Direct_Retrograde_Shri Gopal Goel, a clarification

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Dear Sreenadh ji,I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. This what I follow also.Of course about the paramoch may be the one degree. Parashara takes 3 deg only as paramoch or deepest exaltation. If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. (this is just by way of an example).

Please clarify.regardsneelamOn 29/01/2008, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote:

 

 

 

 

Dear Neelam Gupta ji, Moon is exalted (Uchha) throughout the sign Tauraus, and from 2.00 to 3.00 it is the maximum degree of exaltaion (Paramocha; only 1 degree span). Moola trikona just helps us to select the important sign among the 2 signs usually ruled by the planets. Moola trikona is the original home of the planet. Please refer to: Articles%20and%20E-books/A%20Brief%20Introduction%20to%20Vedic%20Astrology.doc

Same is true for other planets as well. Note that maximum degree of exaltation is ALWAYS one degree only; and also that exaltation is ALWAYS a whole sign. This is what Rishi Horas support. Hope this helps. Note: The information you provided below is wrong.

Love and regards,Sreenadh , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote:

>> Dear Jagdish ji,> Moon is exalted in 0-3 deg in taurus and rest of taurus (3-30 deg) is its> mooltrikon.> As for mercury, 0-15 deg is its exaltation and 15-20 is mooltrikon. rest> (20-30 deg) is its own house.

> regards> neelam> > > On 29/01/2008, Jagadish Tuppad jagadishtuppad wrote:> >> > Shri Gopal Goel> >> > I Went through some of the websites about debilitation, exaltation.

> > moolatrikona> >> > I need one clarification about moolatrikona, What is the kona (degree) for> > Moon and Mercury?> >> > God Bless You> >> > Regards

> > Jagadish> >> > *Gopal Goel gkgoel1937* wrote:> >> > Dear Friends,> > Planets in debility and in enemy houses, when becomes retrograde , act in

> > strength like exalted planets , this does not mean> > that they always acts as auspicious like exalted planets.> > The degree of retrogression should always be considered.> > Regards,

> >> >> > G.K.GOEL> > Ph: 09350311433> > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > NEW DELHI-110 076> > INDIA> >> >

> > neelam gupta neelamgupta07 >

> > Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:47:08 PM> > Re: New file uploaded to> > > >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > While we're on this topic, I though its worth knowing what classics have

> > to say about retrograde planets.> > Here's a brief compilation:> > Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika:> > Whether the planet is in inimical sign, or neecha sign, if it is> > retrograde, it will give results like an exalted planet.

> > Auspicious results are obtained only if the dashanath is in own sign, or> > exalted or retrograde. On the contrary, if the dashanath is debilitated/ in> > inimical rashi/combust/ in 6,8,12 houses it gives inauspicious results.

> > If the dashanath is combust in Gochar, there are inauspicious results> > whereas it gives auspicious results if in gochar it transits own house,> > exalted sign or turns retrograde.> > Similarly Satyacharya says in Satyjatakam:

> > Whether a planet is in exaltation or in retrogration, the similar results> > should be expected.> > Varahmihir says:> > Planets are exceptionally strong when they're retrograde and samagami

> > (with moon).> > In Horasaar, Prithuyash has also talked about retrograde Jupiter. He says> > that if Jupiter is retrograde, he has full strength in all the rashis except> > Capricorn.

> > In Saravali, Kalyan Verma comments that:> > Benefics become extremely strong when retrograde and give kingdom to the> > native whereas malefics when retrograde make the native vicious and a

> > wanderer.> > Jatak Tatwa similarly says that benefic retrograde is auspicious whereas a> > malefic retrograde is inauspicious.> > In Sanket Nidhi, hint has been given on which house will get fructified by

> > the retrograde planet. If mars is retrograde, it gives results of 3rd house> > from its natal position, Jupiter will give 5th house results, Mercury> > gives results pertaining to 4th house, venus 7th house and Saturn 9thhouse.

