like sankh(conch),bells ringing,cows> > > > > coming,elephant,royals,horses> > > > > > all> > > > > > > are considerd good.> > > > > > > > some nimittas are bad which needs special attention> > > > > > > > seeing somebody puts his finger in some hole or in> > > > > nose /seeing> > > > > > some> > > > > > > animals/birds mating --suddenly jyothishi can say not> > > > > reccommended> > > > > > for> > > > > > > matching.(actualy i find all this depends on upasana > balam (> > > > > > spiritual> > > > > > > power ) of jyothishi)> > > >

> > > >> > > > > > > > I hope it can giv some what clear idea abt matching and> > > see> > > > > its> > > > > > not a> > > > > > > Soft ware job .It needs a good calibre jyothishi and who> > > learned> > > > > a> > > > > > good> > > > > > > amnt of astro principles .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah .> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >

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Dear Sirs,

If possible give date and specific time of marriage and place.

 

Chandramouliswer Ghatti--- On Wed, 13/2/08, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan wrote:

chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan Jupiter in 12th house Date: Wednesday, 13 February, 2008, 5:07 PM

 

 

 

Respected Pandits,

 

I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and

predict the fat of her married life?

 

 

Girl’s Birth details

 

DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973)

TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs)

POB: MADRAS

 

Boy’s birth details

 

DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971)

TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs)

Place of birth : COIMBATORE , TAMIL NADU

 

C Nagarajan

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Dear Mr. Chidambaram Nagarajan ji,

I have been a strong advocate of members {any knowledgeable person}, first to use common sense logics and then only go to astrologer. In this case, possibly astrology or astrologer prevailed over reality. Did any one of the family member discuss in matching the profiles of both families in psychological terms ?? We have time & again mentioned about limitations of run of mill marriage matching in this group, which if properly done may take 2 days to do go a good job, for which any knowledgeable astrologer would charge for it. However, we are ready to play with lifes of children, but do not want to pay the services of a good astrologer.

Have you consider the desh, kaal, patra of the families during astro_analysis ?? I have many time found people fighting for Rs.1, in the slum areas, when we throw away a "sweetened" cup of tea for lack of "kadakh ness" in it {kadakh = less sugar }, at blink of eye, which is costs atleast Rs.5 today, w

I am reminded of a parable - A lady watching a " otherwise - living body" being taken to hospital for some very serious medical attention, followed by a sea of well wishers, made her to comment that that "otherwise-living body", would survive and return healthy, an astrolger {NOT from this group obviously - may be of SJC studentship- purely humor}, who was busy calculating astrologically, whether he would survive or not, was very surprised at the lady's comment, asked her reasons for such instant analysis

Obviously the lady was probably younger sister of Ms. Neelam Madam ji, {who was doing some search & re-search and is NOT into astrology then, till last 5 yrs.,} replied, so many good wishes of the people behind the "otherwise-living body", the soul will be burdened to stay back or "pulled back" into its physical cage.....!!

{Note: some real names taken alongwith fictitious characters, to put humor, ofcourse, all names taken with great respect, if anyone feel bad, I apologise to them in advance.}

Well, do not apply this theory to any political deaths like Rajiv or Benazir...who have more emotional supports rather than well wishers.....infact it would real truth to say many of them wanted them die, so that their future improves.... {so called emotional supporters}.

So, some things are answered with plain logics than super calculator called Astrology.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

, chidambaram nagarajan c_nagarajan wrote: Respected Pandits, I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life? Girl's Birth details DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973) TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs) POB: MADRAS Boy's birth details DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971) TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs) Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU C Nagarajan

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Dear Mr. Chadmbaram Nagarajan ji,

My friend and heavy weight member Mr. Sunil Nair casted the horoscopes and told me that there are many afflictions, do not know who & how the marriage matching was done......go through the few details that Mr. Sunil gave in the group in horoscope matching for beginners. There are many techniques, however, those are not for public consumptions at this moment.

