Jupiter in Lagna + Music

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Gurujan,Namaskar. Pl discuss jupiter in virgo. regards Mnaoj Kar durga050 <durga050 wrote: Neelamji, Namastae, Aquarius is a sign in which Jupiter enjoys Bala or strength .Exaltation sign of any planet means the planet enjoy maximum strength in that sign. Jupiter at aquarius is at par with Jupiter in cancer doesn't mean , Jupiter will give identical result in both the signs .It imply Jupiter gets strengthened in aquarius and is comparable to its Bala or stength in cancer. Durga , "neelam gupta" <neelamgupta07 wrote:>> Dear Renu ji and Sreenadh ji,> > Although Brihat jatak has said that Jupiter in Kumbh is as strong as Jup in> cancer.> > many other texts do not have good things to say about Jupiter's position in> Aquarius.> > e.g saravali says:> If Jupiter falls in Aquarius at the time of birth, one will be a> tale-bearer, be ill disposed,

interested in evil jobs, be chief among his> racemen, be always attached to base men, be malicious, miserly, will suffer> from diseases, will lose wealth on account his own utterances, be devoid of> intelligence and virtues.> > Similarly, Jatak Bharnam says:> Such a native is patient of a disease, foolish, devoid of wealth,> excessively miserly, engaged in doing sins, troubled by diseases of teeth> and stomach.> > According to Yavanjataka:> Jupiter in Aquarius produces a cruel and wicked liar of odious character;> one who is clever in bad crafts and in things pertaining to water; a leader> of tribes who performs very vile acts; a greedy man, intent on faults in his> own speech, who accomplishes his aim; one whose body is afflicted by> pestilences having the nature of diseases; an unrighteous man> (viyuktadharma), suffering from diseases of the genitals; one

who lacks> good qualities of the soul such as intelligence.> > However, Jatak Parijata in Ch. II says:> Guru is exceedingly strong in Dhanu, Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the> time preceding mid day, in his northerly course, in his own Dreshkan, in his> own Amsh and, when he succeeds in battle between Grahas. He has medium> strength in the initial part of a Rasi, is quite strong in the middle and> weak at the end. He is considered to be strong in retrograde motion in all> Rasis except in the Rasi Makar, where he is in fall.> He gives plenty of money, if in Lagn, or in Karm Bhava. (Jatak Parijata, Ch.> II).> > Where does the truth lie???> > Regards> Neelam> > > > > > On 24/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog wrote:> >> > Dear Renu ji,> > ==>> > > "Kumbhe Karkatavat" (if in Aquarius

Jupiter gives results similar to> > > in cancer; i.e. Jupiter in Aquarius is as strong as in Cancer) of> > > Brihat Jataka of Mihira. "> > *> Can you please explain the reason for this?*> > <==> > Danger!!! Bhas gaya!! [image: ] The easy way out is - I don't know [image:> > :">] [image: ] [image: ;]> >> > Ok - May be -> > * because Aquarius is 11th in NH and 11th is good for all planets?> > * because 9th lord in 11th as per NH is good? Also is it because 11th is> > 3rd (Upachaya house) from 9th?> > * Is it because Jupiter owns 2nd and 11th houses from Aquarius, and> > because of that will produce beneficial results?> > * Is it because Jupiter's and Saturn's exaltation houses are in 4-10> > axis and when connected they can become Paraspara karaka (mutual> > significator) and thus Jupiter in

Aquarius is similar to Jupiter in Cancer?> > Then why not the same told for Jupiter in Libra (the exaltation house of> > Saturn)?> > * Or is it because, for Jupiter in Cancer - 9th lord from Cancer (Ju) is> > exalted in Cancer; and on the contrary for Jupiter in Aquarius (but giving> > similar results) - the lagna lord (Sa) is exalted in 9th from Aquarius (in> > Libra)?> > * For Jupiter in cancer, the lagna lord is exalted in 11th and Jupiter> > owns 9th; Similarly for Jupiter in Aquarius, Jupiter owns 11th and the> > lagna lord is exalted in 9th.> > There could be a variety of reasons or logics behind - but to be brief -> > your question, baffled me to no end, and threw me in no man's (no, not even> > women's) land!! [image: ] But that was a wonderful question!! [image:> > =D>] Now let other logicians find there wits end.. [image: ] and