> > Jain Granth Pakshri says that when retrograde, all planets are as strong> > as they are in their Mooltrikon signs.> > Love and regards> > Neelam> >> >> >

> >> >> > On 28 Jan 2008 14:36:46 -0000, ancient_indian_ astrology@ . com <ancient_indian_

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Dear Neelam ji,> If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Note the following points - * When we say the child is 1 years of age we don't have any doubt that it indicate time span from Zero age to 1 years. * When we say that time is going to be 3, we don't have any confusion and understand that the range is from 2.00 to 3.00 Note that this is the age old system of counting present in India, none had any confusion, when they said 3 degree they always meant from 2.00 to 3.00 ONLY. This is supported by texts, unbroken tradition (e.g. that of Prasnamarga) and is clearly logical. Doubt arises only when the continuity breaks and there is none to advice you the correct path. Hope this helps.

> Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. As per the sages, there is nothing called 'exaltation level'; 1 degree is considered as maximum exaltation degree that is all to it. Later some started considering a gradual decrease in strength from maximum exaltation point to maximum debilitation point and gradual increase from maximum debilitation point to maximum exaltation point. But this system has its own inherent problem as you can clearly see from the presence of own houses in between exaltation and debilitation degrees.> I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. I need to check that sloka; anyway BPHS is a stitched-up text; and for sure much trash along with some valuable ancient material is present in it. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. This what I follow also.> Of course about the paramoch may be the one degree. Parashara takes 3 deg> only as paramoch or deepest exaltation. If we have to take one degree, then> why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Does the exaltation level> build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. (this is just by way of an> example).> Please clarify.> regards> neelam> > On 29/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam Gupta ji,> > Moon is exalted (Uchha) throughout the sign Tauraus, and from 2.00 to> > 3.00 it is the maximum degree of exaltaion (Paramocha; only 1 degree> > span). Moola trikona just helps us to select the important sign among the 2> > signs usually ruled by the planets. Moola trikona is the original home of> > the planet. Please refer to:> > Articles%20and%20E-books/A%20Brief%20Introduction%20to%20Vedic%20Astrology.doc> > Same is true for other planets as well. Note that maximum degree of> > exaltation is ALWAYS one degree only; and also that exaltation is ALWAYS a> > whole sign. This is what Rishi Horas support. Hope this helps.> > Note: The information you provided below is wrong.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , "neelam gupta"> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jagdish ji,> > > Moon is exalted in 0-3 deg in taurus and rest of taurus (3-30 deg) is> > its> > > mooltrikon.> > > As for mercury, 0-15 deg is its exaltation and 15-20 is mooltrikon. rest> > > (20-30 deg) is its own house.> > > regards> > > neelam> > >> > >> > > On 29/01/2008, Jagadish Tuppad jagadishtuppad@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shri Gopal Goel> > > >> > > > I Went through some of the websites about debilitation, exaltation.> > > > moolatrikona> > > >> > > > I need one clarification about moolatrikona, What is the kona (degree)> > for> > > > Moon and Mercury?> > > >> > > > God Bless You> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Jagadish> > > >> > > > *Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@* wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Planets in debility and in enemy houses, when becomes retrograde , act> > in> > > > strength like exalted planets , this does not mean> > > > that they always acts as auspicious like exalted planets.> > > > The degree of retrogression should always be considered.> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > INDIA> > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:47:08 PM> > > > Re: New file uploaded to> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > While we're on this topic, I though its worth knowing what classics> > have> > > > to say about retrograde planets.> > > > Here's a brief compilation:> > > > Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika:> > > > Whether the planet is in inimical sign, or neecha sign, if it is> > > > retrograde, it will give results like an exalted planet.> > > > Auspicious results are obtained only if the dashanath is in own sign,> > or> > > > exalted or retrograde. On the contrary, if the dashanath is> > debilitated/ in> > > > inimical rashi/combust/ in 6,8,12 houses it gives inauspicious> > results.> > > > If the dashanath is combust in Gochar, there are inauspicious results> > > > whereas it gives auspicious results if in gochar it transits own> > house,> > > > exalted sign or turns retrograde.> > > > Similarly Satyacharya says in Satyjatakam:> > > > Whether a planet is in exaltation or in retrogration, the similar> > results> > > > should be expected.> > > > Varahmihir says:> > > > Planets are exceptionally strong when they're retrograde and samagami> > > > (with moon).> > > > In Horasaar, Prithuyash has also talked about retrograde Jupiter. He> > says> > > > that if Jupiter is retrograde, he has full strength in all the rashis> > except> > > > Capricorn.> > > > In Saravali, Kalyan Verma comments that:> > > > Benefics become extremely strong when retrograde and give kingdom to> > the> > > > native whereas malefics when retrograde make the native vicious and a> > > > wanderer.> > > > Jatak Tatwa similarly says that benefic retrograde is auspicious> > whereas a> > > > malefic retrograde is inauspicious.> > > > In Sanket Nidhi, hint has been given on which house will get> > fructified by> > > > the retrograde planet. If mars is retrograde, it gives results of 3rd> > house> > > > from its natal position, Jupiter will give 5th house results, Mercury> > > > gives results pertaining to 4th house, venus 7th house and Saturn> > 9thhouse.> > > > Jain Granth Pakshri says that when retrograde, all planets are as> > strong> > > > as they are in their Mooltrikon signs.> > > > Love and regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 28 Jan 2008 14:36:46 -0000, ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com <ancient_indian_> > > > astrology > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that> > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ancient_indian_> > > > > astrology> > > > > group.> > > > >> > > > > File : /Articles and E-books/Retrograde and Combustion.doc> > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40>>> > > > > Description : Retrograde and Combustion> > > > >> > > > > You can access this file at the URL:> > > > > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology> > > > > Articles% 20and%20E- books/Retrograde %20and%20Combust> > ion.doc<> > Articles%20and%20E-books/Retrograde%20and%20Combustion.doc> > >> > > > >> > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:> > > > > http://help. / l/us// groups/original/ members/web/> > > > > index.htmlfiles<> > http://help./l/us//groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles> > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40>>> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------> > > > Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one> > roof. 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Dear Friends,