We may not be discussing the horoscope for future predictions or how her FAT .....etc...for personal readings we do not encourage in this group as a policy.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan wrote:>> Respected Pandits,> > I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life?> > > Girl's Birth details> > DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973)> TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs)> POB: MADRAS> > Boy's birth details> > DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971)> TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs)> Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU> > C Nagarajan>

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Dear Sirs, Thank you very much for your kind reply. I have since furnished below the marriage details: The marriage was held at Sri Krishna Temple, Guruvayoor, Kerala on Sunday, the 6th November, 2006 and the time fixed was between 8.30 AM and 9.15;but as the main door of the deity had been closed for performance of some pooja, the Mangalya Knot was done by 9.13 AM. with kind regards C Nagarajan Ghatti Chandra Mouliswer <ghatti_chandra_mouliswer wrote: Dear Sirs, If possible give date and specific time of marriage and place. Chandramouliswer Ghatti--- On Wed, 13/2/08, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan > wrote: chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan > Jupiter in 12th house Date: Wednesday, 13 February, 2008, 5:07 PM Respected Pandits, I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one

analyze and predict the fat of her married life? Girl’s Birth details DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973) TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs) POB: MADRAS Boy’s birth details DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971) TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs) Place of birth : COIMBATORE , TAMIL NADU C

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Respect Sir, Thank you very much for ur kind and prompt reply. with kind regards C Nagarajan sreeram srinivas <sreeram64 wrote: Dear Mr. Chadmbaram Nagarajan ji, My friend and heavy weight member Mr. Sunil Nair casted the horoscopes and told me that there are many afflictions, do not know who & how the marriage matching was done......go through the few details that Mr. Sunil gave in the group in horoscope matching for beginners. There are many techniques, however, those are not for public consumptions at this moment. We may not be discussing the horoscope for future predictions or how her FAT .....etc...for personal readings we do not encourage in this group as a policy. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas , chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan wrote:>> Respected Pandits,> > I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got

debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life?> > > Girl's Birth details> > DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973)> TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs)> POB: MADRAS> > Boy's birth details> > DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971)> TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs)> Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU> > C

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Dear Sir,

I have also seen such cases where both the charts were cleared for matching by the Astrologers but subsequently,separated/divorced after marriage. What I have noticed in those charts is Muhurtha time was not properly fixed. The Houses/Bhavas 3,6,8 and 12 are called "DUSTHANAS" ( MALIFIC HOUSES) The Sumuhurth Lagnas in these four houses shall not be fixed. In one case the boys Natal Lagna was Saggitarious(Dhanus) Marriage was performed in Vrischik Lagna wich is 12 to Dhanu. The boy left for USA after marriage along with partner. Within e week she left him to his brothers house who is also in USA nearby place. This happend two years back sofar no reconciliation between the two. In another case the Natal lagnas of the boy and girl were Saggitarious and Gemini. Marriage was performed in Vrishabha(Taurus) Lagna which is 6th to Sagittarious and 12th to Gemini.A few days after marriage boys parents

sent back to her parents house saying that she is not adjusting with husband and his parents.In both the cases the reason was that marriages should be performed in FIXED house lagnas. But by selecting determental houses muhurtha has become for permanent separation. In another recent case marriage was performed in 8th house i.e.Midhuna lagna for a Vrischik lagna boy. It is more than a year now, the boy is suffering starting from high fever indigestion finally lead tol Jaundice recently he was admitted to ICU for liver treatment. These are my observations members of the group may do some research work to avoid.

 

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Chandramouliswer ghatti --- On Thu, 14/2/08, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan wrote:

chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan Re: Jupiter in 12th house Date: Thursday, 14 February, 2008, 11:58 AM

 

 

 

Respect Sir,

 

Thank you very much for ur kind and prompt reply.

 

with kind regards

 

C Nagarajansreeram srinivas <sreeram64 (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

 

 

 

Dear Mr. Chidambaram Nagarajan ji,

I have been a strong advocate of members {any knowledgeable person}, first to use common sense logics and then only go to astrologer. In this case, possibly astrology or astrologer prevailed over reality. Did any one of the family member discuss in matching the profiles of both families in psychological terms ?? We have time & again mentioned about limitations of run of mill marriage matching in this group, which if properly done may take 2 days to do go a good job, for which any knowledgeable astrologer would charge for it. However, we are ready to play with lifes of children, but do not want to pay the services of a good astrologer.

