Guest guest Posted January 27, 2008 Report Share Posted January 27, 2008 Dear Members, There seems to be considerable interest on direct, retrograde...etc.. This tickles me to ask the following : - a) Duration of Direct & Retrogration of a planet b) Can logically explain Mars taking too much time in a sign i.e. 5-6 months approx. {recent case 2007-2008 period} c) Similarly for Venus, why Point No. (b) is not happening when their orbits are equally similar ?? d) Different intelligent astro_software mention Saturn Combust, can someone who has combust Saturn speak about its period & effects ?? e) Why there are generally NO good muhurats {amrit siddi yogas for major events like marriages } during the Feb-April-Mid May, then again a break and fully blown marriage season..... { pure astrology....} With regards, Sreeram_Srinivas Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2008 Report Share Posted January 28, 2008 Dear Srinivas ji,> a) Duration of Direct & Retrogration of a planet * Mercury remains in retrogration for 22-23 days. Mercury usually turns retro three times a year. * Venus remains in retrograde for 2.5 months approx. Venus retro happens every eighteen months or so. * Mars retrogrades for 72 days every 25.6 months. i.e. Mars turns retro only once every two years. * Jupiter for 121 days every 13.1 months. i.e. for about 4 months in an year. * Saturn for 138 days every 12.4 months. i.e. for about 4.5 months every year. * Uranus for 151 days every 12.15 months. i.e. for about 5 months every year. * Neptune for 158 days every 12.07 months. i.e. for about 5 months every year.Also note the following points -* The inner planets such as Mercury and Venus apprear to be in retrograde because they moves around sun and moves faster than earth. * The outer planets such as Mars, Jupiter, Saturn appear to be in retrograde because they moves slower than earth or in other words earth moves faster than them and thus the apparent feeling of retrograde motion. About combustion - * Combustion (too much degree wise proximity of planets with sun) can happen both 1) when the planet is in direct motion and 2) when the planet is in retrograde motion. Or in short combution has nothing to do with retrograde - both are seperate things. Some tools and emulators to see planets in retrograde: 1) http://www.mhhe.com/physsci/astronomy/applets/Retro/frame.html 2) http://www.astro.ubc.ca/~scharein/a310/SolSysEx/retro/Retrograde.html 3) http://www.astro.uiuc.edu/projects/data/Retrograde/Some Useful info on Retrograde planets 1) http://www.astrologycom.com/retro.html 2) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Retrograde_and_direct_motionLove and regards,.Sreenadh , "sreeram srinivas" <sreeram64 wrote:>> > Dear Members,> > There seems to be considerable interest on direct, retrograde...etc.. > This tickles me to ask the following : -> > a) Duration of Direct & Retrogration of a planet> > b) Can logically explain Mars taking too much time in a sign i.e. 5-6> months approx. {recent case 2007-2008 period}> > c) Similarly for Venus, why Point No. (b) is not happening when their> orbits are equally similar ??> > d) Different intelligent astro_software mention Saturn Combust, can> someone who has combust Saturn speak about its period & effects ??> > e) Why there are generally NO good muhurats {amrit siddi yogas for major> events like marriages } during the Feb-April-Mid May, then again a break> and fully blown marriage season..... { pure astrology....}> > With regards,> > Sreeram_Srinivas> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Dear Sreenadh ji,Many thanks for always guiding us to the correct path. Have you come accross any comparable charts, one having a particular planet at paramoch degree and another in just exaltation sign. Can we observe some differences related to these planetary positions. I understand its not so simple. Just in case.... Shall be grateful if you could share that. warm regardsNeelamOn 29/01/2008, Sreenadh <sreesog wrote: Dear Neelam ji,> If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Note the following points - * When we say the child is 1 years of age we don't have any doubt that it indicate time span from Zero age to 1 years. * When we say that time is going to be 3, we don't have any confusion and understand that the range is from 2.00 to 3.00 Note that this is the age old system of counting present in India, none had any confusion, when they said 3 degree they always meant from 2.00 to 3.00 ONLY. This is supported by texts, unbroken tradition (e.g. that of Prasnamarga) and is clearly logical. Doubt arises only when the continuity breaks and there is none to advice you the correct path. Hope this helps. > Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. As per the sages, there is nothing called 'exaltation level'; 1 degree is considered as maximum exaltation degree that is all to it. Later some started considering a gradual decrease in strength from maximum exaltation point to maximum debilitation point and gradual increase from maximum debilitation point to maximum exaltation point. But this system has its own inherent problem as you can clearly see from the presence of own houses in between exaltation and debilitation degrees. > I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. I need to check that sloka; anyway BPHS is a stitched-up text; and for sure much trash along with some valuable ancient material is present in it. Love and regards,Sreenadh , " neelam gupta " <neelamgupta07 wrote: >> Dear Sreenadh ji,> I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54. This what I follow also.