Sloka 50 and 51 0f BPHS Ch-3 gives different but clear massage.

Sloka 50 says .Aries,Taurus ,Capricorn, Virgo,Cancer,Pisces and Libra are the signs of exaltation of planets Sun to Saturn in

consecutive order.The full sign is considered as sign of exaltation and used for predictive purposes as such,

Sloka 51 indicates PARAM -Ucha degrees of planets in exaltation signs,This information is used to find out Ucha Bala etc

and has no conflict with the dictum given in Sloka 50.

Sloka 52,53, 54 and 55 indicate different information,

For example Sign Leo is both own and Mooltrikona sign of Sun.If Sun is placed upto 20 deg. in Leo , it will be give the results as if placed in Mooltrikona and there after

as if placed in own sign.Similarly , it is considered in other cases.

Planet in exaltation gives full benafic results but controlled by the placement of its depositor.In Mooltrikona portion it gives 75% auspicious results.

In own sign portion only 50 % results.But when planet is in its Mooltrikona or own sign , it gives results in harmony of significations of house and its own signification..

On the other hand if planet is in exaltation it generate resource for house predominantly according to its own signification.

The information given in these slokas is basic and used in various ways according to rules specified in relevant contexts for predicting purposes,

Regards, G.K.GOELPh: 09350311433Add: L-409, SARITA VIHARNEW DELHI-110 076INDIA

Sreenadh <sreesog Sent: Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 4:39:53 PM Re: Direct_Retrograde_Shri Gopal Goel, a clarification

 

Dear Neelam ji,> If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Note the following points - * When we say the child is 1 years of age we don't have any doubt that it indicate time span from Zero age to 1 years. * When we say that time is going to be 3, we don't have any confusion and understand that the range is from 2.00 to 3.00 Note that this is the age old system of counting present in India, none had any confusion, when they said 3 degree they always meant from 2.00 to 3.00 ONLY. This is supported by texts, unbroken tradition (e.g. that of Prasnamarga) and is clearly logical. Doubt arises only when the continuity breaks and there is none to advice you the correct path. Hope this helps.

> Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. As per the sages, there is nothing called 'exaltation level'; 1 degree is considered as maximum exaltation degree that is all to it. Later some started considering a gradual decrease in strength from maximum exaltation point to maximum debilitation point and gradual increase from maximum debilitation point to maximum exaltation point. But this system has its own inherent problem as you can clearly see from the presence of own houses in between exaltation and debilitation degrees.> I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. I need to check that sloka; anyway BPHS is a stitched-up text; and for sure much trash along with some valuable ancient material is present in it. Love and regards,Sreenadh---

In ancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. This what I follow also.> Of course about the paramoch may be the one degree. Parashara takes 3 deg> only as paramoch or deepest exaltation. If we have to take one degree, then> why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Does the exaltation level> build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. (this is just by way of an> example).> Please clarify.> regards> neelam> > On 29/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam Gupta ji,> > Moon is exalted (Uchha) throughout the sign Tauraus, and from 2.00 to> > 3.00 it is the maximum degree of exaltaion (Paramocha; only 1 degree> > span). Moola trikona just helps us to select the important sign among

the 2> > signs usually ruled by the planets. Moola trikona is the original home of> > the planet. Please refer to:> > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology Articles% 20and%20E- books/A%20Brief% 20Introduction% 20to%20Vedic% 20Astrology. doc> > Same is true for other planets as well. Note that maximum degree of> > exaltation is ALWAYS one degree only; and also that exaltation is ALWAYS a> > whole sign. This is what Rishi Horas support. Hope this helps.> > Note: The information you provided below is wrong.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > ancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta"> > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jagdish ji,> > > Moon is exalted in 0-3 deg in taurus and rest of taurus (3-30 deg) is> > its> > >

mooltrikon.> > > As for mercury, 0-15 deg is its exaltation and 15-20 is mooltrikon. rest> > > (20-30 deg) is its own house.> > > regards> > > neelam> > >> > >> > > On 29/01/2008, Jagadish Tuppad jagadishtuppad@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shri Gopal Goel> > > >> > > > I Went through some of the websites about debilitation, exaltation.> > > > moolatrikona> > > >> > > > I need one clarification about moolatrikona, What is the kona (degree)> > for> > > > Moon and Mercury?> > > >> > > > God Bless You> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Jagadish> > > >> > > > *Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@* wrote:> > > >> > > >

Dear Friends,> > > > Planets in debility and in enemy houses, when becomes retrograde , act> > in> > > > strength like exalted planets , this does not mean> > > > that they always acts as auspicious like exalted planets.> > > > The degree of retrogression should always be considered.> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > >> > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > INDIA> > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:47:08 PM> > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] New file

uploaded to> > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > While we're on this topic, I though its worth knowing what classics> > have> > > > to say about retrograde planets.> > > > Here's a brief compilation:> > > > Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika:> > > > Whether the planet is in inimical sign, or neecha sign, if it is> > > > retrograde, it will give results like an exalted planet.> > > > Auspicious results are obtained only if the dashanath is in own sign,> > or> > > > exalted or retrograde. On the contrary, if the dashanath is> > debilitated/ in> > > > inimical rashi/combust/ in 6,8,12 houses it gives inauspicious> > results.> > > > If the dashanath is combust in Gochar, there are

inauspicious results> > > > whereas it gives auspicious results if in gochar it transits own> > house,> > > > exalted sign or turns retrograde.> > > > Similarly Satyacharya says in Satyjatakam:> > > > Whether a planet is in exaltation or in retrogration, the similar> > results> > > > should be expected.> > > > Varahmihir says:> > > > Planets are exceptionally strong when they're retrograde and samagami> > > > (with moon).> > > > In Horasaar, Prithuyash has also talked about retrograde Jupiter. He> > says> > > > that if Jupiter is retrograde, he has full strength in all the rashis> > except> > > > Capricorn.> > > > In Saravali, Kalyan Verma comments that:> > > > Benefics become extremely strong when retrograde

and give kingdom to> > the> > > > native whereas malefics when retrograde make the native vicious and a> > > > wanderer.> > > > Jatak Tatwa similarly says that benefic retrograde is auspicious> > whereas a> > > > malefic retrograde is inauspicious.> > > > In Sanket Nidhi, hint has been given on which house will get> > fructified by> > > > the retrograde planet. If mars is retrograde, it gives results of 3rd> > house> > > > from its natal position, Jupiter will give 5th house results, Mercury> > > > gives results pertaining to 4th house, venus 7th house and Saturn> > 9thhouse.> > > > Jain Granth Pakshri says that when retrograde, all planets are as> > strong> > > > as they are in their Mooltrikon signs.> > > > Love and

regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > On 28 Jan 2008 14:36:46 -0000, ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > comancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_> > > > astrology ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that> > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ancient_indian_> > > > > astrology> > > > > group.> > > > >> > > > > File : /Articles and E-books/Retrograde and Combustion.doc> > > > >