Have you consider the desh, kaal, patra of the families during astro_analysis ?? I have many time found people fighting for Rs.1, in the slum areas, when we throw away a "sweetened" cup of tea for lack of "kadakh ness" in it {kadakh = less sugar }, at blink of eye, which is costs atleast Rs.5 today, w

I am reminded of a parable - A lady watching a " otherwise - living body" being taken to hospital for some very serious medical attention, followed by a sea of well wishers, made her to comment that that "otherwise-living body", would survive and return healthy, an astrolger {NOT from this group obviously - may be of SJC studentship- purely humor}, who was busy calculating astrologically, whether he would survive or not, was very surprised at the lady's comment, asked her reasons for such instant analysis

Obviously the lady was probably younger sister of Ms. Neelam Madam ji, {who was doing some search & re-search and is NOT into astrology then, till last 5 yrs.,} replied, so many good wishes of the people behind the "otherwise-living body", the soul will be burdened to stay back or "pulled back" into its physical cage.....!!

{Note: some real names taken alongwith fictitious characters, to put humor, ofcourse, all names taken with great respect, if anyone feel bad, I apologise to them in advance.}

Well, do not apply this theory to any political deaths like Rajiv or Benazir...who have more emotional supports rather than well wishers.....infact it would real truth to say many of them wanted them die, so that their future improves.... {so called emotional supporters}.

So, some things are answered with plain logics than super calculator called Astrology.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

ancient_indian_ astrology, chidambaram nagarajan c_nagarajan@ ...> wrote: Respected Pandits, I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life? Girl's Birth details DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th Sept 1973) TOB:

05.38 PM (17.38 hrs) POB: MADRAS Boy's birth details DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971) TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs) Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU C Nagarajan

 

 

 

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Dear Sir,

I have verified both charts. In my study of such charts, i have noticed that the Lagna lords and star/Rasi lords of each other are in Malific houses of each others charts i.e.3,6,8 and 12. The lagna lord and or Rasi lord of the boy is in 3,6,8 and 12.Similarly the lagna/Rasi lord of the girl are malfic houses. In this specific case the lagna lord of the girl, Saturn is in the 6th house of the boy which is 12 th to7th of the boy and the lagna lord of the boy Mars is in the 3rd house which 12thto 4th (House of family) Kutumba sthana.These are the main afflictions there are others also. members are requested to observe other cases of failed marriages to find out correctness.These are my observations basing one some old texts.

 

Thanks and Regards

Chandramouliswer Ghatti.

--- On Thu, 14/2/08, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan wrote:

chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan Re: Jupiter in 12th house Date: Thursday, 14 February, 2008, 11:58 AM

 

 

 

Respect Sir,

 

Thank you very much for ur kind and prompt reply.

 

with kind regards

 

C Nagarajan

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Dear Mr. Chadmbaram Nagarajan ji,

My friend and heavy weight member Mr. Sunil Nair casted the horoscopes and told me that there are many afflictions, do not know who & how the marriage matching was done......go through the few details that Mr. Sunil gave in the group in horoscope matching for beginners. There are many techniques, however, those are not for public consumptions at this moment.

We may not be discussing the horoscope for future predictions or how her FAT .....etc...for personal readings we do not encourage in this group as a policy.

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

ancient_indian_ astrology, chidambaram nagarajan <c_nagarajan@ ...> wrote:>> Respected Pandits,> > I am furnishing below the birth details of a known girl, who has got debilitated; but retrograded Jupiter in the 12th house and the Jupiter happens to be the Navamsa Lagna Lord, occupying its own house i..e Pisces. Her marriage was a delayed one and she got married on 6th November, 2006. Even though, the charts were astrologically cleared, she is suffering from the day one of her marriage. Her husband, is finding fault for her each and every activity. When she was three months pregnant, i.e. by middle of June, 2007, the boy went away, citing vague reasons and even he did not care to see the new born child. Now he has filed a case for divorce. Can any one analyze and predict the fat of her married life?> > > Girl's Birth details> > DOB: 14.09.1973 (14th

Sept 1973)> TOB: 05.38 PM (17.38 hrs)> POB: MADRAS> > Boy's birth details> > DOB: 18.01.1971 (18th Jan 1971)> TOB: 02.55 AM (02.55 hrs)> Place of birth :COIMBATORE, TAMIL NADU> > C Nagarajan>