I too> > will stand-watch and enjoy! [image: ]> > Love and regards,> > Sreenadh> >> >> > , "renunw" renunw@> > wrote:> > >> > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > >> > > "Kumbhe Karkatavat" (if in Aquarius Jupiter gives results similar to> > > in cancer; i.e. Jupiter in Aquarius is as strong as in Cancer) of> > > Brihat Jataka of Mihira. "> > >> > > Can you please explain the reason for this?> > >> > > Jupiter gets debilitated in one sign owned by Saturn but in the> > > other sign owned by Sa it is as strong as if its exalted. There> > > should be a good and interesting logic behind this.... of which I am> > > ignorant. I tried to analyze...nakshastra, Kalapurusha etc.etc. but>

> > failed.> > >> > > Hence awaiting your response....thanks.> > >> > > blessings> > >> > > Renu> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > >> > > >> > > > Dear Neelam ji,> > > >> > > > Yes - the reference provided by Durga ji is "Kumbhe Karkatavat"> > > (if in> > > > Aquarius Jupiter gives results similar to in cancer; i.e. Jupiter> > > in> > > > Aquarius is as strong as in Cancer) of Brihat Jataka of Mihira.> > > >> > > > It is a very joyous experience to have a scholar well versed in> > > > scriptures like Durga ji to be in the group.>

> > >> > > > Love and regards,> > > > Sreenadh> > > >> > > > , "durga050"> > > > <durga050@> wrote:> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > Neelamji,> > > > >> > > > > Namastae,> > > > >> > > > > Though vakra , Jupiter is in vargottama and is in aquarius (when> > > it> > > > > comes to Bala or strength , aquarius jupiter is at par with> > > jupiter in> > > > > cancer , its exaltation sign )> > > > >> > > > > Durga> > > > >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > > , "neelam

gupta"> > > > > neelamgupta07@ wrote:> > > > > >> > > > > > Dear Members,> > > > > > This is another case of a retrograde jupiter in lagna:> > > > > > Female: 17.8.1962/19.00/Delhi> > > > > > In this case Jup retrogrades in aquarius lagna with moon in> > > lagna,> > > > 7H> > > > > has> > > > > > sun and mer, 5 with mars, 6H rahu, 8H ven, and 12H ketu & sat> > > ®> > > > > > Here in contrast to Vijay's case, the lady is traditional, very> > > > > religious,> > > > > > shiv bhakt, does regular paths at home, of helping nature. She> > > is> > > > > goodness> > > > > > personified,> > > > > > Regarding looks, she is good

looking, light eyes (honey> > > coloured),> > > > > broad> > > > > > shoulders, tall and stout> > > > > > Good education, works, but priority is family and children (not> > > > > overtly> > > > > > ambitious regarding work)> > > > > > The difference here appears to be the placement of moon with> > > > Jupiter.> > > > > > Jupiter-moon conjunction makes a person highly religious. They> > > are> > > > the> > > > > ones> > > > > > who bend their heads when passing by a temple. They cannot say> > > no to> > > > > anyone> > > > > > seeking their help.> > > > > > However, not forgetting the lordships, a retro jupiter> > > (2L/11L),> > >

> with> > > > > 6L in> > > > > > lagna has surely given her constant health problems.> > > > > > Regards> > > > > > Neelam> > > > > >> > > > > > On 24/01/2008, Sreenadh sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Dear Sheevani ji,> > > > > > > Nice description.. [image: ] Well said. [image: ]> > > > > > > Yes, if the Jupiter Centrics are going to the details they> > > should> > > > > > > consider all the signs with Jupiter in lagna and assess how> > > the> > > > > effect> > > > > > > varies - just a suggestion. [image: ]> > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > Sreenadh> > >

> > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > --- In> > > , "sheevani147"> > > > > > > sheevani147@ wrote:> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > re.. Jupiter in lagna..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > I know 2 persons (both females) with Jupiter in lagna..> > > both> > > > seem> > > > > to> > > > > > > > be slim, have small chests and wide hips but other physical> > > > > features> > > > > > > > differ..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 1st.. short, darker skintone, thick hair(coarse),, very> > > > determined> > > > >

