Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 Dear Expert Astrologers, will you please put a light on the topic of astrological combinations and time - dasha- to know when a person can get green card or permanent citizenship of another country- especially in america where application of green card gets rejected quiet often 2. when a person will go back to his country permanently. 3. how to analyze a travel or profession to which country especially in modern time when a person can work in different countries- like if one is native of India- working in america- will go to UK for earning or to Singapore or Dubai or in another state of America? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 There was/were article/articles in Gujrati pachang on the importance of " progrresed" chandra in getting the green card/ visa. Some adaption by astrologers to cater to a desperate public. Wonder weather they predicted 9/11 and consequent tight visa norms.--- On Thu, 7/2/08, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: uma <brokenchimes2004 astro discussion related to abroad Date: Thursday, 7 February, 2008, 2:40 PM Dear Expert Astrologers,will you please put a light on the topic of astrological combinationsand time - dasha- to know when a person can get green card orpermanent citizenship of another country- especially in america whereapplication of green card gets rejected quiet often2. when a person will go back to his country permanently.3. how to analyze a travel or profession to which country especiallyin modern time when a person can work in different countries- like ifone is native of India- working in america- will go to UK for earningor to Singapore or Dubai or in another state of America? 5, 50, 500, 5000 - Store N number of mails in your inbox. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 7, 2008 Report Share Posted February 7, 2008 It has been found by me whenever the dasha of lord of 12th house runs concurrent with favourable transit the native visits abroad. Again, when rahu transits 12th house or when moon placed in 12th house moons dasha runs, native visits abroad. The native returns when Jupiter aspects 12th house in transit with favourable dasha. Thanx & Regards On 07/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: Dear Expert Astrologers,will you please put a light on the topic of astrological combinationsand time - dasha- to know when a person can get green card orpermanent citizenship of another country- especially in america where application of green card gets rejected quiet often2. when a person will go back to his country permanently.3. how to analyze a travel or profession to which country especiallyin modern time when a person can work in different countries- like if one is native of India- working in america- will go to UK for earningor to Singapore or Dubai or in another state of America? -- Sumit BajajContact: +91-98300-84593 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these questions to guide more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 10, 2008 Report Share Posted February 10, 2008 Dear Uma ji,The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be:Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent)Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carried over in navamsh also. (residence abroad) Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H)Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad and leaves kutumb to go overseas. If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work.If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for girls)A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important.In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12L with these connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh will take a person abroad. For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " by M.S. Mehta.Hope this will be useful.RegardsneelamOn 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these questions to guide more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Dear Neelam ji thanks for your information. but it is not the question about combinations of going abroad. it is the question about the troubles facing persons who are already abroad. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Uma ji, > > The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be: > > - Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent) > - Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carried over > in navamsh also. (residence abroad) > - Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as > it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H) > - Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad > and leaves kutumb to go overseas. > - If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work. > - If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for > girls) > - A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important. > - In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable > transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12L with these > connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh will take a person > abroad. > > For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " by M.S. > Mehta. > > Hope this will be useful. > Regards > neelam > > > On 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: > > > > kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this > > direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these > > questions to guide more > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 It is difficult to understand the nomenclature 3L, 12L could you pls explain what does it means. Regards Sandeep On Feb 12, 2008 6:29 PM, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: Dear Neelam jithanks for your information. but it is not the question aboutcombinations of going abroad. it is the question about the troublesfacing persons who are already abroad. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Uma ji,> > The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be:> > - Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent) > - Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carriedover> in navamsh also. (residence abroad)> - Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as> it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H) > - Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad> and leaves kutumb to go overseas.> - If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work.