 

 

 

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Dear Sreenadhji,

 

Thank U very much for the analysis.In those days Parents used admit their children at the age of 5 years only i.e.1st class.I was considred very intllegent in studies so after 3rd class I was given double promotion and admitted in 5th class during 52-53, 1953-54passed 5th and admitted in 6th class that year i.e.during 54-55 I failed in ther 6th during that year I was sent from my native village to Hyderabad where my elderother was already doing Govt.job.So from 5th class I continued up to 10th(matriculation). After passing my Matric during 61 March I joined Govt.Organisation Public Works Dept as Clerk (boy Service) Temporary post .In those days there was a shoretage of Typists. Since I practiced Type writing after appearing Matric, I was taken to that post relaxing the minimum age of 18 years. I continued in that post up to 1966. While working I prepared for the State Public Service commission Examination for recruitment as

Clerk in Govt.Service and appeared in 1964.It took lot of time for allotment to Govt.Departments.Then I suffered for some time because I was not taken to duty wherever I was allotted. Finally I joined Education Dept in 1969 April.Subsequently I appeared for Interview in Accountant General Office for UD.Clerk post.I got selected and joined in A.G.Office on 7-7-1972 as UD.Clerk. I passed Departmental Exams. and got 1st. promotion in 2/1988 and as Gazetted Officer during July, 1992. Instead of getting the Gazetted post during 1989 I was given in 1992. That is only the bad luck. It had cumulative effect on my future service. My next promotion was given in Sept.2002 and transferred to Delhi. But I never felt any Bad luck during Jupitor anthras also.

 

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Chandramouliswer Ghatti--- On Thu, 7/2/08, neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 wrote:

neelam gupta <neelamgupta07 Re: Jupiter in 12th house Date: Thursday, 7 February, 2008, 12:47 PM

 

 

Dear Sreenadhji, Sreenisvas ji and all others,I am giving below particulars of two cases with 12th house Jupiter:Case 1: Male: 6.12.1968/4. 00 hrs/Delhi ... Tula laganCase 2: Male: 16.7.1954/6. 30 hrs/Rohtak, Haryana...cancer lagan

One has become a doctor treating patients and another has become a patient going to doctors.

The contrast is quite clear once we see the planetary positions in both the charts and role of 12th house Jupiter is also very clear. 12th house is also hospitals and hospitalisation. 6/12 axis is both diseases and doctors.

The examples are here for all of you to judge.

Regards

neelam

Case 1:

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Dear Chandramouliswer ji, I just wanted to query about one more point - * 3rd lord going to 12th from Lagna; Ke aspected by Saturn in 3rd; Mars in 3rd even though exalted is afflicted and its Navamsa going to 6th from Lagna in Pisces; Gk in 11th from Jupiter - what is it all point to? Death of a brother or disease? And the whole thing seems to have some connection wth Jupiter (since Ju is 3rd lord; Mars Navamsa is in Pisces; Gk is in 11th from Ju; 11th lord Sun is aspcted by Ju and so on) - so what is that special thing happened possibly in 1952-54 or 1989-91?

Or is it that I got it all wrong? Just simple curiosity. Based on your response we will decide whether to go into the details of results - the Jupiter in 12th in your horoscope point to. This is simply some initial thoughts.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:

Re: Jupiter in 12th house

 

 

Dear Chandramouliswer ji, Please ask some one born in Tula Lagna who actually EXPERIENCED the Jupiter Dasa - that only makes things valid. Note that, if Libra is Lagna, Jupiter Dasa running at birth time (e.g. People born in Punarvasu, Visakha, Purva Bhadrapada), and if there is a malefic in 11 or 12th from Aries (i.e. considering Natural horoscope) then most possibly the native would be handicapped - a result enhanced by lordship of Jupiter for 3rd and 6th houses!! And you say that Jupiter will not give any bad results for Libra lagna!!! Is it out of experience or just a wage statement?!! ! Jupiter in 12th, if afflicted, may enhance the above results. But for Libra lagna it may not do so, if not afflicted, since for Libra lagna Ju in 12th aspects its own house at 6th, i.e. Pisces. Please go through other charts and only then conclude - otherwise we too

will be destroying astrology - like too many people did in the past. Hope this helps.==>I have not experienced any bad results sofar.Since my star isAnuradh I have not yet experienced Jupitor Dasa. Even in dasa/anthardasa also I have not <== Good • but I have a question. What about Saturn dasa- Jupiter Antara (1952-54) in your child hood? And what about Ve/Ju (1989-91)? Loss of luck, hardships and troubles during these periods or simply lucky then too? Please confirm.