> > > obsessive nature, secretive,, not too concern with morals> > > in> > > > > private> > > > > > > > life,( unmarrried mother of 2 kids), yet puts up a front> > > of of> > > > > 'goody> > > > > > > > two shoes' Lagna is scopio, with jupiter and mercury..> > > Mars and> > > > > sun> > > > > > > > in 12H and shani in 2H.. therefore lagna hemmed between> > > > malefics..> > > > > > > > Moon/ketu in 5H.> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > 2nd.. is tall, light skinned, broad shouldered, has air of> > > > > arrogance.> > > > > > > > very atheletic, keen on sports, plays sports too.. varied> > > > > interests,> > > >

> > > > likes and dislikes very obvious.. very intelligent,> > > dresses for> > > > > > > > comfort rather than dress to impress.. Lagna is Aquarius,> > > with> > > > > only> > > > > > > > jupiter,, Jupiter aspects venus in gemini in 5H.. and ketu> > > in> > > > 9H..> > > > > > > > Shani aspects jupiter from 10H> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > And yes yes Jupiter aspecting venus in Gemini==. she is> > > very> > > > > musical,> > > > > > > > plays several instuments and has a good voice, good at> > > mimicry> > > > too> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Amother point of interest,, both these person studied

LAW> > > at> > > > > > > > university..> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > Regards> > > > > > > > Sheevani> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > > Well said! :=)> > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > , "renunw"> > > > > <renunw@>> > > > >

> > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > Re: Jupiter in Lagna + Music> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Dear Sreenadh ji,> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Jupiter in lagna in the Nakshastra of VENUS.> > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > > I object!! Nakshatra we are not considering currently!> > > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > > In Navamsa Jupiter is aspected by VENUS. So the> > > connection> > > > > > > > expressed> > > > > > > > > by Sreeram ji is> > > > > > > > > > valid to this horoscope.> > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > >

> > > I object!! In Navamsa aspect is NOT considered, and so> > > the> > > > > > > > argument> > > > > > > > > stands cancelled. ;)"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > I thought it is usually the duty of the lawyer/lawyers> > > [Arjun> > > > ji> > > > > & > > > > > > > > > Sreenivas ji] to object to any argument brought out by> > > the> > > > other> > > > > > > > party.> > > > > > > > > I consider you as the judge in all these cases...and you> > > could> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > overruled or sustained the objection, if and when brought> > > > about> > > > >

by> > > > > > > > the> > > > > > > > > learned members in this case [thread].> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Anyway the statement by Sreenivas ji was:> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > "Jupiter in Lagna has NO relation to music, unless it is> > > > > conected to> > > > > > > > > Venus in some respect. Kindly provide the birth data {> > > Lagna,> > > > > > > > Planets> > > > > > > > > in Lagna, planets aspecting the Lagna, Jupiter placement> > > in a> > > > > > > > house, its> > > > > > > > > amsa position}"> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >

> Hon. Sir, it was the learned counsel who has invited to> > > > provide> > > > > > > > birth> > > > > > > > > data where Jupiter has some connection to Venus even in> > > its> > > > Amsa> > > > > > > > > Position.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > So I appeal to consider your objection once again.> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Thank you sir > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In

@> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > , "Sreenadh"> > > > > > > > > > sreesog@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > Dear Renu ji,> > > > > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in lagna in the Nakshastra of VENUS.> > > > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > > > > I object!! Nakshatra we are not considering> > > currently!> > > > > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > >

> > In Navamsa Jupiter is aspected by VENUS. So the> > > > connection> > > > > > > > > expressed> > > > > > > > > > > by Sreeram ji is> > > > > > > > > > > > valid to this horoscope.> > > > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > > > > I object!! In Navamsa aspect is NOT considered, and> > > so the> > > > > > > > argument> > > > > > > > > > > stands cancelled. > > > > > > > > > > > ==>> > > > > > > > > > > > He is a good singer and plays musical instruments,> > > > > especially> > > > > > > > > piano> > > > > > > > > > > > and

organ well. Possesses a very good voice. A good> > > > orator> > > > > > > > too.> > > > > > > > > > > <==> > > > > > > > > > > And I wonder, does it goes in favor of Sorabh ji? > > > > > > > > > > > Love and regards,> > > > > > > > > > > Sreenadh> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > --- In> > > , "renunw"> > > > > > > > renunw@> > > > > > > > > > > wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sorabh ji and Sreeram ji> > > > > > > > > > >