> Of course about the paramoch may be the one degree. Parashara takes 3 deg > only as paramoch or deepest exaltation. If we have to take one degree, then> why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4 degrees. Does the exaltation level> build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree. (this is just by way of an > example).> Please clarify.> regards> neelam> > On 29/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Neelam Gupta ji, > > Moon is exalted (Uchha) throughout the sign Tauraus, and from 2.00 to> > 3.00 it is the maximum degree of exaltaion (Paramocha; only 1 degree> > span). Moola trikona just helps us to select the important sign among the 2 > > signs usually ruled by the planets. Moola trikona is the original home of> > the planet. Please refer to:> > Articles%20and%20E-books/A%20Brief%20Introduction%20to%20Vedic%20Astrology.doc > > Same is true for other planets as well. Note that maximum degree of> > exaltation is ALWAYS one degree only; and also that exaltation is ALWAYS a> > whole sign. This is what Rishi Horas support. Hope this helps. > > Note: The information you provided below is wrong.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> > , " neelam gupta " > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > >> > > Dear Jagdish ji,> > > Moon is exalted in 0-3 deg in taurus and rest of taurus (3-30 deg) is> > its> > > mooltrikon. > > > As for mercury, 0-15 deg is its exaltation and 15-20 is mooltrikon. rest> > > (20-30 deg) is its own house.> > > regards> > > neelam> > >> > > > > > On 29/01/2008, Jagadish Tuppad jagadishtuppad@ wrote:> > > >> > > > Shri Gopal Goel> > > >> > > > I Went through some of the websites about debilitation, exaltation. > > > > moolatrikona> > > >> > > > I need one clarification about moolatrikona, What is the kona (degree)> > for> > > > Moon and Mercury?> > > > > > > > God Bless You> > > >> > > > Regards> > > > Jagadish> > > >> > > > *Gopal Goel gkgoel1937@* wrote:> > > > > > > > Dear Friends,> > > > Planets in debility and in enemy houses, when becomes retrograde , act> > in> > > > strength like exalted planets , this does not mean > > > > that they always acts as auspicious like exalted planets.> > > > The degree of retrogression should always be considered.> > > > Regards,> > > >> > > > > > > > G.K.GOEL> > > > Ph: 09350311433> > > > Add: L-409, SARITA VIHAR> > > > NEW DELHI-110 076> > > > INDIA> > > >> > > > > > > > neelam gupta neelamgupta07@> > > > > > > > Monday, 28 January, 2008 9:47:08 PM> > > > Re: New file uploaded to> > > > > > > >> > > > Dear Sreenadh ji, > > > > While we're on this topic, I though its worth knowing what classics> > have> > > > to say about retrograde planets.> > > > Here's a brief compilation: > > > > Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika:> > > > Whether the planet is in inimical sign, or neecha sign, if it is> > > > retrograde, it will give results like an exalted planet. > > > > Auspicious results are obtained only if the dashanath is in own sign,> > or> > > > exalted or retrograde. On the contrary, if the dashanath is> > debilitated/ in > > > > inimical rashi/combust/ in 6,8,12 houses it gives inauspicious> > results.> > > > If the dashanath is combust in Gochar, there are inauspicious results> > > > whereas it gives auspicious results if in gochar it transits own > > house,> > > > exalted sign or turns retrograde.> > > > Similarly Satyacharya says in Satyjatakam:> > > > Whether a planet is in exaltation or in retrogration, the similar > > results> > > > should be expected.> > > > Varahmihir says:> > > > Planets are exceptionally strong when they're retrograde and samagami> > > > (with moon). > > > > In Horasaar, Prithuyash has also talked about retrograde Jupiter. He> > says> > > > that if Jupiter is retrograde, he has full strength in all the rashis> > except > > > > Capricorn.> > > > In Saravali, Kalyan Verma comments that:> > > > Benefics become extremely strong when retrograde and give kingdom to> > the> > > > native whereas malefics when retrograde make the native vicious and a > > > > wanderer.> > > > Jatak Tatwa similarly says that benefic retrograde is auspicious> > whereas a> > > > malefic retrograde is inauspicious.