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Dear Goal ji, Thanks for the info. Love and regards,Sreenadh , Gopal Goel <gkgoel1937 wrote:>> Dear Friends,> Sloka 50 and 51 0f BPHS Ch-3 gives different but clear massage.> Sloka 50 says .Aries,Taurus ,Capricorn, Virgo,Cancer,Pisces and Libra are the signs of exaltation of planets Sun to Saturn in> consecutive order.The full sign is considered as sign of exaltation and used for predictive purposes as such,> Sloka 51 indicates PARAM -Ucha degrees of planets in exaltation signs,This information is used to find out Ucha Bala etc > and has no conflict with the dictum given in Sloka 50.> Sloka 52,53, 54 and 55 indicate different information,> For example Sign Leo is both own and Mooltrikona sign of Sun.If Sun is placed upto 20 deg. in Leo , it will be give the results as if placed in Mooltrikona and there after > as if placed in own sign.Similarly , it is considered in other cases.> Planet in exaltation gives full benafic results but controlled by the placement of its depositor.In Mooltrikona portion it gives 75% auspicious results.> In own sign portion only 50 % results.But when planet is in its Mooltrikona or own sign , it gives results in harmony of significations of house and its own signification..> On the other hand if planet is in exaltation it generate resource for house predominantly according to its own signification.> The information given in these slokas is basic and used in various ways according to rules specified in relevant contexts for predicting purposes,> Regards,> > G.K.GOEL> Ph: 09350311433> Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> NEW DELHI-110 076> INDIA > > > > > Sreenadh sreesog > Tuesday, 29 January, 2008 4:39:53 PM> Re: Direct_Retrograde_Shri Gopal Goel, a clarification> > > Dear Neelam ji,> > If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. > Note the following points -> * When we say the child is 1 years of age we don't have any doubt that it indicate time span from Zero age to 1 years. > * When we say that time is going to be 3, we don't have any confusion and understand that the range is from 2.00 to 3.00 > Note that this is the age old system of counting present in India, none had any confusion, when they said 3 degree they always meant from 2.00 to 3.00 ONLY. This is supported by texts, unbroken tradition (e.g. that of Prasnamarga) and is clearly logical. Doubt arises only when the continuity breaks and there is none to advice you the correct path. Hope this helps. > > Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree.> As per the sages, there is nothing called 'exaltation level'; 1 degree is considered as maximum exaltation degree that is all to it. Later some started considering a gradual decrease in strength from maximum exaltation point to maximum debilitation point and gradual increase from maximum debilitation point to maximum exaltation point. But this system has its own inherent problem as you can clearly see from the presence of own houses in between exaltation and debilitation degrees.> > > I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. > I need to check that sloka; anyway BPHS is a stitched-up text; and for sure much trash along with some valuable ancient material is present in it. > Love and regards,> Sreenadh> ancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07@ ...> wrote:> >> > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. This what I follow also.> > Of course about the paramoch may be the one degree. Parashara takes 3 deg> > only as paramoch or deepest exaltation. If we have to take one degree, then> > why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Does the exaltation level> > build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. (this is just by way of an> > example).> > Please clarify.> > regards> > neelam> > > > On 29/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Neelam Gupta ji,> > > Moon is exalted (Uchha) throughout the sign Tauraus, and from 2.00 to> > > 3.00 it is the maximum degree of exaltaion (Paramocha; only 1 degree> > > span). Moola trikona just helps us to select the important sign among the 2> > > signs usually ruled by the planets. Moola trikona is the original home of> > > the planet. Please refer to:> > > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology Articles% 20and%20E- books/A%20Brief% 20Introduction% 20to%20Vedic% 20Astrology. doc> > > Same is true for other planets as well. Note that maximum degree of> > > exaltation is ALWAYS one degree only; and also that exaltation is ALWAYS a> > > whole sign. This is what Rishi Horas support. Hope this helps.> > > Note: The information you provided below is wrong.> > > Love and regards,> > > Sreenadh> > >> > > ancient_indian_ astrology, "neelam gupta"> > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Dear Jagdish ji,> > > > Moon is exalted in 0-3 deg in taurus and rest of taurus (3-30 deg) is> > > its> > > > mooltrikon.> > > > As for mercury, 0-15 deg is its exaltation and 15-20 is mooltrikon. rest> > > > (20-30 deg) is its own house.