>> > > > > > > > > > > > I quote the following lines by Sreeram ji and> > > would give> > > > > an> > > > > > > > > example> > > > > > > > > > > > horoscope.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > "Jupiter in Lagna has NO relation to music, unless> > > it is> > > > > > > > connected> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > Venus in some respect.'> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > 14th Dec, 1984 at 8.26 AM in Colombo, Sri Lanka.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >

> > > Jupiter in lagna in the Nakshastra of VENUS. In> > > Navamsa> > > > > > > > Jupiter is> > > > > > > > > > > > aspected by VENUS. So the connection expressed by> > > > Sreeram> > > > > ji> > > > > > > > is> > > > > > > > > > > > valid to this horoscope.> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > He is a good singer and plays musical instruments,> > > > > especially> > > > > > > > > piano> > > > > > > > > > > > and organ well. Possesses a very good voice. A good> > > > orator> > > > > > > > too.> > > > > > > > > > > >>

> > > > > > > > > > > blessings> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > Renu> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > "sreeram> > > > > > > > > srinivas"> > > > > > > > > > > > sreeram64@ wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Mr - Mr Sorabh Sharma

ji,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Jupiter in Lagna has NO relation to music,> > > unless it> > > > is> > > > > > > > conected> > > > > > > > > > to> > > > > > > > > > > > > Venus in some respect. Kindly provide the birth> > > data {> > > > > > > > Lagna,> > > > > > > > > > > > Planets> > > > > > > > > > > > > in Lagna, planets aspecting the Lagna, Jupiter> > > > placement> > > > > in> > > > > > > > a> > > > > > > > > > > > house, its> > > > > > > > > > > > > amsa

position}> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > With regards,> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sreeram_Srinivas> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > ,> > > > > > > > > "mrsorabhsharma"> > > > > > > > > > > > > <mrsorabhsharma@> wrote:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Shreenadh> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > If i may make a

contribution regarding this> > > matter - I> > > > > have> > > > > > > > > found> > > > > > > > > > > > > that jupiter in the lagna and strong mercury> > > placement> > > > -> > > > > or> > > > > > > > > > jupiter> > > > > > > > > > > > > aspecting lagna lord or lagna gives strong> > > musical> > > > > > > > interests.> > > > > > > > > This> > > > > > > > > > > > > can be found in many musician charts also -> > > including> > > > > lata> > > > > > > > > > > > > mangeshkar and micheal jackson.But what is the> > > > > signficance> >

> > > > > > of a> > > > > > > > > > > > > planet like jupiter with music? I would love your> > > > > thoughts> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > Many thanks Kind regards> > > > > > > > > > > > > Sorabh SHarma> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> >

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Dear Chanu 2 Chill ji,

Can you share from Upanishad or Purana is that story ??? Hope is a humor created story ??

With regards,

Sreeram_Srinivas

, "Chandu2chill" <nanna_id2006 wrote:>> > Dear Sheevani Ji,> > If i may add my 2 cents..> > //shani is exalted in vishakha nakshatra( owned by jupiter)??? some > sort of parivartana???//> > What i learned is Shani is exalted in Swati Nakshatra...> > Here goes the story...>

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Dear Sri Srinivas Ji,

 

Honestly, i do not know the root of this story mentioned in any

Upanishad or Purana. However i shall try and find out.

 

In between, i mentioned the author's name (Source) from where i

learnt..

 

Thank you for asking..

 

With regards

 

Chann

 

 

, " sreeram srinivas "

<sreeram64 wrote:

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> Dear Chanu 2 Chill ji,

>

> Can you share from Upanishad or Purana is that story ??? Hope is a

> humor created story ??

>

> With regards,

>

> Sreeram_Srinivas

>

> , " Chandu2chill "

> <nanna_id2006@> wrote:

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> > Dear Sheevani Ji,

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> > If i may add my 2 cents..

> >

> > //shani is exalted in vishakha nakshatra( owned by jupiter)???

some

> > sort of parivartana???//

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> > What i learned is Shani is exalted in Swati Nakshatra...

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> > Here goes the story...

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