Note: You are simply lucky that you won't experience Jupiter dasa - being a person born in Anuradha. Love and regards,Sreenadh<Ghatti Chandra Mouliswer Wrote....>

 

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Dear Sirs,

My dob is 6th Feb.1945 at 23.56 Hrs.at 16N12 80E59 My Lagna is THULA. Jupitor lord of 3rd and 6th is in12th(Kanya) . I have not experienced any bad results sofar.Since my star isAnuradh I have not yet experienced Jupitor Dasa. Even in dasa/anthardasa also I have not

experienced any bad results. Other planetary positions are 1)Sun, Mars, and Mercury are in Capricorn(Makara) , Rahu and Saturn in Gemini (Midhuna),Moon in scorpio(Vrischik) ,Kethu in Sagittarious( Dhanus), Venus in Pices(Meena) and Jupitor in Kanya(Virgo) . I am running Moon Dasa now.I retired from Governement Service (Indian Audit and Accounts Service) as Senior Audit Officer on 31st July,2006. During my service I received Cash Awards and Merrit Certificats from the Department for Outstanding work performance five times (five years not contineously) .I am thankful to the members for any guidance or suggestions if any. Though I retired from service I wiling to work a strong facination to work and do service useful to the nation

 

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Chandramouliswer Ghatti

 

 

> > --- On Tue, 5/2/08, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > Sreenadh sreesog

> [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter in 12th house> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, 5 February, 2008, 6:59 PM> > > > Dear All,> I am pasting below the file prepared by Neelam Gupta ji.> ============ ========= ========= ========> > Jupiter in Twelfth House> > This is what some of the classics say:> > Bhrigu Sutras:> > The native will be poor, he will be interested in studies, will have few> children, will be proficient in mathematics but will be of loose> character. If Jupiter is associated with a benefic or is in his own sign> or sign of exaltation, the native will go to heaven after his death. If> Jupiter is associated with a malefic

the native will go to hell after> his death. He will spend money on religious causes and will have sexual> contacts with Brahmin and pregnant women.> > Brihat Jatak: The native will be a villain.> > Phaldeepika: The native will be disliked by other people. The native> will also be vulgar in his speech. He will be childless, will indulge in> sinful deeds, will be lazy and one who serves others.> > Saravali: The native will be lazy, without good speech and unfortunate> and will have a feeling of bitterness towards others, mostly in> servitude.> > Chamatkar Chintamani: The native in spite of spending on good causes> will not get any praise. He will be stupid and will incur loss of> wealth.> > Jatak Bharnam: Person is full of anger, his feelings are confused and he> is devoid of ntelligence.> > Stri Jatak: Little

gains, bad nature, disease.> > Yavan Jatak: Loses his righteousness (dharma) and makes few movements> > Horasara: It makes a person defective of limb and he will spend money on> charity and dances.> > All the texts are in agreement that Jupiter gives only inauspicious> results if situated in the 12th house.> > Other Views:> > If Jupiter is not well placed in the 12th house, it brings out the> negative qualities of Jupiter, of extravagance, of wasting money,> bragging, bad eating and drinking habits. Person is idle and jealous. He> is fond of traveling.> > If Jupiter is in own house or exalted in 12th, it is good for> spirituality and attainment of highest form of bliss.> > Apart from the above dictums: (my own views)> > The bhav-bhavesh- karak parameter is the first thing to be considred.>