> - If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for > girls)> - A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important.> - In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable> transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12Lwith these > connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh willtake a person> abroad.> > For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " by M.S.> Mehta. > > Hope this will be useful.> Regards> neelam> > > On 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote:> >> > kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this > > direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these> > questions to guide more> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 Dear Uma ji,Perhaps I did not understand your query and gave you an information which was not desired. neelamOn 12/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: Dear Neelam ji thanks for your information. but it is not the question about combinations of going abroad. it is the question about the troubles facing persons who are already abroad. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > Dear Uma ji, > > The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be: > > - Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent) > - Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carried over > in navamsh also. (residence abroad) > - Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as > it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H) > - Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad > and leaves kutumb to go overseas. > - If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work. > - If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for > girls) > - A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important. > - In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable > transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12L with these > connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh will take a person > abroad. > > For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " by M.S. > Mehta. > > Hope this will be useful. > Regards > neelam > > > On 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: > > > > kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this > > direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these > > questions to guide more > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 12, 2008 Report Share Posted February 12, 2008 It is simply third lord or twelfth lord, if you know astrology.On 12/02/2008, s g <sg.1000 wrote: It is difficult to understand the nomenclature 3L, 12L could you pls explain what does it means. Regards Sandeep On Feb 12, 2008 6:29 PM, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: Dear Neelam jithanks for your information. but it is not the question aboutcombinations of going abroad. it is the question about the troublesfacing persons who are already abroad. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Uma ji,> > The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be:> > - Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent) > - Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carriedover> in navamsh also. (residence abroad)> - Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as> it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H) > - Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad> and leaves kutumb to go overseas.> - If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work.> - If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for > girls)> - A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important.> - In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable> transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12Lwith these > connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh willtake a person> abroad.> > For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " by M.S.> Mehta. > > Hope this will be useful.> Regards> neelam> > > On 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote:> >> > kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this > > direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for these> > questions to guide more> >> > > >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 It is the query : if a person- indian- is already residing in america and has applied for green card - then how to know from the natal chart that his green card application will be accepted or rejected. or whether he will further stay there illegal or without green card or when his green card will be approved. , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: > > It is simply third lord or twelfth lord, if you know astrology. > > On 12/02/2008, s g <sg.1000 wrote: > > > > It is difficult to understand the nomenclature 3L, 12L could you pls > > explain what does it means. > > > > Regards > > Sandeep > > On Feb 12, 2008 6:29 PM, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Neelam ji > > > thanks for your information. but it is not the question about > > > combinations of going abroad. it is the question about the troubles > > > facing persons who are already abroad. > > > > > > --- In <%40.\ com>, > > > " neelam gupta " > > > <neelamgupta07@> wrote: > > > > > > > > Dear Uma ji, > > > > > > > > The very basic rules for going abroad for long periods will be: > > > > > > > > - Affliction to 4th house/4-10 axis (rahu is an important agent) > > > > - Connection between 4H/L and 12H/L in rashi chart, being carried > > > over > > > > in navamsh also. (residence abroad) > > > > - Connection of 4/12 with 3L and 9L for journey. (3L is important as > > > > it is 12th from 4th and 9th is also 12H from 10H) > > > > - Connection of 2L is invariably there as one gets income from abroad > > > > and leaves kutumb to go overseas. > > > > - If 10H/L gets connected one goes for job/work. > > > > - If 7H/L gets connected one goes for/after marriage. (specially for > > > > girls) > > > > - A study of navamsh and chaturthamsh is important. > > > > - In suitable dasha and antar of these connections with suitable > > > > transits, a person goes abroad. More specifically dasha of 12L > > > with these > > > > connections getting confirmed in navamsh and caturthamsh will > > > take a person > > > > abroad. > > > > > > > > For further reading you may go through 'Planets and Travel Abroad " > > > by M.S. > > > > Mehta. > > > > > > > > Hope this will be useful. > > > > Regards > > > > neelam > > > > > > > > > > > > On 10/02/2008, uma <brokenchimes2004@> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > kindly throw some more light into it - if any work done in this > > > > > direction? kindly discuss some astro combinations or points for > > > these > > > > > questions to guide more > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 13, 2008 Report Share Posted February 13, 2008 Dear BrokenChimes2004 ji, If I am permitted to comment on this thread, taking few liberties, 1) kindly realize that there is NO karaka or House or combinations in astrology, for your Green Card 2) Success or Failure to get such work permits is better judged from Prashna. 