> > > > regards> > > > neelam> > > >> > > >> > > > On 29/01/2008, Jagadish Tuppad jagadishtuppad@ wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Shri Gopal Goel> > > > >> > > > > I Went through some of the websites about debilitation, exaltation.> > > > > moolatrikona> > > > >> > > > > I need one clarification about moolatrikona, What is the kona (degree)> > > for> > > > > Moon and Mercury?> > > > >> > > > > God Bless You> > > > >> > > > > Regards> > > > > Jagadish> > > > >> > > > > *Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@* wrote:> > > > >> > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > > Planets in debility and in enemy houses, when becomes retrograde , act> > > in> > > > > strength like exalted planets , this does not mean> > > > > that they always acts as auspicious like exalted planets.> > > > > The degree of retrogression should always be considered.> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > > INDIA> > > > >> > > > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:47:08 PM> > > > > Re: [ancient_indian_ astrology] New file uploaded to> > > > > ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > >> > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > > While we're on this topic, I though its worth knowing what classics> > > have> > > > > to say about retrograde planets.> > > > > Here's a brief compilation:> > > > > Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika:> > > > > Whether the planet is in inimical sign, or neecha sign, if it is> > > > > retrograde, it will give results like an exalted planet.> > > > > Auspicious results are obtained only if the dashanath is in own sign,> > > or> > > > > exalted or retrograde. On the contrary, if the dashanath is> > > debilitated/ in> > > > > inimical rashi/combust/ in 6,8,12 houses it gives inauspicious> > > results.> > > > > If the dashanath is combust in Gochar, there are inauspicious results> > > > > whereas it gives auspicious results if in gochar it transits own> > > house,> > > > > exalted sign or turns retrograde.> > > > > Similarly Satyacharya says in Satyjatakam:> > > > > Whether a planet is in exaltation or in retrogration, the similar> > > results> > > > > should be expected.> > > > > Varahmihir says:> > > > > Planets are exceptionally strong when they're retrograde and samagami> > > > > (with moon).> > > > > In Horasaar, Prithuyash has also talked about retrograde Jupiter. He> > > says> > > > > that if Jupiter is retrograde, he has full strength in all the rashis> > > except> > > > > Capricorn.> > > > > In Saravali, Kalyan Verma comments that:> > > > > Benefics become extremely strong when retrograde and give kingdom to> > > the> > > > > native whereas malefics when retrograde make the native vicious and a> > > > > wanderer.> > > > > Jatak Tatwa similarly says that benefic retrograde is auspicious> > > whereas a> > > > > malefic retrograde is inauspicious.> > > > > In Sanket Nidhi, hint has been given on which house will get> > > fructified by> > > > > the retrograde planet. If mars is retrograde, it gives results of 3rd> > > house> > > > > from its natal position, Jupiter will give 5th house results, Mercury> > > > > gives results pertaining to 4th house, venus 7th house and Saturn> > > 9thhouse.> > > > > Jain Granth Pakshri says that when retrograde, all planets are as> > > strong> > > > > as they are in their Mooltrikon signs.> > > > > Love and regards> > > > > Neelam> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > On 28 Jan 2008 14:36:46 -0000, ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > > comancient_indian_ astrology<ancient_indian_> > > > > astrology ancient_indian_ astrology> > > > > wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Hello,> > > > > >> > > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that> > > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ancient_indian_> > > > > > astrology> > > > > > group.> > > > > >> > > > > > File : /Articles and E-books/Retrograde and Combustion.doc> > > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40. com>>> > > > > > Description : Retrograde and Combustion> > > > > >> > > > > > You can access this file at the URL:> > > > > > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology> > > > > > Articles% 20and%20E- books/Retrograde %20and%20Combust> > > ion.doc<> > > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology Articles% 20and%20E- books/Retrograde %20and%20Combust ion.doc> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:> > > > > > http://help. / l/us// groups/original/ members/web/> > > > > > index.htmlfiles<> > > http://help. / l/us// groups/original/ members/web/ index.htmlfiles> > > >> > > > > >> > > > > > Regards,> > > > > >> > > > > > sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40. com>>> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > ------------ --------- ---------> > > > > Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one> > > roof. 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