Jupiter in 12th would mean:> > 1. Bhav is not considered very auspicious regarding lagan affairs.> > 2. Karak Jupiter, for whatever it stands for, has gone to dustana or 12H> which is not good across the board.> > 3. Bhavesh for 12H needs to be checked for individual charts.> > I am not expanding the above points for obvious reasons.> > Remember that 12th house is ‘vyay’ house only for> the lagan. It represents the loss of whatever lagan stands for with> respect to Jupiter. A careful judgement is needed regarding the results> for houses and jupiter’s placement and significations.> Results of other houses when Jupiter is in 12th from lagan, have to be> modified accordingly. E.g 12th house is sukhsthan for father and bhagya> sthan for mother. A benefic in this house will be good for> mother’s fortune and

father’s happiness.> Similarly it can show the karm of 3rd house, it can be indicative of> younger sibling’s profession. Such house-specific effects> can be seen differently, but in relation with lagan or the person> himself this scene of action may be distant or foreign.> > In general, following points should be kept in mind before arriving at> any conclusion:> > 1. What is the ascendant sign and its lordship. This will tell us> whether Jupiter is functional benefic or malefic and what is its> panchadha relationshio with lagan lord.> > 2. Which are the houses having Jupiter’s lordship. A> trinal/kendra lord in 12H can be inauspicious for the native. If Jupiter> is lord of 6/8/12, in 12H it can give vipreet rajyoga also. Jupiter and> mercury are the only planets which can own both kendras simultaneously.> Such a

Jupiter in 12th! Are we looking at kendras being blown away.> (These two planets also get maximum 60 points in planetary bal in> jaimini and dual rashis are supposed to be the strongest)> > 3. In which rashi Jupiter is placed (exaltation/ mooltrikon/> own/friends/ neutral/ inimical/debilitate d)? Jupiter in its own> mooltrikona sign without any affliction has given high level of> spirituality to Swami Moorkhanand (Dips into divinity by KNR).> > 4. What are the influences on jupiter in 12H. Are there any planets> conjunct with it or aspecting it or is there any exchange. E.g a person> with Jupiter conjunct sun in 12H under benefic influence will build> ashrams or temples abroad. A close conjunction of Jupiter with mars in> 12H can lead to ‘matibhram’, or going overboard> with spirituality like a person caught into the web of babas and

sadhus.> > 5. Who is the dispositor and how is it placed.> > 6. What kind of yogas are being formed with this Jupiter.> > 7. As we know that lagan is only the physical aspect of a person. We> must assess all the above from moon (disposition of mind) and sun> (important for spirituality) also.> > 8. Now we can move into finer analysis by going into navamsh and other> vargas. E.g a vargottam Jupiter will give good results in 12H.> > 9. Checking out the nakshatra of Jupiter and its lord and the relation> between them, will give further clue to the behaviour and results of the> planet.> > 10. Those of you who are well versed with Jaimini or ashtakvarga> systems, can also try to see if the above results are also indicated by> these sytems.> > This was static analysis. Now to make it dynamic or to see what

will> happen at a particular point of time, see that dasha and transit> pattern.> > ============ ========= ========= ========> Love and regards,> Sreenadh>

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Dear Sreenadhji,

Uttara Kalamruth says, without assessing the Bhava positions not to read the results. Planets may modify the results according to the Bhava they occupy. Considering this aspect my assumption is that though Jupitor is in Kanya it is in Sun star (11th Bhava lord) and according Bhava position also it occupies 11th Bhava and that is why I have not experienced any bad results.

 

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Chandramouliswer--- On Thu, 7/2/08, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

Sreenadh <sreesog Re: Jupiter in 12th house Date: Thursday, 7 February, 2008, 10:56 AM

 

 

 

Dear Chandramouliswer ji, I just wanted to query about one more point - * 3rd lord going to 12th from Lagna; Ke aspected by Saturn in 3rd; Mars in 3rd even though exalted is afflicted and its Navamsa going to 6th from Lagna in Pisces; Gk in 11th from Jupiter - what is it all point to? Death of a brother or disease? And the whole thing seems to have some connection wth Jupiter (since Ju is 3rd lord; Mars Navamsa is in Pisces; Gk is in 11th from Ju; 11th lord Sun is aspcted by Ju and so on) - so what is that special thing happened possibly in 1952-54 or 1989-91? Or is it that I got it all wrong? Just simple curiosity. Based on your response we will decide whether to go into the details of results - the Jupiter in 12th in your horoscope point to. This is simply some initial thoughts.Love and regards,Sreenadhancient_indian_ astrology, "Sreenadh" <sreesog wrote:

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Dear Chandramouliswer ji, Please ask some one born in Tula Lagna who actually EXPERIENCED the Jupiter Dasa - that only makes things valid. Note that, if Libra is Lagna, Jupiter Dasa running at birth time (e.g. People born in Punarvasu, Visakha, Purva Bhadrapada), and if there is a malefic in 11 or 12th from Aries (i.e. considering Natural horoscope) then most possibly the native would be handicapped - a result enhanced by lordship of Jupiter for 3rd and 6th houses!! And you say that Jupiter will not give any bad results for Libra lagna!!! Is it out of experience or just a wage statement?!! ! Jupiter in 12th, if afflicted, may enhance the above results. But for Libra lagna it may not do so, if not afflicted, since for Libra lagna Ju in 12th aspects its own house at 6th, i.e. Pisces. Please go through other

charts and only then conclude - otherwise we too will be destroying astrology - like too many people did in the past. Hope this helps.==>I have not experienced any bad results sofar.Since my star isAnuradh I have not yet experienced Jupitor Dasa. Even in dasa/anthardasa also I have not <== Good • but I have a question. What about Saturn dasa- Jupiter Antara (1952-54) in your child hood? And what about Ve/Ju (1989-91)? Loss of luck, hardships and troubles during these periods or simply lucky then too? Please confirm.

Note: You are simply lucky that you won't experience Jupiter dasa - being a person born in Anuradha. Love and regards,Sreenadh<Ghatti Chandra Mouliswer Wrote....>

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Dear Sirs,

My dob is 6th Feb.1945 at 23.56 Hrs.at 16N12 80E59 My Lagna is THULA. Jupitor lord of 3rd and 6th is in12th(Kanya) . I have not experienced any bad results sofar.Since my star isAnuradh I have not yet experienced Jupitor Dasa. Even in dasa/anthardasa also I have not

experienced any bad results. Other planetary positions are 1)Sun, Mars, and Mercury are in Capricorn(Makara) , Rahu and Saturn in Gemini (Midhuna),Moon in scorpio(Vrischik) ,Kethu in Sagittarious( Dhanus), Venus in Pices(Meena) and Jupitor in Kanya(Virgo) . I am running Moon Dasa now.I retired from Governement Service (Indian Audit and Accounts Service) as Senior Audit Officer on 31st July,2006. During my service I received Cash Awards and Merrit Certificats from the Department for Outstanding work performance five times (five years not contineously) .I am thankful to the members for any guidance or suggestions if any. Though I retired from service I wiling to work a strong facination to work and do service useful to the nation

 

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> > --- On Tue, 5/2/08, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> > Sreenadh sreesog [ancient_indian_ astrology] Re: Jupiter in 12th house> ancient_indian_ astrology> Tuesday, 5 February, 2008, 6:59 PM> > > > Dear All,> I am pasting below the file prepared by Neelam Gupta ji.> ============ ========= ========= ========> > Jupiter in Twelfth House> > This is what some of the classics say:> > Bhrigu Sutras:> > The native will be poor, he will be interested in studies, will have few> children, will be proficient in mathematics but will be of loose> character. If Jupiter is associated with a benefic or is in his own sign> or sign of exaltation, the native will go to heaven after his death. If> Jupiter is associated with a malefic the

native will go to hell after> his death. He will spend money on religious causes and will have sexual> contacts with Brahmin and pregnant women.> > Brihat Jatak: The native will be a villain.> > Phaldeepika: The native will be disliked by other people. The native> will also be vulgar in his speech. He will be childless, will indulge in> sinful deeds, will be lazy and one who serves others.> > Saravali: The native will be lazy, without good speech and unfortunate> and will have a feeling of bitterness towards others, mostly in> servitude.> > Chamatkar Chintamani: The native in spite of spending on good causes> will not get any praise. He will be stupid and will incur loss of> wealth.> > Jatak Bharnam: Person is full of anger, his feelings are confused and he> is devoid of ntelligence.> > Stri Jatak: Little

gains, bad nature, disease.> > Yavan Jatak: Loses his righteousness (dharma) and makes few movements> > Horasara: It makes a person defective of limb and he will spend money on> charity and dances.> > All the texts are in agreement that Jupiter gives only inauspicious> results if situated in the 12th house.> > Other Views:> > If Jupiter is not well placed in the 12th house, it brings out the> negative qualities of Jupiter, of extravagance, of wasting money,> bragging, bad eating and drinking habits. Person is idle and jealous. He> is fond of traveling.> > If Jupiter is in own house or exalted in 12th, it is good for> spirituality and attainment of highest form of bliss.> > Apart from the above dictums: (my own views)> > The bhav-bhavesh- karak parameter is the first thing to be considred.>