3) Kindly read again what Ms. Neelam Gupta Madamji has written in her original post on going abroad and try to understand it. 4) Astrology do not have straight answers to such intelligent questions, like your green card. 5) Try to be analytical - green card results in permitting one to stay in USA, but it does NOT gurantee that you would continue to stay. I have many friends of mine {green card holders}, whose children have settled there, but they visit them only for few weeks every year to ensure continue of the Green Card. 6) Result of illegal stay can be a passport to a jail term or loss of face / humiliation in public for you may be deported if caught....{in a country like USA, it is a question of time }, see combination for Jail picnic or humiliation i.e. affliction to Lagna..etc.. 7) Leaving abroad may be a boon for a while, the native lives a lonely life later, severing ties with family members { the emotional closeness may be lost }....see the combinations through the eyes of 11H, 3H, 8H 8) If the native succumbs to the lifestyle there, then see the dharma lordship...i.e. 9H I would request you to all once again, kindly think what you are posting in the group, for every word that you post reflects on your ability to think. With regards, Sreeram , " uma " <brokenchimes2004 wrote: > > It is the query : if a person- indian- is already residing in america > and has applied for green card - then how to know from the natal chart > that his green card application will be accepted or rejected. or > whether he will further stay there illegal or without green card or > when his green card will be approved. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Srinivas ji Namaskar With humble request I am writing below to your thoughts pointwise: 1. According to my thoughts – there is every reply in astrology we have to search its karaka and planetary aspects or combination which can tell us. For green card since it is related to abroad and application to it to the government and authorities then Sun should be taken as its karaka. Further the houses involved should be the normal one which we take in the reading i.e. 12th I am not taking ninth here because it only tells your distant travel and in the related query – the person is already there – means abroad. The houses concerned with 12th H /L, Malefic planets- or lordship of nakshatra, degrees show the problems. 2. Yes, very much true. Prashna is the best tool to judge it. But it should also reflect through natal chart and I wanted to explore it through natal chart. Dasha bhukti and running transit according to natal chart should also highlight the things 3. Again, I will request that it is not the combination of going abroad but the things related to a person who is staying abroad. 4. if you astrology has no straight answers to it – so is not that we should try to find out the answers which were not given in our classics. 5. A United States Permanent Resident Card, also known as a green card, is an identification card attesting the permanent resident status of an alien in the United States of America. Green card also refers to an immigration process of becoming a permanent resident. The green card serves as a proof that its holder, a Lawful Permanent Resident (LPR), has been officially granted immigration benefits, which include permission to reside and take employment in the USA. The holder must maintain his permanent resident status, and can be removed if certain conditions of such status are not met. A green card holder can visit the country without any hassle and on the other hand the non green card holder can not enjoy this facility. He is then no American and will be treated as alien to America and is not allowed to reside and work in America. 6. It is not always that illegal persons who are staying in America will be caught by police always. There are many who are living there submissively and never been caught. So no question of humility or jail picnic. 7. I agree with you regarding this point. 8. I agree with you regarding this point also as 9 H tells traditions, thoughts and lifestyle too therefore any affliction or malefic effect[sp. Rahu- which tells about foreign impact] the native will easily absorb in foreign community and vice versa. Sir, I am here in this group to share knowledge of astrology – to go deeper into it and to discuss. I saw this group with many scholars and tried to share my views. This is one of the burning issues, which I observed and tried to find it under the light of astrology. As there are, some solid clues for other questions of life so I thought to discuss about it that new researches might contain it. As many modern astrologers are doing pioneering work in this stream. I myself has done lot of researches and unfold some of mysteries of Vedic astrology. If you think that my post is irrelevant and without any point then I feel sorry for my ignorance. In future I will take care of it. But still the mind will think about it and other questions for which the Vedic astrology cannot answer- or for which I am unaware of- because of inhibition of researches. Whereas in western – they are working a lot on the areas of common concern and surprisingly giving the replies up to the point and correctly too even though they have fewer tools than Vedic ones. They share their knowledge freely with others and keep their minds open. Here again I request that I am not favouring western astrology at all. I just wanted to convey that if Vedic has some limitations then why not Vedic astrologers try to expand it. And to understand this advancement I was here. I, here do not want to cross road of anyone, just to know and share astrological views deeply. , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Dear BrokenChimes2004 ji, > > If I am permitted to comment on this thread, taking few liberties, > > 1) kindly realize that there is NO karaka or House or combinations in > astrology, for your Green Card > > 2) Success or Failure to get such work permits is better judged from > Prashna. > > 3) Kindly read again what Ms. Neelam Gupta Madamji has written in her > original post on going abroad and try to understand it. > > 4) Astrology do not have straight answers to such intelligent questions, > like your green card. > > 5) Try to be analytical - green card results in permitting one to stay > in USA, but it does NOT gurantee that you would continue to stay. I > have many friends of mine {green card holders}, whose children have > settled there, but they visit them only for few weeks every year to > ensure continue of the Green Card. > > 6) Result of illegal stay can be a passport to a jail term or loss of > face / humiliation in public for you may be deported if caught....