> > > > In Sanket Nidhi, hint has been given on which house will get > > fructified by> > > > the retrograde planet. If mars is retrograde, it gives results of 3rd> > house> > > > from its natal position, Jupiter will give 5th house results, Mercury > > > > gives results pertaining to 4th house, venus 7th house and Saturn> > 9thhouse.> > > > Jain Granth Pakshri says that when retrograde, all planets are as> > strong > > > > as they are in their Mooltrikon signs.> > > > Love and regards> > > > Neelam> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > On 28 Jan 2008 14:36:46 -0000, ancient_indian_ astrology@ .> > com <ancient_indian_ > > > > astrology > > > > wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Hello,> > > > >> > > > > This email message is a notification to let you know that > > > > > a file has been uploaded to the Files area of the ancient_indian_> > > > > astrology> > > > > group.> > > > >> > > > > File : /Articles and E-books/Retrograde and Combustion.doc > > > > > Uploaded by : sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40>>> > > > > Description : Retrograde and Combustion> > > > >> > > > > You can access this file at the URL: > > > > > http://groups. / group/ancient_ indian_astrology > > > > > Articles% 20and%20E- books/Retrograde %20and%20Combust> > ion.doc<> > Articles%20and%20E-books/Retrograde%20and%20Combustion.doc > > >> > > > >> > > > > To learn more about file sharing for your group, please visit:> > > > > http://help. / l/us// groups/original/ members/web/ > > > > > index.htmlfiles<> > http://help./l/us//groups/original/members/web/index.htmlfiles > > >> > > > >> > > > > Regards,> > > > >> > > > > sreesog sreesog <sreesog%40>>> > > > > > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > > ------------------------------> > > > Share files, take polls, and discuss your passions - all under one > > roof. 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Guest guest Posted January 29, 2008 Report Share Posted January 29, 2008 Dear Neelam ji,==>> Have you come accross any comparable charts, one having a particular planet> at paramoch degree and another in just exaltation sign. Can we observe some> differences related to these planetary positions. <== If a planet is in it degree of Maximum exaltation and if the Dasa of that planet comes if should for SURE give Rajayoga as per Skanda hora (and a planet in deep debilitation for sure causes a Daridrya yoga provided the dasa matches) - I don't doubt this text. But if not Rajayoga effects may not manifest. I haven't noticed sample charts to verify the same - but being a group with more than 1800 members we can expect that someone should provide us with a chart that would help us to verify the same. Love and regards,Sreenadh , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Sreenadh ji,> Many thanks for always guiding us to the correct path.> Have you come accross any comparable charts, one having a particular planet> at paramoch degree and another in just exaltation sign. Can we observe some> differences related to these planetary positions. I understand its not so> simple. Just in case.... Shall be grateful if you could share that.> warm regards> Neelam> > > > On 29/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> >> >> > Dear Neelam ji,> > > If we have to take one degree, then why don't we take +1 and -1, i.e 2-4> > degrees.> > Note the following points -> > * When we say the child is 1 years of age we don't have any doubt that> > it indicate time span from Zero age to 1 years.> > * When we say that time is going to be 3, we don't have any confusion and> > understand that the range is from 2.00 to 3.00> > Note that this is the age old system of counting present in India, none> > had any confusion, when they said 3 degree they always meant from 2.00 to> > 3.00 ONLY. This is supported by texts, unbroken tradition (e.g. that of> > Prasnamarga) and is clearly logical. Doubt arises only when the continuity> > breaks and there is none to advice you the correct path. Hope this helps.> >> > > Does the exaltation level build up and drop suddenly after 3 degree.> > As per the sages, there is nothing called 'exaltation level'; 1 degree> > is considered as maximum exaltation degree that is all to it. Later some> > started considering a gradual decrease in strength from maximum exaltation> > point to maximum debilitation point and gradual increase from maximum> > debilitation point to maximum exaltation point. But this system has its own> > inherent problem as you can clearly see from the presence of own houses in> > between exaltation and debilitation degrees.> >> > > I was quoting from BPHS, chapter 3, shloks 51-54.> > I need to check that sloka; anyway BPHS is a stitched-up text; and for> > sure much trash along with some valuable ancient material is present in it.> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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