Jupiter in 12th would mean:> > 1. Bhav is not considered very auspicious regarding lagan affairs.> > 2. Karak Jupiter, for whatever it stands for, has gone to dustana or 12H> which is not good across the board.> > 3. Bhavesh for 12H needs to be checked for individual charts.> > I am not expanding the above points for obvious reasons.> > Remember that 12th house is ‘vyay’ house only for> the lagan. It represents the loss of whatever lagan stands for with> respect to Jupiter. A careful judgement is needed regarding the results> for houses and jupiter’s placement and significations.> Results of other houses when Jupiter is in 12th from lagan, have to be> modified accordingly. E.g 12th house is sukhsthan for father and bhagya> sthan for mother. A benefic in this house will be good for>

mother’s fortune and father’s happiness.> Similarly it can show the karm of 3rd house, it can be indicative of> younger sibling’s profession. Such house-specific effects> can be seen differently, but in relation with lagan or the person> himself this scene of action may be distant or foreign.> > In general, following points should be kept in mind before arriving at> any conclusion:> > 1. What is the ascendant sign and its lordship. This will tell us> whether Jupiter is functional benefic or malefic and what is its> panchadha relationshio with lagan lord.> > 2. Which are the houses having Jupiter’s lordship. A> trinal/kendra lord in 12H can be inauspicious for the native. If Jupiter> is lord of 6/8/12, in 12H it can give vipreet rajyoga also. Jupiter and> mercury are the only

planets which can own both kendras simultaneously.> Such a Jupiter in 12th! Are we looking at kendras being blown away.> (These two planets also get maximum 60 points in planetary bal in> jaimini and dual rashis are supposed to be the strongest)> > 3. In which rashi Jupiter is placed (exaltation/ mooltrikon/> own/friends/ neutral/ inimical/debilitate d)? Jupiter in its own> mooltrikona sign without any affliction has given high level of> spirituality to Swami Moorkhanand (Dips into divinity by KNR).> > 4. What are the influences on jupiter in 12H. Are there any planets> conjunct with it or aspecting it or is there any exchange. E.g a person> with Jupiter conjunct sun in 12H under benefic influence will build> ashrams or temples abroad. A close conjunction of Jupiter with mars in> 12H can lead to ‘matibhram’, or going

overboard> with spirituality like a person caught into the web of babas and sadhus.> > 5. Who is the dispositor and how is it placed.> > 6. What kind of yogas are being formed with this Jupiter.> > 7. As we know that lagan is only the physical aspect of a person. We> must assess all the above from moon (disposition of mind) and sun> (important for spirituality) also.> > 8. Now we can move into finer analysis by going into navamsh and other> vargas. E.g a vargottam Jupiter will give good results in 12H.> > 9. Checking out the nakshatra of Jupiter and its lord and the relation> between them, will give further clue to the behaviour and results of the> planet.> > 10. Those of you who are well versed with Jaimini or ashtakvarga> systems, can also try to see if the above results are also indicated by> these

sytems.> > This was static analysis. Now to make it dynamic or to see what will> happen at a particular point of time, see that dasha and transit> pattern.> > ============ ========= ========= ========> Love and regards,> Sreenadh>

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Hare ramakrishna ,

dear chandra mouliswar ji .

 

jup is 3rd Lord ( a mild malefic and dustana ) and 6th Lord ( a dustana ) lord in ur case and placed in 12th house another dustana .

so such cased it can giv a vipretha raja yoga effect .

But as jup in is 12th it may giv some displacement or transfers ,resulting to u may be away from family .

 

i need to read ur mail fully to get all the effects .

 

regrds sunil nair

 

om shreem maha laxmai namah .