{in a > country like USA, it is a question of time }, see combination for Jail > picnic or humiliation i.e. affliction to Lagna..etc.. > > 7) Leaving abroad may be a boon for a while, the native lives a lonely > life later, severing ties with family members { the emotional closeness > may be lost }....see the combinations through the eyes of 11H, 3H, 8H > > 8) If the native succumbs to the lifestyle there, then see the dharma > lordship...i.e. 9H > > I would request you to all once again, kindly think what you are > posting in the group, for every word that you post reflects on your > ability to think. > > With regards, > > Sreeram > > > , " uma " > <brokenchimes2004@> wrote: > > > > It is the query : if a person- indian- is already residing in america > > and has applied for green card - then how to know from the natal chart > > that his green card application will be accepted or rejected. or > > whether he will further stay there illegal or without green card or > > when his green card will be approved. > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Namaste BrokenChimes2004 ji, 1) There is no crossings here..... 2) Opinions & view thoughts are always welcome 3) Feel free to share your researches During my early prashna days,......an intelligent query was posed....a lady aged 30 yrs, posed " when will get a blind date or a date " i.e. she did not have any boy friend till then.....seems to be a miserable state of affairs.....the query was a genuine......my head rolled....to get answers....through prasna....!!! being a european....birth data was not properly recorded. I am very much junior in age and other things.....feel comfortable with being addressed in first name....we have no gurus....or experts in this group....all students...unless some one proclaims or has some self attributed titles. With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Dear Srinivas ji namaskar Thanks a lot for your friendly gesture. it will make me feel friendly and comfortable here to discuss. , " sreeram srinivas " <sreeram64 wrote: > > > Namaste BrokenChimes2004 ji, > > 1) There is no crossings here..... > > 2) Opinions & view thoughts are always welcome > > 3) Feel free to share your researches > > During my early prashna days,......an intelligent query was posed....a > lady aged 30 yrs, posed " when will get a blind date or a date " i.e. she > did not have any boy friend till then.....seems to be a miserable state > of affairs.....the query was a genuine......my head rolled....to get > answers....through prasna....!!! being a european....birth data was not > properly recorded. > > I am very much junior in age and other things.....feel comfortable with > being addressed in first name....we have no gurus....or experts in this > group....all students...unless some one proclaims or has some self > attributed titles. > > With regards, > > Sreeram_Srinivas > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 A few days ago I had mentioned about an article in Gujrati Panchang which highlighted the importance of "progressed chandra" in the exact time of leaving for abroad. As Shri Sunil Nairji had wanted a translation, scan etc. which I could not give ( due to poor knowledge of Gujrati, complicated article with tables etc and no access to scanner ) i had given him the name and contact No of the author. Do not know if Nairji had contacted him. Please check with him. --- On Fri, 29/2/08, uma <brokenchimes2004 wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hare rama krishna dear chiranjiv mehta ji and grp . I am yet to conct that gujarathi astrologer who published the article .If any body in grp can trnslate or get it translated and upload that copy of article pls conct me or mehta ji . I am yet to find a gujarathi who can help me in this regrds so any body can help us pls come forward regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 , " sunil nair " <astro_tellerkerala wrote: > > > > > Hare rama krishna > > dear chiranjiv mehta ji and grp . > > > > I am yet to conct that gujarathi astrologer who published the article > .If any body in grp can trnslate or get it translated and upload that > copy of article pls conct me or mehta ji . > > > > I am yet to find a gujarathi who can help me in this regrds > > > > so any body can help us pls come forward > > > > regrds sunil nair > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah > hi i am gujrati so if u need some infromation regarding astrology than mail me jay gurudev Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 29, 2008 Report Share Posted February 29, 2008 Hare ramakrishna dear jignesh ji can u conct chiranjiv mehta ji out of the grp and he will giv u necessary directions i hope regrds sunil nair om shreem mahalaxmai namah , "jignesh" <jigneshmehta23 wrote:>> , "sunil nair" > astro_tellerkerala@ wrote:> >> > > > > > > > Hare rama krishna> > > > dear chiranjiv mehta ji and grp .> > > > > > > > I am yet to conct that gujarathi astrologer who published the > article> > .If any body in grp can trnslate or get it translated and upload > that> > copy of article pls conct me or mehta ji .> > > > > > > > I am yet to find a gujarathi who can help me in this regrds> > > > > > > > so any body can help us pls come forward> > > > > > > > regrds sunil nair> > > > > > > > om shreem mahalaxmai namah> >> hi i am gujrati so if u need some infromation regarding astrology > than mail me jay gurudev> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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